Post your family coat of arms!

[Savant]

Everyone who's family has a coat of arms or family crest, post it here. Preferably one which you can verify is associated with your family somehow, as opposed to one that some random salesman or website said was associated with your family :D



One variant

http://heraldry.celticradio.net/coa_image.php?id=72

[Beorn]

Aren't these mostly online company's using any old arms to placate stupid customers?

I know the coat of arms of my own surname is not the one actually in existence.

[Savant]

Yeah, that often happens, which is why specified for people to post one which they know is associated with their family. For example, there are 3-4 different ones for my surname floating around on the internet. However, this is the one which had been hanging in our family house for at least 100 years that we know of. So, in my case, I can be pretty sure it's the right one...


Aren't these mostly online company's using any old arms to placate stupid customers?

I know the coat of arms of my own surname is not the one actually in existence.

[Groenewolf]

According to the Central Bureau for Genealogy (www.cbg.nl) there is one associated with my surname. However have not done the proper research yet to find out if I am entitled to use it. If so, then I have rediscovered a lost piece of family history.

[lei.talk]

what is the import
of the many crossletted crosses (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross#In_heraldry) à la mode de beauchamp (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_de_Beauchamp,_11th_Earl_of_Warwick)?


Percussa Resurgo

[Fortis in Arduis]

Do not have one, but my maternal granny's crest was a wheatsheaf like the Grosvenor crest, but with two wings (sorry don't know proper term) either side and the motto is Fortis in Arduis.

She was the last of her branch of the Yorkshire Middletons and I am not supposed to use the crest, but I love the motto just for what it is and I loved her so much too.

She really was fab and the crest is all over the last bits of silver we have. Granny, I still love you. X

I was adopted anyway... That's the only armorial type thingy I am aware of.

[lei.talk]

I loved her so much...She really was fab...Granny, I still love you. X

In Blau eine goldene Weizengarbe
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0c/Azure%2C_a_garb_Or.svg/180px-Azure%2C_a_garb_Or.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrope_v._Grosvenor#Another_claimant)

http://myfamilysilver.com//img/crests/large/fairbairns-153-14.jpg (http://www.myfamilysilver.com/crestFinder/?name=Middleton)
Between Two Wings Argent, A Garb Or.

[Blossom]

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~celticlady/images/Schluter_Crest2.jpg

Oh well..

[lei.talk]

...this is the one which had been hanging in our family house for at least 100 years that we know of.


http://heraldry.celticradio.net/coa_image.php?id=72 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms)

what is the import
of the many crossletted crosses (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross#In_heraldry) à la mode de beauchamp (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_de_Beauchamp,_11th_Earl_of_Warwick)?


Percussa Resurgo
the proud descendants of "Norman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normans#In_England) Overlords"
must have frequently discussed the eight battles
symbolised on their shield - please, share the tales.

[Savant]

Haha. There's only one tale that I know of which circulates in our family. However, to it's credit, it circulates on at least 3 continents. So, if it is a myth, it's a pervasive one... Anyhow, since you asked...

I just wanted to explain the Percussa Resurgo thing. It is the family motto for the X Family that dates back to the late 10th century.

The origin of the surname is from X, a Norman Knight. Oddly enough, X was not his birth name (that is lost in time somewhere) and the term 'de Courcy' was not a surname. The term 'de Courcy' indicated that he was from the area of Courcy, Normandy in France (although that was actually his forebears place of origin, it followed for a few generations after the Norman Invasion in 1066). X de Courcy was the 2nd son of William de Courcy Lord of Islip (England).

On the death of King Henry II, the eldest son Richard was crowned in 1189. King Richard 1st (also known as The Lionheart) was to spend most of his kingship fighting the Saracens in the Holy Lands during his Crusade. It was during this Crusade that X De Courcy went as standard-bearer with the English Crusaders to the Holy Land. The position of the Standard Bearer in a battle was, in those days, crucial to the positioning of the troops, and in the calamity of battle provided a rallying point for those who would become geographically confused in the melee. The position of the Standard, also provided to the commander, the position of his troops and indicated whether or not they had advanced, been pushed back, or were simply standing their ground, which in turn determined future battle tactics. Therefore, in battles such as the Crusades were, the Standard Bearer was a definite target of the enemy! If the Standard Bearer was killed and the Standard captured, or removed from view, it would create confusion in the ranks of an army, much to the advantage of the enemy.

In a great battle which took place between the Christians and the Saracens on the banks of the River Jordan, X de Courcy was so vigorously attacked by the Saracen host, that on three or four occasions his standard, which was the Banner of the Cross, almost disappeared from the view of the Christians, who, therefore, greatly feared for his safety; but, from his extraordinary strength, and the help he received from his followers, De Courcy re-appeared with his standard, as if miraculously, and on each occasion dealt destruction to the enemy. Hence his adoption of the personal name X in memory of his remarkable prowess on that occasion, and the family motto - Percussa Resurgo - Struck down I rise again.


the proud descendants of "Norman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normans#In_England) Overlords"
must have frequently discussed the eight battles
symbolised on their shield - please, share the tales.

[Graham]

Little - Borders clan from Meikledale
The Clan Crest badge is made up of the last chief, The Little of Meikledale's heraldic crest and motto
Arms of the Lairds of Meikledale were: sable a saltire argent
Meikledale's motto: 'Concedo nulli' or 'Fidei Coticula Crux'
Meikledale's crest: A demi lion Sable powdered with saltires Argent, armed Gules, in dexter paw a cutlass Proper and in sinister a saltire Argent.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/Clan_member_crest_badge_-_Clan_Little.svg/190px-Clan_member_crest_badge_-_Clan_Little.svg.png
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ae/Little_of_Meikledale_arms.svg/170px-Little_of_Meikledale_arms.svg.png

[aefavant]

interesting, i love coats of arms. Actually I could add here quite a few crests but since only the head of the clan is allowed to "wear" the family arms, if I had to place here only one I'd go for a well known "sul cognome" crest - since it means the King presented the coat of arms not only to the noble but also to his family as a whole, as a token of admiration. Therefore, sul sognome my family it is

[Barreldriver]

My family has no authentic coat of arms, some folks advertise arms but I'm near certain that it's either a business scheme to lure in newbie genealogists or that if it is legit that it doesn't apply to my specific Reeder/Reader family from Yorkshire, we were after all just common folks.

[MachineHead]

http://www.plusesmas.com/escudos_postales/escudos/1/E1/echandi.gif

[Fortis in Arduis]

http://myfamilysilver.com//img/crests/large/fairbairns-153-14.jpg

Thank you, lei.talk, this is indeed the crest that my granny used. :)

We never had a coat of arms.

[Albion]

I believe in England coats of arms can only be granted to a person or maybe a family but I think they're to a person and not hereditary.

Personally I'd have the horse of Kent, bales of Cheshire and three lions of England - one each side and one above.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/58/Cheshire_badge.png

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Coat_of_arms_of_Kent.svg/545px-Coat_of_arms_of_Kent.svg.png

The shield of Kent may as well be my coat of arms, I have something in common with it.

[Arrow Cross]

Ironic dove is ironic, I know.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x112/Sinnadrin/Csaldicmer.jpg

[Contra Mundum]

http://www.tradebit.com/usr/heraldics/pub/9002/saxon-coat-of-arms.jpg

[Vasconcelos]

http://familiavasconcelostarabai.zip.net/images/Vasconcelos.jpg.JPG
http://pnsintra.imc-ip.pt/Data/ContentImages/vasconsellos.jpg

[Riki]

http://pnsintra.imc-ip.pt/Data/ContentImages/costas.jpg

Its on one of the walls of the House where my Great-Great Grandfather use to live.
And its actually the oldest branch(As far as we know)of my family.

Some authors tell us that the nickname identified a family of Portuguese medieval nobility that may derive from a protonotary apostolic who lived in Portugal at the beginning of the thirteenth century, a Greek named Nicholas and Kosta. Other authors say so in the most remote origins and give it the time used by D. Afonso Henriques, some claiming that the name derives from the Quinta da Costa, in the district of Guimarães. Anyway, the first character that appears in Portugal is a well-documented Gonçalo da Costa, who in 1154 confirmed in writing of the Monastery of Semide Couto. To these belong the back of Soure earls and barons of the Big Island of Joanes. Therefore, the leadership of Costas, if not all of them, came to fall in the House of Silveiras, counts of Sortelha. The arms of the Costas are red, with six silver put back on three tracks and arranged in two peaks, wedged into the flanks of the shield. Timbre: two strands of silver passed in quotation marks and tied with red. The branch of Costas said lords strike, collaterally derived from the famous Cardinal D. Jorge da Costa, of the Coasts of Alpedrinha, broke those weapons with the "body" of the company that cardinal, who was ordered as follows: blue, with a wheel of Santa Catarina, armed with silver. Timbre: that of the Costas. Note that in the reasonable opinion of some of heraldry, the back of these weapons are not a representation of bone but of a type of cobbler knives and blunt curved blade, precisely called the "back".

[Riki]

http://familiavasconcelostarabai.zip.net/images/Vasconcelos.jpg.JPG
http://pnsintra.imc-ip.pt/Data/ContentImages/vasconsellos.jpg

What with us and the Deer?

[rhiannon]

http://cresseys.co.uk/Images/coatofarmstruebigclrsml.jpg
Coat of Arms for my maiden name. My married name does not have one.

[exceeder]

Coat of arms in my dp. Its my mothers, so its from my polish side.
It is called Sas. Apparently its origins are from Moldavia where the prince there (prince sas) and a retinue of his knights were invited into Galicia-Volhynia (modern day western ukraine) to fight for the Polish King at the time. The coat of arms belongs to him and a number of his knights.
My moms family is from modern day western ukraine (but are poles).

[Absinthe]

Authentic ;)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2a/Caradja_Coat_of_arms.gif

[Óttar]

I have an authentic one... It has ravens in it. It is in Florida in a glass case. I cannot post it now.

[Kazimiera]

http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q526/katzentatzen79/Korczak__zps0mmdwlja.jpg (http://s1162.photobucket.com/user/katzentatzen79/media/Korczak__zps0mmdwlja.jpg.html)

My family belongs to the Korczak coat of arms.


It was used by several noble families of Clan Korczak in the times of the Kingdom of Poland and the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.

The coat of arms has Hungarian origins; the three bars represent the Danube, Tisza (or Drava), and Sava rivers.

Earliest mention - 1142 annum (Ogród królewski, Paprocki Bartłomiej, D. Siedlczański, Praga, 1599). The first mention of the coat of arms was 1368, while the oldest known seal bearing the coat dates to 1432. The Gorajscy family was the first to use the seal.
Bearers are largely made up of noble families from Red Ruthenia and Lesser Poland. The arms were confirmed in Lithuania at Union of Horodło.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5f/Europe_location_BLR_UKR.png/800px-Europe_location_BLR_UKR.png

[The Lawspeaker]

I should ask my family about our family crest because I remember we had one.

[Vasconcelos]

http://familiavasconcelostarabai.zip.net/images/Vasconcelos.jpg.JPG

[Leadchucker]

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/405257_2961768817893_1671751199_1733085_279723306_ n.jpg

[SilverKnight]

http://s19.postimage.org/8nel6hpj7/de_Santiago_Spain.jpg (http://postimage.org/)
Santiago Name Meaning
Galician, Portuguese, and Spanish: habitational name from any of the numerous places named for the dedication of their churches to St. James (Sant Iago). The apostle St. James the Greater is the patron saint of Spain; there is a medieval legend that, after the death of Christ, he did not meet a speedy end under Herod Agrippa, but visited and evangelized the Iberian peninsula. His alleged burial site at Compostela has been a place of pilgrimage from all over Europe for over a thousand years.

http://s19.postimage.org/52ipn9kzn/galicia.gif (http://postimage.org/)

[Vixen]

This coat of arms belongs to my fiance´s Family, Menna Barreto. They are an important family of Portuguese origin in Brazil.
http://i50.tinypic.com/14obzmf.jpg

From Wikipedia:


Menna Barreto is a traditional Brazilian family of Rio Grande do Sul, which has spread politically and militarily through Brazil since the end of Brazil as a colony of the Portuguese Empire (1530-1815), through the United Kingdom of Portugal, Brazil and Algarve (1815-1822), the Empire of Brazil (1822-1889), until the current Brazilian Republic (1889 -).
The family has no origins in the Portuguese nobility, or in other European countries, however, some Menna Barreto would receive titles of nobility of the newly formed nobility of the Empire of Brazil, after providing important services to the Empire as a nation, and, in time, Their Imperial Majesties the Emperors Pedro I and Dom Pedro II, and other members of the imperial family of Brazil.
Several Menna Barreto followed a military career, having a great tradition in the Brazilian army. Historically, the family held several offices in Rio Grande do Sul, some of which still belong to family members.
Some Menna Barreto:
Antonio Adolfo Menna Barreto da Fontoura (1846-1923) - Minister of War under President Hermes da Fonseca
Vitor Barreto Menna Antonio Sampaio (1825-1891) - military and political responsibility for the emancipation of Estrela
João de Deus Menna Barreto (I) (1769 to 1849 - Viscount of St. Gabriel, military and president of the province of Rio Grande do Sul
João de Deus Menna Barreto (II) (1874-1933) - military interventor in Rio de Janeiro and a member of the junta that ruled Brazil in 1930
João Manuel Menna Barreto (? -1869) - Army brigadier, who died in the war with Paraguay in the attack on the fortifications of Peribebuí
Suitable João Menna Barreto - 2. ° Baron of St. Gabriel, military commander of the Army when it occupied southern Uruguay
Jose Menna Barreto de Abreu (1771-1827) - Baron Cerro Largo, military, president of the province of Rio Grande do Sul
Jose Luis Menna Barreto (I) (1796-1825) - Colonel, who died in the war Cisplatin
Jose Luis Menna Barreto (II) (1817-1879) - Marshal of the army, hero of the war with Paraguay, the son of the former

[Patches]

https://my.qoop.com/store/Family-Crests---Coat-of-Arms-Gift-Store-bdd906d9a3787bcb720c844712e22768817415df/YORK-FAMILY-CREST----YORK-COAT-OF-ARMS-jpg-qpps_196192156048933.LG.jpg

[kwp_wp]

My family belongs to Kościesza coat of arms.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/41/Herb_Kosciesza.jpg
Kościesza - is a Polish Coat of Arms used by szlachta families mostly in the times of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.
Earliest mention: 14th century
Józef Piłsudski is among notable bearers of this Coat of Arms.

[Vixen]

This coat of arms belongs to my fiance´s Family, Menna Barreto. They are an important family of Portuguese origin in Brazil.
http://i50.tinypic.com/14obzmf.jpg

From Wikipedia:


Menna Barreto is a traditional Brazilian family of Rio Grande do Sul, which has spread politically and militarily through Brazil since the end of Brazil as a colony of the Portuguese Empire (1530-1815), through the United Kingdom of Portugal, Brazil and Algarve (1815-1822), the Empire of Brazil (1822-1889), until the current Brazilian Republic (1889 -).
The family has no origins in the Portuguese nobility, or in other European countries, however, some Menna Barreto would receive titles of nobility of the newly formed nobility of the Empire of Brazil, after providing important services to the Empire as a nation, and, in time, Their Imperial Majesties the Emperors Pedro I and Dom Pedro II, and other members of the imperial family of Brazil.
Several Menna Barreto followed a military career, having a great tradition in the Brazilian army. Historically, the family held several offices in Rio Grande do Sul, some of which still belong to family members.
Some Menna Barreto:
Antonio Adolfo Menna Barreto da Fontoura (1846-1923) - Minister of War under President Hermes da Fonseca
Vitor Barreto Menna Antonio Sampaio (1825-1891) - military and political responsibility for the emancipation of Estrela
João de Deus Menna Barreto (I) (1769 to 1849 - Viscount of St. Gabriel, military and president of the province of Rio Grande do Sul
João de Deus Menna Barreto (II) (1874-1933) - military interventor in Rio de Janeiro and a member of the junta that ruled Brazil in 1930
João Manuel Menna Barreto (? -1869) - Army brigadier, who died in the war with Paraguay in the attack on the fortifications of Peribebuí
Suitable João Menna Barreto - 2. ° Baron of St. Gabriel, military commander of the Army when it occupied southern Uruguay
Jose Menna Barreto de Abreu (1771-1827) - Baron Cerro Largo, military, president of the province of Rio Grande do Sul
Jose Luis Menna Barreto (I) (1796-1825) - Colonel, who died in the war Cisplatin
Jose Luis Menna Barreto (II) (1817-1879) - Marshal of the army, hero of the war with Paraguay, the son of the former

[Vasconcelos]

Santiago - Galician origins. It also has branches in Aragon as well.

You might want to be careful with that association, having that name doesn't necessarily mean it's from THAT noble family. You can imagine how many people named Santiago in the Middle Ages..

Also, most (if not all) noble families from Iberia have a "de " before the name (or part of it), much like Germans have "von" and Dutch "van".

[SilverKnight]

You might want to be careful with that association, having that name doesn't necessarily mean it's from THAT noble family. You can imagine how many people named Santiago in the Middle Ages..

Also, most (if not all) noble families from Iberia have a "de " before the name (or part of it), much like Germans have "von" and Dutch "van".

Well yeah true, but I was just posting a representation of my last name's shield and where it originated from basically. Maybe I don't have direct ancestry with this family but rather indirect or close.

[Vasconcelos]

Maybe, or the descendents from someone who was from Compostela and moved away from his land, this is common to happen all over Europe. It could also be someone religious who adpoted Santiago as a family name.

[Sol Invictus]

How many of the posts here are actually of authenticity and not merely something lifted off of House of Names and other internet businesses, I wonder? Especially any one claiming noble birth. You really should substantiate your claims with records, as I am myself about to do:

Here is my mother's armourial bearings:


http://i45.tinypic.com/20kd2mq.jpg

du Laux

"Valour leads to Glory"

And some history behind its origins and symbolism according her records which are made available on-line, and I have attached at the bottom of this post:


"This Amagneux du Laux accompanied Louis IX, or Saint Louis, as he is popularly called in France, in the Seventh Crusade against the Saracens, and in the disastrous battle of Mansoura in Egypt (1250) in which 30,000 Christian soldiers were slain, was taken prisoner with King Louis. After paying a heavy ransom he returned with the King to France, and died at the Chateau du Laux in Armagnac and is buried in the church at that place, where his tomb and effigy can be seen to this day. He won great distinction in this crusade, and in commemoration of his services his armorial bearings were augmented with a bordure bearing bezants, a coin of the Byzantine Empire, indicating that the bearer had distinguished himself as a crusader. That heraldic insignia has been borne ever since on the arms of the famille du Laux."

---

The tree is that of a Laurel, a well-known symbol of victory, and in front of it A "Lion of England" denoting a lion passant guardant. Although she is descended from French nobility, her family records explain why this is the case:


"For many succeeding generations the Seigneurs du Laux played an active and important part in the history of Bearn and Navarre, which were a part of ancient Gascony, all belonging to the Duchy of Aquitaine, and all of which was a possession of the Crown of England for over three hundred years (1152-1453). These lands were territory as foreign to the French Kingdom as the territory of their German and Spanish neighbors.

The French conquest of Aquitaine (1451-1453), the result of the Hundred Years' War, was in reality the conquest of a land which had ceased to stand in any relation to the French Crown, and it was therefore to England that the seigneurs and rulers of these lands looked as the source of preferment, and to whom allegiance was due.

This is why we now begin to find frequent mention of the Seigneurs du Laux in the service of the Kings of England. About the year 1235 we meet with an Arnauld Guillaume du Laux, Chevalier, and Amagneux du Laux, also a chevalier, who rendered signal service to King Henry III in Aquitaine."

Inscribed on the wall of the Château de Montardy, still in possession of the heads of the family in France:


http://i45.tinypic.com/35ldojo.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/2z9lcp4.jpg

Her full genealogical records

*French only:
http://jm.ouvrard.pagesperso-orange.fr/armor/fami/l/lau.htm

Records of our 200th anniversary celebration:
http://genforum.genealogy.com/loucks/messages/899.html

[Shkembe Chorba]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/24/Coat_of_arms_of_Bulgaria.svg

Bulgaria.

The three lions are often associated with the three lands of the state - Moеsia, Thrace and Macedonia. Actually this isn't true, because according to the heraldic rules, the lions on the both sides, have secondary significance, and cannot be meanings of fact of such importance. The text written in the bottom is translated as "Unity makes strength" and was taken from Belgium after the Bulgarian unification that took place in 1885.

Now, its your turn.

[Aunt Hilda]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/c/cb/20101114084858%21Heyking_COA.JPG

[Tropico]

http://www.virtuousplanet.com/shops/userimages/00006/00000000074/section/00000000000000056569.png

[bocc]

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSL6u91tBxzb0dEDLhcWtbW9bPmz-Uc-zGXYID82PlqmPaKvMSPvA http://images.addoway.com.s3.amazonaws.com/items/13280/1456222/13280_1_5ba196.jpg

Pretty whack to be honest, are those monkey arms? i found a second one so the shield and colorway seems to be consistent at least.

[Vasconcelos]

Here's another old depiction. This is from 1515-1520, it's displayed on the National Palace of Sintra.

This was setup by king D. Manuel I, and along with the Vasconcelos (Vasconsellos in archaic spelling) are the coat of arms of another 71 families, who made up the most historically important of the high nobility of the Kingdom of Portugal up to the 1500s. It is placed in an honorable location, along with other 31 others, sorrounding the royal banners. The other 31 are on the second row.

"pois com esforços leais serviços foram ganhadas com estas e outras tais devem de ser conservadas"



http://pnsintra.imc-ip.pt/Data/ContentImages/vasconsellos.jpg




NOTE: The lion on top means the line has royal blood.

[Slycooper]

Here's another old depiction. This is from 1515-1520, it's displayed on the National Palace of Sintra.

This was setup by king D. Manuel I, and along with the Vasconcelos (Vasconsellos in archaic spelling) are the coat of arms of another 71 families, who made up the most historically important of the high nobility of the Kingdom of Portugal up to the 1500s.

"pois com esforços leais serviços foram ganhadas com estas e outras tais devem de ser conservadas"



http://pnsintra.imc-ip.pt/Data/ContentImages/vasconsellos.jpg

Thats pretty cool to have a surname of noble origin.:thumb001:

[Vasconcelos]

Thats pretty cool to have a surname of noble origin.:thumb001:

The Vasconcelos were very important throught history, but in the late centuries the various lineages weren't as relevant as they were during the Middle Ages. For example, Martim Moniz is the forefather of the family.

[LightHouse89]

coat of arms are only given to actual aristocracy so just because surname is Powers does not mean I am descended from the actual house of Normandy or Brittany. Real coat of arms are given to lad owning gentry or actual nobility.

[LightHouse89]

They are fake though. If its from 'House of Names.com' then its not realistic coat of arms. Are you descended from actual nobility? Clans or tribes have symbols but they are not a coat of arms. Coat of Arms are given to nobility only.

[Aunt Hilda]

They are fake though. If its from 'House of Names.com' then its not realistic coat of arms. Are you descended from actual nobility? Clans or tribes have symbols but they are not a coat of arms. Coat of Arms are given to nobility only.
my fathers side is Deutscher Adel from Niederrhein, actual nobility.

[Rudel]

Coat of Arms are given to nobility only.
Not really. While Coats of Arms are considered part of ones' legal identity, during the Gothic age and the Renaissance it was common for any one with enough money and influence to have a public identity to get Coats of Arms, at least in France.

As far as armorials could tell me, that's what I get for the Raulet or Raoullet d'Ambly, to which I'm collaterally linked where the beginning of the XVIth century is concerned :

http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/1849/h0ol.png

http://i.imgur.com/XdgWLZ3.png

Reconstructed on Inkscape :

http://i.imgur.com/egZ3JLs.jpg

Another reconstruction from an armorial without illustrations, for my direct lineage this time (couldn't find the armorial, I should be less messy). It should be from the XIVth or XVth century if I'm not mistaken :

http://i.imgur.com/8rQMMQj.jpg

I should make copies from the relevant parts of my maternal grand-mother's armorial when I have time. Lots of interesting stuff on her side too if I'm not mistaken.

[Albion]

They are fake though. If its from 'House of Names.com' then its not realistic coat of arms. Are you descended from actual nobility? Clans or tribes have symbols but they are not a coat of arms. Coat of Arms are given to nobility only.

This is often true, especially in the UK, I think coats of arms were only given to aristocracy here, not so many merchants or middle class people. Maybe we were more restrained here. Most people have a few aristocratic ancestors, but I'd say only about 1 in 8 are descended from a direct aristocratic ancestor on their paternal side.

It's a similar case with titles. There are companies in Scotland selling Lord / Laird titles because Scotland had weak regulations around it. In England it's only the monarch that can give them out, with these Scottish fake titles the theory is that if you own land you become a laird or something like that. They sell you 1 square foot of land and some shitty certificate pack for about 30 quid and then you're officially "Laird Derp of Loch Hurr Durr" or whatever. It's not recognized by actual authorities though and people will think you're a pillock if you use some fake title.
The one square foot of land - you don't get that either, you can schedule a visit to survey your highland estate :D (or stand in it) and make your way up to some muddy field in Scotland, but you can't so much as pitch a tent there and you're not allowed to sell it.

[Aunt Hilda]

but I'd say only about 1 in 8 are descended from a direct aristocratic ancestor on their paternal side.
that's a rather generous estimate.

[LightHouse89]

well then your all set. I am descended from peasantry so it does not apply to me LOL.

[LightHouse89]

Not really. While Coats of Arms are considered part of ones' legal identity, during the Gothic age and the Renaissance it was common for any one with enough money and influence to have a public identity to get Coats of Arms, at least in France.

As far as armorials could tell me, that's what I get for the Raulet or Raoullet d'Ambly, to which I'm collaterally linked where the beginning of the XVIth century is concerned :

http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/1849/h0ol.png

Interesting. I know in the UK its different. Seeing your a Frank do you know if DanDurand is a name of any significance?

http://i.imgur.com/XdgWLZ3.png

Reconstructed on Inkscape :

http://i.imgur.com/egZ3JLs.jpg

Another reconstruction from an armorial without illustrations, for my direct lineage this time (couldn't find the armorial, I should be less messy). It should be from the XIVth or XVth century if I'm not mistaken :

http://i.imgur.com/8rQMMQj.jpg

I should make copies from the relevant parts of my maternal grand-mother's armorial when I have time. Lots of interesting stuff on her side too if I'm not mistaken.

[LightHouse89]

This is often true, especially in the UK, I think coats of arms were only given to aristocracy here, not so many merchants or middle class people. Maybe we were more restrained here. Most people have a few aristocratic ancestors, but I'd say only about 1 in 8 are descended from a direct aristocratic ancestor on their paternal side.

It's a similar case with titles. There are companies in Scotland selling Lord / Laird titles because Scotland had weak regulations around it. In England it's only the monarch that can give them out, with these Scottish fake titles the theory is that if you own land you become a laird or something like that. They sell you 1 square foot of land and some shitty certificate pack for about 30 quid and then you're officially "Laird Derp of Loch Hurr Durr" or whatever. It's not recognized by actual authorities though and people will think you're a pillock if you use some fake title.
The one square foot of land - you don't get that either, you can schedule a visit to survey your highland estate :D (or stand in it) and make your way up to some muddy field in Scotland, but you can't so much as pitch a tent there and you're not allowed to sell it.

It similar like in Ireland. The clan system here is retarded but makes some sense. For example I am not a real O'Sullivan there because my ancestor married a women from somewhere else on the island and also my grandfather married a Polish-German girl so I cannot claim that I am a member o that can but I can say I am descended from a member of it. I did not realize that clan was a Jacobite supporters during the Union wars over there.

[Rudel]

Most people have a few aristocratic ancestors, but I'd say only about 1 in 8 are descended from a direct aristocratic ancestor on their paternal side.
Still pretty huge. But Britain wasn't much populated during the Middle Age (hence reducing the population to draw ancestors from), and it has very good archives we miss for various reasons (making it much easier to pinpoint medieval ancestry).


well then your all set. I am descended from peasantry so it does not apply to me LOL.
I'm too. My family's a peasant-ish branch from a bourgeois (urban middle-class) branch of a small house. For the last four centuries my ancestors have been as low-class as they come.


Interesting. I know in the UK its different. Seeing your a Frank do you know if DanDurand is a name of any significance?
Durand is pretty much our equivalent of Smith.


I did not realize that clan was a Jacobite supporters during the Union wars over there.
Long live the Stuarts !


http://youtu.be/XLcHjTfrruM

[Albion]

that's a rather generous estimate.

Maybe, but it's got to be somewhere between that and 1 in 20.


well then your all set. I am descended from peasantry so it does not apply to me LOL.

I'm descended from farmers mostly, I think they were mainly yeomen (farmers that owned some land), so one step up from commoners (peasants that were tenants of a lord). Victorian era ancestry is always interesting in this country - had some mill owners on my paternal side whilst my now snobby maternal side were water gypsies (not actual gypsies, just a name giving to people that lived on the canals and lived on their boats - hence travelers, gypsies).


It similar like in Ireland. The clan system here is retarded but makes some sense. For example I am not a real O'Sullivan there because my ancestor married a women from somewhere else on the island and also my grandfather married a Polish-German girl so I cannot claim that I am a member o that can but I can say I am descended from a member of it. I did not realize that clan was a Jacobite supporters during the Union wars over there.

Yeah, strange. Usually such things are traced paternally.

[Atlantic Islander]

http://imageshack.us/a/img208/6703/24na.jpg

[Albion]

Still pretty huge. But Britain wasn't much populated during the Middle Age (hence reducing the population to draw ancestors from), and it has very good archives we miss for various reasons (making it much easier to pinpoint medieval ancestry).

And there were various population bottlenecks after plagues, drawing the classes together.


For the last four centuries my ancestors have been as low-class as they come.

Last 100 years for mine. :(

[Aunt Hilda]

Maybe, but it's got to be somewhere between that and 1 in 20.

we're not Poland where 10% of the Population in the middle ages where Aristocrats, it's got to be something like 1 in 15-20.

[LightHouse89]

Damn I am a peasant times ten. Maybe Charles the great is a long ago ancestor of mine he procreated with women all over the place.

[LightHouse89]

Maybe, but it's got to be somewhere between that and 1 in 20.



I'm descended from farmers mostly, I think they were mainly yeomen (farmers that owned some land), so one step up from commoners (peasants that were tenants of a lord). Victorian era ancestry is always interesting in this country - had some mill owners on my paternal side whilst my now snobby maternal side were water gypsies (not actual gypsies, just a name giving to people that lived on the canals and lived on their boats - hence travelers, gypsies).



Yeah, strange. Usually such things are traced paternally.

My fathers ancestory isi nteresting in the 1700s I have some Hessen ancestry from a Captain of a German regiment. The surname is Eamer but in Germany was Ammerland or Ammer. Its a strange surname I am unfamiliar with.

[Empecinado]

This is the only one which I know for sure that belongs to one of my ancestors, a 15th century knight who owned a farmstead where the coat of arms was found.

http://www.novetle.es/sites/novetle.portalesmunicipales.es/files/images/pedraajunt.jpg

[LightHouse89]

This is the only one which I know for sure that belongs to one of my ancestors, a 15th century knight who owned a farmstead where the coat of arms was found.

http://www.novetle.es/sites/novetle.portalesmunicipales.es/files/images/pedraajunt.jpg

cool beans! Spanish aristocracy is interesting.

[Norrbottning]

My paternal line. The Labba family coat of arms from Jukkasjärvi in northern Lapland.

http://www.drdeathray.se/labba.jpg

[Shkembe Chorba]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/72/BG_Sofia_flag.svg/769px-BG_Sofia_flag.svg.png

http://inews.bg/pictures/1043468_375_282_4x3.jpg

The Flag of Sofia.

[LightHouse89]

Maybe, but it's got to be somewhere between that and 1 in 20.



I'm descended from farmers mostly, I think they were mainly yeomen (farmers that owned some land), so one step up from commoners (peasants that were tenants of a lord). Victorian era ancestry is always interesting in this country - had some mill owners on my paternal side whilst my now snobby maternal side were water gypsies (not actual gypsies, just a name giving to people that lived on the canals and lived on their boats - hence travelers, gypsies).



Yeah, strange. Usually such things are traced paternally.

Yes I mean the only upper class ancestors I can think of was my grandmothers great, great, great grandfather maybe one more great?] who was a Captain in the New York Loyalist Regiment during the war for independence. His surname was Eamer and he was a Hessian from what my family records say. Strange world. He owned a lot of land until the British lost then the American government confiscated it and my ancestors moved to Cornwall ,Ontario, Canada. Eamer is Anglicized from Ammerland or Ammer.

[BarcelonaAtlantis]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTKvPCZJdvU

Busting imposters.

[Kazimiera]

:bump2:

[Kazimiera]

It's been a number of years since this thread was started. Let's add some more! We have plenty of new members!

[Svipdag]

W don't have one, but, my mother always said that, if we did, it would show a pack rat rampant on a pile of junk with the legend :"Save it; we might need it."

[Prisoner Of Ice]

http://i.imgur.com/PtutPhF.jpg

[Leo Iscariot]

http://i60.tinypic.com/245zdx5.jpg

(Allegedly)

The site says it's from Portugalete, Biscay.

[Longbowman]

http://i57.tinypic.com/2v9arr9.jpg

Family motto: adhere and prosper.

[Daco Celtic]

https://i.imgur.com/vFagDwL.jpg

[Bosniensis]

Mora like a tribal coat of arms of my distant cousins

https://i.imgur.com/RGCmbN8.png

[Celine]

Gosh, you're all royals.

I come from families of peasents.

[Oghuz]

Ghavanloo Kadjar Turk tribe

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b6/Imperial_Emblem_of_the_Qajar_Dynasty_%28Lion_and_S un%29.svg/800px-Imperial_Emblem_of_the_Qajar_Dynasty_%28Lion_and_S un%29.svg.png

[Dna8]

https://i.imgur.com/S9Clbo7.png

[Kyp]

I just know the turkic tribe, no royal connection:
Bayat Tribe
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a3/Bayat.svg/1024px-Bayat.svg.png

Mainly part of the Safavid empire
https://www.heraldry-wiki.com/heraldrywiki/images/e/e7/Persia1.jpg

[Kökény]

One of my ancestors surname is shared by various noble families both from Hungary and Transylvania. One particular branch is from our region. I don't know if we are related to them, probably not, but I'll share it anyway.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikibooks/hu/1/16/Kézdiszentléleki_Kozma.JPG

[Kökény]

I just know the turkic tribe, no royal connection:
Bayat Tribe
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a3/Bayat.svg/1024px-Bayat.svg.png

Those Turkic tamgas are really cool, wish we had one too.
The Dulo clan's is my favourite.

[InfamousAngel99]

This is the official coat of arms on a plaque that’s been passed down for generations. I’m sure I will give it to my brother when he has kids, because he’ll be the one to carry on the family name, but for now I own it.
94278

[Aileron]

We dont have these kind of items but they are cool

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

I might as well just post my ID card in here if I were to post the coat of arms of all my three surnames for people to check what they are...

[Roy]

I am a peasant mostly, I don't have a coat of arms therefore. One of my great-grandmothers though was rumoured to come from nobility. There were some who would otherwise work in the field like the rest ...

[Rædwald]

I might as well just post my ID card in here if I were to post the coat of arms of all my three surnames for people to check what they are...

This ^

[PaleoEuropean]

I am a peasant mostly, I don't have a coat of arms therefore. One of my great-grandmothers though was rumoured to come from nobility. There were some who were otherwise work in the field like the rest ...

If you were a peasant on my estates you would be fed well my friend.

[Teutone]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/thumb/8/85/BECKS_LOGO.svg/1200px-BECKS_LOGO.svg.png

[RandomGuy20]

No coat of arms or nobility in my family that I'm aware of - all were soldiers or farmers going back the past few generations.

[Kaspias]

A British general said, "What noble family are you from?" Atatürk answered the question:

Theodosius, who prides himself on the nobility of his mother and father, asked the Attila, who wanted to land on the Italian Peninsula, before the peace meeting: "What noble family are you?" Attila answered him: "I am the son of a noble nation!" That's my answer to you.


https://www.pikpng.com/pngl/b/567-5673519_turkish-flag-logo-vector-trk-bayra-ve-atatrk.png

[Celestia]

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=94295&d=1578144659

[Daco Celtic]

https://i.imgur.com/a4is1t9.jpg

[Ülev]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a8/Great_coat_of_arms_of_Rothschild_family.svg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschild_family

https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_J2_Y-DNA.shtml#famous_people

:rolleyes:

[Satem]

I don't have one I am peasant

[Blemoir]

https://i.imgur.com/Tm4tKA8.jpg

[Keokuk]

102435

[Teutone]

https://www.meininger.de/sites/default/files/field_news_release_image/oettinger_brauerei_vertrieb.jpg

[Ülev]

no, thanks, now I drink

https://youtu.be/lsu--dGM1dY

[Chris596]

I don't have one I am peasant

Same xD I didn't really know it's still a thing today (but it's interesting and cool to see this)

[Ion Basescul]

No posh cunts in this bloodline

[gixajo]

Not among my first surnames(because comes from maternal side), but this one and the stately house in where it is, belonged to direct ancestors of my mother:

https://i.imgur.com/cEXOAm8.png

I know at least one more here that is related directly with my maternal side, but I cannot find any image of it.

I will not post any internet page coat of arms related with my surnames, because any Spanish surname has coat of arms (or many different coat of arms) and this doesn´t imply that has nothing to do with my family.

But this one sure belonged to an ancestor of mine.

[TheMaestro]

Truly noble coat of arms, our family has a signature of having this logo in the fridge.

https://i.imgur.com/S84aIq8.jpg

[PaleoEuropean]

My Y line is a sept of Stewart but we have our own coat of arms

https://i.imgur.com/Gk4Vkkp.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Lv8NIEf.png

[Rafael Passoni]

My paternal line one:
https://www.heraldrysinstitute.com/stemmi_nobiliari2022/webp/1/img/659/idc/263/lang/en/Coat+of+arms+of+family+barattini.webp




No Idea if my family have had it in front of their houses in the past since we are immigrants, but if they did, according to Heraldrys Institute of Rome, likely it would be like that above.

[Beowulf]

maternal surname:
https://i.postimg.cc/ht61sfh3/17016-escudo-durant.jpg (https://postimages.org/)


paternal surname:
https://i.postimg.cc/pX0Z90vv/Gallego.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Jingle Bell]

Have some variations, but overall not too diferent from this
https://i.imgur.com/vqQaQ7i.png

[Flashball]

I don't have.

[Roy]

Unfortunately I don't have a coat of arms. I am not from gentry, nor do I know of any of my ancestors who certainly were. But in Poland there was a period of time when up to 10% of population formally belonged to nobility, hence possessed their coat of arms. Curiously enough a lot of them worked the fields like ordinary peasants.