Eurogenes North Sea and North Atlantic?

[Kazimiera]

I'm trying to understand the areas/countries which would be considered as "North Sea" and "North Atlantic".

I found this map of the North Sea, and judging by this would assume that the "North Sea" countries would be Scotland, UK, Belgium, Netherlands, Germany, Denmark, part of Sweden and Norway. Is this correct?

http://www.worldatlas.com/aatlas/infopage/northsea.gif


Which would be the countries for "North Atlantic" since it is a pretty vast area?

[Atlantic Islander]

Eurogenes K36 references (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9o3EYTdM8lQUlVTRmxQdGpZdW8/edit?pli=1)

[Kazimiera]

North Atlantic = Cornwall, Scotland and Utah (??)

North Sea = Kent and Utah (??)

How the hell does Utah end up in there???

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~tolleygenealogy/utah/usa_blank_utah.jpg

[Pallantides]

Utah Mormon sample.

[Jackson]

Well all the countries highlighted on that map with the exception of parts of Scotland and parts of Belgium typically have North Central Euro/North Sea components as their primary component, followed by Atlantic components, as they are the two primary components of north-west Europeans. Although the North Sea component in Eurogenes K=12 includes a larger Finnic element apparently, so it is less strictly restricted to Germanic populations, and forms the primary component in Irish and Finns as well i think.

[Pallantides]

Primary components for Scandinavians is North Sea, Fennoscandian and North Atlantic , here is my numbers:

23.22% North_Sea
18.07% Fennoscandian
16.12% North_Atlantic
9.61% French
8.86% East_Central_Euro
7.73% Central_Euro
6.20% Eastern_Euro
6.00% Iberian
2.87% Volga-Ural
1.16% East_Balkan

[Graham]

North sea is an area in the very South East.. It represents the Germanic England, with a shared ancestry to it's East in Norway, Netherlands & Denmark..

North Atlantic is Cornwall, with a shared ancestry along the North Atlantic. It represents Pre-Germanic Britain, with a shared ancestry in Ireland & Western Britain.

Don't know what the Utah thing is.

[Kazimiera]

16.76% East_Central_Euro
16.41% North_Sea
13.83% North_Atlantic
8.87% Fennoscandian
8.31% Central_Euro
7.87% Eastern_Euro

These are my top 6.

[Kazimiera]

North sea is an area in the very South East.. It represents the Germanic England, with a shared ancestry to it's East in Norway, Netherlands & Denmark..

North Atlantic is Cornwall, with a shared ancestry along the North Atlantic. It represents Pre-Germanic Britain, with a shared ancestry in Ireland & Western Britain.

Don't know what the Utah thing is.

Aah! Okay. This answer is more along the lines of what I was looking for.

[Pallantides]

I got 9.61% French...

Though I noticed on ABF some other East Norwegians also got France at 9-10% :chin:

[Graham]

I got 9.61% French...

Though I noticed on ABF some other East Norwegians also got France at 9-10% :chin:

France has a connection to the North West rather than to the South. Like a Norman connection or something..France is quite a divided nation of people.

[Graham]

The biggest Percentage I have seen for the North Sea, by a distance, was a Norwegian at 31%.

[Jackson]

France has a connection to the North West rather than to the South. Like a Norman connection or something..France is quite a divided nation of people.

It really needs to be split regionally by default, indeed. The genetic distances within France are bigger than those between different countries in other parts of Europe, astounding but not surprising i guess.

[Dacul]

I got 9.61% French...

Though I noticed on ABF some other East Norwegians also got France at 9-10% :chin:

Think French genes are coming from your mother.
Those vikings who went to Normandy a part of them I think got back,maybe with French women as wives.

[Albion]

North Atlantic = Cornwall, Scotland and Utah (??)

North Sea = Kent and Utah (??)

How the hell does Utah end up in there???

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~tolleygenealogy/utah/usa_blank_utah.jpg

Because it's basically English.