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Lusos
04-14-2013, 01:24 PM
Colonial Portugal to blame for Angola problems.

Angola’s President José Eduardo dos Santos has blamed Portugal for the serious problems his country inherited in terms of infrastructures in Luanda province almost 40 years after gaining independence from the former colonial power.

Angolan news agency Angop said Dos Santos claimed the problems in the province were “due to the complicated situation inherited from colonialisation”, paricularly in “infrastructures and basic sanitation”.

The solution “requires intelligence” he said, while the agency added the president was speaking at a technical meeting on the capital’s problems.

The president also told reporters that the 30 years of civil war “did not allow the country to mobilise the human and financial resources needed to satisfy all the people’s expectations”, and that the size of the challenges “outstrips the capacity” of the authorities.

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This ones also will be blaming us after 500 Years.

I would blame their infrastructure problem to 30 Years of Civil War destroying what was available.
Infrastructures destroyed out of spike.(Because it was built by us)
Corruption(Oil)

And then this.

"...s Isabel dos Santos(Angola president Daughter) owns in at least one bank in Angola, have pushed her net worth over the $1 billion mark, according to research by FORBES, making the 40-year-old Africa’s first woman billionaire."

That's why there's no infrastructure in Angola.
The resources are with them.(Dos Santos)

Methmatician
04-14-2013, 01:28 PM
It was the Portuguese who created the infrastructure :D The Angolans were the ones who destroyed it.

Vasconcelos
04-14-2013, 01:39 PM
With such keen intellect, one does question why is Angola an oligarch shithole instead of a proper nation.

Damião de Góis
04-14-2013, 02:06 PM
He complains but he is not doing bad at all...

http://forbesbillionaires.daylife.com/topic/Jose_Eduardo_Dos_Santos

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kerryadolan/2013/01/23/isabel-dos-santos-daughter-of-angolas-president-is-africas-first-woman-billionaire/

Lusos
04-14-2013, 02:09 PM
Angola in the Sixties (Still under Portuguese Rule)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZysofz-Tgs


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVtYlkMokJg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSEjDDeQ1eE

Vasconcelos
04-14-2013, 03:01 PM
There's a reason Luanda was called "Paris of Africa" once.

Anthropologique
04-14-2013, 03:03 PM
Colonial Portugal to blame for Angola problems.

Angola’s President José Eduardo dos Santos has blamed Portugal for the serious problems his country inherited in terms of infrastructures in Luanda province almost 40 years after gaining independence from the former colonial power.

Angolan news agency Angop said Dos Santos claimed the problems in the province were “due to the complicated situation inherited from colonialisation”, paricularly in “infrastructures and basic sanitation”.

The solution “requires intelligence” he said, while the agency added the president was speaking at a technical meeting on the capital’s problems.

The president also told reporters that the 30 years of civil war “did not allow the country to mobilise the human and financial resources needed to satisfy all the people’s expectations”, and that the size of the challenges “outstrips the capacity” of the authorities.

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This ones also will be blaming us after 500 Years.

I would blame their infrastructure problem to 30 Years of Civil War destroying what was available.
Infrastructures destroyed out of spike.(Because it was built by us)
Corruption(Oil)

And then this.

"...s Isabel dos Santos(Angola president Daughter) owns in at least one bank in Angola, have pushed her net worth over the $1 billion mark, according to research by FORBES, making the 40-year-old Africa’s first woman billionaire."

That's why there's no infrastructure in Angola.
The resources are with them.(Dos Santos)

Excuse me while I LMAO!!

Gaijin
04-14-2013, 03:34 PM
Portugal should cut its affiliation with former colonies, and focus on itself.
These colonies wanted independence for a reason, ergo, they got.
Nothing good come out of Angola, Mozambique, Cape Verde and places alike.

I couldn't think of a better way to enclose this post, than with a banner, by PNR.
http://www.diarioliberdade.org/archivos/imagenes/articulos/0610b/170610_cartazPNR.jpg

Quite frankly, the only colony that I feel relations to, is Macau.
And the Chinese didn't even wanted it back. Peace to all my comrades in Asia.

Lusos
04-14-2013, 03:40 PM
Portugal should cut its affiliation with former colonies, and focus on itself.
These colonies wanted independence for a reason, ergo, they got.
Nothing good come out of Angola, Mozambique, Cape Verde and places alike.

I couldn't think of a better way to enclose this post, than with a banner, by PNR.
http://www.diarioliberdade.org/archivos/imagenes/articulos/0610b/170610_cartazPNR.jpg

Quite frankly, the only colony that I feel relations to, is Macau.
And the Chinese didn't even wanted it back. Peace to all my comrades in Asia.


Speaking of Macau.

"Macao billion dollar bank fund open to Portuguese applicants
The China Development Bank is already accepting projects from Portuguese language countries seeking a slice of its $1 billion (approx. €750 million) in financing, Chang Hexi, Secretary General of the Fórum Macau trade support group, said Wednesday."

derLowe
04-14-2013, 03:44 PM
Almost all the colonies blame the Colonial powers for their problems but without the Colonial powers the colonies would still be underdeveloped and backward. Perhaps the Colonial powers should have destroyed all the infrastructure when they left, so it is not a too great burden on the natives to maintain.

Vasconcelos
04-14-2013, 03:50 PM
Portugal should cut its affiliation with former colonies, and focus on itself.
These colonies wanted independence for a reason, ergo, they got.
Nothing good come out of Angola, Mozambique, Cape Verde and places alike.

I couldn't think of a better way to enclose this post, than with a banner, by PNR.
http://www.diarioliberdade.org/archivos/imagenes/articulos/0610b/170610_cartazPNR.jpg

I don't really like PNR, nor have I ever voted fom them (or even considered it), but I suppose they have a point on these sort of topics. If only they could portray themselves in a more conventional, and "politically correct" way so people wouldn't immediately associate them with Nazis or Salazar..

Lusos
04-14-2013, 03:58 PM
I don't really like PNR, nor have I ever voted fom them (or even considered it), but I suppose they have a point on these sort of topics. If only they could portray themselves in a more conventional, and "politically correct" way so people wouldn't immediately associate them with Nazis or Salazar..

Agree.
But we need more of them in the Parlament.

Gaijin
04-15-2013, 10:44 AM
I don't really like PNR, nor have I ever voted fom them (or even considered it), but I suppose they have a point on these sort of topics. If only they could portray themselves in a more conventional, and "politically correct" way so people wouldn't immediately associate them with Nazis or Salazar..

I think the only reason why they are often regarded as xenophobic, is because of the corporate propaganda against their party.
Liberal media groups such as the comedians "Gato Fedorento", "Vai Tudo Abaixo" and "Contemporâneos" did a number of mockery on their campaign. This fact alone accentuated their image as a respectable party.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5cwQELvATw

HispaniaSagrada
04-16-2013, 05:25 PM
I honestly don't know why anyone would want to live in sub saharan Africa. Maybe it's just my impression from movies, documentaries, stories and whatever. Some of it looks nice but when considering everything, including the tensions, why any European wants to be there I don't know. I kind of feel the same about parts of the world that have lots of bears, too, or where there's tension and I'm in the minority but that's just me. Where I live if I leave the city and walk in the woods there are only animals that are afraid of people or else they are herbivores :rolleyes: so there's not likely to be a problem in that sense.

I'm half joking (but I wouldn't want to live in some parts of the USA either; crocodiles, bears, huge snakes, escaped crazy orangutangs and mountain lions in your backyard. No thanks. Not unless I have some guns at least)