What happened to Kosovo's Circassians?

[Arbërori]

I know that some Circassians settled in Kosovo in the last century of the Ottoman Empire, what happened to them?

I heard that due to the fact they betrayed some Albanian families, most fleed back to Chechnya & Circassia. I even heard something about mixed families being split in half, appareantly the treason was too much one could handle.

I know about the Cerkezi surname, but it's an acquired one, not patrilineal or whatever.

I like the Caucasus people & tribes, do you?

[Arbërori]

:bounce:

[Kastrioti1443]

Fuck, fuck, fuck!!!!!!!

[Arbërori]

Fuck, fuck, fuck!!!!!!!

We... fucked them?

[Kastrioti1443]

We... fucked them?


This news terrified me man, are circisians armeneoid in type???

[Arbërori]

This news terrified me man, are circisians armeneoid in type???

No, I think they're many light types, such as Alpine & etc. They're very beautiful people btw.

[dralos]

they all left and ones who stayed are gypsies now and the surname cerkezi doesnt excist among albanians
cerkezi is a gypsy surname btw

[Kastrioti1443]

they all left and ones who stayed are gypsies now and the surname cerkezi doesnt excist among albanians
cerkezi is a gypsy surname btw
Go and see the thread kosovar albanians

[dralos]

Go and see the thread kosovar albanians
kastriot edhe gjermant kan typa ma te zi lese na shqiptaret,mes fol mo keshtu bohu krenar me populin tend

[Kastrioti1443]

kastriot edhe gjermant kan typa ma te zi lese na shqiptaret,mes fol mo keshtu bohu krenar me populin tend

o vllai shif arjanet e kisha fjalen

[dralos]

o vllai shif arjanet e kisha fjalen
aha oke mefal

[Arianiti]

Cerkeze ka pase gjithkah. Nuk e di pse me hap kete per nje grup shume te parendesishem, qe nuk dihet as qe ka ekzistu, as qe e din shumica.

Te gjithe kane ikur per ne Rusi, sepse kane bashkepunuar me shkje ne luften e fundit mduket

[Arbërori]

they all left and ones who stayed are gypsies now and the surname cerkezi doesnt excist among albanians
cerkezi is a gypsy surname btw

Cerkezi is an acquired surname, it's something like Turku or Arapi, not an ethnic surname. :)

[Arbërori]

Cerkeze ka pase gjithkah.

Te gjithe kane ikur per ne Rusi, sepse kane bashkepunuar me shkje ne luften e fundit mduket

Traitors. Good riddance.

[dralos]

Cerkezi is an acquired surname, it's something like Turku or Arapi, not an ethnic surname. :)
ne gjakova ka ksi po jan krejt magjup,shqiptar nuk ka me kete mbiemer

[Arbërori]

ne gjakova ka ksi po jan krejt magjup,shqiptar nuk ka me kete mbiemer

Ka Shqiptar me kete mbiemer, sic ka Shqiptar me mbiemrin Rusi, ska lidhje me etnine...

[Arianiti]

Keta mesa e di une kane qene nje grup i paperfillshem, per ate shumica nuk e dine as qe kane ekzistu.

[Kastrioti1443]

kam mendimin me e mbyll ket thread, nuk ka pse me degju gja sllavet

[Arianiti]

kam mendimin me e mbyll ket thread, nuk ka pse me degju gja sllavet

Pse, more me mbyll temen. Servet jane krejt magjupe, skemi na ca te mshefim, se po na sheh bota e po na admiron.

Paska Cerkezi, por qenkan te fokusum ne Maqedoni. ja p.sh Selim B. Çerkezi's (Macedonia)

[Kastrioti1443]

Pse, more me mbyll temen.

Paska Cerkezi, por qenkan te fokusum ne Maqedoni. ja p.sh Selim B. Çerkezi's (Macedonia)

sepse do e perdorin serbt per qellimet e tyre, te kaukazit

[Arianiti]

sepse do e perdorin serbt per qellimet e tyre, te kaukazit

Po kush po jau qin nanen ca thojne ata.

[Arbërori]

Skane Slavet lidhje me te, vete jene te perzier me magjupet, lere ti Cerkezet, qe jane te bardh. Mesa e di, ka pas disa edhe ne Bosnje dhe Bullgari.

[Arianiti]

Skane Slaved lidhje me te, vete jene te perzier me magjupet, lere ti Cerkezet, qe jane te bardh. Mesa e di, ka pas disa edhe ne Bosnje dhe Bullgari.

Ka pase te shperndare ne te gjitha vendet e Ballkanit, edhe Greqi, Maqedoni. Me mbiemer Cerkezi paska ne Maqedoni, sa i gjeta ne Google si Selim B. Çerkezi's (Macedonia)

[Hoca]

No, I think they're many light types, such as Alpine & etc. They're very beautiful people btw.

Obsession about Circassian still not over I see.

I think most Circassians moved to Anatolia. They couldn't have moved back to Russia since it is controlled by Russians.

That would be the most logical theory since when the Ottomans retreated a lot of people fled to Turkey for safety and running away from massacre.

[Kastrioti1443]

Skane Slavet lidhje me te, vete jene te perzier me magjupet, lere ti Cerkezet, qe jane te bardh. Mesa e di, ka pas disa edhe ne Bosnje dhe Bullgari.

serbet jane iraniane, prandaj kane 55% sy te zinj, qe kur kan ba ato gjana ne stormfront, me disa malsor e kan dhan besen qe sa te kena mundis do ja qijm robt atyre

[Arianiti]

serbet jane iraniane, prandaj kane 55% sy te zinj, qe kur kan ba ato gjana ne stormfront, me disa malsor e kan dhan besen qe sa te kena mundis do ja qijm robt atyre

Serbet jane krejt magjupe. Ata 70% jane te zi si magjupe.

[Kastrioti1443]

Ka pase te shperndare ne te gjitha vendet e Ballkanit, edhe Greqi, Maqedoni. Me mbiemer Cerkezi paska ne Maqedoni, sa i gjeta ne Google si Selim B. Çerkezi's (Macedonia)

nuk duket i paster, nuk e kam te floket dhe syte, por te tiparet e fytyres, si sirian

[Arbërori]

Obsession about Circassian still not over I see.

I think most Circassians moved to Anatolia. They couldn't have moved back to Russia since it is controlled by Russians.

That would be the most logical theory since when the Ottomans retreated a lot of people fled to Turkey for safety and running away from massacre.

You're not Circassian, so you cannot speak of them. Only Noxcho can on this forum.

Many moved back to Russia, but that was after the Kosovo War... Unfortunately, they sided with the Slavs, so 'mos u ktefshi kurre' for them. :coffee:

[Arianiti]

nuk duket i paster, nuk e kam te floket dhe syte, por te tiparet e fytyres, si sirian

Nuk e di si duken se nuk kam takuar kurre.

[Hoca]

You're not Circassian, so you cannot speak of them. Only Noxcho can on this forum.



Noxcho is not Circassian. He is Chechen. Know the difference kiddy. And yes I'm not Circassian.

[Kastrioti1443]

You're not Circassian, so you cannot speak of them. Only Noxcho can on this forum.

Many moved back to Russia, but that was after the Kosovo War... Unfortunately, they sided with the Slavs, so 'mos u ktefshi kurre' for them. :coffee:

maybe he is ....

[Arbërori]

Noxcho is not Circassian. He is Chechen. Know the difference kiddy. And yes I'm not Circassian.

Very related groups. Exactly, you're a Circassian bastard child. :P

[Arianiti]

There is a video I found about their history


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=F1snbR9cAB8

[Arbërori]

maybe he is ....

He's mixed.

[Hoca]

Very related groups. Exactly, you're a Circassian bastard child. :P

No they are not the same people. Again an insult when proven wrong. You were just unbanned. Reported. Haha.


He's mixed.

Only minor part of my ancestry. But in Turkey we see Circassians as part of the Turkish identity.

[Arbërori]

No they are not the same people. Again an insult when proven wrong. You were just unbanned. Reported. Haha.

Only minor part of my ancestry. But in Turkey we see Circassians as part of the Turkish identity.

I didn't say that. 'Bastard child' is not an insult, depends on how you take it.

They're their own people. Stop claiming them.

[dralos]

kastriot kur do ta besh ti ni thred per klasifikim

[Kastrioti1443]

I didn't say that. 'Bastard child' is not an insult, depends on how you take it.

They're their own people. Stop claiming them.

lol albanians, bosniaks, circisians, ukranians, all turks = a lot of white turks

[Kastrioti1443]

kastriot kur do ta besh ti ni thred per klasifikim

per mue?

[Hoca]

lol albanians, bosniaks, circisians, ukranians, all turks = a lot of white turks

Circassians are whiter than Albanians.


I didn't say that. 'Bastard child' is not an insult, depends on how you take it.
It is insult to family. Go learn the meaning of that word.



They're their own people. Stop claiming them.
I didn't

[Arbërori]

Sigurisht edhe ty do i cmendish vajzat ne kete forum. :D Hajde te te klasifikojme. :P

[Arbërori]

Circassians are whiter than Albanians.

Depends which ones. Unfortunately, some are also Mongoloid admixed.

[Kastrioti1443]

Circassians are whiter than Albanians.

the same, if we take into consideration only northern albanian highlanders ( of Kosova too), than albanians are evan whiter

31968

[dralos]

per mue?
po per ty

[Arianiti]

Circassians are whiter than Albanians.




What is their mother tongue? In what group it falls?

[Kastrioti1443]

Sigurisht edhe ty do i cmendish vajzat ne kete forum. :D Hajde te te klasifikojme. :P

per disa arsye nuk mundem ende me e nxjerr fytyren time, por nodshta pas disa kohesh..... por po doni me pas i ide, jam si dralosi, vetem me sy pak me te medhenj e gri e buz me te holla

[dralos]

i'm sorry but only white circassians are the ones who mixed with russians wich probably have by now zero circassian blood

[dralos]

per disa arsye nuk mundem ende me e nxjerr fytyren time, por nodshta pas disa kohesh..... por po doni me pas i ide, jam si dralosi, vetem me sy pak me te medhenj e gri e buz me te holla
qfar nder per ty mem prenqa mua ahahaaha
une i kam syt te gjelbër

[Kastrioti1443]

qfar nder per ty mem prenqa mua ahahaaha
une i kam syt te gjelbër

geg beotherhood!!! ke ndonje prejardhje prej shale, se shaljant jane goxha me sy jeshil?

[The.Mask]

Ka Shqiptar me kete mbiemer, sic ka Shqiptar me mbiemrin Rusi, ska lidhje me etnine...

Po, ka mbiemer Arapi edhe Rusi ne Dibër.

[dralos]

geg beotherhood!!! ke ndonje prejardhje prej shale, se shaljant jane goxha me sy jeshil?
qysh emdoket mu kta te kosoves lindore jan dardanet e vertet se na te rrafshit dukagjinit jemi taman ilir shume pi neve vijem pi malsis
une ekam prejardhjen pi malit te zi plazhit ku osht fisi kelmend po pe fole per qindra vjeta ketu

[Kastrioti1443]

qysh emdoket mu kta te kosoves lindore jan dardanet e vertet se na te rrafshit dukagjinit jemi taman ilir shume pi neve vijem pi malsis
une ekam prejardhjen pi malit te zi plazhit ku osht fisi kelmend po pe fole per qindra vjeta ketu

dardanet a nuk jane ilir??? kam van re shume bardhesi nder preshevare ( perjashto jevgjitet ne ket vidio), ne nje vidio ku tregoheshin mbi 350 maturante

[dralos]

dardanet a nuk jane ilir??? kam van re shume bardhesi nder preshevare ( perjashto jevgjitet ne ket vidio), ne nje vidio ku tregoheshin mbi 350 maturante
po preshevaret jan nisoj si shqiptaret se jetojen ne kosoven lindore po dardanet jan mix e thrakianve edhe ilirve kurse na te rrafshit dukagjinit jemi vetem ilir pa elementin thrak

[Arbërori]

Thraket dhe Iliret jane te njejtit popull. Eshte sikur me than qe nje esht Gheg, dhe tjetri Tosk. :P

[Kastrioti1443]

Thraket dhe Iliret jane te njejtit popull. Eshte sikur me than qe nje esht Gheg, dhe tjetri Tosk. :P

kan pas ndryshime... perse bullgaret dhe rumunet jane shume me te shkurten se shqiptaret per shembull??

[Arbërori]

kan pas ndryshime... perse bullgaret dhe rumunet jane shume me te shkurten se shqiptaret per shembull??

I vetmi ndryshim ka qene fakti se Bullgaret dhe Romunet jane Slavizuar. Gjuha thuhet se ka qene pothuajse e njejte. :)

[dralos]

thracians were abit different in them pontid was more common

[Arbërori]

thracians were abit different in them pontid was more common

Yes, but they were two tribes of the same people. The Dacians were a Thracian offshot though, but they all got Latinized afterwards.

[The Illyrian Warrior]

qysh emdoket mu kta te kosoves lindore jan dardanet e vertet se na te rrafshit dukagjinit jemi taman ilir shume pi neve vijem pi malsis
une ekam prejardhjen pi malit te zi plazhit ku osht fisi kelmend po pe fole per qindra vjeta ketu

Natyrisht qe jane dardan se jane autokton ne ato toka, po Shqiptaret e Kosoves Lindore jane edhe patriota te zjarrte :)

[The Illyrian Warrior]

geg beotherhood!!! ke ndonje prejardhje prej shale, se shaljant jane goxha me sy jeshil?


Nese e ke fjalen per Shaljanet e Kosoves une e kam prejardhje prej aty dhe eshte shume e vertet ajo cka thu sepse shumica e familjes tem jan me sy kalter dhe si regjon kemi nje pamje me nordike ne krahasim me regjionet tjera te Kosoves e mos te flas fare per zonat e jugut.....Shala e Kosoves si regjion mund te them eshte regjioni me i paster per nga gjaku si dhe me veriori ku jetojne shqiptaret....Sigurisht izolimi malor e ka be te mundur ruajtjen e gjakut me se miri :thumb001:

[Böri]

Albanians organized pogrom against them which ended in deportation and fleeing. Typical of Albos.

[Rumata]

Circassians are known for their loyalty to the country of residence. So, it's likely that they stayed loyal to Serbia which illegal Albanian paramilitary organization UCK didn't tolerate. Circassians of Kosovo had to move to the historical Circassian land in Caucasus where they got a new settlement.

[Krivich]

Friends, it is a mistake to divide people into Europeans and non-Europeans. Europeans are too different to be one group. The very inhabitants of Europe should be divided into true Europeans: Neanderthals, Albanians, Basques and Eurasians: Scandinavians, Germans, Slavs, Finns

[jackrussell]

Circassians of Balkans mostly moved back to Anatolia and/or Mesopotamia ; few families managed to move back to Circassia proper.

[Böri]

Circassians of Balkans mostly moved back to Anatolia and/or Mesopotamia ; few families managed to move back to Circassia proper.

Anatolia and Mesopotamia are Turkey as much as NW Caucasus is Circassia, if not more.

[jackrussell]

Anatolia and Mesopotamia are Turkey as much as NW Caucasus is Circassia, if not more.

:D


Name Turkey ought to be Turkistan .

[Böri]

:D


Name Turkey ought to be Turkistan .

Nay nay. Since 1086, Anatolia+Mesopotamia are marked as (first Turcomania, then) Turchia by same people and mappers who were marking NW Caucasus as Circassia; that is Italians, Venetians to be more precise.

[Pribislav]

Among Serbs, Croatians and B&H Muslims exist surname Čerkez and Kerkez, it's rare but exist. Probably originated from assimilated Circassians.

https://actacroatica.com/en/surname/Čerkez/

https://actacroatica.com/en/surname/Kerkez/

Čerkez means Circassian https://sh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Čerkezi

[Moje ime]

Serbs were not cleanse

Serbs were constantly attacked by their Albanian neighbours in Kosovo during Yugoslavia times, while Albanians from Albania were coming and settle down to Kosovo. This culminated in 1980s. Video contains testimonials about that.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=39&v=Z1dtOAGD0pk

[Albobalboa]

“Atë që na bën neve rusët para më shumë se një shekulli, Serbia tentoi t’ua bëjë shqiptarëve gjatë viteve të ’90-ta, por që nuk ia arriti”, ka shtuar ai.

https://telegrafi.com/cerkezet-populli-ndaj-te-cileve-ruset-kryen-gjenocid-kosova-dhe-historia-e-popullit-te-bukur-sykalter-foto/

Great article on the Circassian community in Kosovo. Great shame what the Russians did to them. Seems they are still active in Kosovo and living well, bless them.

[jackrussell]

Nay nay. Since 1086, Anatolia+Mesopotamia are marked as (first Turcomania, then) Turchia by same people and mappers who were marking NW Caucasus as Circassia; that is Italians, Venetians to be more precise.

ProtoTurks have been here since antiquity ; names do change over few millennia ; patato or potato ?


:D

[jackrussell]

https://telegrafi.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/circassia.jpg

[jackrussell]

https://telegrafi.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Cerkezet04.jpg

https://telegrafi.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/circassia.jpg

[Rumata]

https://artchive.ru/res/media/img/oy800/work/905/331873@2x.jpeg

https://artchive.ru/artists/13825~Ivan_Aivazovsky/works/35231~The_capture_of_Russian_sailors_of_the_Turkis h_boats_and_the_release_of_prisoners_of_Caucasian_ women