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Amun
04-18-2013, 03:55 PM
Bandar bin Sultan (Arabic: الأمير بندر بن سلطان بن عبدالعزيز آل سعود‎) (born 2 March 1949) is a member of the House of Saud and was Saudi Arabia's ambassador to the United States from 1983 to 2005. In 2005, he was named as Secretary General of the National Security Council. He was appointed Director General of the Saudi Intelligence Agency by King Abdullah on 19 July 2012.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandar_bin_Sultan

http://image.almanar.com.lb/edimg/2012/MiddleEast/Saudi/imgid120296.jpg
http://www.aljazeera.net/mritems/images/2003/10/24/1_182071_1_34.jpg
http://i.aksalser.com/news_pics/2012/07/23/379688358.jpg
http://www.alriyadh.com/Contents/21-09-2003/Mainpage/images/p19.jpg

Methusalem
04-18-2013, 05:49 PM
His mother was a SSA concubine, obviously of Southeastafrican ancestry. Typical Bantu-Arab mix which can be found all over the Arabian Peninsula.

Kafrid-Arabid.

Amun
04-18-2013, 05:58 PM
His mother was a SSA concubine, obviously of Southeastafrican ancestry. Typical Bantu-Arab mix which can be found all over the Arabian Peninsula.

Kafrid-Arabid.

Surprisingly his African influence resembles SSA not EA.

Methusalem
04-18-2013, 06:01 PM
Surprisingly his African influence resembles SSA not EA.

EA is in Subsahara-Africa. I was not talking about Horners but about Southeastafricans for example from places like Tanzania, Uganda etc. He is half Bantu/half Arab and looks like that. Could never pass in the Horn of Africa.

Amun
04-18-2013, 06:05 PM
EA is in Subsahara-Africa. I was not talking about Horners but about Southeastafricans for example from places like Tanzania, Uganda etc. He is half Bantu/half Arab and looks like that. Could never pass in the Horn of Africa.

Makes sense then. Horners show visible Caucasian traits in their phenotypes.

Kastrioti1443
04-18-2013, 06:07 PM
Makes sense then. Horners show visible Caucasian traits in their phenotypes.

Can you give us examples because I have no idea about this issues.

Methusalem
04-18-2013, 06:10 PM
Can you give us examples because I have no idea about this issues.


http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg535/scaled.php?server=535&filename=220pxabdullahiyusufahme.jpg&res=medium

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg155/scaled.php?server=155&filename=sehinbelewsouthmediterr.jpg&res=medium

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg200/scaled.php?server=200&filename=marcussamuelsonoriental.png&res=medium

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg90/scaled.php?server=90&filename=iranidtomediterranidton.jpg&res=medium

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg849/scaled.php?server=849&filename=somalisouthmediterranid.jpg&res=medium

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg291/scaled.php?server=291&filename=dinarid.jpg&res=medium

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/7056/1dinaroaethiopidsomali.jpg

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg202/scaled.php?server=202&filename=leptodolichomorphertype.jpg&res=medium

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg510/scaled.php?server=510&filename=cromagnosouthmediterran.jpg&res=medium

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg28/scaled.php?server=28&filename=ubahsouthmediterranid.jpg&res=medium

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg521/scaled.php?server=521&filename=47731982318661715.gif&res=medium

Amun
04-18-2013, 06:14 PM
Can you give us examples because I have no idea about this issues.

Horner Africans are considered of the same Semitic stock (they have 40 - 60% Semitic blood in them), therefore they tend to show caucasian features. An example these Ethiopians

http://ethiopiaforums.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Bruktawit-Tigabucreator-of-Ethiopian-childrens-TV-show-Tsehai-Loves-Learning.jpg
http://i1.trekearth.com/photos/25173/ethiopian_girlw.jpg

Kastrioti1443
04-18-2013, 06:16 PM
None of them has african nose. Some of them look indid, or evan iranid.

Amun
04-18-2013, 06:19 PM
None of them has african nose. Some of them look indid, or evan iranid.

It's simply caucasian features.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8f/Semitic_languages.svg/300px-Semitic_languages.svg.png

Methusalem
04-18-2013, 06:35 PM
Horner Africans are considered of the same Semitic stock (they have 40 - 60% Semitic blood in them), therefore they tend to show caucasian features. An example these Ethiopians


They did not get their 'caucasian features' from Semitic people. You are going to find 'caucasian features in whole Eastafrica not only the Horn of Africa.

What about those Tutsi and Massai people? They have at max . 5% Westasian admixture but have so called 'caucasian features'.

1.Masai

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg845/scaled.php?server=845&filename=webboldmassaiwarrior250.jpg&res=medium

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg847/scaled.php?server=847&filename=maasaiman.jpg&res=medium

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg845/scaled.php?server=845&filename=massai.jpg&res=medium

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg824/scaled.php?server=824&filename=glowatzkirassen6bw3.jpg&res=medium


2.Tutsi

http://paulkagame.com/2010/images/stories/president%20kagame-rwanda-official-headshot.jpg

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg812/scaled.php?server=812&filename=nkunda.png&res=medium

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg6/scaled.php?server=6&filename=tutsi.jpg&res=medium

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg257/scaled.php?server=257&filename=tutsi2.jpg&res=medium

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg214/scaled.php?server=214&filename=tutsi3.jpg&res=medium

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg690/scaled.php?server=690&filename=tutsi2.jpg&res=medium

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg135/scaled.php?server=135&filename=tutsi3.jpg&res=medium

Kastrioti1443
04-18-2013, 06:38 PM
They did not get their 'caucasian features' from Semitic people. You are going to find 'caucasian features in whole Eastafrica not only the Horn of Africa.

What about those Tutsi and Massai people? They have at max . 5% Westasian admixture but have so called 'caucasian features'.

1.Masai

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg845/scaled.php?server=845&filename=webboldmassaiwarrior250.jpg&res=medium

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg847/scaled.php?server=847&filename=maasaiman.jpg&res=medium

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg845/scaled.php?server=845&filename=massai.jpg&res=medium

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg824/scaled.php?server=824&filename=glowatzkirassen6bw3.jpg&res=medium


2.Tutsi

http://paulkagame.com/2010/images/stories/president%20kagame-rwanda-official-headshot.jpg

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg812/scaled.php?server=812&filename=nkunda.png&res=medium

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg6/scaled.php?server=6&filename=tutsi.jpg&res=medium

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg257/scaled.php?server=257&filename=tutsi2.jpg&res=medium

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg214/scaled.php?server=214&filename=tutsi3.jpg&res=medium

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg690/scaled.php?server=690&filename=tutsi2.jpg&res=medium

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg135/scaled.php?server=135&filename=tutsi3.jpg&res=medium

how do you explain that?

Amun
04-18-2013, 06:44 PM
They did not get their 'caucasian features' from Semitic people. You are going to find 'caucasian features in whole Eastafrica not only the Horn of Africa.

What about those Tutsi and Massai people? They have at max . 5% Westasian admixture but have so called 'caucasian features'.

1.Masai



2.Tutsi



No, Maasai are Nilotic ethnic group and they do not show any Caucasian tendency, while Tutsi are Congoiod group but with significant West Asian (Semitic) on them.

Methusalem
04-18-2013, 06:49 PM
No, Maasai are Nilotic ethnic group and they do not show any Caucasian tendency, while Tutsi are Congoiod group but with significant West Asian (Semitic) on them.

I know that Maasai people are Nilotics and that Tutsi people are Niger-Kongo speakers. Nevertheless a lot of them show clearly so called 'caucasian features' like for example Paul Kagama.

http://paulkagame.com/2010/images/stories/president%20kagame-rwanda-official-headshot.jpg

Amun
04-18-2013, 06:55 PM
I know that Maasai people are Nilotics and that Tutsi people are Niger-Kongo speakers. Nevertheless a lot of them show clearly so called 'caucasian features' like for example Paul Kagama.

http://paulkagame.com/2010/images/stories/president%20kagame-rwanda-official-headshot.jpg

I am not sure if he is mixed or not, but Tutsi genetics shows significant Bantu (SSA) tendency.


Modern-day genetic studies of the Y-chromosome suggest that the Tutsi are largely of Bantu extraction (80% E1b1a, 15% B, 4% E3). Paternal genetic influences associated with the Horn of Africa and North Africa are few (1% E1b1b), and are ascribed to much earlier inhabitants who were assimilated. The Tutsi, in general, demonstrate a close genetic kinship with neighboring Bantu populations, particularly the Hutu

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tutsi

Methusalem
04-18-2013, 07:00 PM
No, Maasai are Nilotic ethnic group and they do not show any Caucasian tendency, while Tutsi are Congoiod group but with significant West Asian (Semitic) on them.

As far as I know the SouthWest Asian admixture is too low among Tutsi people. Too low to be seen in their phenotype.

Smeagol
04-19-2013, 02:04 AM
Arabid/Bantu.

Smeagol
04-19-2013, 02:05 AM
They did not get their 'caucasian features' from Semitic people. You are going to find 'caucasian features in whole Eastafrica not only the Horn of Africa.

Yes they did, Horn Africans have a lot of Caucasoid blood.