Russian Genocide made by Americans and Nato

[RussiaPrussia]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7935527.stm

LiveLeak.com - 8 yr old Russian gets lethal dose of Heroin *Extremely Loud* (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1f4_1173505553)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTFpKDT-fo0


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BXsLfzUSCw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCGWWhgqJX8

its supported by the US because afghanistan is bordering to all countries who have something against america like iran, china, soviet countries, pakistan and india.

List of countries by prevalence of opiates use - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_prevalence_of_opiates_use)

when did Nato invade the country? Ah yeah in 2001 and since 2002 heroin production sky rocket

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5c/Afghanistan_opium_poppy_cultivation_1994-2007b.PNG

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_Convention#Definition_of_genocide


Definition of genocide

Article 2 of the Convention defines genocide as

...any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
— Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, Article 2[3]
Article 3 defines the crimes that can be punished under the convention:

(a) Genocide;
(b) Conspiracy to commit genocide;
(c) Direct and public incitement to commit genocide;
(d) Attempt to commit genocide;
(e) Complicity in genocide.
— Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, Article 3[3]

[RussiaPrussia]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q_KdQ5v58I


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgaf_wisyjU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5D_rFHRG78


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7i5vp2BqfT4

[Eddie Quist]

NATO is dead, or havent you noticed its decline in European affairs since the fall of Communism.

[RussiaPrussia]

NATO is dead, or havent you noticed its decline in European affairs since the fall of Communism.

yeah sure thats why germany, uk and a bunch of other countries are in afghanistan

[Eddie Quist]

yeah sure thats why germany, uk and a bunch of other countries are in afghanistan
NATO after 9/11: An Alliance in Continuing Decline (review) (http://www.cfr.org/nato/natos-decline-over-libya/p24697)

[RussiaPrussia]

NATO after 9/11: An Alliance in Continuing Decline (review) (http://www.cfr.org/nato/natos-decline-over-libya/p24697)

yeah because america is powerfull enough without the other countries. Doesnt change the fact that other nato countries participate in this genocide.

[Eddie Quist]

yeah because america is powerfull enough without the other countries. Doesnt change the fact that other nato countries participate in this genocide.NATO is being replaced with a combined European defence force.

[RussiaPrussia]

NATO is being replaced with a combined European defence force.

haha dream on

[meAyin-sixteen]

RussiaPrussia.

Last time you asked me if l was athe Chechen or some hidden Caucasian mole and l will delibaretly avoid all grammar rules again, to express myself in a way understandable even for you.

Russia is nest of crime and horor and Russians itself through history was the main victims of its government. Who killed more Russians then russian tzars and Stalin itself? Who commited most horrific atrosities on its own men?! threat come from kremel not by some desperate rebel at caucasus, you moron.

So get the hell out from here pointing finger at American and other. Go to Chechens and all those you brutaly crushed and do repent your sins. Say to them: We Russians (our goverment) are the worst murderers there is. Million years is not enough to wipe all blood we spelled.

When God see you are honest, he will help you and dissolve Russia for your own benefit.

[RussiaPrussia]

RussiaPrussia.

Last time you asked me if l was athe Chechen or some hidden Caucasian mole and l will delibaretly avoid all grammar rules again, to express myself in a way understandable even for you.

Russia is nest of crime and horror and Russians itself through history was the main victims of its government. Who killed more Russians then russian tzars and Stalin itself? Who commited most horrific atrosities on its own men?! threat come from kremel not from some rebel at caucasus, you moron.

So get the hell out from here pointing finger at American and other. Go to Chechens and all those you brutaly crushed and do repent your sins. Say to them: We Russians (our goverment) are the worst murderers there is. Million years is not enough to wipe all blood we spelled.

When God see you are honest, he will help you and dissolve Russia for your own benefit.

roflmao its americas fault, before the invasion you can clearly see opium production was low and it was even forbbiden by the taliban but now its in full scale. Because america wants it like this.

here other countries suffer the same, its not russias fault or that of russian society.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOBUzptWW-8


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQagGhbRI8Q


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ziWYIS8wVk

how you feel that your government supports genocide?

[RussiaPrussia]

Of course europe is not save either after iran and russia europe is the third largest heroin user per capita despite being americas allies


http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xioo3g_luxembourg-drug-dealers-european-journal_news#.UXOVAJa7bfU

http://www.examiner.com/article/who-uses-most-of-the-world-s-heroin

http://www.unodc.org/documents/wdr/WDR_2010/1.2_The_global_heroin_market.pdf


The Math:
Russia's 141,927,297 people consume 70 metric tons or 70,000 kilos, for a total of .000493 kilos per person. Russia's per capita heroin consumption is nearly double that of Iran, the runner-up. Iran's 72,000,000 people consume 17 metric tons or 17,000 kilos, for a total of .000236 kilos per person.

Europe comes in third for global heroin use per capita. Europe's 710 million people consume 88 metric tons or 88,000 kilos, for a total of .000123 kilos per person.

Pakistan ties Europe for third place in overall per capita heroin use. Pakistan's 169,869,000 people consume 21 metric tons or 21,000 kilos, for a total of .000123 kilos per person.

Per capita heroin use falls off sharply among the U.S., Canada, and other countries that make up the top ten global heroin consumers. U.S.A. & Canada's 341 million people consume 21 metric tons or 21,000 kilos, for a total of .000061 kilos per person. China's 1,324,655,000 people consume 45 metric tons or 45,000 kilos, for a total of 0.0000339 kilos per person.

Africa's 840 million people consume 24 metric tons or 24,000 kilos, for a total of .0000285 kilos per person. Southeast Asia 593,000,000 people consume 17 metric tons or 17,000 kilos, for a total of .0000286 kilos per person. India 1,182,500,000 people consume 17 metric tons or 17,000 kilos, for a total of .0000143 kilos per person.


The Regional Breakdown for Heroin Consumption:

Europe - 26% at 88 metric tons
Russia - 21% at 70 metric tons
China - 13% at 45 metric tons
Africa - 7% at 24 metric tons
U.S.A. & Canada - 6% at 21 metric tons
Pakistan - 6% at 21 metric tons
India - 5% at 17 metric tons
Southeast Asia - 5% at 17 metric tons
Iran - 5% at 17 metric tons

[Methmatician]

I don't think it counts as genocide if people choose to take the stuff that kills them.

[RussiaPrussia]

I don't think it counts as genocide if people choose to take the stuff that kills them.


Definition of genocide

Article 2 of the Convention defines genocide as

...any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
— Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, Article 2[3]
Article 3 defines the crimes that can be punished under the convention:

(a) Genocide;
(b) Conspiracy to commit genocide;
(c) Direct and public incitement to commit genocide;
(d) Attempt to commit genocide;
(e) Complicity in genocide.
— Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, Article 3[3]

[The Lively Rock]

i hate the policies of american companies of spreading all around the world like a cancer. they're doing it in ex-soviet, canada (well, they've been here forever but since conservative gov't they've been doing it more openly) , and europe.

[RussiaPrussia]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eD2OIG1Bwbk

[Methmatician]

(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
Russians are giving it to themselves. They're not being kidnapped, strapped into chairs and forced to take the drugs.


(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
People are taking drugs because they're poor and probably had a rough upbringing. The situation in Russia today was not caused by NATO or America but the fall of Communism which collapsed by itself. Then there was a rough period and then Putin came along and improved the country. However, there are still many poor people in Russia who take drugs because they have nothing else.


(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
How exactly are Americans and NATO preventing the births of Russians? They aren't imposing anything on these people.

These people are killing themselves. Think of it this way: if you decide to buy a gun from a gun store and then kill yourself with that gun it doesn't count as murder by the gun store owner, it's the fault of the person who killed himself.

[RussiaPrussia]

Russians are giving it to themselves. They're not being kidnapped, strapped into chairs and forced to take the drugs.


People are taking drugs because they're poor and probably had a rough upbringing. The situation in Russia today was not caused by NATO or America but the fall of Communism which collapsed by itself. Then there was a rough period and then Putin came along and improved the country. However, there are still many poor people in Russia who take drugs because they have nothing else.


How exactly are Americans and NATO preventing the births of Russians? They aren't imposing anything on these people.

These people are killing themselves. Think of it this way: if you decide to buy a gun from a gun store and then kill yourself with that gun it doesn't count as murder by the gun store owner, it's the fault of the person who killed himself.

they are helping to spread aids and people who are addicted get more birth defects if they ever want to have children. Americans are clearly not helping to fight drug production, you can see that drug production skyrocket after invasion.

And you have to ask you the question why should they stop production`? All their enemies and other powerful countries who are their geopolitical competitor are bordering to afghanistan, soviet countries, iran, pakistan, china and india. You're very naive.

And people taking drugs because they are poor? Yeah sure, they can afford it.

[RussiaPrussia]

Russians are giving it to themselves. They're not being kidnapped, strapped into chairs and forced to take the drugs.



(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

[Methmatician]

they are helping to spread aids and people who are addicted get more birth defects if they ever want to have children. Americans are clearly not helping to fight drug production, you can see that drug production skyrocket after invasion.

Er, no they're not. Drug production sky rocketed because there was no law and order. The Taliban were very strict, and the Americans aren't there to govern the country. Afghanistan is a very corrupt country because of the constant war they experience. Americans or NATO is not helping the spread so they cannot be held accountable.


And you have to ask you the question why should they stop production`? All their enemies and other powerful countries who are their geopolitical competitor are bordering to afghanistan, soviet countries, iran, pakistan, china and india. You're very naive.

They don't stop it because it is of no concern to them, that's why they have the 'war on drugs' only in the US. They don't try to export their war on drugs, it's up to the Afghan government to fight the heroin problem.


And people taking drugs because they are poor? Yeah sure, they can afford it.

Drugs are cheap in Russia. I've seen documentaries where people rummage all day through garbage to find valuable things to sell so that they can pay for drugs.


(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

Again, NATO and America aren't doing this, you're just too proud to ever think that Russia could have social problems.

[glass]

Drug industry bloomed in afghanistan during decade of american occupation. But heroin is not only drug we know. If there wasnt heroin from afghanistan there would be drugs from some other places. Main problem is unability of putin's regime to control drug distrubution in Russia. Actually besides big cities and some regions Russia is just third world country where police is largest drug dealer. Sad but true

[RussiaPrussia]

Drug industry bloomed in afghanistan during decade of american occupation. But heroin is not only drug we know. If there wasnt heroin from afghanistan there would be drugs from some other places. Main problem is unability of putin's regime to control drug distrubution in Russia. Actually besides big cities and some regions Russia is just third world country where police is largest drug dealer. Sad but true

dude youre not russian but some russophobcreep get out, russia is not third world country

Russia is one of the richest eastern european economies with a gdp per capita of 14 thousand dollars, its not that much far away from taiwan or portugal for example with 20 thousand. Only slovenia, estonia, czech and slovak republics are richer than russia.

http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/weo/2013/01/weodata/weorept.aspx?pr.x=46&pr.y=3&sy=2011&ey=2012&scsm=1&ssd=1&sort=country&ds=.&br=1&c=914%2C962%2C911%2C912%2C913%2C921%2C943%2C963%2C 918%2C964%2C182%2C960%2C968%2C922%2C935%2C942%2C93 9%2C936%2C961%2C174%2C528%2C944%2C186%2C926%2C916% 2C542%2C967%2C917%2C941&s=NGDPDPC&grp=0&a=

[inactive_member]

People are taking drugs because they're poor and probably had a rough upbringing.

The very best expensive private schools have problems with drugs in the developed world. Simply because such schools are targeted as school students are from wealthy familiy who have pocket money to buy expensive drugs. You can search the web, there is plenty of information on the subject. People of 16-20 years of age are most vulnerable and need to be protected.

[Methmatician]

dude youre not russian but some russophobcreep get out


That's your problem. You think any criticism of Russia is Russophobic.

[RussiaPrussia]

Er, no they're not. Drug production sky rocketed because there was no law and order. The Taliban were very strict, and the Americans aren't there to govern the country. Afghanistan is a very corrupt country because of the constant war they experience. Americans or NATO is not helping the spread so they cannot be held accountable.



They don't stop it because it is of no concern to them, that's why they have the 'war on drugs' only in the US. They don't try to export their war on drugs, it's up to the Afghan government to fight the heroin problem.



Drugs are cheap in Russia. I've seen documentaries where people rummage all day through garbage to find valuable things to sell so that they can pay for drugs.



Again, NATO and America aren't doing this, you're just too proud to ever think that Russia could have social problems.

yeah blame the russians like always, blame the jews for not going out from germany when nazis came into power.

Its obvious that people will behave that way if you trigger things like opium production in afghanistan, america and nato arent doing anything to stop so they are responsible for it in the first place. Again youre typical anglo, thinking that personal will is always causing but its not the truth. If you set the conditions people will act that way its called macro politics.

[RussiaPrussia]

That's your problem. You think any criticism of Russia is Russophobic.

sry but people lose for me any argument saying russia is a third world country. Because it isnt. He has also only 6 posts i bet he logged in as fake russian or hes extremely dumb western russian living in moscow who simple hates his country.

[meAyin-sixteen]

roflmao its americas fault, before the invasion you can clearly see opium production was low and it was even forbbiden by the taliban but now its in full scale. Because america wants it like this.

here other countries suffer the same, its not russias fault or that of russian society.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOBUzptWW-8


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQagGhbRI8Q


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ziWYIS8wVk

how you feel that your government supports genocide?

l feel...

And l am not here to defend Americans, nor to blame Russians for everything baaad that´s happening now. As for my government, they are even worse than Putin´s gang,,, just a bunch of sodomists and psychopats, the lousiest scum you can imagine.

But they don´t have nuks and due to their insignificance, they are not capable to spread evil all over the globe as your dear Rossia (or USA) does.

[Methmatician]

yeah blame the russians like always, blame the jews for not going out from germany when nazis came into power.

Russians are in charge of their own country and people need to be responsible for their own actions.


Its obvious that people will behave that way if you trigger things like opium production in afghanistan, america and nato arent doing anything to stop so they are responsible for it in the first place.

American and NATO didn't introduce the drugs into Russia so they can't be held accountable for whatever happens in relation to these drugs. It's drug dealers who profited from the chaos of Afghanistan in the past 50 years and they're the ones who are selling drugs to people around the word.


Again youre typical anglo

Again you're an idiot because I'm not Anglo-Saxon.


thinking that personal will is always causing but its not the truth. If you set the conditions people will act that way its called macro politics.

America and NATO did not invade Russia and sell drugs to it's people. America and NATO have nothing to do with the current economic situation in Russia. The fall of Communism in the Soviet Union is what caused the economic situation today and the corrupt leaders of your country are doing nothing to fix anything. If you're going to blame anyone for the current situation in Russia then blame those who brought communism to Russia; the bolsheviks. And blame the corruption in Russia for not doing anything to fix the situation.

[glass]

dude youre not russian but some russophobcreep get out, russia is not third world country

Russia is one of the richest eastern european economies with a gdp per capita of 14 thousand dollars, its not that much far away from taiwan or portugal for example with 20 thousand. Only slovenia, estonia, czech and slovak republics are richer than russia.


i didnt say Russia is third world country i did say large part of population live in "third world" conditions
Yes Russia one is richest in east europe, but this "richness" is not equal among regions. While Moscow has western salaries/ living standards some regions have "third world" ones.
Russia' gdp per capita (PPP) is 21 thousands dollars actually, not 14
btw there are many lies and bullshit about Russia but it does not give us right spread another lies about Russia, lets be honest

He has also only 6 posts i bet he logged in as fake russian or hes extremely dumb western russian living in moscow who simple hates his country.
i was on this forums for like 7-8 months jsut decided to start participate discussions a week ago.
Russia has its good and bad sides, like any other country, exposing bad side does not mean hate.

[RussiaPrussia]

i didnt say Russia is third world country i did say large part of population live in "third world" conditions
Yes Russia one is richest in east europe, but this "richness" is not equal among regions. While Moscow has western salaries/ living standards some regions have "third world" ones.
Russia' gdp per capita (PPP) is 21 thousands dollars actually, not 14
btw there are many lies and bullshit about Russia but it does not give us right spread another lies about Russia, lets be honest

i was on this forums for like 7-8 months jsut decided to start participate discussions a week ago.
Russia has its good and bad sides, like any other country, exposing bad side does not mean hate.

its 14 thousand nominal and 22 thousand in purchasing power, and no only caucasus has third world standard


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Russian_federal_subjects_by_GDP_per_capita

[glass]

its 14 thousand nominal and 22 thousand in purchasing power, and no only caucasus has third world standard
Irrelevant
Putin's tribute to Caucasus is big enough (taken from russian regions obviously). Those churkas are fine.
Stories like this http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%84%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BA%D1%82_% D0%B2_%D0%A1%D0%B0%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%B5
usually happens in "russian" regions
Dude, better stop here. Americans are guilty only if Putin and russian police are CIA agents

[RussiaPrussia]

Irrelevant
Putin's tribute to Caucasus is big enough (taken from russian regions obviously). Those churkas are fine.
Stories like this http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%84%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BA%D1%82_% D0%B2_%D0%A1%D0%B0%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%B5
usually happens in "russian" regions
Dude, better stop here. Americans are guilty only if Putin and russian police are CIA agents

why is putin guilty for that? They make war there and their culture is backwards. Of course they are behind to other russian regions.

[Dacul]

These are the great benefits of great US life style and culture,a raise of drug consumption etc.
Because those people from Afghanistan are producing drugs,so they can survive,after US&NATO states destroyed their country,with the unhuman intervention there.
The question is,why people want to take drugs?
Because they are unhappy,that is why.
Because Russia adopted a US-life style and culture,that is why.

[glass]

why is putin guilty for that? They make war there and their culture is backwards. Of course they are behind to other russian regions
You havent heard about Sagra? Ppl in streets and public transport were talking about it.
In short, gypsy and azeri mafia tried to establish drug center in small town Sagra. Locals rebeled against it, some minibattle happened there. Azeri mafia leader has been killed and many patricipants got injured. After investigation all those churkas were proclaimed innocent, 6 locals got jail sentences for banditism and "organising fighting"
Isnt it similar to mexican customs?
And how many Sagras across Russia? Not all have balls to strike back especially when police plays by mafia side.
Like i said this event was widely famous and discused. Putin could interfere, could order to jail churkas but he did not. So it is pretty clear that he doesnt care or even support drug dealers :)
After all it was ethnic mafia and russian police who tried to build drug center in Russia not americans

[RussiaPrussia]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbADgtO9-pI