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curupira
04-25-2013, 10:41 PM
From the Villa of the Mysteries:


The Villa of the Mysteries or Villa dei Misteri is a well preserved ruin of a Roman Villa which lies some 400 metres northwest of Pompeii, southern Italy.

Although covered with metres of ash and other volcanic material, the villa sustained only minor damage in the eruption of Vesuvius in 79 AD, and the majority of its walls, ceilings, and most particularly its frescoes survived largely undamaged.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Villa_of_the_Mysteries

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d8/Pompejanischer_Maler_um_80_v._Chr._001.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4f/Pompejanischer_Maler_um_60_v._Chr._001.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/be/Villa_dei_Misteri_VI_-_2.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c5/Villa_dei_Misteri_VIII_-_4.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3a/Villa_dei_Misteri_VII_-_2.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e7/Villa_dei_Misteri_VI_-_1.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/49/Roman_Painting_1.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/05/Villa_dei_Misteri_IV_-_1.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/37/Villa_dei_Misteri_I_-_1.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/99/Villa_dei_Misteri_VII_-_1.jpg

curupira
04-25-2013, 10:44 PM
Roman frescos from Stabiae:


Stabiae was an ancient Roman town, located close to the modern town of Castellammare di Stabia approximately 4.5 km southwest of Pompeii. It was positioned on a 50 m high headland overlooking the Gulf of Naples. Being only 16 kilometres (9.9 mi) from Mount Vesuvius, this seaside resort was largely destroyed by two metres of tephra ash in 79 AD.

Originally a small port, by the 6th century BC Stabiae had already been overshadowed by the much larger port at Pompeii. The town was destroyed by Lucius Cornelius Sulla on 30 April 89 BC during the Social War, a revolt by many of Rome's allies in the area. The Roman author and admiral Pliny the Elder recorded that the town was rebuilt and became a popular resort for wealthy Romans. He reported that there were several miles of luxury villas built along the edge of the headland, all enjoying panoramic views out over the bay.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stabiae

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/30/Iphigenia_in_Villa_San_Marco_Stabiae.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/24/Fresco_of_woman_with_lyre_Villa_San_Marco_in_Stabi ae.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/Fresco_of_woman_with_tray_in_Villa_San_Marco.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2c/Stabia-StMarc-Perseo-5871.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3d/Primavera_di_Stabiae.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1a/Eros_e_Dioniso_1.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/40/Minerva_1.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9c/Fresco_of_angel_in_Villa_San_Marco_of_Stabiae.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/33/Pilade_1.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/Hermes_Stabia_2.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d8/Musa_con_lira.jpg

curupira
04-25-2013, 11:17 PM
* From Pompeii:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6d/Pompeii_-_Casa_degli_Epigrammi_-_MAN.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/af/Vecchio_Satiro_e_Ermafrodito._Pompei_%28IX%2C_1%2C 22%29%2C_Casa_di_Epidio_Sabino%2C_tablino_50-75_d.C._National_Archaeological_Museum%2C_Naples.. jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/41/Satyr_and_maenad_Herculaneum_MAN_Napoli_Inv27699.j pg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a2/Pompeii_-_Erotic_Scene_3_-_MAN.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/da/Napoli-museogabinettosegreto01.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/43/Satiro_e_Ermafrodito._Pompeii._National_Archaeolog ical_Museum%2C_Naples.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a2/Erotic_scene_Pompeii_MAN_Napoli_Inv110569.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/63/Polyphemus_and_Galatea_Pompeii_MAN_Napoli_Inv27687 .jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/58/Mars_and_Venus_Pompeii_MAN_Napoli_Inv9250.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/37/Muses.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7c/Maenad_and_Cupid_MAN_Napoli_Inv110591.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dd/Pompeiii.Europa.iFresco.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7a/Affreschi_romani_-_Enea_e_didone_-_pompei.JPG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/11/Seated_hero_or_god_MAN_Napoli_Inv8895.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/95/Affreschi_romani_-_polifemo_presenza_galatea_-_pompei.JPG

curupira
04-25-2013, 11:18 PM
A few more from Pompeii:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/63/Giovane_con_rotolo.JPG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/42/Coppia_in_volo.JPG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/df/Io_Argos_MAN_Napoli_Inv9556.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fd/Contest_Venus_Hesperus_MAN_Napoli_Inv9449_n02.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/28/Ares_e_Afrodite.JPG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6e/Iphigeneia_sacrificed_MAN_Napoli_Inv9112_n02.jpg

curupira
04-26-2013, 12:30 AM
They are quite beautiful, cool style, IMO. One has to take into account they are about 2000 years old... one cannot find any of these in any part of, f.e, Northern or Eastern Europe from that time, and for a long time after that still.

A few more from Pompeii:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/53/Pompeii_-_Fullonica_of_Veranius_Hypsaeus_1_-_MAN.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/24/Aeneas_wounded_MAN_Napoli_Inv9009.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/83/Medea_children_MAN_Napoli_Inv8977.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b0/Perseus_Andromeda_MAN_Napoli_Inv8998.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/77/Achille_a_Sciro.JPG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9a/Terentia_ou_Terenzia.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/51/Theseus_Minotaur_MAN_Napoli_Inv9043.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b3/Admetus_Alcestis_MAN_Napoli_Inv9026.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b4/Achilles_Briseis_MAN_Napoli_Inv9105_n02.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b6/Ariadne_revenge_MAN_Napoli_Inv9051.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f2/Affresco_romano_-_Pompei_-_eros_e_Psiche.JPG

curupira
04-26-2013, 03:19 PM
A few more from Pompeii...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/56/Phaedra_BM_.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f6/P._Fannius_Synistor_anagoria_links.JPG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/81/Pompeii_-_Casa_del_Bracciale_d%27Oro_-_Theatre_Masks.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9b/Affresco_romano_-_Pompei_-_micon_e_pero.JPG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/Mars_Venus_MAN_Napoli_Inv9249.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/06/WLA_metmuseum_Wall_painting_Polyphemus_and_Galalte a_4.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4b/Winged_genius_Boscoreale_Louvre_P23.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8a/Affresco_romano_giardino_pompei_13.JPG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/Bacchus_and_Silenus_BM_1899.2-15.1_n02.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/da/Pompejanischer_Maler_um_40_v._Chr._001.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e6/Pompeii_-_Casa_del_Bracciale_d%27Oro_-_Theatre_Mask.jpg

Amun
04-26-2013, 03:40 PM
Very beautiful portraits. Thanks for the post :thumb001:

curupira
04-26-2013, 07:09 PM
You are welcome! :)

curupira
05-02-2013, 02:55 PM
From Rome:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e2/Ipogeo_di_via_livenza%2C_diana_cacciatrice.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b2/Fresco_Apollo_kitharoidos_Palatino_Inv379982.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bd/Piramide_C_Cestio_interno_-_una_nike_1050797.JPG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/51/Dea_Barberini_Massimo.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5c/Haarnetz_edited.JPG

From Naples:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/12/Affresco_romano_-_eracle_ed_onfale_-_area_vesuviana.JPG

From Herculaneum:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/af/Affresco_romano_-_Eracle_bambino_-_Ercolano.JPG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c8/Busto_maschile.JPG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7e/Affreschi_romani_-_polifemo_galatea_-_pompei.JPG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a7/Herculaneum_Fresco_001.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ad/Fragment_female_MAN_Napoli_Inv9094.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/88/Affreschi_romani_-_Ercolano_-_Teseo_liberatore.JPG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/12/Herculaneum_-_Augusteum_-_Hercules_and_Telephos_-_Detail_2.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a2/Herculaneum_-_Augusteum_-_Hercules_and_Telephos_-_Detail_1.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/96/Achilleus_Lyra.jpg

Others from Stabiae:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c3/Nereide-su-pantera.JPG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/08/Giovane-seduto.JPG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/Vecchio-seduto.JPG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/93/Venditrice_di_amorini_1.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b7/Medea_1.jpg

Smeagol
09-08-2013, 09:33 PM
Well, these are mostly from south Italy, and Sicily, so they weren't really ethnic Romans, but it's interesting there was a significant number of blondes, and redheads in these frescoes, so maybe south Italy, and Sicily were more Italic in the past.

Smeagol
09-08-2013, 10:00 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/95/Affreschi_romani_-_polifemo_presenza_galatea_-_pompei.JPG

Guy on the right is very Italic looking. Noric.

Ianus
09-08-2013, 10:11 PM
Well, these are mostly from south Italy, and Sicily, so they weren't really ethnic Romans, but it's interesting there was a significant number of blondes, and redheads in these frescoes, so maybe south Italy, and Sicily were more Italic in the past.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/7f514e8a9d617e214be49fde7b404c92/tumblr_mm8hqiFm3P1s266z3o1_500.gif

Smeagol
09-08-2013, 10:14 PM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/7f514e8a9d617e214be49fde7b404c92/tumblr_mm8hqiFm3P1s266z3o1_500.gif

:bored: Although it's not the majority, there are surprising amount of fair haired people for South Italy/Sicily.

Stormer99
09-08-2013, 10:18 PM
:bored: Although it's not the majority, there are surprising amount of fair haired people for South Italy/Sicily.

You are talking very ignorantly. Have you ever seen people from Palermo?

Ianus
09-08-2013, 10:23 PM
Although it's not the majority, there are surprising amount of fair haired people for South Italy/Sicily.

I imagine that you think that South Italian are like Maghrebian or Levantine

Stormer99
09-08-2013, 10:27 PM
Although Maghrebian is not like Levantine as Maghrebians are around 14-22% SSA on average. People from the Maghreb look like Puerto Ricans a lot of the time.

Albion
09-08-2013, 10:30 PM
Heh, clearly they were better than any modern artists. :D Art seems to be devolving to simple cave scribble.

Smeagol
09-08-2013, 10:32 PM
I just think this a significant number of fair haired people from south Italy.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b7/Medea_1.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/93/Venditrice_di_amorini_1.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/Vecchio-seduto.JPG

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/08/Giovane-seduto.JPG

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8a/Affresco_romano_giardino_pompei_13.JPG

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4b/Winged_genius_Boscoreale_Louvre_P23.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/53/Pompeii_-_Fullonica_of_Veranius_Hypsaeus_1_-_MAN.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6e/Iphigeneia_sacrificed_MAN_Napoli_Inv9112_n02.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/95/Affreschi_romani_-_polifemo_presenza_galatea_-_pompei.JPG

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/95/Affreschi_romani_-_polifemo_presenza_galatea_-_pompei.JPG

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7c/Maenad_and_Cupid_MAN_Napoli_Inv110591.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a2/Pompeii_-_Erotic_Scene_3_-_MAN.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a2/Pompeii_-_Erotic_Scene_3_-_MAN.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3d/Primavera_di_Stabiae.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2c/Stabia-StMarc-Perseo-5871.jpg

Smeagol
09-08-2013, 10:32 PM
Although Maghrebian is not like Levantine as Maghrebians are around 14-22% SSA on average. People from the Maghreb look like Puerto Ricans a lot of the time.

It's 12% on average.

hobosmurf
09-08-2013, 10:33 PM
Great pics


Heh, clearly they were better than any modern artists. :D Art seems to be devolving to simple cave scribble.
Exactly

Stormer99
09-08-2013, 10:34 PM
It's 12% on average.

It's 22% in a lot of places in Morocco.
North Moroccans are more like 11% and South Moroccans are more like 33%.

Smeagol
09-08-2013, 10:38 PM
It's 22% in a lot of places in Morocco.
North Moroccans are more like 11% and South Moroccans are more like 33%.

Awesome. Not the thread to discuss north african genetics.

Stormer99
09-08-2013, 10:40 PM
Awesome. Not the thread to discuss north african genetics.

I was not the first one to bring up people from the Maghreb in this thread.

Ianus
09-08-2013, 10:40 PM
I just think this a significant number of fair haired people from south Italy.

I think this is more brown, light brown instead of blond.

Smeagol
09-08-2013, 10:41 PM
I think this is more brown, light brown instead of blond.

Many of them are clearly blonde, dude.

curupira
04-06-2014, 03:36 PM
From Boscoreale:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/68/Harfenspielerin_R%C3%B6misches_Fresko.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f6/P._Fannius_Synistor_anagoria_links.JPG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/da/Pompejanischer_Maler_um_40_v._Chr._001.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7d/Mariemont_Boscoreale_03.jpg

curupira
04-12-2014, 03:30 PM
From Pompeii:

http://blogs.transparent.com/latin/files/2013/09/aphrodite_anadyomene_from_pompeii_cropped.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/06/Pompeii_-_Casa_del_Centenario_-_Love_scene.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9b/Marte_e_afrodite%2C_da_casa_di_meleagro%2C_9256.JP G
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/53/Pompeii_-_Casa_dei_Casti_Amanti_-_Banquet_Detail_1.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e5/Pompeii_-_Casa_del_Ristorante_3.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a5/Pomperos23.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e6/Pompeii_-_Casa_del_Centenario_-_Maenad.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/74/Pompeii_-_Casa_del_Centenario_-_Orest.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/45/Pompeii_-_Casa_del_Centenario_-_Hermaphroditos.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/Pompeii_-_Casa_di_Marte_e_Venere_-_MAN.jpg

wvwvw
04-12-2014, 05:02 PM
http://wwwdelivery.superstock.com/WI/223/1566/PreviewComp/SuperStock_1566-527341.jpg
Greek fresco from painted tomb preserved in museum, Paestum, Campania, Italy

http://www.italianfrescoes.com/sites/italianfrescoes.com/files/Pompei-fresco.jpg
Wall fresco in Pompeii

http://www.italianfrescoes.com/sites/italianfrescoes.com/files/800px-Pompei-villa_dei_misteri01.jpg

http://www.italianfrescoes.com/sites/italianfrescoes.com/files/art409r.jpg

curupira
11-13-2014, 08:01 PM
This is one of my favourites: :naughty2:

http://i59.tinypic.com/34447m9.jpg

aherne
11-15-2014, 07:40 AM
Trying to classify based on these frescoes is futile, since the vast majority were not portaits (they are like figures in Sistine Chapel, pure inventions).

This one appears to be a portrait, but it's in quite a bad state:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9a/Terentia_ou_Terenzia.jpg

It's easy to see how this tradition became the foundation of church paintings, who are of much lower artistic quality nevertheless.

Smeagol
11-15-2014, 05:10 PM
This one appears to be a portrait, but it's in quite a bad state:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9a/Terentia_ou_Terenzia.jpg

It's easy to see how this tradition became the foundation of church paintings, who are of much lower artistic quality nevertheless.

This is supposed to be a portrait of Sappho of Lesbos, but of course it was made hundreds of years after her death..