Which flag do you prefer?

[CrystalMaiden]

This thread is mainly meant for Bosniaks, but I see no harm in others joining the fun :)

The generic Slavic tricolor:

http://slavicbosnia.weebly.com/uploads/4/3/2/2/4322275/1224477.jpg?509



Or flag with national colors of Bosniaks:


https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/32339_4053002567545_1131285202_n.jpg

[Methmatician]

I still don't understand why you think green, white and blue are the national/traditional colours. Where did you get this idea from?

[CrystalMaiden]

I still don't understand why you think green, white and blue are the national/traditional colours. Where did you get this idea from?

You really don't know much about Bosniaks, do you?

But let's wait and see the votes of Bosniaks :)

P.S.: Why did you vote as a Bosniak?

[Methmatician]

You really don't know much about Bosniaks, do you?

I guess not :bored:


P.S.: Why did you vote as a Bosniak?

To spare confusion (Ja sam Bošnjak ali osjećam se kao Jugosloven).

[Hurrem sultana]

The traditional colours

[dralos]

the slavic and back to russia

[Hurrem sultana]

the slavic and back to russia


if you go back to caucasus

[CrystalMaiden]

The traditional colours

Thanks sis :)

Znači nisi skroz pukla :lol:

[kabeiros]

Blue looks better with red than with green, me thinks.

[Hurrem sultana]

Thanks sis :)

Znači nisi skroz pukla :lol:

Vidim nisi ni ti ;)

[CrystalMaiden]

Vidim nisi ni ti ;)

Malo si me juce zabrinula al haj xD

[Cokolino]

I would like something like this;

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_TNtNRJWkh4I/TSjEFckOUKI/AAAAAAAAACw/GVyDjdPBZeA/s1600/zastava117-1.png

[CrystalMaiden]

I would like something like this;

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_TNtNRJWkh4I/TSjEFckOUKI/AAAAAAAAACw/GVyDjdPBZeA/s1600/zastava117-1.png

Meh, you have to chose between these two.

[Cokolino]

Meh, you have to chose between these two.

I did :)

Our neighbors use the pan-slavic colours, we need something original and easily recognizable...
There is one flag similar to the one above that I really love, but I am struggling to find it :p

[Hurrem sultana]

Malo si me juce zabrinula al haj xD

Ma ti si mene posebno ,previse pijes navecer

[Damião de Góis]

From an aesthetical point of view, the first one looks better.

[CrystalMaiden]

I did :)

Our neighbors use the pan-slavic colours, we need something original and easily recognizable...
There is one flag similar to the one above that I really love, but I am struggling to find it :p

:thumb001:

[CrystalMaiden]

Meh, you have to chose between these two.

I don't see how, but everyone has their tastes.

[dado]

none of those čafir flags represents our nation any more

we want back this flag

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/Flag_of_Bosnia_%281875-1877%29.svg

crescent represents our religion
white color represents our race
red color represents our blood that bonds us all

[alfieb]

I voted incorrectly because the poll was confusing. My bad, everyone.

[The Lawspeaker]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/32339_4053002567545_1131285202_n.jpg

This is the historical Bosnian flag ? If so.. this should be the national flag.

[dado]

This is the historical Bosnian flag ? If so.. this should be the national flag.

no...its fictional flag...never existed...historical flag is the one i posted

[The Lawspeaker]

no...its fictional flag...never existed...historical flag is the one i posted
You mean.. the Ottoman occupation flag ?

[Hurrem sultana]

none of those čafir flags represents our nation any more

we want back this flag

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/Flag_of_Bosnia_%281875-1877%29.svg

crescent represents our religion
white color represents our race
red color represents our blood that bonds us all

this was never our flag

[dado]

You mean.. the Ottoman occupation flag ?

no..quite the opposite :)...it is flag which bosnian rebels used from 1875. do 1877

[The Lawspeaker]

this was never our flag
I know enough. Let me guess: he wants the bring Sharia law into the heart of Europe ?

[Hurrem sultana]

it looks like islamic Poland

[dado]

I know enough. Let me guess: he wants the bring Sharia law into the heart of Europe ?

u really think she knows bosnian history better than me :D

[The Lawspeaker]

I think she does. No self-respecting Bosnian would call himself an Ottoman either for what I have noticed with the other Bosnians here. They are proud of what they are.

[dado]

this is another flaf from our history which represent modern bosnian nation much better than those christian flags from medieval bosnia

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ac/Flag_of_Bosnia_%281831-1832%29.svg

[The Lawspeaker]

this is another flaf from our history which represent modern bosnian nation much better than those christian flags from medieval bosnia

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ac/Flag_of_Bosnia_%281831-1832%29.svg
Wrong. Bosnia is historically a Christian area. Islam has only been around since the Ottomans marched in. And thus the other Bosnian flags have more legitimacy since they use the Bosnian crest.. while yours uses the Islamic/Ottoman crescent.

[Vasconcelos]

this is another flaf from our history which represent modern bosnian nation much better than those christian flags from medieval bosnia

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ac/Flag_of_Bosnia_%281831-1832%29.svg

How creative.

[dado]

I think she does. No self-respecting Bosnian would call himself an Ottoman either for what I have noticed with the other Bosnians here. They are proud of what they are.

that's your problem...i just posted in which period it was used so u can check for your self

[dado]

Wrong. Bosnia is historically a Christian area. Islam has only been around since the Ottomans marched in. And thus the other Bosnian flags have more legitimacy since they use the Bosnian crest.. while yours uses the Islamic/Ottoman crescent.

that flag is foreign to my people nowadays...besides its up on us to choose our flag and i dont think we r that stupid to choose christian symbols

[The Lawspeaker]

that's your problem...i just posted in which period it was used so u can check for your self
It represents the country just as much as this flag would represent India:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/be/British_Raj_Red_Ensign.svg/600px-British_Raj_Red_Ensign.svg.png

Or this represents France (Vichy France to be more exact):
http://globetribune.info/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Vichy_Flag.svg_.png

[The Lawspeaker]

that flag is foreign to my people nowadays...besides its up on us to choose our flag and i dont think we r that stupid to choose christian symbols
The other Bosnians here seem to disagree with your occupation flag.

[dado]

It represents the country just as much as this flag would represent India:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/be/British_Raj_Red_Ensign.svg/600px-British_Raj_Red_Ensign.svg.png

Or this represents France (Vichy France to be more exact):
http://globetribune.info/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Vichy_Flag.svg_.png

actually it does represent...i just explained symbolism few posts back...after all it was flag used by bosnian rebels

[The Lawspeaker]

It doesn't represent anything. So how do you envision Bosnia ? As part of an Ottoman Empire ?

[Bosnjakinja]

The other Bosnians here seem to disagree with your occupation flag.

Go to any Bosnian football game and count how many of those green flags you see. They will fit on one hand, if even that.

Then count how many there are of these, you will have to stop counting because there are too many

http://bedrudingusic.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/ljiljani_bosna.jpg

[dado]

The other Bosnians here seem to disagree with your occupation flag.

i dot see many bosnians arround here...the one u call bosnian never saw this flag :picard1:...that pretty much says all about how much bosnian she is

[The Lawspeaker]

Go to any Bosnian football game and count how many of those green flags you see. They will fit on one hand, if even that.

Then count how many there are of these, you will have to stop counting because there are too many

http://bedrudingusic.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/ljiljani_bosna.jpg
Not that is a beautiful flag. Any chance of it becoming the national flag ?

[Bosnjakinja]

Btw: I voted none, for me there is only this flag:

http://bedrudingusic.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/ljiljani_bosna.jpg

[dado]

It doesn't represent anything. So how do you envision Bosnia ? As part of an Ottoman Empire ?

crescent represents our religion...white field our race and red field our blood and sacrifice for this country

[The Lawspeaker]

crescent represents our religion...white field our race and red field our blood and sacrifice for this country
You dodged the question. How do you envision Bosnia ? Independent country, Ottoman Empire or part of the Ummah ?

[Bosnjakinja]

Not that is a beautiful flag. Any chance of it becoming the national flag ?

It was the national flag from 1992 to 1998 but it had to be changed because two of the constitutive people (Serbs and Cros) felt it only represented one side (Bosniaks).

But it still has sentimental value to Bosnians, we consider it our true flag.

[Hurrem sultana]

Go to any Bosnian football game and count how many of those green flags you see. They will fit on one hand, if even that.

Then count how many there are of these, you will have to stop counting because there are too many

http://bedrudingusic.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/ljiljani_bosna.jpg

Hmm,too bad most are loosing this flag too,and accepting the yelow blue

[Bosnjakinja]

Hmm,too bad most are loosing this flag too,and accepting the yelow blue

Well I will never :D

[The Lawspeaker]

It was the national flag from 1992 to 1998 but it had to be changed because two of the constitutive people (Serbs and Cros) felt it only represented one side (Bosniaks).

But it still has sentimental value to Bosnians, we consider it our true flag.
Would it not be possible to make a separation between the Bosnian Serbian and Bosnian Croat and the Bosnian parts ? And to either use this flag as the Bosnian ethnic flag or, in the case of the possibility of the Serbs and Croats joining Serbia and Croatia to make it the new national flag ? It's a direct and painful question after the war but.. I am still asking it.

[Hurrem sultana]

Well I will never :D

10 years ago ljiljani were majority during games,now minority

[dado]

You dodged the question. How do you envision Bosnia ? Independent country, Ottoman Empire or part of the Ummah ?
independent...not entering EU...it is christian club

[The Lawspeaker]

independent...not entering EU...it is christian club
So you just hate Christians ? Are you anti-European fundamentalist ? One of those that should be put in a straight-jacket and locked up in a nuthouse (if you forgive me my bluntness,.. and even if you don't).

[Bosnjakinja]

Would it not be possible to make a separation between the Bosnian Serbian and Bosnian Croat and the Bosnian parts ? And to either use this flag as the Bosnian ethnic flag or, in the case of the possibility of the Serbs and Croats joining Serbia and Croatia to make it the new national flag ? It's a direct and painful question after the war but.. I am still asking it.

Well if that were to happen (Croats and Serbs splitting up) then I don't see why the ljiljani couldn't be the flag of Bosnia. But that whole scenario will tbh for most Bosniaks seem unacceptable, for the reason that many still have houses, memories (mostly bad ones now) in and from the places that would want to separate.

[The Lawspeaker]

Well if that were to happen (Croats and Serbs splitting up) then I don't see why the ljiljani couldn't be the flag of Bosnia. But that whole scenario will tbh for most Bosniaks seem unacceptable, for the reason that many still have houses, memories (mostly bad ones now) in and from the places that would want to separate.
So it could be the flag of the Bosnian part of the country ? What are the exact borders of the provinces and how are they related to ethnic lines ?

[dado]

So you just hate Christians ? Are you anti-European fundamentalist ? One of those that should be put in a straight-jacket and locked up in a nuthouse (if you forgive me my bluntness,.. and even if you don't).

not hate...u are our latent enemy...

[Hurrem sultana]

Even Turkey wants to join EU,and he wants little Bosnia in middle of Europe to go its own way


how realistic :D

[The Lawspeaker]

not hate...u are our latent enemy...
You're the invader around these part. You know the thing with the other Bosnians is: they are European and civilised human beings (despite of their religion). While you should just get a camel and move to Saudi before you make other Europeans think that Bosnians are all Al Qaeda members and you would get people to actually consider Bosnia as dangerous and in need of an invasion (which could happen in these insane and dangerous times).

[dado]

You're the invader around these part. You know the thing with the other Bosnians is: they are European. While you should just get a camel and move to Saudi before you make other Europeans think that Bosnians are all Al Qaeda members.

we invaders :rolleyes:...european hypocrisy knows no boundaries ....shall i start with what small nation as yours invaded through out history....and what about all other european invadors

[Hurrem sultana]

we need turkey in EU or with strong relations with EU,bosniaks can probably not make it withouth them

but thats all

[The Lawspeaker]

we invaders :rolleyes:...european hypocrisy knows no boundaries ....shall i start with what small nation as yours invaded through out history....and what about all other european invadors
Islam is an invader here and if most Muslims are like you then they should not be driven across the Med but straight into it.

[The Lawspeaker]

we need turkey in EU or with strong relations with EU,bosniaks can probably not make it withouth them

but thats all
Trust me, Luna. You don't want to be in the EU. Most people are desperate to get OUT.

[Bosnjakinja]

before you make other Europeans think that Bosnians are all Al Qaeda members.

Well I think that's his purpose on this forum, that's why he always insists on talking about us and we all the time, even in cases where he knows the vast majority of Bosniaks don't share his views. Like saying that we distance ourselves from ljiljani because they're originally a Christian symbol. Everybody, Serb, Croat, Bosniak, who lives in Bosnia knows that that is absolutely ridiculous and that if there is one people in the country who love ljiljani then it''s Bosniaks.

Footballers with our flag:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/527295_10150653711357737_1326657817_n.jpg

[dado]

Islam is an invader here and if most Muslims are like you then they should not be driven across the Med but straight into it.

well it's not like u havent tried many times...finally some honesty from u

[Bosnjakinja]

we need turkey in EU or with strong relations with EU,bosniaks can probably not make it withouth them

but thats all

Turkey will realistically never join the EU. As fucked up as BiH is politically, even we have a way better chance of joining it then them.

[Hurrem sultana]

No one views the ljiljani as christian

[The Lawspeaker]

Well I think that's his purpose on this forum, that's why he always insists on talking about us and we all the time, even in cases where he knows the vast majority of Bosniaks don't share his views. Like saying that we distance ourselves from ljiljani because they're originally a Christian symbol. Everybody, Serb, Croat, Bosniak, who lives in Bosnia knows that that is absolutely ridiculous and that if there is one people in the country who love ljiljani then it''s Bosniaks.

Footballers with our flag:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/527295_10150653711357737_1326657817_n.jpg

And he is failing at his objectives.

[Hurrem sultana]

Turkey will realistically never join the EU. As fucked up as BiH is politically, even we have a way better chance of joining it then them.


Bosnia will probably not join either,i see EU blocking any further memberships after Croatia,for at least 10 years or so

But i was talking about Bosniaks needing a strong Turkey as support,in or outside EU.

[The Lawspeaker]

No one views the ljiljani as christian
I don't see anything Christian about the flag either. No saint, crosses or anything.

[Bosnjakinja]

Bosnia will probably not join either,i see EU blocking any further memberships after Croatia,for at least 10 years or so

But i was talking about Bosniaks needing a strong Turkey as support,in or outside EU.
It will probably join, but what will be the state of EU when BiH joins is another question. Already now it's in shambles.

[dado]

Well I think that's his purpose on this forum, that's why he always insists on talking about us and we all the time, even in cases where he knows the vast majority of Bosniaks don't share his views. Like saying that we distance ourselves from ljiljani because they're originally a Christian symbol. Everybody, Serb, Croat, Bosniak, who lives in Bosnia knows that that is absolutely ridiculous and that if there is one people in the country who love ljiljani then it''s Bosniaks.

Footballers with our flag:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/527295_10150653711357737_1326657817_n.jpg

oh please do explain him...tell him u will how we will renounce everything we r just to enter their crappy union in which we will be treated like intruders

just look how they treat bulgarians who r christians btw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5t54I_KVX80

[Bosnjakinja]

I don't see anything Christian about the flag either. No saint, crosses or anything.

Most people just don't care. For them ljiljani is something authentically Bosnian, something they love.

[Bosnjakinja]

oh please do explain him...tell him u will how we will renounce everything we r just to enter their crappy union in which we will be treated like intruders

just look how they treat bulgarians who r christians btw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5t54I_KVX80

I am not for joining the EU, I am just speaking realistically. Most Bosnians think joining the EU is a magic wand which will bring prosperity in a heartbeat and I dont think thats the case at all.

The chances of BiH joining anytime soon are extremely small, so theres no need to worry about this for a while in either case.

[The Lawspeaker]

@dado. Those people hold Bulgarian passports but they are about as Bulgarian as chapati.

[Hurrem sultana]

I don't see anything Christian about the flag either. No saint, crosses or anything.

To be honest,we associate it with our independence ,war,army ,,its a patriotic thing

[dado]

I don't see anything Christian about the flag either. No saint, crosses or anything.

the fleur-de-lys, as emblem (as opposed to heraldic charge) appears on coins and seals from the 10th c. at least. Typically, it forms the end of a scepter, or decorates the rim of a crown, or is held, over-sized, by the king along with a scepter. So there is, by the 11th-12th c., a strong association with royal sovereignty. In fact, coins of the Emperor Frederic I show him holding such a scepter. Moreover, supposing that it was already called a fleur-de-lys at the time, the lilly flower had strong religious connotations, especially with the Virgin Mary, and later (in the 14th c.) with the Trinity.

[The Lawspeaker]

To be honest,we associate it with our independence ,war,army ,,its a patriotic thing
Exactly. Basically in the same way we used to see the Dutch flag back in the day. It was a symbol of our war for independence.

[The Lawspeaker]

the fleur-de-lys, as emblem (as opposed to heraldic charge) appears on coins and seals from the 10th c. at least. Typically, it forms the end of a scepter, or decorates the rim of a crown, or is held, over-sized, by the king along with a scepter. So there is, by the 11th-12th c., a strong association with royal sovereignty. In fact, coins of the Emperor Frederic I show him holding such a scepter. Moreover, supposing that it was already called a fleur-de-lys at the time, the lilly flower had strong religious connotations, especially with the Virgin Mary, and later (in the 14th c.) with the Trinity.
Many Europeans don't even recognise it as Christian.

[Vasconcelos]

dado if you hate Europe and Europeans, what the heck are you doing here?

[The Lawspeaker]

dado if you hate Europe and Europeans, what the heck are you doing here?
Exactly. He is just trying to make Bosnians look like complete fundamentalist pricks. He is probably some Serb. So how was it like, dado, serving under Ratko in his gangs of marauding thugs ? Or were you with Milošević's rapists and murderers ?

[dado]

I am not for joining the EU, I am just speaking realistically. Most Bosnians think joining the EU is a magic wand which will bring prosperity in a heartbeat and I dont think thats the case at all.

The chances of BiH joining anytime soon are extremely small, so theres no need to worry about this for a while in either case.

well why do u feel need to explain your self and who we r to europeans than....they dont care about our opinion on them why the hell shoul we want to know what they have to say...i mean this is just silly...r we gonna ask them what should be our flag

[dado]

Many Europeans don't even recognise it as Christian.

i dont care about europeans...u should just stop telling us what is the best for us

[Cokolino]

Many Europeans don't even recognise it as Christian.

The golden lilly is actually the national flower of Bosnia, and our most dearest symbol :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilium_bosniacum

[dado]

Exactly. He is just trying to make Bosnians look like complete fundamentalist pricks. He is probably some Serb. So how was it like, dado, serving under Ratko ?

well...bosnians are just like me, and we dont give a shit if u like us or not and how u see us...now u come here and tell us how u will drag us into adriatic sea

[Hurrem sultana]

The golden lilly is actually the national flower of Bosnia, and our most dearest symbol :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilium_bosniacum

exactly it is not related to the christian lilly

[The Lawspeaker]

well...bosnians are just like me, and we dont give a shit if u like us or not and how u see us...now u come here and tell us how u will drag us into adriatic sea
I have met a few Bosnians in my life. Both here and off this forum and they are not like you, Serb.

[Bosnjakinja]

well why do u feel need to explain your self and who we r to europeans than....they dont care about our opinion on them why the hell shoul we want to know what they have to say...i mean this is just silly...r we gonna ask them what should be our flag

Actually, I almost never explain to people about Bosniaks except for threads where you literally lie about how we feel about things. Take this thread for instance: in a thread about Bosnian flags you say that we don't consider ljiljani our flag because it is Christian. I mean, the ljiljani had to be changed in Bosnia because it was too associated with Bosniaks and you say we dont like it and prefer that green one :lol:

So you're the one who is telling lies, I'm just correcting you.

[dado]

I have met a few Bosnians in my life. Both here and off this forum and they are not like you, Serb.

really...some bosnians u met ;)

[Bosnjakinja]

I have met a few Bosnians in my life. Both here and off this forum and they are not like you, Serb.

Dw, when he writes in Bosnian on the forum he admits that Bosniaks don't really share his views. Of course, he says that's because we're all "plavuse" (blondes), meaning stupid compared to him.

[The Lawspeaker]

really...some bosnians u met ;)
Actual Bosnians. Unlike you, Mr. Serb.

[dado]

Actually, I almost never explain to people about Bosniaks except for threads where you literally lie about how we feel about things. Take this thread for instance: in a thread about Bosnian flags you say that we don't consider ljiljani our flag because it is Christian. I mean, the ljiljani had to be changed in Bosnia because it was too associated with Bosniaks and you say we dont like it and prefer that green one :lol:

So you're the one who is telling lies, I'm just correcting you.

our people are ignorant...if somebody actualy explained them that lillis are actualy crosses i am sure they would spit on it

[The Lawspeaker]

Dw, when he writes in Bosnian on the forum he admits that Bosniaks don't really share his views. Of course, he says that's because we're all "plavuse" (blondes), meaning stupid compared to him.
Do Bosnian Serbs also speak Bosnian ? Do they get it in school ?

[dado]

Dw, when he writes in Bosnian on the forum he admits that Bosniaks don't really share his views. Of course, he says that's because we're all "plavuse" (blondes), meaning stupid compared to him.

true...for example i dont think many bosniaks know the truth about lillies

[Bosnjakinja]

our people are ignorant...if somebody actualy explained them that lillis are actualy crosses i am sure they would spit on it

Why don't you try to call it a Christian symbol and spit on it in front of Bosnian supporters for instance, and see what will happen to you?

[Bosnjakinja]

Do Bosnian Serbs also speak Bosnian ? Do they get it in school ?

Bosnian and Serbian is basically the same (Bosnian :D) language. So yes.

[dado]

Why don't you try to call it a Christian symbol and spit on it in front of Bosnian supporters for instance, and see what will happen to you?

do u want me to do it in front of u

[The Lawspeaker]

Bosnian and Serbian is basically the same (Bosnian :D) language. So yes.
Then he could be a Bosnian Serb too.

[Bosnjakinja]

do u want me to do it in front of u

Honestly, it would only be further proof what a lowlive you are, and that you aren't even worth my anger.

Doing the exact same thing the Serbs did in the war: spit on our national symbol.

[Bosnjakinja]

Then he could be a Bosnian Serb too.

It's possible. He has his own thread on this subforum: only Serb songs, Turkish flags and pictures of cetniks (extreme Serbian nationalists) burning Albanian flags are posted there :D

[The Lawspeaker]

I am not surprised.

[dado]

Honestly, it would only be further proof what a lowlive you are, and that you aren't even worth my anger.

Doing the exact same thing the Serbs did in the war: spit on our national symbol.

it is not our symbol...i explained why

[Bosnjakinja]

it is not our symbol...i explained why

It is not your symbol, you are 100% correct about that.

It is ours however :-)

[Cokolino]

Then he could be a Bosnian Serb too.

Of course he could be, or just eager for attention...or a looney.
Just another Apricity troll :P

[dado]

It is not your symbol, you are 100% correct about that.

It is ours however :-)
no it is not...i actually offered argument u on the other hand offer nothing but cat fight

[Cokolino]

http://banjalukain.com/media/pictures/2010/09/07/d634fa937b456761e43b0c01c3677251.jpg

BHF :)

[The Lawspeaker]

I think the Bosnian people have decided on what flag is theirs.. lol

[Bosnjakinja]

no it is not...i actually offered argument u on the other hand offer nothing but cat fight

What are you talking about :lol: The vast majority of Bosniaks consider it their symbol, the international community had to change the flag in 1998 because Serbs and Croats protested against the use of the "Bosniak" ljiljani, and you think you are correct when you say it's not our symbol :lol:

Be honest with yourself for once dado: when you go to Bilino Polje and watch Bosnia play football games: how many green flags do you see compared to the white ljiljani? Honestly?

[ALSh]

Dado is getting even worse :picard2:

[dado]

http://banjalukain.com/media/pictures/2010/09/07/d634fa937b456761e43b0c01c3677251.jpg

BHF :)

these retards will wave with anything including varta flag imposed by EU assholes :laugh2:

[Guapo]

none of those čafir flags represents our nation any more

we want back this flag

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/Flag_of_Bosnia_%281875-1877%29.svg

Indeed.

or Maybe this should be Bosnian flag

http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/422645_4744226482354_1969575950_n.jpg

i think this should be Bosniak flag

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ac/Flag_of_Bosnia_(1831-1832).svg/245px-Flag_of_Bosnia_(1831-1832).svg.png

[dado]

What are you talking about :lol: The vast majority of Bosniaks consider it their symbol, the international community had to change the flag in 1998 because Serbs and Croats protested against the use of the "Bosniak" ljiljani, and you think you are correct when you say it's not our symbol :lol:

Be honest with yourself for once dado: when you go to Bilino Polje and watch Bosnia play football games: how many green flags do you see compared to the white ljiljani? Honestly?
how does that flag symbolizes modern bosniaks :confused:

i see mostly those idiotic EU flag...that tells a lot about our people

[Cokolino]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01ESUDMuDeE

:)

[Bosnjakinja]

these retards will wave with anything including varta flag imposed by EU assholes :laugh2:

Yes...they even prefer the varta flag to your green one, that is indeed quite embarrasing for you :lol:

[Bosnjakinja]

how does that flag symbolizes modern bosniaks :confused:

i see mostly those idiotic EU flag...that tells a lot about our people

Ask every Bosniak, you will get a different answer for each one. I identify with liljani as something authentically Bosnian, most other Bosniaks do to.

[dado]

Yes...they even prefer the varta flag to your green one, that is indeed quite embarrasing for you :lol:
u know what is sad...i dont think they ever saw that flag...i mean after all we r talking here about footbal fans

[dado]

Ask every Bosniak, you will get a different answer for each one. I identify with liljani as something authentically Bosnian, most other Bosniaks do to.

i asked how does that flag represent what we r today...it is misleading ...we r not christian nation period

[Bosnjakinja]

u know what is sad...i dont think they ever saw that flag...i mean after all we r talking here about footbal fans

They did, trust me. The green flag is flying off the main mosque in Sarajevo and I believe in most other Bosnian cities aswell. And yet that's not the flag they choose to bring when they express support for their country. Which is natural.

[Bosnjakinja]

i asked how does that flag represent what we r today...it is misleading ...we r not christian nation period

You are fighting the wrong battle, dado. If most Bosniaks (who are muslims at least nominally) don't mind the "Christian" symbol, why do you? Nobody is imposing the ljiljani on us, on the contrary it has been forcefully taken away and people still hold onto them.

That should tell you something.

[Cokolino]

u know what is sad...i dont think they ever saw that flag...i mean after all we r talking here about footbal fans

But the green flag was used in the rebelion against the Ottomans...how can you, an Ottoman, like the flag used
by those that fought against your masters? so sad... :(

[dado]

They did, trust me. The green flag is flying off the main mosque in Sarajevo and I believe in most other Bosnian cities aswell. And yet that's not the flag they choose to bring when they express support for their country. Which is natural.

that is not the same flag...the ones u see on mosques has white crscent and gradascevic's flag has yelow crescent

[dado]

You are fighting the wrong battle, dado. If most Bosniaks (who are muslims at least nominally) don't mind the "Christian" symbol, why do you? Nobody is imposing the ljiljani on us, on the contrary it has been forcefully taken away and people still hold onto them.

That should tell you something.
most bosniaks dont know it's christian symbol...lets be honest tell people what it actually represent and see reaction

[Vasconcelos]

You managed to put all Bosniak members against you, a supposed Bosniak aswell - by no means an easy feat. Congratulations!

[dado]

But the green flag was used in the rebelion against the Ottomans...how can you, an Ottoman, like the flag used
by those that fought against your masters? so sad... :(

it is not my first choice flag...it is second choice

[dado]

You managed to put all Bosniak members against you, a supposed Bosniak aswell - by no means an easy feat. Congratulations!

is there some kind of rule i should think the same way other bosnians here think...btw...as u can see...we are wery divided...none of us choosed same flag

[Cokolino]

most bosniaks dont know it's christian symbol...lets be honest tell people what it actually represent and see reaction

you do that :)

http://www.bosnjaci.net/foto/Alija_Izetbegovic_BiHArmy.jpg

[Bosnjakinja]

most bosniaks dont know it's christian symbol...lets be honest tell people what it actually represent and see reaction

This is not the stone age ffs dado (except maybe in your village) :lol: People have access to information, in fact Serbs "present" Bosniaks with the Christian origins of the ljiljani every chance they get ("ha ha, you are using a Christian symbol"). I have never, never ever, seen anyone distancing themselves from it, and I would very much like for you to go to Bilino Polje and tell people to distance themselves from the "evil Christian ljiljani" so they could all get a good laugh.

[Hurrem sultana]

Alija Izetbedgovic a practicing muslim,very religious,took back a "christian" symbol...yeah right

if it was christian trust me Alija would never let the flag have a come back

[dado]

you do that :)

http://www.bosnjaci.net/foto/Alija_Izetbegovic_BiHArmy.jpg

alija new about lillies...he just trie to win some catholic and ortodox people for bosnian cause cause he was portrayed as muslim fundamentalist...so its flag of republic bosnia which is multiethnic country...no way flag of bosniak people

[Bosnjakinja]

so its flag of republic bosnia which is multiethnic country...no way flag of bosniak people

And yet, Bosniaks were the ones who wanted to keep it and Serbs and Croats wanted it gone.

Get in touch with reality dado. A caliphate you dream of exists only in your head.

[dado]

This is not the stone age ffs dado (except maybe in your village) :lol: People have access to information, in fact Serbs "present" Bosniaks with the Christian origins of the ljiljani every chance they get ("ha ha, you are using a Christian symbol"). I have never, never ever, seen anyone distancing themselves from it, and I would very much like for you to go to Bilino Polje and tell people to distance themselves from the "evil Christian ljiljani" so they could all get a good laugh.
why wouldnt u do the same...it's not like u would be lying...i think we have to tell people the truth so if somebody after that still wants to wave with it...fine with me...i wont

[Bosnjakinja]

why wouldnt u do the same...it's not like u would be lying...i think we have to tell people the truth so if somebody after that still wants to wave with it...fine with me...i wont

Because I dont care what origin it has, and you do. So it's your job to "inform" our "poor mislead people" about its origins.

I propose you start a campaign, beginning on facebook: the ljiljani are Christian, let's kick it from our stadiums :D

Tell me about your successes and how many wahabbis you collect in your group :D

[dado]

And yet, Bosniaks were the ones who wanted to keep it and Serbs and Croats wanted it gone.

Get in touch with reality dado. A caliphate you dream of exists only in your head.

well true...i am neo-ottoman romantic...that doesnt mean it will stay in my head

as far as serbs and croats...of course they rejected such flag since it doesnt represent them either

[Smaug]

I am not Bosnian but allow me to say that I quite dislike the second flag because vertical strips is more a Romance-related pattern.

[Bosnjakinja]

well true...i am neo-ottoman romantic...that doesnt mean it will stay in my head

as far as serbs and croats...of course they rejected such flag since it doesnt represent them either

No. They didn't reject it because it didnt represent them, the varta flag doesn't represent them either but they haven't demanded for it to be taken away. They rejected because they felt it represented only one people.

I wonder why they dont feel as strongly against the varta flag :)

[dado]

Because I dont care what origin it has, and you do. So it's your job to "inform" our "poor mislead people" about its origins.

I propose you start a campaign, beginning on facebook: the ljiljani are Christian, let's kick it from our stadiums :D

Tell me about your successes and how many wahabbis you collect in your group :D

well i dont think that is my job...i can live with this yellow triangle on blue field

[Hurrem sultana]

guys please close this thread,,lool

[Bosnjakinja]

.i can live with this yellow triangle on blue field

Ok, but didn't you just make fun of Bosnians who use it though?

[The Lawspeaker]

Your wish is my command. :)

[Loki]

I missed this debate, I'd like to hear more opinions on the flag - since we have two new Bosniak members.

[Methmatician]

Current flag is shit. 1995-98 flag was okay but needed some red and blue (preferably in stripes) and the flag with 'traditional' colours is not traditional. It's completely made up using colours to disassociate themselves from their neighbours who use the red-white-blue combination.

[RandoBloom]

I prefer this one :)
http://i.imgur.com/S4VsmHH.png

[Cokolino]

The neighbors use the red blue combo, therefore Bosnia must too? :p
Hell no. This current flag isn`t perfect but at least it stands out, as did
the previous flag. Blue, yellow and white are the royal colors anyway, and
not something anyone made up to disassociate with neighbors.

[Hurrem sultana]

The neighbors use the red blue combo, therefore Bosnia must too? :p
Hell no. This current flag isn`t perfect but at least it stands out, as did
the previous flag. Blue, yellow and white are the royal colors anyway, and
not something anyone made up to disassociate with neighbors.

tako je :)

[Mraz]

None of them, either this :

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/af/Bosnian_Muslim_Flag.svg/640px-Bosnian_Muslim_Flag.svg.png

or this :

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/Bosanska_zastava.png