Where does this beautiful woman fit?

[Sikeliot]

http://www.licatanotizie.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/rosaria-russo-posa.jpg
http://pad.mymovies.it/cinemanews/2011/63085/01.jpg
http://static.blogo.it/cineblog/3-film-in-arrivo-per-rosaria-russo-intervista-con-cineblog/0rosaria_russo_7257_1024.jpg

[Amun]

Greece, Lebanon, Armenia, Turkey and Cyprus.

[Sikeliot]

Her name is Rosaria Russo and she is from Agrigento, Sicily.

[ariel]

she can pass in the levant as well:thumb001:

very beautiful girl btw

[Newsboy]

She could pass as an Aegean Islander, Armenian, Maronite, and Central Italian (Ravenna to Latina).

[Roy]

Middle East

[bellr098]

Middle East

+1

[Peyrol]

Middle East

Lol, why not Gabon?

Only in lebanon and israel.

[Sikeliot]

Which countries do you guys think? ^^

I've always thought she looked Jewish, or close to what Americans think Jews look like.

[morski]

Puerto Rico.

[Sikeliot]

Puerto Rico.

Maybe in their dreams. Puerto Ricans are rarely that European or that pretty.

[morski]

Reminds me of J Lo.:shrug:

[bellr098]

Which countries do you guys think? ^^

I've always thought she looked Jewish, or close to what Americans think Jews look like.

She looks kinda semitic but to me she looks more arab

[Sikeliot]

Reminds me of J Lo.:shrug:

Jennifer Lopez is (visibly) mixed race.

[Amun]

She can fit easily in Lebanon and Israel. I guess most Semitic influence in Sicily came from the Levant. I rarely see any Berberid Sicilian.

[ariel]

She looks kinda semitic but to me she looks more arab

not have such thing as look "semitic",arabs ,levantines and mesopotamians look different to each others.

[Peyrol]

She can fit easily in Lebanon and Israel. I guess most Semitic influence in Sicily came from the Levant. I rarely see any Berberid Sicilian.

Because of the phoenician settlements.

[Sikeliot]

I guess most Semitic influence in Sicily came from the Levant. I rarely see any Berberid Sicilian.

It's not uncommon in my opinion for Sicilians to look Levantine. Also, to a lesser extent, Armenian and Assyrian. However I don't think many Sicilians look Turkish, nor do I really see all that much North African either.

Nicholas Turturro and Vinny on Jersey Shore are two who look "Berberid" to me. But they're not that common.

[Amun]

It's not uncommon in my opinion for Sicilians to look Levantine. Also, to a lesser extent, Armenian and Assyrian. However I don't think many Sicilians look Turkish, nor do I really see all that much North African either.

Nicholas Turturro and Vinny on Jersey Shore are two who look "Berberid" to me. But they're not that common.

I agree, if you guessed a Sicilian as Armenian or Assyrian, it is simply because they commonly overlap with Levantines. Also where i live in Palermo it is not that rare to see a Levantine looking Sicilians since there were early Phoenician settlements there.

[ariel]

I agree, if you guessed a Sicilian as Armenian or Assyrian, it is simply because they commonly overlap with Levantines. Also where i live in Palermo it is not that rare to see a Levantine looking Sicilians since there were early Phoenician settlements there.

most assyrians not overlap with levantines,i can tell the differents most the times...

[Amun]

most assyrians not overlap with levantines,i can tell the differents most the times...

would you give me an example of a typical assyrian.

[Sikeliot]

I agree, if you guessed a Sicilian as Armenian or Assyrian, it is simply because they commonly overlap with Levantines. Also where i live in Palermo it is not that rare to see a Levantine looking Sicilians since there were early Phoenician settlements there.

I think Armenian similarity also comes from the Elymians, an early Anatolian group who also were in western Sicily. Do you think in Palermo, a lot of people look Greek or no? I've been told people tend to look either Norman, Levantine, or an intermediate look that comes out almost Ashkenazi.

I do think Assyrians overlap well with Levantines, unlike what aa100 says.

[ariel]

would you give me an example of a typical assyrian.

http://imageshack.us/a/img706/748/16wed.jpg


http://imageshack.us/a/img819/8180/23121002.jpg


http://imageshack.us/a/img20/6638/20090525pfingstenbalias.jpg

[ariel]

I think Armenian similarity also comes from the Elymians, an early Anatolian group who also were in western Sicily. Do you think in Palermo, a lot of people look Greek or no? I've been told people tend to look either Norman, Levantine, or an intermediate look that comes out almost Ashkenazi.

I do think Assyrians overlap well with Levantines, unlike what aa100 says.

i know how assyrian people look,most of them dosent look levantines to me,they much closer to armenians...

[Sikeliot]

i know how assyrian people look,most of them dosent look levantines to me,they much closer to armenians...

Here are some Assyrians. I think they look similar to Lebanese. If, hypothetically, Assyrians had been the ones who settled in Sicily and not Phoenicians, would modern Sicilians look different? If the admixture was in the same amount I'd say no.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFxW9i4iP2Q

[Amun]

I think Armenian similarity also comes from the Elymians, an early Anatolian group who also were in western Sicily. Do you think in Palermo, a lot of people look Greek or no? I've been told people tend to look either Norman, Levantine, or an intermediate look that comes out almost Ashkenazi.

I do think Assyrians overlap well with Levantines, unlike what aa100 says.

I never saw Ashkenazi looking people in Palermo. However most likely i see Normans and Levantine looking people there. But for the most part Norman looking people are quite common.

[Sikeliot]

I never saw Ashkenazi looking people in Palermo. However most likely i see Normans and Levantine looking people there. But for the most part Norman looking people are quite common.

How about people who look Greek?
The "Ashkenazi" looking people in Palermo would be if someone who looks Norman and someone who looks Levantine mix. Ashkenazis are basically Levantines with Germanic admixture after all.

If you ever go to Trapani I'll be interested to see what you think. They are supposed to be the most Phoenician part of the island.

[Amun]

i know how assyrian people look,most of them dosent look levantines to me,they much closer to armenians...

Actually you are right. assyrians look different from Levantines like you said, but it does not mean that some overlaps could happen. I said that Levantines look like Assyrians based on that some Armenians could overlap with Levantines.

[Sikeliot]

Actually you are right. assyrians look different from Levantines like you said, but it does not mean that some overlaps could happen. I said that Levantines look like Assyrians based on that some Armenians could overlap with Levantines.

I think overall the three are fairly similar.

[ariel]

Here are some Assyrians. I think they look similar to Lebanese. If, hypothetically, Assyrians had been the ones who settled in Sicily and not Phoenicians, would modern Sicilians look different? If the admixture was in the same amount I'd say no.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFxW9i4iP2Q

they have something different in thier phenotype who i can see,its not a same, most of them dosent look levantines,some of them can pass as levantines,most of them not..

[Amun]

How about people who look Greek?
The "Ashkenazi" looking people in Palermo would be if someone who looks Norman and someone who looks Levantine mix. Ashkenazis are basically Levantines with Germanic admixture after all.

If you ever go to Trapani I'll be interested to see what you think. They are supposed to be the most Phoenician part of the island.

To say the truth i talking based on what i saw in Palermo. I'd say not that many Greek looking there. Normans and Levantines are more common look IMO.

[Sikeliot]

Also don't forget that as far as Sicily goes, the Greeks imported Assyrians as warriors to their part of the island, so people in Messina, Catania, Syracuse, and Enna could potentially have some amount of Assyrian ancestry.

but of course, Phoenician would be the strongest Near Eastern input into the population.



To say the truth i talking based on what i saw in Palermo. I'd say not that many Greek looking there. Normans and Levantines are more common look IMO.

That is what I would have thought too.

[Peyrol]

No-one sicilian look like these people.


http://imageshack.us/a/img706/748/16wed.jpg


http://imageshack.us/a/img819/8180/23121002.jpg


http://imageshack.us/a/img20/6638/20090525pfingstenbalias.jpg

[Sikeliot]

No-one sicilian look like these people.

Those Assyrians look more like Kurds if anything. The Assyrians I have seen look like this:

http://www.zindamagazine.com/html/archives/2003/2.10.03/beni2.jpg
http://assyriangossip.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Dadesho-Photo.jpg

[ariel]

No-one sicilian look like these people.

neither levantine...

[Amun]

Actually Assyrians could overlap with Northern Iraqis.

[Sikeliot]

Actually Assyrians could overlap with Northern Iraqis.

That's what they are. Northern Iraq is Arabized Assyrians.

[Peyrol]

Those Assyrians look more like Kurds if anything. The Assyrians I have seen look like this:

http://www.zindamagazine.com/html/archives/2003/2.10.03/beni2.jpg
http://assyriangossip.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Dadesho-Photo.jpg

The first one could be.


neither levantine...

If for ''levantine'' you mean ''israelites of european jew descents'' or ''light maronites'', yes.
If you mean syrians, neghev arabs, etc...hell not.

[Sikeliot]

If for ''levantine'' you mean ''israelites of european jew descents'' or ''light maronites'', yes.
If you mean syrians, neghev arabs, etc...hell not.

One of my neighbors is Syrian and her mother looks like my own great grandmother. I wouldn't have known she was Syrian. Her husband is Italian so I assumed she was too.

But Gaza Palestinians, Jordanians, Bedouins, and inland Syrians definitely look Arabian, not European.

[Amun]

^^ Actually Syrian whether Muslims, Alwaties or Christians are very light skinned in general. Except for Bedouins in the South who came directly from Arabian Gulf and Yemen.

[ariel]

The first one could be.



If for ''levantine'' you mean ''israelites of european jew descents'' or ''light maronites'', yes.
If you mean syrians, neghev arabs, etc...hell not.

by levantines im talkng about the natives of the levant ,they look pretty similar to maronite people...

[Sikeliot]

IMO Armenians look more European than the Assyrians above.

http://archive.168.am/images/2006/03/25-comedy-2.jpg
http://armeniansinasia.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/20090225-armenian-community-raffles-hotel-jubilee-hall.jpg
http://www.lragir.am/upload/img/eng136396960366.JPG
http://www.eifl.net/system/files/201303/with-attendees.jpg

[Linet]

To me she looked either Greek , either Italian

[MarkyMark]

^^ Actually Syrian whether Muslims, Alwaties or Christians are very light skinned in general. Except for Bedouins in the South who came directly from Arabian Gulf and Yemen.

Some people just don't understand this. Whether I say Syrian Muslims are Hellenized Arabs, or whether a lot of Muslims say they are native doesn't change that a lot of them are light skinned. Different looking than christians and Alawites but still light. Thats not to say there aren't some pretty dark Arabs in Syria.

[MarkyMark]

i know how assyrian people look,most of them dosent look levantines to me,they much closer to armenians...

Yeah, but obviously an Assyrian is going to look more like a Levantine than an Arab, which is what some people seem to imagine them as here.

[Portukalos]

It's not uncommon in my opinion for Sicilians to look Levantine. Also, to a lesser extent, Armenian and Assyrian. However I don't think many Sicilians look Turkish, nor do I really see all that much North African either.

Nicholas Turturro and Vinny on Jersey Shore are two who look "Berberid" to me. But they're not that common.

None of two look Berberid at all , especially not Turturro who looks kinda Gypsy. To me Sicilians have overlap most with in that order : Greek Islander -South Italian-Levantine. You see Levantine looking persons in Sicily , and in reverse in Lebanon you see somehow Islander types as well. Definietely a group of Syrians would be too distinctly West Asian to pass even if some individual overlap occur , but it would be in the same extent as with any Mediterranean group overall. The less distinctly West Asian Levantine looking individuals fit the Maghreb perfectly too.

[HispaniaSagrada]

She resembles a mulata actress I've seen. Names escapes me atm.

[Mark]

Pan-Mediterranean.