orangepulp
05-18-2013, 04:28 PM
Finally got her results, now waiting for my grandfathers.
Population Finder:
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/6255/ftdnagm.png
A question I asked to the admin of the Armenian DNA project:
''I was looking at her population finder and it is: Adygei, Druze, Iranian, Jewish
I am surprised by Iranian, Jewish and Druze. So this means her ancestors are from the countries that are listed?''
His reply:
''Regarding the Adygei, Druze, etc. ancestry, you are not the only one to be puzzled by it. Be reassured, you do not have any Adygei, Druze or Iranian ancestry. Until now, there was no Armenian reference group with which to compare the results of people tested. Due to this absence, Armenians are automatically classified in the reference groups closest to Armenians, often in this " Jewish, Druze, Iranian or Adygei" reference group. (There was a study of these populations a few years ago, and the reference group was constituted based on that research.)
This should soon disappear as we have constituted an Armenian reference group and transmitted it to FTDNA. They should soon upload it, and Armenians will hopefully soon stop being classified as "Jewish, Druze, Palestinian or Adygei."
Eurogenes K36
#PopulationPercent
1North_Caucasian23,47%
2East_Med18,47%
3Armenian15,12%
4West_Caucasian13,21%
5Near_Eastern6,30%
6Arabian5,51%
7Italian5,36%
8South_Central_Asian3,09%
9East_Balkan2,91%
10West_Med2,60%
11Iberian2,41%
12Basque1,51%
JTest
#PopulationPercent
1WEST_ASIAN36,65%
2EAST_MED31,48%
3WEST_MED8,63%
4MIDDLE_EASTERN6,89%
5ATLANTIC5,45%
6ASHKENAZI4,01%
7EAST_EURO3,24%
8NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO1,57%
9SIBERIAN1,43%
10SOUTH_ASIAN0,67%
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Armenian @ 8.472
2 TR @ 11.562
3 Kurdish @ 13.884
4 Assyrian @ 14.994
5 GE @ 15.871
6 IR @ 16.009
7 Mandean @ 19.033
8 Lezgin @ 23.670
9 IQ @ 26.756
10 GR @ 26.800
78 iterations.
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Assyrian +50% GE @ 6.897
2 50% Armenian +50% GE @ 7.308
3 50% GE +50% TR @ 7.523
4 50% GE +50% Mandean @ 8.345
5 50% Armenian +50% Armenian @ 8.472
6 50% Armenian +50% TR @ 8.753
7 50% GE +50% GR @ 9.474
8 50% GE +50% Kurdish @ 9.713
9 50% Armenian +50% Kurdish @ 9.875
10 50% Armenian +50% Lezgin @ 10.287
EUTest
#PopulationPercent
1WEST_ASIAN37,24%
2EAST_MED32,52%
3WEST_MED9,13%
4MIDDLE_EASTERN7,62%
5ATLANTIC5,98%
6EAST_EURO3,49%
7NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO1,85%
8SIBERIAN1,46%
9SOUTH_ASIAN0,70%
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Armenian @ 8.284
2 TR @ 10.973
3 Kurdish @ 13.915
4 Assyrian @ 15.112
5 GE @ 15.867
6 IR @ 16.155
7 Mandean @ 19.101
8 Lezgin @ 24.000
9 GR @ 26.565
10 IQ @ 26.748
78 iterations.
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Assyrian +50% GE @ 6.910
2 50% Armenian +50% GE @ 7.122
3 50% GE +50% TR @ 7.410
4 50% GE +50% Mandean @ 8.266
5 50% Armenian +50% Armenian @ 8.284
6 50% Armenian +50% TR @ 8.380
7 50% GE +50% GR @ 9.114
8 50% GE +50% Kurdish @ 9.710
9 50% Armenian +50% Kurdish @ 9.794
10 50% GE +50% South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 10.253
Eurogenes K13
#PopulationPercent
1Caucasus39,90%
2Mediterranean21,80%
3West Central Asian18,23%
4Southwest Asian8,86%
5North European7,67%
6North Eurasian2,08%
7South Asian0,89%
8Pygmy0,48%
9Amerindian0,08%
Dodecad K12b
#PopulationPercent
1Caucasus51,03%
2Gedrosia16,79%
3Atlantic_Med11,59%
4Southwest_Asian11,17%
5North_European6,16%
6Siberian1,99%
7Northwest_African1,28%
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turks @ 6.903
2 Armenian @ 6.970
3 Armenians_15 @ 7.129
4 Turkish @ 7.810
5 Azerbaijan_Jews @ 9.366
6 Georgia_Jews @ 9.397
7 Armenians @ 9.544
8 Assyrian @ 10.033
9 Uzbekistan_Jews @ 10.964
10 Iranian_Jews @ 14.117
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Armenians_15 +50% Turkish @ 2.630
2 50% Armenian +50% Turks @ 2.679
3 50% Armenian +50% Turkish @ 2.863
4 50% Armenians_15 +50% Turks @ 2.994
5 50% Armenians +50% Turks @ 3.509
6 50% Armenians +50% Turkish @ 3.933
7 50% Azerbaijan_Jews +50% Turkish @ 4.158
8 50% Assyrian +50% Turkish @ 4.572
9 50% Azerbaijan_Jews +50% Turks @ 4.676
10 50% Georgia_Jews +50% Turkish @ 4.764
Population Finder:
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/6255/ftdnagm.png
A question I asked to the admin of the Armenian DNA project:
''I was looking at her population finder and it is: Adygei, Druze, Iranian, Jewish
I am surprised by Iranian, Jewish and Druze. So this means her ancestors are from the countries that are listed?''
His reply:
''Regarding the Adygei, Druze, etc. ancestry, you are not the only one to be puzzled by it. Be reassured, you do not have any Adygei, Druze or Iranian ancestry. Until now, there was no Armenian reference group with which to compare the results of people tested. Due to this absence, Armenians are automatically classified in the reference groups closest to Armenians, often in this " Jewish, Druze, Iranian or Adygei" reference group. (There was a study of these populations a few years ago, and the reference group was constituted based on that research.)
This should soon disappear as we have constituted an Armenian reference group and transmitted it to FTDNA. They should soon upload it, and Armenians will hopefully soon stop being classified as "Jewish, Druze, Palestinian or Adygei."
Eurogenes K36
#PopulationPercent
1North_Caucasian23,47%
2East_Med18,47%
3Armenian15,12%
4West_Caucasian13,21%
5Near_Eastern6,30%
6Arabian5,51%
7Italian5,36%
8South_Central_Asian3,09%
9East_Balkan2,91%
10West_Med2,60%
11Iberian2,41%
12Basque1,51%
JTest
#PopulationPercent
1WEST_ASIAN36,65%
2EAST_MED31,48%
3WEST_MED8,63%
4MIDDLE_EASTERN6,89%
5ATLANTIC5,45%
6ASHKENAZI4,01%
7EAST_EURO3,24%
8NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO1,57%
9SIBERIAN1,43%
10SOUTH_ASIAN0,67%
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Armenian @ 8.472
2 TR @ 11.562
3 Kurdish @ 13.884
4 Assyrian @ 14.994
5 GE @ 15.871
6 IR @ 16.009
7 Mandean @ 19.033
8 Lezgin @ 23.670
9 IQ @ 26.756
10 GR @ 26.800
78 iterations.
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Assyrian +50% GE @ 6.897
2 50% Armenian +50% GE @ 7.308
3 50% GE +50% TR @ 7.523
4 50% GE +50% Mandean @ 8.345
5 50% Armenian +50% Armenian @ 8.472
6 50% Armenian +50% TR @ 8.753
7 50% GE +50% GR @ 9.474
8 50% GE +50% Kurdish @ 9.713
9 50% Armenian +50% Kurdish @ 9.875
10 50% Armenian +50% Lezgin @ 10.287
EUTest
#PopulationPercent
1WEST_ASIAN37,24%
2EAST_MED32,52%
3WEST_MED9,13%
4MIDDLE_EASTERN7,62%
5ATLANTIC5,98%
6EAST_EURO3,49%
7NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO1,85%
8SIBERIAN1,46%
9SOUTH_ASIAN0,70%
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Armenian @ 8.284
2 TR @ 10.973
3 Kurdish @ 13.915
4 Assyrian @ 15.112
5 GE @ 15.867
6 IR @ 16.155
7 Mandean @ 19.101
8 Lezgin @ 24.000
9 GR @ 26.565
10 IQ @ 26.748
78 iterations.
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Assyrian +50% GE @ 6.910
2 50% Armenian +50% GE @ 7.122
3 50% GE +50% TR @ 7.410
4 50% GE +50% Mandean @ 8.266
5 50% Armenian +50% Armenian @ 8.284
6 50% Armenian +50% TR @ 8.380
7 50% GE +50% GR @ 9.114
8 50% GE +50% Kurdish @ 9.710
9 50% Armenian +50% Kurdish @ 9.794
10 50% GE +50% South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 10.253
Eurogenes K13
#PopulationPercent
1Caucasus39,90%
2Mediterranean21,80%
3West Central Asian18,23%
4Southwest Asian8,86%
5North European7,67%
6North Eurasian2,08%
7South Asian0,89%
8Pygmy0,48%
9Amerindian0,08%
Dodecad K12b
#PopulationPercent
1Caucasus51,03%
2Gedrosia16,79%
3Atlantic_Med11,59%
4Southwest_Asian11,17%
5North_European6,16%
6Siberian1,99%
7Northwest_African1,28%
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turks @ 6.903
2 Armenian @ 6.970
3 Armenians_15 @ 7.129
4 Turkish @ 7.810
5 Azerbaijan_Jews @ 9.366
6 Georgia_Jews @ 9.397
7 Armenians @ 9.544
8 Assyrian @ 10.033
9 Uzbekistan_Jews @ 10.964
10 Iranian_Jews @ 14.117
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Armenians_15 +50% Turkish @ 2.630
2 50% Armenian +50% Turks @ 2.679
3 50% Armenian +50% Turkish @ 2.863
4 50% Armenians_15 +50% Turks @ 2.994
5 50% Armenians +50% Turks @ 3.509
6 50% Armenians +50% Turkish @ 3.933
7 50% Azerbaijan_Jews +50% Turkish @ 4.158
8 50% Assyrian +50% Turkish @ 4.572
9 50% Azerbaijan_Jews +50% Turks @ 4.676
10 50% Georgia_Jews +50% Turkish @ 4.764