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1stLightHorse
05-26-2013, 08:44 AM
If miscegenation took place on a full scale, and everyone interbred with whoever they wished anywhere in the world.
After 2000 years what would the eventual result be? What would be the Earth race? Would everyone be brown coloured? What would the eyes look like, the body-type? etc etc. If there was one gigantic mix of Caucasian, Mongoloid and Negroid of all sub-types, what would this race look like? Surely there are examples alive today.

Post examples of what you think would be the Earth phenotype.

PS- I'm not endorsing this, but it is surely thought provoking.

Methmatician
05-26-2013, 08:48 AM
What you see today won't change much if 2000 years of miscegenation occurred.

1stLightHorse
05-26-2013, 08:50 AM
What you see today won't change much if 2000 years of miscegenation occurred.

I'm talking 2000 years straight of complete miscegenation. Assuming, at the beginning it was already in full swing, meaning everyone had already intermarried. There are no homogenous populations left.

Not 2000 years if things keep going the way they are today.

Methmatician
05-26-2013, 08:53 AM
I'm talking 2000 years straight of complete miscegenation. Assuming, at the beginning it was already in full swing, meaning everyone had already intermarried. There are no homogenous populations left.

Not 2000 years if things keep going the way they are today.

Yes, that's what I was talking about. Those genes will still be present and will produce the same looking people as today. The only thing that would change is the idea that certain races live in certain places. Instead you'd be able to see every type within your own town.

Methmatician
05-26-2013, 08:53 AM
Races and phenotypes don't 'die'.

Lemon Kush
05-26-2013, 09:01 AM
If miscegenation took place on a full scale, and everyone interbred with whoever they wished anywhere in the world.
After 2000 years what would the eventual result be? What would be the Earth race? Would everyone be brown coloured? What would the eyes look like, the body-type? etc etc. If there was one gigantic mix of Caucasian, Mongoloid and Negroid of all sub-types, what would this race look like? Surely there are examples alive today.

Post examples of what you think would be the Earth phenotype.

PS- I'm not endorsing this, but it is surely thought provoking.

They'll look like some tri racial Caucasoid-Negroid-Mongoloid Mutt. Dark hair and dark eyes will definitely be dominant since it dominates even today, I'm guessing as high as 90%, even more. Pure light people will be almost extinct or completely extinct.

rhiannon
05-26-2013, 09:04 AM
This got pegged as the American phenotype of the future some years ago:
http://race.iheartsociology.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Time_Fall_1993-2.jpeg

Zmey Gorynych
05-26-2013, 09:16 AM
http://sport-xl.net/uploads/posts/2012-12/1354640721_neymar.jpg

I wouldn't swear that he's tri-racial but looks like it. This is how I imagine the human average after heavy mixing: brown skin, eyes and hair, chink eyes, the only thing missing is the frizzly hair. Morphology wise he looks a little too europid so for a more representative look morph him with another sexy brazilian:

http://static.weltsport.net/bilder/spieler/gross/12541.jpg



This got pegged as the American phenotype of the future some years ago:
http://race.iheartsociology.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Time_Fall_1993-2.jpeg
That's certainly very optimistic.

Leon_C
05-26-2013, 10:07 AM
There will not be many people with caucasian features left other than Indians and middle Easterners, miscegnation will occur first in European countries while the majority of Africa and Asia remain fairly homogeneous, in 2000 years if miscengnation continues the average phenotype will be predominantly Mongoloid/ Negroid, the main caucasiod influence would be from South Asia.

Arbërori
05-26-2013, 10:25 AM
Races wont mix as much anymore, since we wont be in much contact after closing our country's borders.

You will have to prove to be 100 % Caucasian and _______________ (insert ethnicity).

Anglojew
05-26-2013, 11:14 AM
Genetic manipulation and selection will mean everyone will opt to make their babies Caucasian looking.

Philo
05-26-2013, 11:21 AM
They will look like South Americans with More Negroid and Mongloid admix(even though South Americans already look somewhat Mongloid because of Amerindian genes, and also Negroid slave genes)

Gospodine
05-26-2013, 11:37 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/50/Dinosauroid.jpg

sevruk
05-26-2013, 11:40 AM
look at brazil

Philo
05-26-2013, 11:55 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/50/Dinosauroid.jpg

Reminds me of the South Park episode in which people from the future, mixed with all the etnicities of the world come back to their past and have a hard time finding jobs:

http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s08e06-goobacks

Neon Knight
05-27-2013, 12:40 AM
Genetic manipulation and selection will mean everyone will opt to make their babies Caucasian looking.Yeah, I think that will happen quite a lot.

Ivan Kramskoï
05-27-2013, 11:10 AM
Those triracial are disgusting, they look like nothing.
Black with blue eyes, it's kinda scary

Comte Arnau
05-27-2013, 12:58 PM
There will be two races. Those who'll have the money to look the way they like, and those who won't.

Methmatician
05-27-2013, 01:02 PM
Damn, everyone is so pessimistic here.

Baluarte
05-27-2013, 01:03 PM
Damn, everyone is so pessimistic here.

Sorry to say this, but unless you're delusional, that's simply the most reasonable think to expect.

Methmatician
05-27-2013, 01:14 PM
Sorry to say this, but unless you're delusional, that's simply the most reasonable think to expect.

The most reasonable thing to expect is more diversity if such a thing happened. If mixing eliminated diversity then (insert ethnicity) would all look the same. However, they don't. And a probable reason for that would be genetic diversity. This 'one race' crap doesn't exist. People will always look different from one another. Eventually we (humans) are going to need more genetic diversity but that's in the (very) far future.

gregorius
05-27-2013, 01:16 PM
We all would look like the rock or vin diesel

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-DWJICq6EoH4/UQlctAHOJZI/AAAAAAAAIPk/oaj-wQaKFBU/s1600/The-Rock-Steroids.jpg

http://wallpapers.fansshare.com/gallery/photos/547048/pictures-furious-vin-diesel-vi-muscles/

Baluarte
05-27-2013, 01:18 PM
The most reasonable thing to expect is more diversity if such a thing happened. If mixing eliminated diversity then (insert ethnicity) would all look the same. However, they don't. And a probable reason for that would be genetic diversity. This 'one race' crap doesn't exist. People will always look different from one another. Eventually we (humans) are going to need more genetic diversity but that's in the (very) far future.

Wrong.

Methmatician
05-27-2013, 01:25 PM
Wrong.

Fabulous rebuttal :clap2:

SkyBurn
05-27-2013, 01:27 PM
It's a known scientific fact that humans will never all look the same. There will be significant phenotypic diversity no matter how much mixing occurs.

Comte Arnau
05-27-2013, 01:29 PM
In fact, cheap genetic industries will only lead to a much higher diversity. Just imagine the number of possible combinations. In fact, belonging to the same race during your whole life will be seen as boring.

mr. logan
05-27-2013, 02:16 PM
Mass would be disappeared in 2000 years by autoesterilization, due to the constant genetic jumps between species, leaving aside the degeneration by behaviour. To project a phenotype with constant interbreeding, it would be a gipsy type.

zack
05-28-2013, 04:49 AM
IMO light skin actually will be pretty common if not the default. As light as whites? no,but a nice tannish pale/yellow tint will be most likely. Light skin is a fairly common mutation and can occur with a just a few generations. Multiple human populations have already went through natural selection for light skin,then dark skin,and then back to light in the past.

Eye color will naturally be as a brown as shit,but as said before genetic manipulation will see light colored eyes be very common.

ChocolateFace
05-28-2013, 04:53 AM
A world in which everybody is a mutt will never exist.

I asked a few professors this and they all agreed with me.

Baluarte
05-28-2013, 06:37 AM
Depending on the angle, everyone is a mutt, some people are mutts or nobody is a mutt.

lamb
05-28-2013, 06:57 AM
In 2,000 years, people will be able to look however they want. Genetic engineering should be the norm. They might take on a practical form for appearance. Hopefully people will be healthy and live much longer lives. Just as long as humans don't exterminate themselves or intellectually devolve before then.

Or maybe..they'll look like this. xD

http://preview.turbosquid.com/Preview/Content_2009_07_19__23_39_26/6725.jpg29df51d0-e43d-42c0-ae01-c4e79c184277Larger.jpg

Stormer99
05-28-2013, 06:59 AM
The different mixes would split into different factions like mulattos with mulattos and eurasians with eurasians. A lot of mixed groups would not want to mix with the other mixes. There would also be judgment based on how each mix looked. The whiter ones and ones with most white ancestry would form their own groups compared to the less white.

Baluarte
05-28-2013, 06:59 AM
Just as long as humans don't exterminate themselves or intellectually devolve before then.


You're a very optimistic man.

Comte Arnau
05-28-2013, 01:06 PM
Or maybe..they'll look like this. xD

http://preview.turbosquid.com/Preview/Content_2009_07_19__23_39_26/6725.jpg29df51d0-e43d-42c0-ae01-c4e79c184277Larger.jpg

:D That body doesn't even make sense from an evolutional point of view.

Wolf
05-28-2013, 08:12 PM
Here you can find a lot of interesting examples of possibilities:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiracial_American


I assume that the number of Afro-Asians will increase rapidly in future.

Bryan Clay:

http://goldmedalgreats.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/bryan-clay1.jpg

African American father, Japanese mother


David Alaba:

http://www.ran.de/de/fussball/international/1210/Bilder/485/c6cc87512b9126db32db5ce8df790c5c231-fuer-oesterreich-nachnominiert-david-alaba_485x364.jpg

Nigerian father, Filipino mother


Jean Ping:

http://www.gadowne.com/gadowne/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/jeanPing.jpg

Chinese father, African (Gabonese) mother

Atlantic Islander
05-28-2013, 08:26 PM
There will be two races. Those who'll have the money to look the way they like, and those who won't.

This.

It's already started. Even now there's a way remove pigment from the eyes. Once the procedure is approved, it'll be costly.

Baluarte
05-28-2013, 09:02 PM
The future will most likely be a mixture of Gattaca and Idiocracy

Moonbird
05-28-2013, 09:39 PM
They will look triracial. Tiger Woods is an example of one, he's of Black, White and Asian orign. In other words the Caucasian traits will disappear from the phenotype.

http://celebsnetworth.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Tiger-Woods-net-worth1.jpg

Han Cholo
05-28-2013, 09:44 PM
They will look triracial. Tiger Woods is an example of one, he's of Black, White and Asian orign. In other words the Caucasian traits will disappear from the phenotype.

http://celebsnetworth.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Tiger-Woods-net-worth1.jpg

This guy just looks black with a bit chinkiness.

1stLightHorse
05-28-2013, 09:55 PM
I've noticed lately that most humans have adopted a diet high in energy but low in nutrients. Meaning people feed off high calorie foods that aren't very nutrient dense. I've always wondered where this will lead to. How it will affect phenotype. If your nutrient intake is not sufficient (micronutrients), then people end up with things like anemia which actually alters their appearance. Generation after generation may be happening.

I see the typical trend is to avoid more primal foods such as meat and vegetables, and opt for high sugar/starch foods with a stimulant added such as caffeine. When i first thought of that, i looked at depictions of Grey aliens who are supposedly relatively short, with greyish skin but large brains. I thought, such a diet prolonged for hundreds of generations may produce these affects. Low protein = low growth, low nutrient = possible skin discoloration/hairlessness, and what people forget is that Soy products are found in everything that's packaged. This is already destroying natural human fertility which is observed in the 1% per year decrease in sperm count. Grey aliens are also depicted as being without any sexual organs.

Maybe these aliens are a subconscious depiction of ourselves, and we're just fulfilling the prophecy of our own subconscious. This is pretty self-destructive, like most aspects of modern human culture.

mr. logan
05-28-2013, 10:06 PM
It will cause overacidification of the system. It will decrease intelligence, boost primary impulses, and as sexual impotence will start appearing earlier, something that is already showing, with unsatisfactory lactic acid discharge by sex act, violence between persons will increase. Masturbation will continue increasing, which will lead to deeper mental, physical and behaviour disfunctions.
Also, acid increase will lead to absolute loss of beauty. Tenser muscles will affect body shape, overtense dark brain will change facial expression.

lamb
05-28-2013, 11:50 PM
I've noticed lately that most humans have adopted a diet high in energy but low in nutrients. Meaning people feed off high calorie foods that aren't very nutrient dense. I've always wondered where this will lead to. How it will affect phenotype. If your nutrient intake is not sufficient (micronutrients), then people end up with things like anemia which actually alters their appearance. Generation after generation may be happening.

I see the typical trend is to avoid more primal foods such as meat and vegetables, and opt for high sugar/starch foods with a stimulant added such as caffeine. When i first thought of that, i looked at depictions of Grey aliens who are supposedly relatively short, with greyish skin but large brains. I thought, such a diet prolonged for hundreds of generations may produce these affects. Low protein = low growth, low nutrient = possible skin discoloration/hairlessness, and what people forget is that Soy products are found in everything that's packaged. This is already destroying natural human fertility which is observed in the 1% per year decrease in sperm count. Grey aliens are also depicted as being without any sexual organs.

Maybe these aliens are a subconscious depiction of ourselves, and we're just fulfilling the prophecy of our own subconscious. This is pretty self-destructive, like most aspects of modern human culture.

The explosion in growth of grain and corn crops to feed livestock has contributed to depletion of the mineral content in soil, so unless this is controlled and the production of meat/dairy decreases, nutritious foods like fruit and vegetables will become an expensive commodity, and in the future they won't contain the same level of nutrients. About 150 years ago, ground soil had over 2X more the amount of minerals as it does today. If the world population continues to grow as it is now, a lot of people will experience starvation and malnutrition in the future. You can already see these effects happening.

Tropico
05-28-2013, 11:57 PM
Me. Well The future white people (if genetic manipulation hasnt caught up) will like like pred Euro with mongoloid and some SSA. There will be no more white people. lol Finally Ill be on top.

Baluarte
05-29-2013, 12:14 AM
Me. Well The future white people (if genetic manipulation hasnt caught up) will like like pred Euro with mongoloid and some SSA. There will be no more white people. lol Finally Ill be on top.

Thanks for making your dream explicit.

Neanderthal
05-29-2013, 12:18 AM
Me. Well The future white people (if genetic manipulation hasnt caught up) will like like pred Euro with mongoloid and some SSA. There will be no more white people. lol Finally Ill be on top.

:rofl:

Tropico
05-29-2013, 12:19 AM
Thanks for making your dream explicit.

Always. All I want to be is white, as the sun is bright and the sun of god.
http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/JesusPortrait.JPG

Neanderthal
05-29-2013, 12:21 AM
Always. All I want to be is white, as the sun is bright and the sun of god.
http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/JesusPortrait.JPG

But you have no beard! :icon_lol:

Tropico
05-29-2013, 12:24 AM
But you have no beard! :icon_lol:

Ill grow one. No one can stop me.

Neanderthal
05-29-2013, 12:26 AM
Ill grow one. No one can stop me.

Your Taino genes can...

Tropico
05-29-2013, 12:27 AM
Your Taino genes can...

But my Spaniard/West Asian/North African genes can kick my Taino genes ass.

Tropico
05-29-2013, 12:32 AM
Jews.

Tropico
05-29-2013, 12:35 AM
Jezuz bless tha juez.

Neanderthal
05-29-2013, 12:39 AM
Bro, seriously, Do you have the AIDS? :(

Tropico
05-29-2013, 12:44 AM
Bro, seriously, Do you have the AIDS? :(

No, I have ADD and a short attention span and a stuttering problem. Real talk.

ABest
05-29-2013, 12:45 AM
Even if everyone decided to marry inter-racially and people kept doing so for the next 100 generations, people with blond hair, blue eyes and extremely pale skin* would still exist and they wouldn't be rare.

*and generally extremely light or normal light varieties of eye and hair color and partial or total skin depigmentation.

You just have to think of the global gene pool and you will notice that even if everyone in it mates inter-racially for many generations, genes coding for blue eyes/blond hair/pale skin would still be expressed in a very large number of the mixed individuals, many times concurrently.

At least that's what I would predict.

Baluarte
05-29-2013, 12:48 AM
The problem is not genes, it's the destruction of ethnic identities.

It'd seem that soon enough, being "French" will be a purely administrative title to refer to your location.

Wolf
05-29-2013, 01:16 PM
It'd seem that soon enough, being "French" will be a purely administrative title to refer to your location.

I thought this was already the case. :confused:

RussiaPrussia
05-29-2013, 08:21 PM
it would be like brazil

Silver_Shadow
06-03-2013, 02:14 AM
Me. Well The future white people (if genetic manipulation hasnt caught up) will like like pred Euro with mongoloid and some SSA. There will be no more white people. lol Finally Ill be on top.

haha thanks for the laugh :thumb001:

Tropico
06-03-2013, 02:20 AM
haha thanks for the laugh :thumb001:

Haha i try. :victory0:

Mikula
09-29-2013, 07:55 PM
This got pegged as the American phenotype of the future some years ago:
http://race.iheartsociology.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Time_Fall_1993-2.jpeg

She looks like Jolana Voldánová - Czech TV News moderator
http://img.ahaonline.cz/img/18/article/1089023_jolana-voldanova.jpg

Prisoner Of Ice
09-29-2013, 11:15 PM
Yes, that's what I was talking about. Those genes will still be present and will produce the same looking people as today. The only thing that would change is the idea that certain races live in certain places. Instead you'd be able to see every type within your own town.

Wow are you delusional. Future world will be half mexican, half chinese. I am swimming in the glory of the future already.

Methmatician
09-29-2013, 11:19 PM
Wow are you delusional. Future world will be half mexican, half chinese. I am swimming in the glory of the future already.

High School biology is not the most accurate science.

AverageKorhonen
02-10-2015, 10:13 AM
... Future world will be half mexican, half chinese ...

This.

gFalcon
02-11-2015, 05:16 PM
I don't think they would look a lot different.

Comte Arnau
02-12-2015, 11:34 PM
I imagine it to be real white.



https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1379651014/image.jpg

Dictator
02-12-2015, 11:39 PM
Genetic manipulation and selection will mean everyone will opt to make their babies Caucasian looking.

Isn't it possible to make a 100% euro baby without DNA from another source as long both parents are 50% euro or more?

Anglojew
02-12-2015, 11:55 PM
Isn't it possible to make a 100% euro baby without DNA from another source as long both parents are 50% euro or more?

Not yet.

Leto
02-12-2015, 11:55 PM
Genetic manipulation and selection will mean everyone will opt to make their babies Caucasian looking.
Perhaps. I support genetic engineering. And it will become available much less than in 2,000 years.

Dictator
02-12-2015, 11:56 PM
Not yet.

Soon...

igo112
02-13-2015, 12:31 AM
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