Bagpipes from all over the world

[Kadu]

Not quite, basically from the Mediterranean basin, North and Baltic sea.
It's in portuguese but you'll be able to identify the places byt its names. It contains sound files.

http://www.gaitadefoles.net/gaitadefoles/mundogaitas.htm


Who knows if it corresponds(my conjecture) to the spread of the Megalithic culture during the copper and early bronze ages...
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o21/Kadu_album/album2/MegalithiccultureII.jpg

[Äike]

The Estonian bagpipe (http://www.users.on.net/~kustas/torupill/)

[Beorn]

English bagpipes (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5470)

[Treffie]

Let's all outdo each other :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34O9j6Xpjlw

[Äike]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0T1Tmo8144

[The Black Prince]

Very interesting hypotheses.

Busy..searching after old Lowlandic/Jutlandic/North-German doedelzak/ dudelsack. :shakefist

[Äike]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsej5uQLEDI

[Bari]

Albanian bagpipe


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Y180lwazVQ&feature=related

[The Black Prince]

Very interesting hypotheses.

Busy..searching after old Lowlandic/Jutlandic/North-German doedelzak/ dudelsack. :shakefist

Doering, L. (1936). Schnick, schnack, Dudelsack : Reime für lustige Leserlein mit Bildern. Scholz` Bilderlesebücher Nr. 393.
Mainz.

Schnick, schnack, Dudelsack,
Unser Kind will tanzen,
Schnick, schnack, Dudelsack,
Unser Kind will tanzen,
Spielt mir einen schönen Tanz,
Aennchen, Gretchen, Fritz und Franz,
Schnick, schnack. Dudelsack,
Wollen lustig tanzen.

[Tabiti]

100 Kaba Gaidi
Ft9qUcu1mvU

[Barreldriver]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikGp9Cxb6AM

[Comte Arnau]

The Catalan bagpipe is called sac de gemecs (moaning sack).


fwgea85D6pc

[mymy]

From Serbia:
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[Rouxinol]

Traditional bagpipe music and dance of northeastern Portugal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoQuYePHF0c

[The Journeyman]

Awsome thread!

Austrian bagpipe diddly.

gWvmzUEf8fM

[Peyrol]

The typical/traditional bagpipe of the higher valleys of Bergamo province, called "baghèt"
http://www.baghet.it/baghet-manot.jpg

My grandfather had one of these

[lI]

Lithuanian dūdmaišis


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkU6aeBTJLo

Here's a better recording:
http://youtu.be/4jfqZGyjnoM?t=40s




Latvian dūdas:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjvdXVPV1xY

[inactive_member]

The Belarusian Bagpipe - Duda : http://www.staryolsa.com/mp3/2-11.mp3


http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/3659/originalfz.jpg

[lI]

There's one bagpipe song with lyrics mentioning Belarusians (Gudas) in Lithuania, it goes: "...I will ask Belarusian John to make a wound to the bagpipe..." which is a reference to Belarusian folk music being more expressive and energetic than Lithuanian is. Well, this song is kind of energetic too - I wonder if Belarusians have the same tune?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOzc8OmEmwg



There were Belarusian guests in Lithuanian festival GRIEŽYNĖ, we can compare how their style differs from that of the locals:

Belarusians

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvLC-9FXZfk

Lithuanians

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDW6dQWbZvQ




BTW here's a bagpipe tune from Dzūkija - Lithuania's region bordering Belarus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzswhaQvw8c


And one from Suvalkija - Lithuania's region which used to border East Prussia but not Belarus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD0vJx_clss

[inactive_member]

There's one bagpipe song with lyrics mentioning Belarusians (Gudas) in Lithuania, it goes: "...I will ask Belarusian John to make a wound to the bagpipe..." which is a reference to Belarusian folk music being more expressive and energetic than Lithuanian is. Well, this song is kind of energetic too - I wonder if Belarusians have the same tune?


Duda was an important musical instrument in Belarusian culture in the past. For some unknown reason lesser popular musical instruments were chosen as national Belarusian musical instruments in the 30s. Duda was forgotten during Soviet era. It’s back now! Duda fests are held annually.

Each bagpipe performer has his or her own style. Some play melodic tunes, other energetic or more rhythmic.


For a comparison, Dzianis Suchi is a known piper in Belarus playing at Duda Fest 2008



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2cvv9z0I-s




This particular tune is more rhythmic. There are other bagpipe performers on the video playing some interesting tunes. There are also performers from Estonia and Latvia towards the end of the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doaaDeef580&t=3m15s



Belarusian ensemble ESSA is playing a Lithuanian song. It doesn't sound energetic. :)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwSbmlVSqPs



After listening to 4 Lithuanian tunes I have to say Belarusians tune sound more expressive to me.

[Dombra]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-L_PuzR67U

[Dombra]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60TGmJ4DFOo

[lI]

Duda was an important musical instrument in Belarusian culture in the past. For some unknown reason lesser popular musical instruments were chosen as national Belarusian musical instruments in the 30s. Duda was forgotten during Soviet era.The reason seems pretty obvious, doesn't it? Soviets wouldn't have liked these to look too similar, would they?
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/91/1989_CPA_6115.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5c/1990_CPA_6250.jpg

Actually, I was pleasantly surprised to see at least the Lithuania's post stamp the way it is - in spite of Soviet's habit to distort history, folklore - everything they could lay their hands upon, really - in spite of that the Lithuanian representation just looked perfect, they didn't screw it up it at all - I mean, they didn't spam it with crappy accordions, drums or bandoneons...



Each bagpipe performer has his or her own style. Some play melodic tunes, other energetic or more rhythmic. My question was about that specific tune rather than some general style. I was wondering about it because it's very popular in Lithuania but it's more energetic than average and there's this reference in the lyrics, so I was curious if maybe it could have been borrowed from Belarusians? So far, having listened to all those videos I haven't heard Belarusians playing it though.



This particular tune is more rhythmic. There are other bagpipe performers on the video playing some interesting tunes. There are also performers from Estonia and Latvia towards the end of the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doaaDeef580&t=3m15sAnd a Lithuanian too! Incidentally, the Lithuanian part seems gloomier than Estonian.




Belarusian ensemble ESSA is playing a Lithuanian song. It doesn't sound energetic. :)Compared to the authentic Lithuanian version of that song, the hell it does - more expressive, dramatic, melodic as opposed to rhythmic, monotonous! :D
http://youtu.be/jAPLx1liWVo?t=6m54s

[inactive_member]

in spite of Soviet's habit to distort history, folklore - everything they could lay their hands upon, really - in spite of that the Lithuanian representation just looked perfect, they didn't screw it up it at all - I mean, they didn't spam it with crappy accordions, drums or bandoneons...

I read somewhere Belarus wasn't the only republic that didn't get to keep all their traditional musical instruments. I can't comment any further as I don't remember the details. So, Lithuanians have been more fortunate keeping their instruments.



My question was about that specific tune rather than some general style. I was wondering about it because it's very popular in Lithuania but it's more energetic than average and there's this reference in the lyrics, so I was curious if maybe it could have borrowed from Belarusians? So far, having listened to all those videos I haven't heard Belarusians playing it though.

Sorry, linkus. I was multitasking. ;) I don’t know if there was or there wasn’t a similar tune in Belarus. Duda was popular in Vilenskaja and Vitebskaya gubernia and North-western Belarus. So, maybe ... If I come across a tune similar to the one you posted earlier I will post it here. :)

[Mikula]

In the Czech republic are bagpipes tied mostly from southern Bohemia, especially with the town of Strakonice.
Czech kind of bagpipes are not blow from mouth but the bag is pushed by the arm:
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In Strakonice taken place a International Bagpipe Festival, every year
http://www.dudackyfestival.cz/index.php?page=home&hl=english

[Duke]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVuLcUBi_CI


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR7DAFngRGs

[Mikula]

From Czech movie Strakonický dudák (Bagpiper of Strakonice)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjQeOUXDgQU

[inactive_member]

The reason seems pretty obvious, doesn't it? Soviets wouldn't have liked these to look too similar, would they?
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/91/1989_CPA_6115.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5c/1990_CPA_6250.jpg

I found a good picture of traditional Belarusian musical instruments. I felt like posting it.;) There are other musical instruments too.


http://s23.postimg.org/71bqzpyi3/6fc8_W6_SGTpw.jpg

[lI]

I found a good picture of traditional Belarusian musical instruments. I felt like posting it.;) There are other musical instruments too.


http://s23.postimg.org/71bqzpyi3/6fc8_W6_SGTpw.jpg

Are you sure that all of those are traditional Belarusian musical instruments? Two drums in the lower left corner and two weirdly shaped bubbles towards the upper left corner don't strike me as traditional looking.
However, if all of them really are genuine BY folk instruments, it's interesting that your pan flutes are tied together for solo performing like those of Latvians (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?43578-Baltic-Folksongs&p=1383218&viewfull=1#post1383218) rather than loose and meant for communal polyphony like the Lithuanian ones (when playing them, there has to be a group of at the very least 3-4 people and each holds one or two pan flutes skudutis - http://youtu.be/wyBgXqVgOdw?t=52m24s ).
Could you find some recording to show what the Belarusian pan flutes sound like? And what are they called?

Also, I found this scheme of the distribution of Baltic psalteries:
http://kankles.mch.mii.lt/graphics%5Ca94_12.gif

<tbody>
<nobr>1 -</nobr>
of the 1th type of psalteries
http://kankles.mch.mii.lt/graphics/a94_13i1.gif


<nobr>2 -</nobr>
of the 2nd type of psalteries
http://kankles.mch.mii.lt/graphics/a94_13i2.gif


<nobr>3 -</nobr>
of the 3rd type of psalteries
http://kankles.mch.mii.lt/graphics/a94_13i3.gif


<nobr>4 -</nobr>
the limit of Narva culture
(E - Eastern, N - Nothern, W - Western variants)


<nobr>5 -</nobr>
the limit of Nemunas culture.

</tbody>

It would imply that originally only the 1st type of psalteries was known in Belarus and only in the far North-Western fringe.
Is there some reliable material for reading up on the Belarusian psaltery? This documentary (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqB3_9oVS7w) contained some utterly bizarre stuff like claims that it came there from Scandinavia in the 12th century, so I don't think it can be trusted.

[inactive_member]

Are you sure that all of those are traditional Belarusian musical instruments? Two drums in the lower left corner and two weirdly shaped bubbles towards the upper left corner don't strike me as traditional looking.

I am not sure if all instruments on the picture are traditional Belarusian. I found the picture in an advertisement (http://vk.com/event51734170) made by a musician playing psaltery and the Belarusian duda. :) The maintainer of the group who posted the picture was implying the musical instruments are 'ours'. The drum (бубен) is one of the Belarusian traditional instruments which can be found in museums. One of the 'weird shaped bubble' at the top looks like Ocarina (https://www.google.com/search?q=%D1%84%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%B9%D1%82%D0%B0+%D0% BF%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B0+site:by&client=ubuntu&hs=J17&channel=fs&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=6LJCUs3yO6mwiQfxqYCoBQ&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1915&bih=909&dpr=1#channel=fs&q=%D0%9E%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0+&tbm=isch) which was also played in Belarus according to the ''Unusual enclypedia of belarusian traditiional instruments' (http://knihi.by/knihi/maliseuski-jaras-spryncan-aksana-niezvycajnaja-encyklapiedyja-bielaruskich-narodnych-instrumientau). Ocarina instrument comes in different shapes. I found another picture showing a bubble shaped instrument (http://cs408426.vk.me/v408426555/4807/aeB4SdpC_yA.jpg) among Belarusian traditional instruments. I can't recognise the unusual looking green colour instrument on the left of the 1st picture.


The picture of Ocarnia from personal collection of a guy who wrote the encyclopedia.


http://s21.postimg.org/w43p2nw13/malish_06.jpg (http://postimage.org/)



However, if all of them really are genuine BY folk instruments, it's interesting that your pan flutes are tied together for solo performing like those of Latvians (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?43578-Baltic-Folksongs&p=1383218&viewfull=1#post1383218) rather than loose and meant for communal polyphony like the Lithuanian ones (when playing them, there has to be a group of at the very least 3-4 people and each holds one or two pan flutes skudutis - http://youtu.be/wyBgXqVgOdw?t=52m24s ).
Could you find some recording to show what the Belarusian pan flutes sound like? And what are they called?


I searched on pan flutes in traditional Belarusian folkore music and I couldn't find very much. There are some pictures displaying it as a Belarusian traditional instrument. I saw the instrument in the collection among other Belarusian instruments by the guy who wrote the aforementioned book on the Belarusian traditional musical instruments in which he didn't include the pan flute. I am assuming pan flute is more common in eastern and south-eastern Belarus. The instrument is more common in the neighbouring countries: Russia, Lithuania and Latvia. The Russian name of the instrument is Кугилы, Кувилы, флейта пана. Кугилы being the most common.

It'd be played in solo.






Also, I found this scheme of the distribution of Baltic psalteries:

It would imply that originally only the 1st type of psalteries was known in Belarus and only in the far North-Western fringe.
Is there some reliable material for reading up on the Belarusian psaltery? This documentary (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqB3_9oVS7w) contained some utterly bizarre stuff like claims that it came there from Scandinavia in the 12th century, so I don't think it can be trusted.



There is more information on Belarusian psalteries than on the pan flute. :) The website ( http://www.gusli.by/rus/belarusan.html) states 7 different types of psalteries found in Belarus all in Vitebskaya Gubernia (present Viciebsk and part of Mahiliou region in Belarus) in the 19th begenning 20th century. Two pictures and references are provided. The psalteries are held in a St Petersburg museum now. Two psalteries listed on the website were also used in Latgale and Pskov region. Also, Stary Olsa list their musical instruments on their website. As per the information on the website (http://www.staryolsa.com/eng/instruments.html), one psaltery was mentioned in literary work of the 12th century. Another psaltery is made for the band in Latgale by a Latvian maker. One more psaltery the band is playing is a copy of that found in Viciebsk region. See images of psalteries on Stary Olsa's website.


Several pictures of traditional musical instruments in a museum : http://zhlobin-museum.com/master-iz-belarusi-delaet-dudy-dazhe-dlya-oksforda/

[Atlantic Islander]

https://vimeo.com/72880345

[lI]

The drum (бубен) is one of the Belarusian traditional instruments which can be found in museums. BTW I didn't mean to say that drum as such cannot be traditional, it's simply that when traditional Lithuanian folk drums look like this (http://www.lnm.lt/fotos/parodos/2010_instrumentai/03.jpg) and traditional Latvian folk drums look like that (http://folklora.lv/muzikas/bungas/bungas1.jpg), the shape of the one that was included in the photo we're discussing seemed odd.
But hey-ho maybe Belarusians really are special in this regard - just like Lithuanians with their pan flutes :D
The drums in Stary Olsa's website look more normal though.


One of the 'weird shaped bubble' at the top looks like Ocarina (https://www.google.com/search?q=%D1%84%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%B9%D1%82%D0%B0+%D0% BF%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B0+site:by&client=ubuntu&hs=J17&channel=fs&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=6LJCUs3yO6mwiQfxqYCoBQ&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1915&bih=909&dpr=1#channel=fs&q=%D0%9E%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0+&tbm=isch) which was also played in Belarus according to the ''Unusual enclypedia of belarusian traditiional instruments'. Ocarina instrument comes in different shapes.Very varied shapes indeed. Some seem alien while others resemble Lithuanian molinukai (https://www.google.lt/search?q=molinukai) which are used for imitating the voices of birds, their sound can be heard in the beginning of this video - http://youtu.be/btrqzFka0oo

Are ocarinas used for imitating bird voices too?


I can't recognise the unusual looking green colour instrument on the left of the 1st picture. Going by Stary Olsa's website, I guess it must be some sort of a Goblet drum (darabuk).

[inactive_member]

BTW I didn't mean to say that drum as such cannot be traditional, it's simply that when traditional Lithuanian folk drums look like this (http://www.lnm.lt/fotos/parodos/2010_instrumentai/03.jpg) and traditional Latvian folk drums look like that (http://folklora.lv/muzikas/bungas/bungas1.jpg), the shape of the one that was included in the photo we're discussing seemed odd.
But hey-ho maybe Belarusians really are special in this regard - just like Lithuanians with their pan flutes :D
The drums in Stary Olsa's website look more normal though.

The weird shaped drum (бубен) is not called a drum in English. ;) It's called tambourine. There is a drum like Lithuanians, Latvians and Stary Olsa have in Belarusian traditional instruments, and there is tambourine. Drum - baraban; tambourine - buben. There is also a tambourine with small bells around the edge.

Some musical instruments were popular in some ethnographic regions, while other instruments - in other regions. I found a museum of traditional musical instruments of northern Belarus. Unfortunately, the museum doesn't provide pictures or descriptions of their items on their website.


Are ocarinas used for imitating bird voices too?

I think so.

[Blackout]

Cheers! ;)

[Equilibrium]

In Turkey the bagpipe is called Tulum and used in the north-eastern Black Sea region (highlands ;)).


The tulum (guda (გუდა) in Laz) is a musical instrument, a form of bagpipe from Turkey. It is droneless with two parallel chanters, and is usually played by the Laz and Hamsheni peoples and by Pontic Greeks (particularly Chaldians). It is a prominent instrument in the music of Pazar, Hemşin, Çamlıhemşin, Ardeşen, Fındıklı, Arhavi, Hopa, some other districts of Artvin and in the villages of the Tatos range (the watershed between the provinces of Rize and Trabzon) of İspir. It is the characteristic instrument of the transhumant population of the north-eastern provinces of Anatolia and, like the kemençe in its area, the tulum imposes its style on all the dance and entertainment music of those for whom it is "our music". Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulum_(bagpipe))

Here is an example of the Tulum in action, don't be frightened by it's mountain-niggerness: :cool:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiAV8MQYaSg

[Atlantic Islander]

https://vimeo.com/74751808

[Scholarios]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YSErn6g1sA

[inactive_member]

Belarusian Bagpipe ( Duda ) - http://soundcloud.com/rugevit12/duda-intro-pan



http://s2.postimg.org/si7konxs9/duda_vitebsk_20120109_01.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

[Rudel]

http://nevsepic.com.ua/uploads/posts/2011-03/1300125132_1735-hyacinthe-rigaud-portrait-de-gaspard-de-gueidan-en-cladon-huile-sur-toile-1465x1137-cm-aix-em-provence-muse-granet.jpg


There are bagpipes from Ireland to India, and interestingly enough Ireland and Scotland are among the countries with the less types available. As far as I know, France has by far the most types (gravitating around something like 20-25+), although there are redundancies between borders.

Anyway, showcasing some of them :


http://youtu.be/tVK_h8e6ivE

[Graham]

There are bagpipes as far as, India & Pakistan, but that is because we exported it there, during the British Empire.

Interesting thread. :)

[Graham]

Palestinians, Another ex-Colony.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTQd174-O6c

[Sizzo]

Baghèt from Eastern Lombardy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bagh%C3%A8t.

http://i41.tinypic.com/2e3c03p.jpg

[Rudel]

There are bagpipes as far as, India & Pakistan, but that is because we exported it there, during the British Empire.

Interesting thread. :)

I'm not referring to the army bagpipes you tossed to the locals. Iran has indigenous bagpipes and I'm pretty sure they went further down towards the Indus.


http://youtu.be/LZcVBg-15nk

And here, have some good old fat bodega from the Black Mountain :


http://youtu.be/s6K8qalzgI8

And the chabrette that I heard as a kid :


http://youtu.be/2_uSCjRp7Ws

[Graham]

You could say it spreads well like the Indo-European language did Rudel.

Portrait of William Cumming, Piper to the Laird of Grant, 1714 .
http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/arts/yourpaintings/images/paintings/nmus/large/edii_nmus_h_od_69_large.jpghttp://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/08/14/article-2392729-1B4ABEC5000005DC-214_625x417.jpg

[Caismeachd]

I wonder why bagpipes became a national icon of Scotland when other countries more or less just see them as whimsical renaissance instruments.

[Crn Volk]

From Macedonia;

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSgF-ixK24aUf7NvpsFsQyb8jFINNKJfYIOm0h9hD_bp3FSayRHPg

http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/pp17/greenbeanyan/FRONT-10.jpg

[marioneira]

Cuban Bagpipe or (Gaita) originaly imported from Spain
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[Leo Iscariot]

Cuban Bagpipe or (Gaita) originaly imported from Spain
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The gaita is Galician. We can't really take credit for it.

[Neon Knight]

http://newkidonthehallway.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/04/29/boyhandsoverears.jpg

[StormBringer]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSA4OEbYCic

[Linebacker]

Bulgarian Bagpipers
https://zuramode.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/bulgarian-bagpipe-players-rose-festival-kazanlak.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/a2/2e/37/a22e372d4f93cf43e89f8cdc3b40ba14.jpg
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/2GN-KFgvLMM/hqdefault.jpg

[Dombra]

More from Sweden


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twFwWrVCPTo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDp0ZZ_QQcI

[Dombra]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=welaMSZs_jg

From Mari El

[Graham]

From Mari El

Evil son of the Vuvuzela and Bagpipe.

[Taiga Lake]

edit.

[Dombra]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFx-gJQvu6c

Finland