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Fortis in Arduis
09-16-2009, 09:44 AM
The one thing that links both the idiot sections of the Far Right and the idiots of the Far Left is their hatred of Israel and their misunderstanding of Zionism.

This is because both these sets of people are as dumb as a sack of frogs.

We are for Jewish Nationalism (nationalist Zionism, Jewish nationalism) - and against all other forms of Zionism.

Neither can see that the problem is that the Zionist Establishment in Israel are arrogant, racist Marxist pigs who treat Christians, nationalist Jews and Sephardic Jews as badly as they do their own Arab citizens.

The filth in the UK, of all races and religions, who serve the interests of the Establishment Zionists in Israel are simply traitors and must either be deported, jailed or executed if they have aided these wicked Israeli Bolsheviks in such a way as to damage the national security interests of the UK.

Israel is a nation - and as nationalists we support the right of national self determination for all nations.

Attacking Israel as the trades unions Unison and Unite have just done is wicked and anti-Semitic not only because Israel is the only Jewish state but is wicked also because Israel is a home for people of many religions and peoples, including both Christian Jews and Arabs who wish to live in the land of Christos, people who would find themselves under even greater persecution should the Jewish state ever fall.

The Israeli Bolshevik establishment are anti-Semites as they despise their own religious Jewish heritage and people just as they despise their Arab-Israeli Christian and Muslim citizens, and also anti-gentilist as they also despise all gentiles - except the treasonous fools like David Cameron and Gordon Brown who serve their Bolshevik Establishment Zionist masters as faithfully as lapdogs.

Anti-Israelism is therefore the product of warped minds and warped politics.

Anti-Semitism is how the Establishment Zionists maintain their power, by peddling the myth of anti-Semitism in the corporate media outside Israel whilst embracing it as a very real political methodology within Israel.

Israel is not the problem - the problem are the Establishment Zionist scum in the UK and US who serve the interests of the wicked Israeli Bolshevik Establishment whilst pretending to be British and American, or even good Jews.

Once upon a time we called these people TRAITORS.

The Bolshevik Establishment in Israel that runs the Israeli government and Israeli Military Industrial Block are the only nazis in power on the face of the planet - and the sooner they are removed from power then an Israel based on morality rather than material might can be built upon the remains of the Bolshevik state.

http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/unison-and-unite-back-israel-boycott

Britain’s biggest trade union Unite, has confirmed it will be backing a boycott of Israeli goods proposed by the Fire Brigades Union, along with public sector trade union, Unison.

Unison and Unite’s support will now make the FBU’s chance of successfully getting the TUC to agree to the motion far greater.

Motion 76, tabled by the firefighters, called for the TUC to review its links with Histadrut, its Israeli trade union counterpart.

It also called for a ban on the importation of all goods from “illegal settlements”, the ending of all arms trading with Israel, a boycott of Israeli goods and divestment from companies “associated with the occupation”.

The motion will be debated at the TUC tomorrow in Liverpool.

The GMB, which proposed a compromise amendment condemning Hamas as well as Israel took the unusual step of issuing a statement condemning the actions of fellow trade unions.

Paul Kenny, general secretary of GMB said: “GMB is not a gesture trade union and we do not believe in carrying motions that we do not intend to put into effect. GMB does not believe that the position set out in Motion 76 is the correct position.

“GMB has no mandate for it and we believe it would cut off lines of communication with the Israeli trade unions. We will be moving our amendment of the floor tomorrow and we hope we will persuade the Congress to adopt what we consider is the correct position on this motion.”

GMB will support continuing links with Histadrut.

The FBU cited Histadrut’s support for the recent conflict Gaza as the reason for its proposed review of the two trade unions’ relations.

When the amendment was first proposed, a spokesman for the FBU said: “The Fire Brigades Union is proud of our history of opposition to racism. Our motions to the TUC are in that tradition of international concern.

“We are aware that there are progressive elements in Israeli society who strive for peaceful coexistence with the Palestinians and the establishment of a sovereign Palestinian state. Our TUC motions aim to strengthen that movement towards peace."

Link (http://leejohnbarnes.blogspot.com/2009/09/its-zionism-not-israel-stupid.html)

I could not have said it better myself. ;)

Creeping Death
09-16-2009, 10:13 AM
I could not have said it better myself. ;)

I think Israel should be bulldozed into the Sea, the real Jews died out 2000 years ago, when the Romans evicted them from Israel. The current crop are converts from many backgrounds.

I know thy tribulation and thy poverty, but thou art rich: and thou art blasphemed by them that say they are Jews and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

The Apocalypse Of Saint John 2:9-10

Fortis in Arduis
09-16-2009, 10:18 AM
I think Israel should be bulldozed into the Sea, the real Jews died out 2000 years ago, when the Romans evicted them from Israel. The current crop are converts from many backgrounds.

I know thy tribulation and thy poverty, but thou art rich: and thou art blasphemed by them that say they are Jews and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

The Apocalypse Of Saint John 2:9-10

You surprise me. :coffee:

I shall not enquire after your other opinions today.

Amarantine
09-16-2009, 11:54 AM
well this subject is interesting but still couldn't udnerstand that Jew subject.

Fortis in Arduis
09-16-2009, 12:41 PM
well this subject is interesting but still couldn't udnerstand that Jew subject.

This is a good starting point:

www.jtf.org

Amarantine
09-16-2009, 12:43 PM
how you find such sites?

Poltergeist
09-16-2009, 01:05 PM
This is a good starting point:

www.jtf.org

Are you serious? This website (and the organization) is run by some marginal nutcases who are not taken seriously even by the great majority of the Jews, including the right-wing Zionists.

Fortis in Arduis
09-16-2009, 01:15 PM
how you find such sites?

It is a good starting point.

I like people who speak their truth, as I speak mine.


Are you serious? This website (and the organization) is run by some marginal nutcases who are not taken seriously even by the great majority of the Jews, including the right-wing Zionists.

Indeed, but their programme is in the English language and open to gentiles, which makes it a good starting point.

Liffrea
09-16-2009, 04:29 PM
Not all Jews are Zionists, not all Zionists are Jews.....

Personally having linked to that site you sourced for the OP Fortis I find the author doesn't really seem to understand what National Socialism is, forgivable given that the definition of National Socialism and Fascism have been open to debate for some time, but his definition of nation is laughable, nation/ethnos is an organism of common ancestry, common tradition, common heritage, common culture, a nation cannot be anything else, perhaps he confuses nation with state?

Fortis in Arduis
09-16-2009, 04:58 PM
Not all Jews are Zionists, not all Zionists are Jews.....

Personally having linked to that site you sourced for the OP Fortis I find the author doesn't really seem to understand what National Socialism is, forgivable given that the definition of National Socialism and Fascism have been open to debate for some time, but his definition of nation is laughable, nation/ethnos is an organism of common ancestry, common tradition, common heritage, common culture, a nation cannot be anything else, perhaps he confuses nation with state?

The author knows very well,

and we know that he knows,
and he knows that we know that he knows,
and we know that he knows that we know that he knows,
and he knows that we know that he knows that we know that he knows,
and we know that he knows that we know that he knows that we know that he knows,
and he knows that we know that he knows that we know that he knows that we know that he knows...

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5680771968888528726&postID=7711377855493093862&isPopup=true

:coffee:

There is a shade of Dagna there as well, with the refrain 'Zionism is National Socialism'.

How terribly outre...

Creeping Death
09-16-2009, 08:17 PM
I shall not enquire after your other opinions today.
Why? Are you telling me that you find common ground with the Jewish Task Force of the assassinated Rabbi Meir Kahane.

Fortis in Arduis
09-17-2009, 08:26 AM
Why? Are you telling me that you find common ground with the Jewish Task Force of the assassinated Rabbi Meir Kahane.

I think that he was a truth-teller and a good activist.

I am not 100% sure about www.jtf.org but I like what the leader of that organisation has to say.

Amusingly, I now find indirectly find myself on the a Community Security Trust blog page with reference to the comments I made on the Lee Barnes blog...

(the original post was a heavily reconstructued version of this http://leejohnbarnes.blogspot.com/2009/09/its-zionism-not-israel-stupid.html )




Lee Barnes: Execute Zionist filth

September 16th, 2009 by Dave Rich

The BNP’s legal officer Lee Barnes has a new post on his blog in which he tries to explain the difference between Zionism and Israeli nationalism, and it’s fair to say he is a little confused:

We are for Israeli Nationalism – and against Zionism.

Some might say that they are one and the same – but Barnes explains:

Israel is not the problem – the problem are the Zionist scum in the UK and US who serve the interests of Israel whilst pretending to be British and American.

Ah – the old ‘dual loyalty’ charge again. This, remember, from the man who regurgitated Hitler’s explanation that the Second World War was all the fault of Jewish Bolsheviks. And what should be done with these deceiving Zionists?

The Zionist filth in the UK, of all races and religions, who serve the interests of the Zionists in Israel are simply traitors and must either be deported, jailed or executed if they have aided Israeli Zionists in such a way as to damage the national security interests of the UK.

Barnes ties himself in further knots in the comments to his own post, when it is pointed out to him that Israeli nationalism and Zionism are in fact the same thing. He replies by trying to prove that Zionism is in fact National Socialism – a comparison that is more commonly found on the far left than the far right – and then goes on to explain:

[Zionism] Is supra-national in regards to its reach – nationalists are nationalists who live and act in the nationalist context both politically and usually geographically (except for diplomats, army abroad on postings etc ), but Zionists have agents in every nation with dual loyalties or simply loyalty to Israel – so they are not nationalists. You cannot be a British Citizen and have loyalty to the goals of Zionism or the nation of Israel. You must have loyalty solely to Britain.



A Zionist wants to destroy the present nation state of Israel and create a Greater Israel, sees Israel as a nation solely for the Jewish Chosen People defined by race and who seeks to dominate the political, economic and media systems of the United States, UK, the Middle East and Palestine and to use the UK and other nations to serve the interests of Zionist Greater Israel and its fascist state security system.

So Zionism – according to Lee Barnes of the BNP – is a supra-national system, with hidden agents in every country, which seeks political, economic and media control of those countries to serve its malevolent purposes. This is a very familiar conspiracy theory.

Barnes is not the first to think that you can swap “Zionist” for “Jew”, say that Zionists can be “of all races and religions”, and then talk about Zionists in exactly the same way that antisemites describe Jews. It doesn’t work: it’s still antisemitic.

David Rich is not wrong.

The illogic of the anti-Semite has been revealed.

The blog which I paraphrased and plagiarised:


The one thing that links both the idiot sections of the Far Right and the idiots of the Far Left is their hatred of Israel.

This is because both these sets of people are as dumb as a sack of frogs.

We are for Israeli Nationalism - and against Zionism.

Neither can see that the problem is Zionism - the Zionists in Israel are arrogant, racist pigs who treat Christians as badly as they do their own Arab citizens.

The Zionist filth in the UK, of all races and religions, who serve the interests of the Zionists in Israel are simply traitors and must either be deported, jailed or executed if they have aided Israeli Zionists in such a way as to damage the national security interests of the UK.


Israel is a nation - and as nationalists we support the right of national self determination for all nations.

Attacking Israel as the trades unions Unison and Unite have just done is Anti-Semitism, not because Israel is a 'Jewish Nation' (which is itself proof that Zionism is National Socialism and racist) but because Israel is a home for semites of all religions, including both Christian Jews and Arabs and also Gentiles who wish to live in the land of Christos.

Zionists are Anti-semites as they despise their own Israeli Arab Christian and Muslim citizens, and also Anti-Gentilist as they also despise all gentiles - except the Shabbats Goyim like David Cameron and Gordon Brown who serve their Zionist masters faithfully as treasonous lapdogs.

Anti-Israelism is the product of warped minds and warped politics.

Anti-Semitism is how the Zionists keep in power in the UK, by peddling the myth of anti-semitism in the corporate media whilst embracing it as a political methodology in Israel.

Israel is not the problem - the problem are the Zionist scum in the UK and US who serve the interests of Israel whilst pretending to be British and American.

Once upon a time we called Zionists by their correct name - TRAITORS AND NAZIS.

The Zionists in Israel that run the Israeli government and Israeli Military Industrial Block are the only nazis in power on the face of the planet - and the sooner they are removed from power then an Israel based on morality rather than might can be built upon the remains of the Zionist fascist state.


http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/unison-and-unite-back-israel-boycott

Britain’s biggest trade union Unite, has confirmed it will be backing a boycott of Israeli goods proposed by the Fire Brigades Union, along with public sector trade union, Unison.

Unison and Unite’s support will now make the FBU’s chance of successfully getting the TUC to agree to the motion far greater.

Motion 76, tabled by the firefighters, called for the TUC to review its links with Histadrut, its Israeli trade union counterpart.

It also called for a ban on the importation of all goods from “illegal settlements”, the ending of all arms trading with Israel, a boycott of Israeli goods and divestment from companies “associated with the occupation”.

The motion will be debated at the TUC tomorrow in Liverpool.

The GMB, which proposed a compromise amendment condemning Hamas as well as Israel took the unusual step of issuing a statement condemning the actions of fellow trade unions.

Paul Kenny, general secretary of GMB said: “GMB is not a gesture trade union and we do not believe in carrying motions that we do not intend to put into effect. GMB does not believe that the position set out in Motion 76 is the correct position.

“GMB has no mandate for it and we believe it would cut off lines of communication with the Israeli trade unions. We will be moving our amendment of the floor tomorrow and we hope we will persuade the Congress to adopt what we consider is the correct position on this motion.”

GMB will support continuing links with Histadrut.

The FBU cited Histadrut’s support for the recent conflict Gaza as the reason for its proposed review of the two trade unions’ relations.

When the amendment was first proposed, a spokesman for the FBU said: “The Fire Brigades Union is proud of our history of opposition to racism. Our motions to the TUC are in that tradition of international concern.

“We are aware that there are progressive elements in Israeli society who strive for peaceful coexistence with the Palestinians and the establishment of a sovereign Palestinian state. Our TUC motions aim to strengthen that movement towards peace."

http://leejohnbarnes.blogspot.com/2009/09/its-zionism-not-israel-stupid.html

The hatred that an anti-Semite has for a Jewish individual, organisation or construct is inversely proportional to how self-hating that individual, organisation or construct is.

Creeping Death
09-17-2009, 09:58 AM
I think that he was a truth-teller and a good activist.
Oh yeah an FBI informant and user of his supporters regarding them only as source of money, money that allowed him to live high on the hog, he was a cult leader over weak minded dupes.

I am not 100% sure about www.jtf.org but I like what the leader of that organisation has to say.
What everyone is a Nazi and if your not a Nazi you are a Moslem sympathizer, its a propaganda front for Israel Yitzhak Shamir haed of the Mossad before becoming PM created the JTF along with Kahane when he was in the Knesset. The whole aim of the site is to convince white non-Jews that Israel is a real important ally of the West.

The hatred that an anti-Semite has for a Jewish individual, organisation or construct is inversely proportional to how self-hating that individual, organisation or construct is.
No you are delusional, Jews are worse than moslems, for so little of them , that through their control of the Federal Reserve in America they have raped that country of its wealth. And Britain which is tied to that country is following suit. Why do you think Germany tried to annihilate them in the 1940's, they are corrupt thieves.

Fortis in Arduis
09-17-2009, 10:29 AM
Oh yeah an FBI informant and user of his supporters regarding them only as source of money, money that allowed him to live high on the hog, he was a cult leader over weak minded dupes.

Kahane was an F.B.I informant?

That is, according to the left-wing self-hating Jew Robert I. Friedman

As I explained, the only Jews anti-Semites like are self-hating Jews. :clap2:

So how did your hero Adolf Shitler start his political career? I just wonder.

All the wrong people disliked Kahane, that is proof enough that he was a good man.


What everyone is a Nazi and if your not a Nazi you are a Moslem sympathizer, its a propaganda front for Israel Yitzhak Shamir haed of the Mossad before becoming PM created the JTF along with Kahane when he was in the Knesset. The whole aim of the site is to convince white non-Jews that Israel is a real important ally of the West.

Actually, I think that the JTF is the only Kahanist group which tries to engage with interested and sympathetic non-Jews, and their main programme is to encourage nationalist dissent in Israel, and rightly so.

If that means using strong exaggerated invective, then so be it, so long as the concept is not lost.

To the best of my knowledge Kahane never did that, but we are living in a different world today.

Put into context, Jewish nationalism is expressly legislated against in Israel, and Chaim ben Pesach of the JTF is forbidden to enter the country.

Of course, as an anti-Semite, you probably think that is just wonderful... :rolleyes:


No you are delusional, Jews are worse than moslems, for so little of them , that through their control of the Federal Reserve in America they have raped that country of its wealth. And Britain which is tied to that country is following suit. Why do you think Germany tried to annihilate them in the 1940's, they are corrupt thieves.

Which Jews? Could you be more specific please? :coffee:

As you have evidenced for us, you admire and refer to the values and writings of left-wing self-hating Jews.

I wonder what THEY think of YOU?

What an egregious fool you are.

Creeping Death
09-17-2009, 10:44 AM
So how did your hero Adolf Shitler start his political career? I just wonder.
It was a shame he couldnt finish the job for the greater good of Europe and the White Race.

All the wrong people disliked Kahane, that is proof enough that he was a good man.
He was a pig ignorant Jew.

Which Jews? Could you be more specific please? :coffee:
Alan Greenspan, Ben S. Bernanke, Donald L. Kohn, Randall S. Kroszner, Frederic S. Mishkin, Goldman Sachs Bank, Kuhn Loeb Bank of New York/Shearson American Express, Lehman Brothers Bank and the Chase Manhattan Bank. Of course the JTF site has a video which blames non Jews for the financial crisis, all hosted by a wanker donning a Yarmulke .

What an egregious fool you are. :crazy:Keep you multicultural Semitic dross propaganda to yourself and join the Israel Forums (http://www.israelforum.com/).

Fortis in Arduis
09-17-2009, 10:54 AM
It was a shame he couldnt finish the job for the greater good of Europe and the White Race.

Oh well, I suppose it is up to you to do it now? Good luck with that, duckie.


He was a pig ignorant Jew.

And you are a highly intelligent non-porcine IRA supporter. :wink


Alan Greenspan, Ben S. Bernanke, Donald L. Kohn, Randall S. Kroszner, Frederic S. Mishkin, Goldman Sachs Bank, Kuhn Loeb Bank of New York/Shearson American Express, Lehman Brothers Bank and the Chase Manhattan Bank.

Ah, so I suppose that by naming and blaming these remote Jewish individuals, you might be able to start the world-saving pogrom that you so wish for. Are you going to do that all by yourself or are you going to enlist a couple of porkers from Stormfront to assist you? :wink


Of course the JTF site has a video which blames non Jews for the financial crisis, all hosted by a wanker donning a Yarmulke .

Do you not like yarmulkes then? :eek:

Could you be a lamb and bring that video up for our readers to enjoy?

I dare you.


Keep your multicultural Semitic dross propaganda to yourself and join the Israel Forums (http://www.israelforum.com/).

No.

I am going to be here for a very very long time and you can keep your left-wing self-hating Jewish propaganda to yourself, if you like. ;)

Creeping Death
09-17-2009, 09:15 PM
I find this pro Jewish thread totally offensive to European people, it links to a Jewish site that propagates the continued extortion of Western wealth to feed the parasitic Jewish welfare state through expensive ‘aid’ programmes, whilst arrogantly and sanctimoniously arguing against welfare to ordinary American citizens. It endorses the continued extortion of the German generation of today saddling them with continued reparations for the ‘Holocaust’. The site was an avid participant in the boycott of Swiss Banks in America that finally extorted 1.5 billion Euros from the Swiss people. This site advocates American and European military attacks on Mid East nations, provoking wars costing European lives whilst advocating Israel remains out of the conflict.

So take your pro Jewish shit and shove it, as far as I am concerned if Iran attacks Israel I will back Iran 100% against Israel, because I know the bigger threat to us is Israel. I hope they turn Israel into a Sea of radioactive Green Glass.

Sol Invictus
09-17-2009, 09:27 PM
http://i30.tinypic.com/zsl8yg.jpg

Poltergeist
09-17-2009, 09:29 PM
http://i30.tinypic.com/zsl8yg.jpg

Sieg heil! Zip file!

Fortis in Arduis
09-18-2009, 01:41 AM
I find this pro Jewish thread totally offensive to European people, it links to a Jewish site that propagates the continued extortion of Western wealth to feed the parasitic Jewish welfare state through expensive ‘aid’ programmes, whilst arrogantly and sanctimoniously arguing against welfare to ordinary American citizens.

Good morning Brian and thank you so much for posting that.



True Zionists Oppose Foreign Aid


With polls showing nearly universal opposition among Americans to the wasting of their tax dollars on so-called "foreign aid," it is only due to the intensive lobbying and arm-twisting of the self-hating cowards in Jewish establishment organizations that the foreign aid bill passes each year.

The number one priority for the so-called "Jewish lobby" is to ensure passage of this legislation in each session of Congress.

We have been told a million times that if not for the $3 billion that Israel receives each year in foreign aid, the Jewish state would not exist.

What sick, cowardly, faithless ignorance!

The opposite is true. Foreign aid to Israel is the worst curse imaginable. It creates a dependence which cripples Israel and endangers her survival on every level.

Giving a nation foreign aid is like giving drugs to a drug addict or welfare to a welfare recipient. The recipient is never helped by the slavish dependence created by the hand-out.

No healthy economy has ever been or ever will be created by hand-outs. Only total self-sufficiency and independence can build a prosperous and healthy society.

This is especially true with Israel.

When G-d wins miraculous victories for Israel in her wars of survival against an Arab Muslim Nazi enemy that outnumbers her 100 to 1, instead of giving credit to G-d, self-hating and faithless Jews claim that U.S. foreign aid is responsible for the victories.

This is the ultimate desecration of G-d's name.

Israel's whole purpose in being a tiny, hopelessly outnumbered, pipsqueak nation is to win miraculous victories against a far larger enemy so as to prove to the world that the G-d of Israel is the Master of the Universe.

When self-hating Jewish weasels claim that foreign aid somehow wins these victories for Israel, as preposterous as that assertion is, it dilutes the power and majesty of G-d's intervention on behalf of His people.

Therefore foreign aid is a sin, a curse and an abomination.

It only brings punishment upon Israel and America.

One can also see the natural consequences of this terrible program.

The Israeli government controls most of the Israeli economy through inefficient state-owned corporations. All Israeli economists agree that Israel could become the premier economic powerhouse of the world in high technology if all of these state-owned corporations were privatized.

But Jewish politicians in Israel, despite knowing that this hurts the Jewish state, so enjoy the power of controlling these companies and industries that they refuse to privatize.

If foreign aid to Israel were cut off, Israeli politicians would no longer have the artificial subsidy needed to prop up many of these failing state-owned enterprises. They would be forced to privatize, like it or not. And the heavy hand of Bolshevik big government in Israel would be taken off the throats of Israeli Jews.

In the military sphere, Israel can certainly become self-sufficient.

Currently 50% of all Israeli weapons are manufactured by the Jewish state herself.

As a condition for receiving foreign aid, Israel is forced to purchase costly and often unnecessary weapons systems to bolster big multinational arms manufacturers in the United States.

If Israel instead put all of her military focus into self-sufficiency and had a liberated economy to boot, there is little doubt that the Jewish state would emerge far stronger militarily than she is today.

And, of course, not receiving foreign aid means not being subject to the extortive ultimatums of the donor country, which regularly threatens to cut off the supposedly necessary foreign aid unless Israel makes suicidal concessions.

If Israel did not receive U.S. foreign aid, the current Clinton-Gore-Albright blackmail against the Jewish state would ring very hollow indeed.

Therefore, the Kahanist Jews and righteous Gentiles of JTF oppose all foreign aid both to Israel and to all other nations.

Many idiotic Jew-haters rail against foreign aid, thinking that by doing so, they are hurting Israel. These fools are actually doing Israel a big favor.

"Lo, it is a nation that shall dwell alone and not be reckoned among the nations" were the words of the evil Jew-hating prophet Bilam in the Bible, as he sought to curse the Jews with the supposed "curse" of isolation.

But he then realized that G-d accepted his proclamation but turned his curse into Israel's greatest blessing. For when the Jews are all alone and have no foreign aid and still win incredible victories against all odds, then Jews and righteous Gentiles everywhere are forced to see the mighty hand of G-d at work.

http://jtf.org/israel/israel.true.zionists.oppose.foreign.aid.htm


It endorses the continued extortion of the German generation of today saddling them with continued reparations for the ‘Holocaust’. The site was an avid participant in the boycott of Swiss Banks in America that finally extorted 1.5 billion Euros from the Swiss people. This site advocates American and European military attacks on Mid East nations, provoking wars costing European lives whilst advocating Israel remains out of the conflict.

This article goes right back to 1998, when the JTF opposed the Iraq war:




Iran, not Iraq, is the main enemy

The phony and transparent "wag the dog" decision by the serpent Bill Clinton to begin bombing Iraq on the same day that Congress was to vote on his impeachment must not be permitted to obscure a very important fact: it is Iran, and not Iraq, which has come closest to finally having the nuclear, chemical and biological weapons of mass destruction that will be used to perpetrate a holocaust against the United States and Israel.

The Iranian Nazis have sworn for decades that they will construct an "Islamic bomb" that will destroy Israel and also enable Muslim terrorists to murder millions of Americans.

The Iranian Nazis recently demonstrated that they have already developed the missile launching capacity to strike at Israel with such a weapon.

Our sainted leader, HaRav (The Rabbi) Meir Kahane, warned many years ago that Israel had to immediately destroy any nuclear facility being developed by a Muslim nation.

Israel certainly proved on numerous occasions that she has the capacity to do so.

The problem is that she lacks the will, because of the cowardly whores who run the country.

And so now her entire population is exposed to the prospect of nuclear holocaust, G-d forbid, because of the banning from Israeli politics of the Kahanists, who were and are the only Jews willing to take appropriate action on this life-and-death matter.

Clinton and Secretary of State Madeline Albright know full well about Iranian nuclear development.

These cowards are simply afraid to attack Iran.

Iraq, on the other hand, is a more "acceptable" target because of the 1990 invasion of Kuwait.

Furthermore, Iraq was greatly weakened during the Persian Gulf War by both the military strikes and the severe international economic sanctions imposed afterward.

The Iranian Nazis continue to openly call for the destruction of all non-Muslims; continue to boast that they are sponsoring Islamic terrorist attacks on northern Israel through the Hezbollah murderers whom they arm, fund and train; and continue to idolize butchers like Sheik Rahman, who carried out the World Trade Center bombing.

If JTF does not get the support it needs to be able to issue warnings weekly on national American and/or Israeli television, there may eventually be a nuclear, chemical or biological holocaust against targets in the West.

Millions of people may face brutal and sudden destruction, G-d forbid.

There are thousands, if not millions, of Muslims eager to bring an Iranian atomic bomb into America or Israel - After the London subway bombing of July 2006, in which dozens were murdered, the four Muslim terrorist bombers were found to have been affluent youths who enjoyed playing cricket and whose parents owned respectable businesses like a fish-and-chips shop

This is the Muslim plan. It is what they have promised to do, and they mean every word of it.

http://jtf.org/america/america.iran.the.main.enemy.htm

In fact, the Israel wanted to take out Iran nuclear capabilities very recently, but were forbidden to do so by George W. Bush:


WASHINGTON — President Bush deflected a secret request by Israel last year for specialized bunker-busting bombs it wanted for an attack on Iran’s main nuclear complex and told the Israelis that he had authorized new covert action intended to sabotage Iran’s suspected effort to develop nuclear weapons, according to senior American and foreign officials.

Last year, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert of Israel asked President Bush for bunker-busting bombs and permission to fly over Iraq to attack the plant.

White House officials never conclusively determined whether Israel had decided to go ahead with the strike before the United States protested, or whether Prime Minister Ehud Olmert of Israel was trying to goad the White House into more decisive action before Mr. Bush left office. But the Bush administration was particularly alarmed by an Israeli request to fly over Iraq to reach Iran’s major nuclear complex at Natanz, where the country’s only known uranium enrichment plant is located.

The White House denied that request outright, American officials said, and the Israelis backed off their plans, at least temporarily. But the tense exchanges also prompted the White House to step up intelligence-sharing with Israel and brief Israeli officials on new American efforts to subtly sabotage Iran’s nuclear infrastructure, a major covert program that Mr. Bush is about to hand off to President-elect Barack Obama.


http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/11/washington/11iran.html


So take your pro Jewish shit and shove it, as far as I am concerned if Iran attacks Israel I will back Iran 100% against Israel, because I know the bigger threat to us is Israel. I hope they turn Israel into a Sea of radioactive Green Glass.

No, you do not.

You are just saying that for effect, so, I think that you need have a little word with yourself because you are forty-five years old now.

:coffee:

Now, if you will excuse me, it is 3am and I need to merge with the absolute. xx

Or at least try.

Fortis in Arduis
09-18-2009, 04:44 AM
Brian, I think that you must stop drinking, clean up your life and see what good you can do, because even if you do not actually believe all the things that you say, you are still wasting your life away.

Creeping Death
09-18-2009, 07:33 AM
Good morning Brian and thank you so much for posting that.

True Zionists Oppose Foreign AidWe have been told a million times that if not for the $3 billion that Israel receives each year in foreign aid, the Jewish state would not exist.
It is way more than $3 Billion, Israel receives$ 6 billion annually (http://peacepalestine.blogspot.com/2005/04/us-aid-to-israel-what-us-taxpayer.html) in aid , military and loan guarantees .

Add to that $2.5 billion figure Egypts gets in aid which was given to Egypt to buy Israel peace, as part of the Camp David agreement .And add to that the freetrade deal (http://www.ustr.gov/Document_Library/Press_Releases/2004/December/United_States,_Egypt_Israel_to_Launch_Historic_Tra de_Partnership_USTR_Zoellick_to_Participate_in_Sig ning_in_Cairo.html) America offered Egypt that means duty free exports into the US market provided these exports contain that contain Israeli inputs that is some $2 billion more .

And add to that Jordans lucrative US-Jordan Free Trade Agreement (http://intl.econ.cuhk.edu.hk/rta/index.php?did=12) to buy off Jordan to placate Israel and thats another 1,266.8 billion a year (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5110.html) . And finally Israel free access to the US economy that costs America a whooping 16,830.5 billion (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5081.html#2005) and add to that the $10 billion (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/2867619.stm) in loan guarantees the US gave Israel in 2003 alone to fix its shattered economy , fuck boy your looking at big bucks . Thats $40 billion a year thats 3 % of US GDP according to US figures, that Jewish $hithole is draining us White people dry .

In fact, the Israel wanted to take out Iran nuclear capabilities very recently, but were forbidden to do so by George W. Bush:I dont want to stop Israel attacking Iran, I want Israel to attack Iran and I want Iran to retaliate with Atomic weapons and then I want those Jews in Israel to retaliate with their Atomic weapons killing millions of you olive skinned animals. Then when it is all over we whites can go down to the Persian Gulf sink a huge tap into the oil wells and get free oil.

You are just saying that for effect, so, I think that you need have a little word with yourself because you are forty-five years old now.

:coffee:
I really mean it, I find Jews and Arabs pigs.

Now, if you will excuse me, it is 3am and I need to merge with the absolute. xx
Here is some Yiddish for you Kush mein tuchus aryn du ashlock,,,,,,,,,Kiss my Ass you Asshole.

Brian, I think that you must stop drinking, clean up your life and see what good you can do, because even if you do not actually believe all the things that you say, you are still wasting your life away.
I enjoy being a drunk and loser, what a disgusting thread.

Fortis in Arduis
09-18-2009, 08:11 AM
It is way more than $3 Billion, Israel receives in aid , military and loan guarantees.

Your figures are from 1997, my post's quote's figures were from 1998. Perhaps the figure is less or even more now? What difference does it make?

The www.jtf.org website (pick that up Google!) which I linked to campaigns for the cessation of US foreign aid to Israel, yet you said:


I find this pro Jewish thread totally offensive to European people, it links to a Jewish site that propagates the continued extortion of Western wealth to feed the parasitic Jewish welfare state through expensive ‘aid’ programmes, whilst arrogantly and sanctimoniously arguing against welfare to ordinary American citizens.

So, you were wrong, and I was right. Yet, you continue to bluster:


Add to that $2.5 billion figure Egypts gets in aid which was given to Egypt to buy Israel peace, as part of the Camp David agreement .And add to that the freetrade deal (http://www.ustr.gov/Document_Library/Press_Releases/2004/December/United_States,_Egypt_Israel_to_Launch_Historic_Tra de_Partnership_USTR_Zoellick_to_Participate_in_Sig ning_in_Cairo.html) America offered Egypt that means duty free exports into the US market provided these exports contain that contain Israeli inputs that is some $2 billion more .

And add to that Jordans lucrative US-Jordan Free Trade Agreement (http://intl.econ.cuhk.edu.hk/rta/index.php?did=12) to buy off Jordan to placate Israel and thats another 1,266.8 billion a year (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5110.html) . And finally Israel free access to the US economy that costs America a whooping 16,830.5 billion (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5081.html#2005) and add to that the $10 billion (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/2867619.stm) in loan guarantees the US gave Israel in 2003 alone to fix its shattered economy , fuck boy your looking at big bucks . Thats $40 billion a year thats 3 % of US GDP according to US figures, that Jewish $hithole is draining us White people dry .
I dont want to stop Israel attacking Iran, I want Israel to attack Iran and I want Iran to retaliate with Atomic weapons and then I want those Jews in Israel to retaliate with their Atomic weapons killing millions of you olive skinned animals. Then when it is all over we whites can go down to the Persian Gulf sink a huge tap into the oil wells and get free oil.

I really mean it, I find Jews and Arabs pigs.

Yet, you freely quote from pro-'Palestinian' blogs.

US foreign aid is not charity freely given. It buys foreign policy for the US, and arms deals for the US.

Peace in Israel will never be achieved if the US military-industrial block continue to exploit her.

Do you really think that the US administration gives aid to Egypt, Jordan, Israel or any other country for any reason other than profit?

The US Federal Reserve creates money to manipulate and cause mayhem, and they can get away with it, because the US has a excellent military-strategic landmass.

Also, the multinationals based in the US which which benefit from this are as opposed to Israel as you are.

Israel's existence, her opposition, actually lowers the price of oil, because it is harder for market monopolies to be created with discord in the way. Big Oil would push Israel into the sea sooner that you would, to effect easier monopolies in the Middle East and push the price of oil up.


Here is some Yiddish for you Kush mein tuchus aryn du ashlock,,,,,,,,,Kiss my Ass you Asshole.

Anal talk, cock talk, 'scat chat' or any other form is dirty talk will not draw me away from my meditations on the eternal.


I enjoy being a drunk and loser, what a disgusting thread.

No, you do not. Nobody does. I think that you are a depressed man, without meaning, in a world which you cannot understand. You therefore cling to myths which provide you with a feeling of certainty, rather than deferring to those who would advise or challenge you.

However, it is entirely your will that you do this and I do not pity you.

Creeping Death
09-18-2009, 08:20 AM
Yet, you freely quote from pro-Palestinian blogs.All my sources came from the US State department for trade and Foreign relations, I used no Palestinian blog or Israeli blog. Israel is a parasite nation.

No, you do not. Nobody does. I think that you are a depressed man, without meaning, in a world which you cannot understand. You therefore cling to myths which provide you with a feeling of certainty, rather than deferring to those who would advise or challenge you.
Goodnight I must leave you so I can get drunk and wallow in my sorrows and find even more reasons to hate Jews and Arabs even more.

Fortis in Arduis
09-18-2009, 08:36 AM
All my sources came from the US State department for trade and Foreign relations, I used no Palestinian blog or Israeli blog. Israel is a parasite nation.

This is where you got your $6bn figure from:

http://peacepalestine.blogspot.com/2005/04/us-aid-to-israel-what-us-taxpayer.html

Anyone can see that by clicking on the link in your post. More dishonesty and obfuscation.


Goodnight I must leave you so I can get drunk and wallow in my sorrows and find even more reasons to hate Jews and Arabs even more.

kbai...

Creeping Death
09-18-2009, 10:51 AM
Anyone can see that by clicking on the link in your post. More dishonesty and obfuscation.
This is a picture of the site owner she is Italian.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_NLZU_EPqaHw/RxpySKRZ-QI/AAAAAAAAATQ/lFyyzJMe72Q/s320/a+comacchio.jpg

And the other sources please confirm they are indeed US goverment sources.
kbai...
I dont want your pleasantries.

Fortis in Arduis
09-18-2009, 11:22 AM
This is a picture of the site owner she is Italian.

And the other sources please confirm they are indeed US goverment sources.


You quoted from a pro-Palestinian blog, which was what I originally said.

The liberal-Marxist white woman strikes again:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_NLZU_EPqaHw/RxpySKRZ-QI/AAAAAAAAATQ/lFyyzJMe72Q/s320/a+comacchio.jpg

What a stereotype. :laugh: :rolleyes: :mad:

Your claim that I was linking to the website of an organisation which supports Israel's dependency on US foreign aid was false.

Your claim that I was linking to the website of an organisation which campaigns for the US, rather than Israel, to take military action in the national interest of the Jewish-Israeli people was false.

You are a Hitlerite.

You are an IRA supporter.

You expound the propaganda of self-hating Jewish leftists.

You hope for the mass murder of millions of people in a nuclear war; the deaths of Jews, Arabs and Iranians, and anyone else who happens to be there.

You devolve into scat chat and bum-talk, in yiddish, when reference is made to the divinity.

You are a skin colour racist.




You cannot be serious.

:coffee:

Who are you really Foley? :suspicious:

Creeping Death
09-18-2009, 05:56 PM
You are a Hitlerite.
Of course a National Socialist Europe is what I would of wanted.

You are an IRA supporter.
Of course I make no secret of it.

You expound the propaganda of self-hating Jewish leftists.
I hate all Jews.

You hope for the mass murder of millions of people in a nuclear war; the deaths of Jews, Arabs and Iranians, and anyone else who happens to be there.
Yes It is afterall our region that you Semites invaded from India.

You are a skin colour racist.
Oh yeah make no mistake I am a White Supremacist.

Who are you really Foley? :suspicious:A drunken Factory worker.

Fortis in Arduis
09-19-2009, 10:36 AM
Of course a National Socialist Europe is what I would of wanted.

Would have wanted. ;)


I hate all Jews.


Ah, but like all anti-Semites, which is what you truly are, of all the Jewish political milleux you still prefer self-hating liberal-Marxist Jews and their message of insane fuckery which has, as part of a broader scheme, brought us to where we are today.

That is what is so untenable about your position and those like you.

You cry 'Jews have their ethnocentrism, yet seek to deny us ours', as if the Jewish people (or Zionists if you prefer lol) are a unified political entity, posting ludicrous threads such as this one:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8221

Yet, if Jews are nationalistic that is deemed to be even worse...

There ends your sorry tale of absurdity, and you just repeat and repeat and repeat...