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Albion
06-05-2013, 04:51 AM
The Swedish government is considering applying for membership of the NATO Response Force as part of maintaining continued interoperability, Swedish defence officials have made clear.

"We are prepared to consider this," said Swedish Defence Minister Karin Enstrom.
Even the opposition, Social Democrats which have previously opposed to such membership, seem to be moderating their mind and want to discuss the issue.

This follows NATO Secretary General, Anders Fogh Rasmussen, reaction yesterday in Sweden when he said that NATO will not assist Sweden as Sweden continues to remain outside the organisation. He said so as he visited the People and Defend national conference in Sälen, Sweden Monday.

"I think everyone in Sweden knows that there is a difference between being and not being a member. You cannot be outside NATO, while taking advantage of all what NATO provides," said Anders Fogh Rasmussen. "Sweden should not count on NATO's help if it continues to stay outside." he said yesterday.

NATO Response Force, (NRF), can deploy 13,000 troops in a crisis somewhere in the world. Finland has already joined, while Sweden persistently remained outside.
Swedish Social Democratic Defence spokesman, Peter Hultqvist, seems to see the benefits of a Swedish NRF membership.

"We think it is important that Finland and Sweden have a better coordinated approach and we take the same position as we are militarily nonaligned," he says.
"I am willing to have an open mind and examine what this could mean," he said.

NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen after taking part yesterday in People and Defend national conference in Sälen, Sweden had lunch with Swedish Defense Minister, Karin Enstrom.

When NATO had settled its military operation in Afghanistan in 2014, the NRF will become increasingly important to practice and coordinate with NATO, according to the former Danish Prime Minister. "It is a Swedish decision whether to participate or not, but the possibility remains open," said Anders Fogh Rasmussen.

The Swedish government was interested in taking part in the initiative in 2008, to participate in the NRF. But then, the Social Democrats rejected such involvement arguing that the defence budget is not enough and that it would make Sweden one step closer to NATO membership.

Estonian Foreign Minister, Urmas Paet feels that Sweden is already behaving as a NATO member.
"Some, including myself, believe that Sweden and Finland are already de facto members of NATO," he said at the conference. Rasmussen pointed out that membership for Sweden would give defence guarantees and a seat at the table where decisions are made.
Fogh Rasmussen said that all NATO countries would heartily welcome Finland and Sweden if they applied for membership.
"Sweden is actually one of our most active partners," says Rasmussen. According to him, a Swedish membership application would be dealt with quickly, as the country is well prepared. The fact that Sweden spends less on defence than what NATO recommends does not affect its membership application. Fogh Rasmussen said that many NATO members have not reached that proposed spending goal.

Source (http://www.scancomark.com/Political-economy/Swedish-government-considering-joining-NATO-100315012013.html)

Vasa
06-05-2013, 04:55 AM
I dont think Sweden will enter NATO in near future.

Hurrem sultana
06-05-2013, 04:56 AM
Most Swedes are against this,i doubt they will at least not soon

Baluarte
06-05-2013, 04:57 AM
Finland is on the same path.
That explains why the Russians are so edgy:

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Finnish PM seeks public debate about country’s NATO membership
27 May 2013

The Finnish Prime Minister, Jyrki Katainen, has suggested holding a public debate about Finland’s NATO membership.

He appeared on a programme of the YLE National TV and Radio Corporation last Sunday to point out that if a majority of Finns object to NATO membership, Helsinki will not seek the status of a NATO member-country.

Pure ja
06-10-2013, 01:42 PM
Finland is on the same path.
That explains why the Russians are so edgy:


Let's hope so.
Because Putin has not fallen asleep.

http://m-alexandrov.livejournal.com/12329.html

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fm-alexandrov.livejournal.com%2F12329.html

Baluarte
06-10-2013, 01:50 PM
Normal reaction. NATO has been expanding very heavily for the last 20 years.
Russia seems to be one of the few countries with the capacity and the political will to counter this cartel.

Pure ja
06-17-2013, 04:02 PM
Normal reaction. NATO has been expanding very heavily for the last 20 years.
Russia seems to be one of the few countries with the capacity and the political will to counter this cartel.

Like it did in Georgia?
Or in Transdnistria?

Peikko
06-17-2013, 04:04 PM
Like it did in Georgia?
Or in Transdnistria?
Georgians can only blame themselves.

Baluarte
06-17-2013, 05:07 PM
Georgians can only blame themselves.

Their government actually.
A loud mouth president who believed that all his boot licking will get him the unquestionable support of the American War Machine.

Pure ja
06-17-2013, 07:37 PM
Georgians can only blame themselves.

Or can they Mr KnowItAll?
They can surely blame themselves, but the main culprit lies to the north.

I can see that some finns have lost their ability and connections to interpret what's going on behind their eastern border.
And if you disagree, then mind you, I haven't claimed that the Georgian presidency and government hasn't made mistakes.
I claimed that the imperialistic practices of Russia hasn't changed really, really. And THAT you will have a VERY HARD time to argue against.

sevruk
06-17-2013, 07:49 PM
Like it did in Georgia?
Or in Transdnistria?

you're a typical Estonian idiot. You're cloned in Estonia?

Styggnacke
06-17-2013, 08:07 PM
I am pretty sure the status quo will remain, where we are outside it, but still are highly involved in NATO activities. There is no great popular support for joining NATO and it is not a burning issue anymore (compared to during the Cold War), so I do not think the politicians will push hard for it.

Pure ja
06-18-2013, 07:20 PM
You're cloned in Estonia?

No, estonians are all quite unique.

But once we master the cloning, we will march over Russia with a billion strong army and call it liberation and call it a (V-)day. :thumb001:

Peikko
06-18-2013, 07:25 PM
Or can they Mr KnowItAll?
They can surely blame themselves, but the main culprit lies to the north.

I can see that some finns have lost their ability and connections to interpret what's going on behind their eastern border.
And if you disagree, then mind you, I haven't claimed that the Georgian presidency and government hasn't made mistakes.
I claimed that the imperialistic practices of Russia hasn't changed really, really. And THAT you will have a VERY HARD time to argue against.
I don't really care about imperialistic practices of Russia. If they ever try invading Finland, then I'll start caring, but I really don't know anything about former Soviet Republics, so excuse me for not crying a river for Georgia.

Pure ja
06-18-2013, 09:15 PM
I don't really care about imperialistic practices of Russia. If they ever try invading Finland, then I'll start caring, but I really don't know anything about former Soviet Republics, so excuse me for not crying a river for Georgia.

An honest answer :)