Melissa Gorga.. full Italian or mixed? She says she's full Italian

[Sikeliot]

But IMO she looks black.

I do not believe she is full Italian for one second. She looks like Tia and Tamera Mowry.

http://i47.tinypic.com/dlhs94.png
http://i49.tinypic.com/2ryt11u.png
http://ferociafatale.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/melissa-gorga-before.png
http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2011/news/111219/melissa-gorga-300.jpg

[Sikeliot]

She looks Somali or Ethiopian to me..

and her daughter looks mixed.

http://cdn.blogs.babble.com/famecrawler/files/real-housewives-nj/8a2d7b62011211e2ab4c22000a1d0350_7.jpg

[alfieb]

She's within the native Southern Italian range.

[Sikeliot]

She's within the native Southern Italian range.

Really? I am surprised. She looks Ethiopian to me.

[YeshAtid]

sicilian with berber

[Vasconcelos]

She looks Somali or Ethiopian to me..

and her daughter looks mixed.

Who's the father?

[YeshAtid]

she's half ethiopian

[alfieb]

sicilian with berber
Doesn't necessarily mean non-native admix. Some Sicilians look North African.

[Ivan Kramskoï]

Not euro

[YeshAtid]

sexy

[Sikeliot]

Doesn't necessarily mean non-native admix. Some Sicilians look North African.

She doesn't look North African though to me. She doesn't look like anything that can result naturally given the Sicilian gene pool. She actually to me looks Horn African or some sort of black admixed. I think if I posted her and no one knew who she was, we'd hear every guess from Ethiopian to Yemeni to Indian even.

[Maximum Speed]

Africa...

[alfieb]

Not from me. I'd guess Ashkenazi.

[Amun]

She might be have some far ancestors from North Africa

[Graham]

Her parents

http://blogs.babble.com/famecrawler/files/2011/08/fkzgb.jpg

[Arbërori]

Just Med, maybe South Med to an extreme. I don't see anything wrong about her.

[Sikeliot]

Her parents

http://blogs.babble.com/famecrawler/files/2011/08/fkzgb.jpg

Both of them look European to me. Mother sort of Greek looking, and father could really be anything in Europe except the northeast and Scandinavia. Neither one looks black. I bet you that's not her real father.

[Sikeliot]

Just Med, maybe South Med to an extreme. I don't see anything wrong about her.

You see nothing atypical about this?

http://i49.tinypic.com/2ryt11u.png

[singular]

She doesn't look negroid. Maybe North African, but not necessarily.

[Ivan Kramskoï]

I did not know italians were africans ^^

[Stormer99]

Mixed with some kind of East African. There are some people who say she doesn't look it just because she was born in Europe. Paternity testing is in order.... lol

[Sikeliot]

In order; Melissa Gorga, Tia and Tamera Mowry, and an Ethiopian:


http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2011/04/14/entertainment/photos_stories/14.1t098.wives2--300x300.jpghttp://fashionbombdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Snapshot-Tia-and-Tamera-Mowry-For-Essence-April-2013.jpghttp://top-beautiful-women.com/images/2/Ethiopia/Helen%20Getachew%20%20(10).jpg

[Arbërori]

It's the tan, not the features.

[Stormer99]

It's the tan, not the features.

Even if the skin weren't tanned she would still look mixed with East African because of the features. Tanned Italians can maybe pass for Lebanese but not Ethiopian. I honestly think it's a bias that she was born in Europe. If she was born anywhere else people would clearly see the SSA features.

[alfieb]

I don't see SSA features. Maybe because I'm from New York and I've lived in Sicily, but she doesn't look as unusual to me as she seems to look to others. :shrug:

[Stormer99]

If she came from anywhere other than Europe, more people would say she looked SSA mixed right away.

[King Claus]

She's got a significant amount of black admixture.

[aja675]

I don't see SSA features. Maybe because I'm from New York and I've lived in Sicily, but she doesn't look as unusual to me as she seems to look to others. :shrug:

Any pics of similar looking Sicilians?

[alfieb]

Not offhand. She looks different in just about every photo.

But if one were to look at Maria Grazia Cucinotta, they might say that she looks like she's got significant negro admix when she's 100% Sicilian.

We live in a world where people insist that if something looks unusual to them, there must be an explanation for it, and that's not always the case. She may very well be 100% Italian.

[riverman]

Wheres the 'I don't know' option on this poll? It's difficult to tell if shes admixed, some pics she looks admixed, others not

[riverman]

Not offhand. She looks different in just about every photo.

But if one were to look at Maria Grazia Cucinotta, they might say that she looks like she's got significant negro admix when she's 100% Sicilian.

We live in a world where people insist that if something looks unusual to them, there must be an explanation for it, and that's not always the case. She may very well be 100% Italian.

Same situation with that greek athlete.

[alfieb]

Same situation with that greek athlete.

And with Rita Ora, the Kosovar Albanian singer. Swarthy complexion + unusual appearance = YOU MUST BE BLACK OR GYPSY!

[Smeagol]

Definitely part East African.

[Trun]

There are people like that everywhere in Southern Europe. Especially among celebrities (often intentional exotic appearance).

Look at this:

http://senzacia.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Magi_Jeliazkova_7.jpg

[Methusalem]

She's within the native Southern Italian range.

You must be trolling. Yes I have seen some arabid/near eastern looking South Italians but not such clear SSA admixed ones.

[Methusalem]

She doesn't look North African though to me. She doesn't look like anything that can result naturally given the Sicilian gene pool. She actually to me looks Horn African or some sort of black admixed. I think if I posted her and no one knew who she was, we'd hear every guess from Ethiopian to Yemeni to Indian even.

She looks more like an Afroadmixed Dominican or Puerto Rican than a Horn African.

[riverman]

You must be trolling. Yes I have seen some arabid/near eastern looking South Italians but not such clear SSA admixed ones.

Check out the sicily threads, you'll be surprised. There are other s.Europeans like her in other threads, you cant just assume admix

[Methusalem]

Even if the skin weren't tanned she would still look mixed with East African because of the features. Tanned Italians can maybe pass for Lebanese but not Ethiopian. I honestly think it's a bias that she was born in Europe. If she was born anywhere else people would clearly see the SSA features.

Her features look zero % Ethiopian. Her noseshape is atypical for Horners. Definitely more common in Europe than anywhere in the Horn.

[Roy]

mixed

[Arbërori]

I believe she's full Italian, her features don't seem off, but her complexion.

[riverman]

I believe she's full Italian, her features don't seem off, but her complexion.

Yeah, that's my guess also, however Alfieb says its in the range.:confused:

[liamliam]

LOL she clearly has some non-European mix in her, she looks like a quarter black, or north african maybe. You can see the Italian in her too, but she definetly also looks like she has some north african in her.

[alfieb]

And Sicilians don't have North African in them? :picard1:

[liamliam]

And Sicilians don't have North African in them? :picard1:

It might be that too, maybe her parents are Sicillian and have some distant north African in them or something.

[Roy]

I think she could be even 25% Negroid, just look at her hair texture, the nose tip and slight prognathism.

[felix1991]

she can't be full european. definately mixed

[Insuperable]

Mixed

[Farah]

http://ferociafatale.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/melissa-gorga-before.png


But here in her most natural, pre-celebrity state, she looks fully Italian. I don't see any African features or hair texture? Her hair seems to be coarsely curly.

[Sikeliot]

There is just something "off" about her.. her coloring, hair, etc. I just don't know how to describe it.

[Peyrol]

Lolwut, she's half tigrinha.

[Sikeliot]

Lolwut, she's half tigrinha.

Has she said it or are you saying she looks it?

[Peyrol]

She look tigrinha.

Not surprising the oddest and strangest self-declared ''southern italian'' i see are in reality americans...

[Sikeliot]

She look tigrinha.

Not surprising the oddest and strangest self-declared ''southern italian'' i see are in reality americans...

Vinny on Jersey Shore is another odd one, but in his case he just looks like one of those Asiatic looking North Africans.

[Peyrol]

Vinny on Jersey Shore is another odd one, but in his case he just looks like one of those Asiatic looking North Africans.

...and Paulie D...look from Guatemala or Honduras...maybe they've mixed parents, or simply they lie about their ethnic background.

[MissProvocateur]

She doesn't look 100% European to me... She looks mixed.

[Sikeliot]

...and Paulie D...look from Guatemala or Honduras...maybe they've mixed parents, or simply they lie about their ethnic background.


Pauly D is part "Portuguese" (he looks like a more admixed Cristiano Ronaldo type to me).. his mother is from Rhode Island and thus probably either Cape Verdean or Brazilian:

http://starcasm.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Pauly_D_mom.jpg
http://www.mtv.com/onair/when_i_was_17/photos/cast/pauly_d/24.jpg
http://s-ak.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal01/2010/9/14/12/enhanced-buzz-15487-1284482241-9.jpg

[Peyrol]

The mom look octoroon...i would guess her as cuban or brazilian if i'll see her here in Torino's streets.

[Sikeliot]

The mom look octoroon...i would guess her as cuban or brazilian if i'll see her here in Torino's streets.

I assume she is Brazilian or part. She is part Italian if the surname given for her is correct online, but she is from Rhode Island, and Pauly D is said to be part "Portuguese" so it must be his grandmother.

[Peyrol]

I assume she is Brazilian or part. She is part Italian if the surname given for her is correct online, but she is from Rhode Island, and Pauly D is said to be part "Portuguese" so it must be his grandmother.

''Del Vecchio'' it's a campanian surname, btw

http://www.gens.info/lib/cog/maps/cognomi/D/DEL_VECCHIO.gif

[Sikeliot]

The mother's surname is DiMarco. Which means she likely has an Italian father and a Brazilian or Cape Verdean mother, and not any real "Portuguese" ancestry unlike reported.

[Mirko]

She is definitely not a full blooded Italian. She can't pass neither in Sicily or South Italy!

[Sikeliot]

She is definitely not a full blooded Italian. She can't pass neither in Sicily or South Italy!

I agree. I still maintain she looks Ethiopian, or half Ethiopian half Italian. Some of the more exotic Sicilians can look like Lebanese or Assyrians but I've never seen a single one who can look like Melissa Gorga..

[Smaug]

Clearly admixed. Everybody that voted "within the Italian range" is a troll and deserve to die nat! Ok, they don't deserve to die, but they are trolls.

[rashka]

She looks Moroccan.

[captainmoon]

I have a hard time believing she's full Italian. I know many Sicilians and I've never seen one as dark as her...

[Sikeliot]

I have a hard time believing she's full Italian. I know many Sicilians and I've never seen one as dark as her...

What is the most "exotic" the Sicilians you know look? I've never seen one look black admixed like she does.

[Mirko]

She look like Lou Bega, who is half sicilian and half ugandan... 34479

[Prince Carlo]

''Del Vecchio'' it's a campanian surname, btw

http://www.gens.info/lib/cog/maps/cognomi/D/DEL_VECCHIO.gif

Not it is a Apulian-Emilian-Lombard surname actually.

http://www.cognomix.it/mappe-dei-cognomi-italiani/DELVECCHIO

[Spacchiu]

She's within the native Southern Italian range.

shut up guido... she can't pass in europe

Country Malta,region sicily :facepalm:

[Incal]

Is she american?

[Peyrol]

Is she american?

Obviously...the oddest and ugliest selfdeclared ''italians'' i see are from Noo Joyzey...

[mr. logan]

Full italian in an italian porn movie.

[Christine Dte]

They are her husband's parents and that little girl is Melissa and her husband's daughter. Melissa herself is actually not in this picture, only her kids and inlaws.

[daniboy]

But IMO she looks black.

I do not believe she is full Italian for one second. She looks like Tia and Tamera Mowry.

http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2011/news/111219/melissa-gorga-300.jpg

doesn't look italian
she reminds me Tia Mowry from Sister Sister
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQwRQYBIVnKyKLlV0SswjPXDex9nzi47 IsPXiHHKv8chhlWLvvg

[Anthropologique]

Her hair has also been straightened. This woman's father is known for cheating on his wife, big time. Who the hell knows.

[Sikeliot]

I think she looks Ethiopian still. Stereotypically so.

Like this
http://missethiopiaworld.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/scan0059.jpg

[YeshAtid]

She's probably a quadroon

[Anthropologique]

Her childhood pix indicate mulatta.

[Anthropologique]

If she's native Italian I'm 100% Martian.

[Hess]

She's within the native Southern Italian range.

I would agree with this.

What reason would she have to lie? It's not like she's a poster on a racial anthroboard where people actually care about such things. It could be that she's not fully Italian but simply ignorant of her Non-Italian heritage, but that's fairly unlikely.

[Sikeliot]

It could be that she's not fully Italian but simply ignorant of her Non-Italian heritage, but that's fairly unlikely.

You don't think it's less likely that she is fully Italian but looks Horn African?

[Anthropologique]

You don't think it's less likely that she is fully Italian but looks Horn African?

DNA behaves randomly but with her appearance the extra-Euro-admixture would have to be recent (last couple of centuries).

[Sikeliot]

DNA behaves randomly but with her appearance the extra-Euro-admixture would have to be recent (last couple of centuries).

Like honestly the chance of someone being full Italian and looking like this is just insane to me:

http://cdn3-www.realitytea.com/wp-content/new-uploads/2011/07/gorga_melissa_before.png

[Gaston]

She can't be fully Italian. In the Old World, she would fit in Sudan or something.

[Prince Carlo]

Typical New Jersey "Italian".

[Hess]

Like honestly the chance of someone being full Italian and looking like this is just insane to me:

http://cdn3-www.realitytea.com/wp-content/new-uploads/2011/07/gorga_melissa_before.png

to be fair, that's probably the most racially unflattering picture of her one can find. She looks more in line with Italian phenotypes in the overwhelming majority of her other pics.

[Übermensch]

She looks caucasoid metrhically,small med, nothing negroid about her, whole pass in Spain,Portougal,Magreb,Egypt,The Levant,Arabia...
Her byzigomatic,forehead,eyesockets area,nose,jaw looks 100% med, the only african thing is pherpas the skin tone V and the black curly hair, as well the black eyes.

[Chrissi]

Ofc she is mixed could even pass as mulotto mixed with Ethiopian that is. Im confused how some people find signs of admixture in some fully european people but it's the opposite with someone who has clearly uneuropean feautures apparently. She definitely has a Dominican/Puerto Rican vibe some of that sort. Leona Lewis i.e is mulatto and she looks even less Negroid than her I think.
http://i2.listal.com/image/1365971/600full-leona-lewis.jpg

[Sikeliot]

to be fair, that's probably the most racially unflattering picture of her one can find. She looks more in line with Italian phenotypes in the overwhelming majority of her other pics.


It's also one of her most natural photos.

[Tooting Carmen]

She is clearly mulatta. She actually looks more overtly part-Black than some of the councillors in Santa Marta, Colombia: http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?99618-Classify-these-councillors-from-Santa-Marta-Magdalena-Colombia&highlight=santa+marta

[Eurokat]

You don't think it's less likely that she is fully Italian but looks Horn African?

She looks absolutely nothing like Horner the best bet is some type of med mulatta.

[Eurokat]

Her natural hair texture is the most common amng mulattas. I've never seen. fully European that type of hair texture. and it's not just curly Euro hair.

[Black Wolf]

I suppose she could be fully Italian but personally I think she is probably mixed with some sort of African ancestry.

[randomguy1235]

She looks caucasoid metrhically,small med, nothing negroid about her, whole pass in Spain,Portougal,Magreb,Egypt,The Levant,Arabia...
Her byzigomatic,forehead,eyesockets area,nose,jaw looks 100% med, the only african thing is pherpas the skin tone V and the black curly hair, as well the black eyes.

I can at least say from first-hand experience that she would NOT pass here. She looks quite apparently admixed. If not, then she's extremely atypical phenotypically given her supposed ancestry

[Anthropologique]

Nihilist up to his old tricks. "Pass in Spain and Portugal" :jump0000::jump0000::jump0000:

^^

Nihilist, you're too friggin obvious, moron! 16 going on 9?

[StonyArabia]

She would look alien among Ethnic Arabians. She would stand out like sore thumb or be seen as an admixed immigrant. She can pass as Soctoran though.

[MINARDOWICZ]

She is clearly admixed... My mom watches this and well *blush* I do sometimes as well. I always say she looks like Tia or Tamera btw... so funny you do too! Funny to see that you agree on this! I think it is kind of freaky how we are like-minded in may ways! XD. This lady confuses me every time I see her... She looks like a modern Egyptian to me... with some slight SSA admixture...

[Peyrol]

I USA you can be everything and the oddest and most exotic (selfdeclared) ''italians'' are italian-americans...so...

[Hadouken]

back then in another thread i said that she isnt mixed probably

but i changed my mind dramatically ....i must have been blind lol

she looks ssa influenced indeed

either she had a grandgrandparent or something who was black or part black and it is showing in her now (skipping generations) or the mother cheated

there are no other possibilities

[MINARDOWICZ]

I USA you can be everything and the oddest and most exotic (selfdeclared) ''italians'' are italian-americans...so...

So true... they blame it on the Italian ;). LOL

[Styrian Mujo]

Nothing exotic about her she is obviously pred. Neolithic Med.

[Tooting Carmen]

Nothing exotic about her she is obviously pred. Neolithic Med.

ROFL!

[Styrian Mujo]

ROFL!
Whats funny? Italians are pure Neolithic Meditteranids,they had no MENA input since the neolithic duh...

[Roy]

Nothing exotic about her she is obviously pred. Neolithic Med.

ugh

[Peyrol]

This is a med, not Mrs.Gorga:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Y8TYObzOpfA/UelFptDDOxI/AAAAAAAAH2I/QNQrYCKpM3Y/s1600/500px-Elisabetta_Canalis_66%C3%A8me_Festival_de_Venise_% 28Mostra%29.jpg

[Styrian Mujo]

I was trolling btw.

[Peyrol]

I was trolling btw.

Yep but many people would take your post seriourly. :cool:

[Luchon20102012]

Clearly mixed with black. There is no single italian (not even in the extreme darkest areas) who could resemble her.

[Ctwentysevenj]

According this site, they think she is part black

http://atlantablackstar.com/2013/08/13/10-black-actors-who-are-successfully-passing-for-white/2/

[Styrian Mujo]

Pure Italians have been a minority for almost 2000 years and are non-existant nowadays.

[Ianus]

If she is full italian i'm full German

[Panormus]

She is mixed for sure

[Ctwentysevenj]

She is certainly mixed.

[Ctwentysevenj]

There is so much about on the Internet because it is obvious she is mixed.

[Ulla]

If she is full italian i'm full German

I suspected you were from Goteborg.

[quaquaraqua]

She clearly shows black ancestry in some photos! Bill Gosby admix!!

[Immortal Technique]

Mixed....

[Ulla]

She looks Somali or Ethiopian to me..

and her daughter looks mixed.

http://cdn.blogs.babble.com/famecrawler/files/real-housewives-nj/8a2d7b62011211e2ab4c22000a1d0350_7.jpg

She is clearly mixed, recent or ancient admixture I don't know. Anyway Somalia, Ethiopia and Eritrea were Italian colonies. Many Italian males mixed with local females since late 800s. And many Somalis, Etritreans and Ethiopians got the Italian citizenship and passport even with Italian surnames (and they were well integrated).

[Ulla]

Another Italian-American of Southern origin that looks a little bit more Puerto-Rican.

http://www.superiorpics.com/pictures2/6293_ferlit51995.jpg

http://www.taaz.com/images/B10F12B982D41802E3208B7D5ED5CC0B.jpg

http://www.sharewallpapers.org/d/252008-1/Vanessa+Ferlito+019+1600x1200.jpg

[Sikeliot]

^ clearly mixed

[Insuperable]

An intruder.


http://b-13peerreview.blogspot.com/2013/12/b-13-peer-review-year-in-review.html
:laugh:

[Petry]

Do people in the US think someone like that can be full Italian? :rolleyes2:

[arkas]

I think she has a-typical features but she actually has the exact same phenotype as an Italian friend of mine, except she's a female version. Maybe she is one of the very very few Italians that actually does have relatively recent North African ancestry, but her look is definately a-typical. I can see her natural hair texture is very curly, which also makes her a more African admixed look.

[Latinus]

We need a genetic test of this woman.
I honestly can't perceive her as fully Italian, very exotic.