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liamliam
06-09-2013, 09:25 AM
I was told by numerous members that this man could very easily pass as being fully German, British, Irish, Spanish, Portuguese, French, Italian as well as being from many other places in Central Europe. Personally, I very much disagree, I think he looks very south eastern European/central-eastern European, and I can't really see him passing as being Spanish/Portuguese or as English/Scottish/Welsh/Irish at all. His features look much more Eastern than Western European to me. I can see him passing in Romania, Albania, Ukraine, Bulgaria, Hungary, Bosnia, Serbia, Macedonia and even Turkey & possibly Georgia. Do you disagree or agree?

http://foto.ekolay.net/images/galeri2/galeri_11152/Goran_Visnjic_l.jpg

http://www.movie-roulette.com/photos_big/the-deep-end-6-1.jpeg

http://content9.flixster.com/photo/14/03/93/14039379_ori.jpg

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdot9qlUFG1rw5phjo1_1280.jpg

http://goranvisnjic.net/wp-content/blogs.dir/20/2011/10/23/04/Goran_Visnjic_268.jpg

http://images.starpulse.com/pictures/2012/11/13/previews/Goran%20Visnjic-TYG-033294.jpg

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljk2fwINqi1qj1sazo1_r2_400.jpg

http://www.nextmovie.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/goran-visnjic-300.jpg

http://dev.celebritygossip.com/public/celebrity_pictures/goran_visnjic_1588_1.jpg

http://pagetopremiere.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/goran_visnjic.jpg?9d7bd4

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/418381_293341277403881_1667773051_n.jpg

http://jerzygirl45.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/goran-48.jpg

His height is 6'4.

YeshAtid
06-09-2013, 09:30 AM
dark irish perhaps

Mans not hot
06-09-2013, 09:31 AM
He look unmistakably Croatian.

YeshAtid
06-09-2013, 09:33 AM
He look unmistakably Croatian.

I could imagine him in north and west europe

Insuperable
06-09-2013, 09:38 AM
Of course he can't pass

liamliam
06-09-2013, 09:39 AM
I could imagine him in north and west europe

I'm sorry but I don't think he could pass for a multitude of reasons:

1. Spaniards, Italians & the Portuguese tend to be much shorter
2. His face is very eastern looking, and he does not have western European traits imo, yes there are some western Europeans who might look slightly like him, but his features are different, eg his eye/nose shape
3. His darker skin/hair is another thing that would mean he would probably not pass somewhere like Belgium or Germany, or Scotland

liamliam
06-09-2013, 10:00 AM
bump

Archduke
06-09-2013, 10:02 AM
He looks Southeastern European. Wouldn't mistake him for a Westerner.

Amun
06-09-2013, 10:20 AM
I think he looks very Croatian. He can pass also as Italian.

Lobotomist
06-09-2013, 10:24 AM
I could imagine him in north and west europe

North Europe - no.

liamliam
06-09-2013, 10:30 AM
North Europe - no.

I don't feel he could pass in Western Europe either really, if he was walking down the road in Barcelona, most people would not assume him to be of Iberian ancestry, come on now, he looks very south eastern European/Balkan. Same thing goes for France, if he was walking in, I don't know, Lyon, most people would not assume him to be a native. Yes they often have olive skin and dark hair, but their features are very different. I think people in Turkey would probably assume him to be a native before French people would. And also, his nose and eyes don't look really Italian to me. Maybe he could pass there but he would be atypical imo. But he certainly doesn't look German, or Scottish.

riverman
06-09-2013, 10:32 AM
I would most likely guess Italian irl. That being said there are more Italians around here than Croatians, not really familiar with their look

Insuperable
06-09-2013, 10:38 AM
@liam

I do not know how much you know about Croatian look, but does he look very Croatian to you?

liamliam
06-09-2013, 10:57 AM
I would most likely guess Italian irl. That being said there are more Italians around here than Croatians, not really familiar with their look

Imo though, 6'4 would be rather tall for an Italian, in my experience most of them tend to be shorter than that, I don't think I've ever met an Italian that tall. I don't think his look would be that alien in north western Turkey, to be honest:

http://www.fanoos.com/ia/gokhan_tepe.jpg

http://www.resimbul.com/sonuc/d/cagatay-ulusoy/cagatay-ulusoy-posteri/cagatay-ulusoy-posteri-a532c1.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-swoOc97pRxw/UZt2XGap39I/AAAAAAAAAdA/Cz7mFRQMoQg/s1600/hazal-kaya-d%C3%BCz+sa%C3%A7.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-swoOc97pRxw/UZt2XGap39I/AAAAAAAAAdA/Cz7mFRQMoQg/s1600/hazal-kaya-d%C3%BCz+sa%C3%A7.jpg

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2103/2437189095_216ac9522a.jpg

http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-prn1/c67.33.417.417/s160x160/61437_370959996330643_1695048768_n.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSW3QQBiDwnuk5EcULLoWUi4XbuQaw07 XSNVcjp0VagkZsh4mWP

liamliam
06-09-2013, 11:00 AM
@liam

I do not know how much you know about Croatian look, but does he look very Croatian to you?

Yes, he looks Croatian imo, but I also think he could quite easily pass as being from many other south-eastern European countries, and possibly Turkey and even Georgia too.

Insuperable
06-09-2013, 11:08 AM
Yes, he looks Croatian imo, but I also think he could quite easily pass as being from many other south-eastern European countries, and possibly Turkey and even Georgia too.

So, considering your post(s) I ask: To whom does an average Croat looks closer to an average French or an average Turk?

liamliam
06-09-2013, 11:34 AM
So, considering your post(s) I ask: To whom does an average Croat looks closer to an average French or an average Turk?

I'd say it probably varies, but in my opinion, they have that eastern European look to them, I can't really describe it but I haven't met any French or western European people with the same 'look' if that makes sense. I guess most Croatian people look like a mix between the two, but they probably lean towards looking slightly more similar to those from Turkey with lighter pigmentation.

French people:

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Observer/Pix/pictures/2009/3/20/1237549411814/Vincent-Cassel-in-Toronto-001.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTjJF2sUUebkbcrQIbAQHGkwNoHus9V0 kLunrIYZRrOta8zkSiW869VyICE

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcReHYmJU5wM6xhwmmZ640GrGuTm65H0G qY0JplXclEiqg65fqFV3g

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQKXsZgf4PfoFMEgQNFrkMNjI_W0TzI_ n0m2xWIC9DtVnpjR4b97A

http://static.igossip.com/photos_2/march_2011/leslie_caron_gigi_black_white.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3651/3394691438_b514e211a8.jpg

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8cg7agkPg1r9wa70o1_1280.jpg

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/71009964/Vanessa+Paradis.png

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_iS2IM5f8IXo/TThkRiP3GqI/AAAAAAAAAlw/37JacOuDahE/s640/Brigitte-Bardot-Ted-designer.jpg

http://romantiqueandrebel.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Laetitia-Casta.jpg

Croatians:

http://static0.demotix.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/a_scale_large/1200-7/photos/1340055555-croatian-football-fans-watch-the-match-against-spain--zagreb_1286087.jpg

http://static2.demotix.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/a_scale_large/1200-4/photos/1340055548-croatian-football-fans-watch-the-match-against-spain--zagreb_1286074.jpg

http://static1.demotix.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/a_scale_large/1200-6/photos/1339360951-croatian-football-fans-watch-the-match-against-ireland_1267836.jpg

http://e0.365dm.com/12/06/660x350/Croatia-fans-Group-C-Italy-Euro-2012_2780676.jpg?20120614170244

http://www.hdfbcover.com/randomcovers/covers/croatia-football-team-fbcover-euro-2012.jpg

http://data.whicdn.com/images/8295546/croatian-football-girls_420x315_large.jpg

http://static2.demotix.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/a_scale_large/1200-0/photos/1267860.jpg

http://static2.dmcdn.net/static/video/888/704/46407888:jpeg_preview_large.jpg?20120620004113

http://news.images.itv.com/image/file/43248/image_update_2868b3101b8dcbd2_1339358775_9j-4aaqsk.jpeg

http://static2.demotix.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/a_scale_large/1200-3/photos/1267843.jpg

They just in general, have a rather different look to people from Eastern/south Eastern Europe, they tend to have fuller lips, a different eye shape, and a different nose shape.

liamliam
06-09-2013, 11:55 AM
Turkish people:

http://theoriginalwinger.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/turkish_football_fans_girls.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/06/25/article-1029461-01BE440200000578-952_468x681.jpg

http://sportige.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Turkey-Fans.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRqHMiSGgOAxoNQ10n-f0sU28U7eTpBMOxdwCggSFh7TBTVao_8

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTsZ8zja7ELIfdPEuX1CLezmSM2UxYRs FqSsyVcy5VqV0cBIHT0

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/SPORT/Pix/pictures/2011/9/20/1316512297043/Besiktas-007.jpg

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/images/news/201304/n_45843_4.jpg

http://www.ulusalkanal.com.tr/images/album/13_5.jpg

Insuperable
06-09-2013, 12:09 PM
Look. I know that there is a stereotype of French being darker Western Europeans which is bullshit and as I have said Visnjic obviously can not pass as French, but to say that an average Croat looks closer to an Turk than French... I know that you are also talking about features, but still. By Croats here I am talking about proper Croats from Croatia and not Morlach, Vlach Croats from Bosnia and Herzegovina (except those from central Bosnia) and some part of Dalmatia who really have this south eastern features way more pronounced and which I can spot from a mile away. I do find it a little hypocritical posting random "everyday" group pictures of Croats while you represent French with individuals (actors and models).

Some graduation in southern Croatia. Obviously there are always some atypical people.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be6bmNpQFMg

8050
06-09-2013, 12:31 PM
In my opinion he can pass in Spain,France and Italy,to some extent in Ireland and Belgium too.
liamliam i supposed that you have never been in Italy,otherwise you can't say that they are short,Central or North parts especially.Atlanto-Med,Dinarid or Dinarized-Med are types with medium to tall height and very common there.

Mirko
06-09-2013, 12:48 PM
In my opinion he can pass in Spain,France and Italy,to some extent in Ireland and Belgium too.
liamliam i supposed that you have never been in Italy,otherwise you can't say that they are short,Central or North parts especially.Atlanto-Med,Dinarid or Dinarized-Med are types with medium to tall height and very common there.
I agree. I'm 6.2 feet tall, two of my friends are 6.4, my grandfather was 6.2... :picard1:

CaralloCoCan
06-09-2013, 12:52 PM
He could pass anywhere in the european contienent (Maybe not extreme North but in all the mediterranean and central Europe for sure)

liamliam
06-09-2013, 01:01 PM
In my opinion he can pass in Spain,France and Italy,to some extent in Ireland and Belgium too.
liamliam i supposed that you have never been in Italy,otherwise you can't say that they are short,Central or North parts especially.Atlanto-Med,Dinarid or Dinarized-Med are types with medium to tall height and very common there.

:picard2: good grief, have you ever been to Ireland?! No I'm sorry, but he would not be able to pass as a native in Ireland, and as someone who has also been to Belguim, Spain and France I highly doubt he could pass there either. Most Irish people have very pale skin (some of the palest in the whole of Europe) not to mention they have Western European features, not eastern ones, also his look is just not one that would be common here at all.

Goran:
http://static.tvfanatic.com/files/goran-visnjic-pic.jpg

http://jerzygirl45.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/goran.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSLdFWjTrihjHiVeSyb7c4AaCECwBsIW OeCBenftG0bZX0iYEja

http://content9.flixster.com/photo/14/03/93/14039379_ori.jpg

http://www.nextmovie.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/goran-visnjic-300.jpg

http://goranvisnjic.net/wp-content/blogs.dir/20/2011/10/23/04/Goran_Visnjic_268.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRFBnG_J7AvEf8FZO03nTJ9F6QHZd6Ex voQr5371JvyktpHXVbf

Irish people:

http://static3.demotix.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/a_scale_large/1200-3/photos/1340055283-irish-football-fans-enjoy-euro-2012-ahead-of-italy-match--poznan_1286073.jpg

http://static4.demotix.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/a_scale_large/1200-4/photos/1340055268-irish-football-fans-enjoy-euro-2012-ahead-of-italy-match--poznan_1286104.jpg

http://rt.com/files/sport/football/irish-fans-euro-2012-118/ireland-fans-euro-2012.jpg


http://www.theepochtimes.com/news_images/highres/2006-2-13-irish_troops.jpg
Sorry but most people would not assume him to be fully Irish, it's not even really a matter of hair colour, or even skin colour, it's his features that make him look very Croatian, and certainly not Belgian or Irish.

Sisak
06-09-2013, 01:10 PM
You're a little replaced terms, you must understand the difference between Eastern and Southern Europe.

Mirko
06-09-2013, 01:11 PM
If Ronnie Drew of The Dubliners can pass as Irish, this guy can pass too! 34504

Insuperable
06-09-2013, 01:30 PM
Wow, Liam, his skin is really dark

http://static.tvfanatic.com/files/goran-visnjic-pic.jpg

http://jerzygirl45.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/goran.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSLdFWjTrihjHiVeSyb7c4AaCECwBsIW OeCBenftG0bZX0iYEja

http://content9.flixster.com/photo/14/03/93/14039379_ori.jpg

I heard he did Michael Jackson surgery type after shooting those photos

http://imageshack.us/a/img33/7308/24843852.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img607/7682/goranvisnjicdisneyabcte.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img707/7213/goranvisnjic1.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img16/3654/goranvisnjicredwidowfil.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img29/6299/ddduo.png
http://imageshack.us/a/img109/8742/100803goran600.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img16/9476/image22059.jpg

RussiaPrussia
06-09-2013, 01:34 PM
looks welsh particular to me

riverman
06-09-2013, 01:35 PM
looks welsh particular to me



No, he doesn't really look welsh

liamliam
06-09-2013, 01:35 PM
If Ronnie Drew of The Dubliners can pass as Irish, this guy can pass too! 34504

http://itsthedubliners.com/images/obits/rd_07.jpg

He still looks more Irish than Goran, his look is quite a common one in Ireland, as is his eye shape, smile and nose. Many Irish people look like him.
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01434/Dara_O_Briain_1434808c.jpg

http://1.2.3.13/bmi/img.getglue.com/recording_artists/liam_gallagher/normal.jpg

http://1.2.3.9/bmi/farm9.staticflickr.com/8125/8659597316_2e2142f6c2.jpg

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/51715000/jpg/_51715004_000094163-1.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/3645P.jpg

http://sandystrachan.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/father-dougal-mcguire.jpg

http://i2.cdnds.net/12/08/300x225/soaps_hollyoaks_brendan_brady.jpg

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/1/21/1358775426470/Paddy-McGuinness-008.jpg

Even though most of these men are dark haired, they have a very different look to Goran imo, they would probably fit in Iberia and France, but not Croatia. Goran just has a completely different look.

liamliam
06-09-2013, 01:38 PM
Wow, Liam, his skin is really dark

http://static.tvfanatic.com/files/goran-visnjic-pic.jpg

http://jerzygirl45.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/goran.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSLdFWjTrihjHiVeSyb7c4AaCECwBsIW OeCBenftG0bZX0iYEja

http://content9.flixster.com/photo/14/03/93/14039379_ori.jpg

I heard he did Michael Jackson surgery type after shooting those photos

http://imageshack.us/a/img33/7308/24843852.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img607/7682/goranvisnjicdisneyabcte.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img707/7213/goranvisnjic1.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img16/3654/goranvisnjicredwidowfil.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img29/6299/ddduo.png
http://imageshack.us/a/img109/8742/100803goran600.jpg

It's not his skin colour that makes him look non-Belgian/Irish, it's his facial features okay. The length of the tip of his nose and it's robustness, his eye shape, the thinness and shape of his lips, his smile, I just wouldn't say he has a common look here in Ireland. I'm sorry but that's my opinion, and I know what Irish people look like! I would probably sooner guess him to be from the near east than I would guess him to be from Belgium, such as Georgia, northern Turkey etc. People like Croatians and all Europeans though in Ireland, so it's not like he would receive racism or anything of course, it's just I don't feel he looks stereotypically Irish, not that there's anything wrong with that.

Insuperable
06-09-2013, 01:47 PM
It's not his skin colour that makes him look non-Belgian/Irish, it's his facial features okay. The length of the tip of his nose and it's robustness, his eye shape, the thinness and shape of his lips, his smile, I just wouldn't say he has a common look here in Ireland. I'm sorry but that's my opinion, and I know what Irish people look like! I would probably sooner guess him to be from the near east than I would guess him to be from Belgium, such as Georgia, northern Turkey etc. People like Croatians and all Europeans though in Ireland, so it's not like he would receive racism or anything of course, it's just I don't feel he looks stereotypically Irish, not that there's anything wrong with that.

Did I say he looks Western European? Did I say he looks Irish at all? Do you remember my first post? My post has nothing to do with me claiming that. His nose is atypical here also btw. Regarding lips and smile do you think should his glans be different?

liamliam
06-09-2013, 01:49 PM
looks welsh particular to me

then so does she:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/shows/in-concert/katie-melua/media/katie-melua-430x250.jpg

http://www.christiegoodwin.com/gallery/large/Katie%20Melua%20portrait%203.jpg

http://st.gdefon.ru/wallpapers_original/actors/69959_kyeti-melua_or_katie-melua_1600x1200_(www.GdeFon.ru).jpg

CaralloCoCan
06-09-2013, 01:53 PM
Not all the Irish people are hooligans and uglies...there are also good-looking Irish people.... In my opinion He looks more irish (or black irish or whatever you want to define a non-hooligan ugly irish) than Iberian...

liamliam
06-09-2013, 01:56 PM
Not all the Irish people are hooligans and uglies...there are also good-looking Irish people.... In my opinion He looks more irish (or black irish or whatever you want to define a non-hooligan ugly irish) than Iberian...

He looks like neither imo, I would guess him to be either Croatian, Romanian, southern Ukrainian, Bulgarian, Macedonian, Serbian, Bosnian, Hungarian or possibly Northern Turkish. Not German, Belgian, Spanish, Portuguese, French or British/Irish.

WOOHP
06-09-2013, 03:58 PM
In my opinion he can pass in Spain,France and Italy,to some extent in Ireland and Belgium too.
liamliam i supposed that you have never been in Italy,otherwise you can't say that they are short,Central or North parts especially.Atlanto-Med,Dinarid or Dinarized-Med are types with medium to tall height and very common there.

In France, Belgium and Ireland as an immigrant for sure.

His pigmentation isn't atypical for Spain but his phentotype is. He wouldn't fit well there either.
Italy on the other hand. He could fit, but somewhat atypical.

liamliam
06-09-2013, 04:03 PM
In France, Belgium and Ireland as an immigrant for sure.

His pigmentation isn't atypical for Spain but his phentotype is. He wouldn't fit well there either.
Italy on the other hand. He could fit, but somewhat atypical.

finally someone who agrees with me! He just has a non-western European look to him, I just cannot see him being fully German, I'm sorry but it would be impossible. Italian, possibly, Croatian of course, and he would pass very easily in the countries surrounding Croatia. But Wales, England, Belgium etc, he just wouldn't.
I'm sorry but this is just not a common Belgian/Irish/German look, and anyone who says it is, is clearly very ignorant imo.

http://1.2.3.13/bmi/goranvisnjic.net/wp-content/blogs.dir/20/2011/10/23/04/Goran_Visnjic_268.jpg

RussiaPrussia
06-09-2013, 04:07 PM
No, he doesn't really look welsh

cuz some welsh look middle eastern its a fact they robbed some wog girls during vikking times

liamliam
06-09-2013, 04:11 PM
cuz some welsh look middle eastern its a fact they robbed some wog girls during vikking times

God, you're such a troll :picard2: and dark Welsh people, do not look middle eastern, rather they look very Spanish/Portuguese and sometimes French/Italian. And 'robbing' would have no effect on dna or procreation, anyway it's been proven that Irish & Welsh and to a smaller but still large extent Scottish and English people share much DNA with the Iberian's and French, much more so than with any other group in Europe or the world.

Insuperable
06-09-2013, 04:12 PM
finally someone who agrees with me! He just has a non-western European look to him, I just cannot see him being fully German, I'm sorry but it would be impossible. Italian, possibly, Croatian of course, and he would pass very easily in the countries surrounding Croatia. But Wales, England, Belgium etc, he just wouldn't.
I'm sorry but this is just not a common Belgian/Irish/German look, and anyone who says it is, is clearly very ignorant imo.

http://1.2.3.13/bmi/goranvisnjic.net/wp-content/blogs.dir/20/2011/10/23/04/Goran_Visnjic_268.jpg

Why do you feel sorry all the time?

8050
06-09-2013, 04:15 PM
:picard2: good grief, have you ever been to Ireland?! No I'm sorry, but he would not be able to pass as a native in Ireland, and as someone who has also been to Belguim, Spain and France I highly doubt he could pass there either. Most Irish people have very pale skin (some of the palest in the whole of Europe) not to mention they have Western European features, not eastern ones, also his look is just not one that would be common here at all.

Nope in Ireland and Belgium never,in the rest of the countries 2-3 times,that's why i said i'm not sure about these 2 countries.Maybe you are right.Finally i was speaking about the height in Italy..

8050
06-09-2013, 04:16 PM
In France, Belgium and Ireland as an immigrant for sure.

His pigmentation isn't atypical for Spain but his phentotype is. He wouldn't fit well there either.
Italy on the other hand. He could fit, but somewhat atypical.

Of course he can fit well in France,for Spain i agree,not the most common phenotype but can pass somehow.

liamliam
06-09-2013, 04:30 PM
Of course he can fit well in France,for Spain i agree,not the most common phenotype but can pass somehow.

In my opinion, no he could not. He doesn't look French or Spanish. It's quite obvious. If he said 'I am 100% Spanish/French' then maybe I might believe him, but still I would probably think he was south eastern European.

liamliam
06-09-2013, 04:33 PM
Why do you feel sorry all the time?

It's a figure of speech in Ireland and Britain :picard2:

Mirko
06-09-2013, 04:35 PM
It's a figure of speech in Ireland and Britain :picard2:

the same here! :)

Insuperable
06-09-2013, 04:36 PM
It's a figure of speech in Ireland and Britain :picard2:

Wow, you don't say. It is an expression everywhere. I had in mind something totally different though. I will then just assume you don't mean that.

Sisak
06-09-2013, 04:39 PM
I think he is very handsome. In this Madonna's video looks like human-vampire, very hot!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90OQm4BmwJ4

Duke
06-09-2013, 05:16 PM
Nope

WOOHP
06-09-2013, 05:48 PM
Of course he can fit well in France,for Spain i agree,not the most common phenotype but can pass somehow.

As an Balkan immigrant sure. Why would he fit better in France than in Spain?

Duke
06-09-2013, 05:52 PM
As an Balkan immigrant sure. Why would he fit better in France than in Spain?

he cant, i was in france and spain, he lacks gracile med component that is typical in france and spain in various degrees

WOOHP
06-09-2013, 06:19 PM
he cant, i was in france and spain, he lacks gracile med component that is typical in france and spain in various degrees

Adding Gracile Med wouldn't make him fit better in France.

Duke
06-09-2013, 06:27 PM
Adding Gracile Med wouldn't make him fit better in France.

it would certanly be step in right direction.

Majority of French have that component

WOOHP
06-09-2013, 06:43 PM
it would certanly be step in right direction.

Majority of French have that component

Oh really?

liamliam
06-09-2013, 06:57 PM
I think the fact he does not look western European is even more obvious on video:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFZsza5glys

Sisak
07-04-2013, 10:37 AM
I think he had to invent some sort of easy to remember stage surname. I am not sure how easy it is to remember his last name for the English speakears or any other foreginers.

riverman
07-04-2013, 11:51 AM
I was told by numerous members that this man could very easily pass as being fully German, British, Irish, Spanish, Portuguese, French, Italian as well as being from many other places in Central Europe. Personally, I very much disagree, I think he looks very south eastern European/central-eastern European, and I can't really see him passing as being Spanish/Portuguese or as English/Scottish/Welsh/Irish at all. His features look much more Eastern than Western European to me. I can see him passing in Romania, Albania, Ukraine, Bulgaria, Hungary, Bosnia, Serbia, Macedonia and even Turkey & possibly Georgia. Do you disagree or agree?




He doesn't look Ukrainian.

le penalty
07-04-2013, 04:56 PM
Fit very well in france, i see darker guy everyday here ! Nothing strange about him, Don't listen Dollce ,he think french look like scandinavian.

aherne
07-04-2013, 05:58 PM
He looks Yugoslav (which is what he is). Atypical everywhere else. At most, he passes in Northern Italy and Romania...

liamliam
07-04-2013, 07:24 PM
He looks Yugoslav (which is what he is). Atypical everywhere else. At most, he passes in Northern Italy and Romania...

Yeah, I knew a Yugoslavian guy who looked quite a lot like him.

rashka
07-05-2013, 01:59 AM
They just in general, have a rather different look to people from Eastern/south Eastern Europe, they tend to have fuller lips, a different eye shape, and a different nose shape.
Who has fuller lips?

liamliam
07-05-2013, 03:49 PM
Who has fuller lips?

Western europeans, imo.

Insuperable
07-05-2013, 03:55 PM
Western europeans, imo.

Generalization

WOOHP
07-05-2013, 03:59 PM
Fit very well in france, i see darker guy everyday here ! Nothing strange about him, Don't listen Dollce ,he think french look like scandinavian.

It's not about him being dark. It's his overall look which is eastern to me. Understood?

liamliam
07-05-2013, 04:05 PM
Generalization

I said 'tend to' not 'all'. That's not a generalization, it's an observation.

Insuperable
07-05-2013, 04:11 PM
I said 'tend to' not 'all'. That's not a generalization, it's an observation.

Tend to is also a generalization for such a thing to say. I always perceived Western Europeans especially Brits to be thin lipped. Since you do not think the same I can conclude we are generalizing.

liamliam
07-05-2013, 04:34 PM
Tend to is also a generalization for such a thing to say. I always perceived Western Europeans especially Brits to be thin lipped. Since you do not think the same I can conclude we are generalizing.

some western european examples:

http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/PA-Photos_t_Sara-Carbonero-sexy-football-WAG-Hampden-photos-Casillas-1310b.jpg
http://img1.cfstatic.com/wallpapers/7c9b0cb6be268d97bb75c0c48a0c63ff_large.jpeg
http://community.remedygames.com/picture.php?albumid=20&pictureid=102
http://imworld.aufeminin.com/breves/D20081218/Emma-de-Caunes-5-125838_XL.jpg
http://www.picturechina.com.cn/bbs/watermark.php?YXR0YWNobWVudHMvZGF5XzEwMTEwOS8xMDEx MDkyMTMzZjNiMWZkOWViZTUzNzA3Yy5qcGc=
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-GCw4QyD0G6s/Tif3EjakdmI/AAAAAAAAA4Y/tXo1Z3FRG7I/s1600/CaronLeslie1.jpg
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4slffSXjN1qmhggvo1_500.jpg
http://www.1920x1200.net/posts/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/audrey_tautou_1920_1200_jul152011.jpg
http://i2.listal.com/image/1331469/936full-antonio-banderas.jpg
http://www.celebs101.com/wallpapers/Keira_Knightley/136436/keira1811920x1440.jpg
http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/jonathan-rhys-meyers.jpg
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT1qsV8GgOqzlJBcI48EQiRaDZLx8MGx UyqcK9Oa-6OM_zHIlI
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQPjEHBsA_qKCKMxSrOyKfExAkqxQrzo I5UuzAA3ymVW4jzU9pGrg
http://www.mailce.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/brigite.jpg
http://goout.cz/i/025/259088-800.jpg
http://fileserver.glam.com/glampress/beauty/slideshows/Kate-Moss-Brunette.jpg
http://images.ok.co.uk/dynamic/3/451x567/58490_1.jpg

Twistedmind
07-05-2013, 04:49 PM
This thread is epic bullshit. Višnjić could pass as German or Austrian with no priblem. All his darkness is black hair.

Insuperable
07-05-2013, 04:54 PM
...

Thanks for proving my point!

riverman
07-05-2013, 05:11 PM
I don't know how western European he looks, I just know what he doesn't look like, if I had to guess where he's from I'd say Italy or something, so, western look basically.

CrystalMaiden
07-05-2013, 05:14 PM
Looks like a younger version of my dad TBH.

Insuperable
07-05-2013, 05:21 PM
This thread is epic bullshit. Višnjić could pass as German or Austrian with no priblem. All his darkness is black hair.


I don't know how western European he looks, I just know what he doesn't look like, if I had to guess where he's from I'd say Italy or something, so, western look basically.

I do not think he would pass as Austrian or German or French and he is somewhat atypical even for our neighboring Italy since as people said he has specific Croatian look. I clearly said he does not look western European, not even close. I was only arguing with Liam because according to him there is a large chance he could be mistaken for a Turk or Georgian more likely rather than French.

riverman
07-05-2013, 05:28 PM
I do not think he would pass as Austrian or German or French and he is atypical even for our neighboring Italy since as people said he has specific Croatian look. I clearly said he does not look western European, not even close. I was only arguing with Liam because according to him there is a large chance he could be mistaken for a Turk or Georgian more likely rather than French.


O.k. great, then Croatia and some other similar places specifically then, he doesn't look Slavic at all.

Twistedmind
07-05-2013, 05:49 PM
I do not think he would pass as Austrian or German or French and he is somewhat atypical even for our neighboring Italy since as people said he has specific Croatian look. I clearly said he does not look western European, not even close. I was only arguing with Liam because according to him there is a large chance he could be mistaken for a Turk or Georgian more likely rather than French.

Most of Croats dont fit in Italy. (Not about pigmentation its about different gennetics, climate etc). Also there is no some particular resemblence between Germans and Italians. Dont really see a point in pulling Italy as some argument about it. Concerning liam, lol its man who said Shakira look Ukrainian :D

liamliam
07-05-2013, 08:35 PM
Most of Croats dont fit in Italy. (Not about pigmentation its about different gennetics, climate etc). Also there is no some particular resemblence between Germans and Italians. Dont really see a point in pulling Italy as some argument about it. Concerning liam, lol its man who said Shakira look Ukrainian :D

So could you tell me why, this Polish woman looks so much like her?

Ola Jordan and Shakira comparison:

http://www.clickceleb.com/pictures/10000/1933/33446.jpghttp://img3.oferia.pl/94026a0936c69a71366822c50b4d1c04_1000_1000_0_1.jpg http://www.contactmusic.com/pics/lf/pride_of_britain_awards_27_301012/ola-jordan-the-daily-mirror-pride-of_4151897.jpghttp://royalepost.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Shakira-Isabel-13.jpghttp://fabzz.com/wp-content/uploads/celebrities/ola-jordan/in-boux-avenue-christmas-lingerie-photoshoot-2012/Ola%20Jordan%20in%20Lingerie%20-03.jpghttp://www.starnostar.com/data/images/who-is-shakira-is-star-or-no-star-shakira-isabel-mebarak-celebrity-vote.jpghttp://www.enjoythepics.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Ola-Jordan-at-Boux-Avenue-Launch-at-Westfield-2.jpghttp://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/37262435/Shakira+2009WhitneyMuseumGalaCocktailP.jpghttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/_OaYdCFMZlyw/SQ5bhu29DyI/AAAAAAAAF3I/0tvrdjiyJp8/s1600/Ola%2BJordan%2B08.jpghttp://lasthairmodels.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/shakira.jpghttp://www.contactmusic.com/pics/ld/strictly_come_dancing_5_080910/strictly_various_03_wenn2992779.jpghttp://elitefon.ru/images/201302/elitefon.ru_31474.jpghttp://www.desktopstars.ru/md/o/ola-jordan/1680x1050/Ola-Jordan-1680x1050-003.jpg

Please enlighten me as to what the big difference is.

Twistedmind
07-06-2013, 07:51 AM
So could you tell me why, this Polish woman looks so much like her?

Because of use aestethic surgery and artificial hair colour? If we take that two out, there is no similarity at all.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7060/6953992089_8a68a5e6b0_o.jpg

http://www.picgifs.com/wallpapers/celebrities/shakira/wallpaper_shakira_animaatjes-41.jpg

Ianus
04-21-2014, 11:25 AM
Dinarid

Hadouken
04-21-2014, 12:32 PM
he wouldnt pass as native here in germany that much I can tell you

interes
04-21-2014, 12:44 PM
I was told by numerous members that this man could very easily pass as being fully German, British, Irish, Spanish, Portuguese, French, Italian as well as being from many other places in Central Europe. Personally, I very much disagree, I think he looks very south eastern European/central-eastern European, and I can't really see him passing as being Spanish/Portuguese or as English/Scottish/Welsh/Irish at all. His features look much more Eastern than Western European to me. I can see him passing in Romania, Albania, Ukraine, Bulgaria, Hungary, Bosnia, Serbia, Macedonia and even Turkey & possibly Georgia. Do you disagree or agree?

http://foto.ekolay.net/images/galeri2/galeri_11152/Goran_Visnjic_l.jpg

http://www.movie-roulette.com/photos_big/the-deep-end-6-1.jpeg

http://content9.flixster.com/photo/14/03/93/14039379_ori.jpg

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdot9qlUFG1rw5phjo1_1280.jpg

http://goranvisnjic.net/wp-content/blogs.dir/20/2011/10/23/04/Goran_Visnjic_268.jpg

http://images.starpulse.com/pictures/2012/11/13/previews/Goran%20Visnjic-TYG-033294.jpg

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljk2fwINqi1qj1sazo1_r2_400.jpg

http://www.nextmovie.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/goran-visnjic-300.jpg

http://dev.celebritygossip.com/public/celebrity_pictures/goran_visnjic_1588_1.jpg

http://pagetopremiere.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/goran_visnjic.jpg?9d7bd4

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/418381_293341277403881_1667773051_n.jpg

http://jerzygirl45.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/goran-48.jpg

His height is 6'4.

Like more Georgian than Croatian