Do these Cypriots fit best in Greece or Lebanon?

[Sikeliot]

Which do these Cypriots look most?

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[Smeagol]

Lebanon.

[Sikeliot]

Lebanon.

I think because Cypriots have moved abroad as part of the Greek community, we are trained to see their phenotypes as Greek, but when you compare them to other Greeks there is a distinct difference.

[tEhSaint]

They don't look Greek or European. They look what they are, Levantino-turk mix.

EastMed/Anadolid phenotypes predominantly.

[ABest]

They do have a distinct look, just like Pontic Greeks have their own look. They have a Levantine element and would fit in Turkey and the Levant. However, that doesn't make them less Greek at all! ;)

[ariel]

most of them look levantines...

[Sikeliot]

However, that doesn't make them less Greek at all! ;)

The fact that they have as much Levantine DNA as Greek if not more doesn't make them less Greek?

[tEhSaint]

To begin with, they are not Greeks. Their minor European admixture is probably from stolen Greek genes and that's all. In most of the cases, they got 40%++ MENA admixture.

[ariel]

To begin with, they are not Greeks. Their minor European admixture is probably from stolen Greek genes and that's all. In most of the cases, they got 40%++ MENA admixture.

you are not smart like who you thinking my friend.

[StonyArabia]

They look Lebanese, so they fit in Lebanon more than anywhere else. Most of these people would not be seen as White.

[ariel]

They look Lebanese, so they fit in Lebanon more than anywhere else. Most of these people would not be seen as White.

troll troll troll :cool:

[sgillespie]

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[sgillespie]

believe it or not, to me, they just look nothing else than Cypriots. They have their distinctive look that distantiate them from greeks, turks and middle eastern.

[Manuel]

To begin with, they are not Greeks. Their minor European admixture is probably from stolen Greek genes and that's all. In most of the cases, they got 40%++ MENA admixture.

Drama queen...

[tEhSaint]

you are not smart like who you thinking my friend.

I am probably smarter. :cool:

[Newsboy]

Probably leaning towards Lebanon out of those 2 if you're referring to mainland Greece. But IMO these people could also fit in Southern Italy (mainly Calabria and Sicily).

[ABest]

The fact that they have as much Levantine DNA as Greek if not more doesn't make them less Greek?

You do have a point, but I wasn't talking about genetics. Cypriots are Cypriots, they are of course different to Greeks. However, they are culturally and linguistically Greek, which makes them Greek Cypriot and no one can take that ethnicity away from them.

[Sikeliot]

So essentially "Greek" is ethno-cultural more than by blood, then.

[tEhSaint]

You do have a point, but I wasn't talking about genetics. Cypriots are Cypriots, they are of course different to Greeks. However, they are culturally and linguistically Greek, which makes them Greek Cypriot and no one can take that ethnicity away from them.

Basically, they adapted some of our customs and ethics , culture and so on, along with our language (which they raped it) so that they can get all the benefits from being pseudo-euros.

Typical Jew behavior if you ask me.

[tEhSaint]

So essentially "Greek" is ethno-cultural more than by blood, then.

No it isn't. Blood comes first, always.

[ABest]

Basically, they adapted some of our customs and ethics , culture and so on, along with our language (which they raped it) so that they can get all the benefits from being pseudo-euros.

Typical Jew behavior if you ask me.

LOL! :p

Well, it is true that Hellenization of native populations did occur in Cyprus in ancient times, so you are right in terms of that.


So essentially "Greek" is ethno-cultural more than by blood, then.

Genetics and blood are of course important. Genetically, Greek Cypriots and Pontic Greeks are separate from other Greeks. However, they are still distinct Greek communities, even if they have been Hellenized in the past.

[Manuel]

LOL! :p

Well, it is true that Hellenization of native populations did occur in Cyprus in ancient times, so you are right in terms of that.



Now you're being overly anti-Hellenic. The correct way to phrase this is to say that THEY STOLE Greek genes.

[ABest]

Now you're being overly anti-Hellenic. The correct way to phrase this is to say that THEY STOLE Greek genes.

Haha, agreed! :p

[DarkSecret]

No it isn't. Blood comes first, always.

Then leave Cyprus to Turkey my smart friend hahah:D

[Sikeliot]

No it isn't. Blood comes first, always.

Then Calabrese are more Greek than Cypriots despite not speaking Greek anymore :lol:

[tEhSaint]

Then Calabrese are more Greek than Cypriots despite not speaking Greek anymore :lol:

Obviously yes. As far as I am concerned, Cypriots = levanto-turks. I think I have been crystal clear about my position on Cyprus and its population.

[DarkSecret]

Obviously yes. As far as I am concerned, Cypriots = levanto-turks. I think I have been crystal clear about my position on Cyprus and its population.

Yes we should tell them they are Turks and invite to KKTC...

My Cyprus peace plan. Sounds familiar? Hahahahah:D

[Sikeliot]

Obviously yes. As far as I am concerned, Cypriots = levanto-turks. I think I have been crystal clear about my position on Cyprus and its population.

I consider Cypriots to be Greek because of their culture and how they identify, but when discussing typology and anthropology, I do not accept them as a representation of Greece. I.e. if I ask a question like "Which places overlap phenotypically with Greeks?" I do not accept Levant as a valid answer if the only reason someone says that is because they are thinking of Cypriots, since by blood Cypriots ARE Levantine not Greek.

Get what I mean?

[DarkSecret]

And it's so stupid to think that north and south are different races or cultures in such a small island. Actually Turkey and Greece should leave them alone but I am not sure if they will start to eat each other with artificial hatred...

[tEhSaint]

Then leave Cyprus to Turkey my smart friend hahah:D

Not that I care really. :coffee:

But there is no reason for this. First and foremost, Cyprus is for Cypriots and it is an autonomous, independent and recognized country. You can start a war against them anytime you wish. They are small and powerless (or no?). Why so pussy?

Now, why don't you mind your own business by the way, turk? You have some many problems to solve in your country, Cyprus is the least.

[DarkSecret]

Not that I care really. :coffee:

But there is no reason for this. First and foremost, Cyprus is for Cypriots and it is an autonomous, independent and recognized country. You can start a war against them anytime you wish. They are small and powerless (or no?). Why so pussy?

Now, why don't you mind your own business by the way, turk? You have some many problems to solve in your country, Cyprus is the least.

A recognized country with full island land but in fact they have half of it. Why don't you take all of them ,so pussy? Actually I don't have many problems to solve in the country. Protest doesn't affect our lives here.. We just started to protest with standing on the street without move or speaking...Lol

[tEhSaint]

I consider Cypriots to be Greek because of their culture and how they identify, but when discussing typology and anthropology, I do not accept them as a representation of Greece. I.e. if I ask a question like "Which places overlap phenotypically with Greeks?" I do not accept Levant as a valid answer if the only reason someone says that is because they are thinking of Cypriots, since by blood Cypriots ARE Levantine not Greek.

Get what I mean?

Yes.

I am just trying to tell you, that I really don't care about the minor similarities in our culture and how they identify. They are their own race. I see them everyday around, their language so different that I can barely understand shit, they look differently and they behave differently.

They are not Greeks by any means. Their mindset is totally different too.

[tEhSaint]

A recognized country with full island land but in fact they have half of it. Why don't you take all of them ,so pussy?

This shouldn't be Greece's concern, and it isn't. If Cypriots wants their land back they should fight for it.

[DarkSecret]

Yes.

I am just trying to tell you, that I really don't care about the minor similarities in our culture and how they identify. They are their own race. I see them everyday around, their language so different that I can barely understand shit, they look differently and they behave differently.

They are not Greeks by any means. Their mindset is totally different too.

The situation in north Cyprus( Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus)is the same. They don't speak proper Turkish and they are richer and wealthier... Their lifestyle is different...

[tEhSaint]

The situation in north Cyprus( Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus)is the same. They don't speak proper Turkish and they are richer and wealthier... Their lifestyle is different...

Compared to... ? Mainland Turkey, I assume.

[DarkSecret]

This shouldn't be Greece's concern, and it isn't. If Cypriots wants their land back they should fight for it.

I am supporter of fully independent and peaceful Cyprus. However , North and South hate each other and that sounds impossible for now..

[Dombra]

On an island between.

[DarkSecret]

Compared to... ? Mainland Turkey, I assume.

Yeap, of course they are small and they have less population. And they are taking money from Turkey like hell... And they live in heaven. lol...

[Incal]

I am supporter of fully independent and peaceful Cyprus. However , North and South hate each other and that sounds impossible for now..

Not really, that's turkish propaganda actually. My perception was that besides the obvious historical facts, the average cypriot don't really care or has any interest about the north.

[Queen B]

And it's so stupid to think that north and south are different races or cultures in such a small island. Actually Turkey and Greece should leave them alone but I am not sure if they will start to eat each other with artificial hatred...
Greece is not involved actually. Its not Greece which occupies illegally half of the island.
Cyprus is an independant republic, and a different state from Greece.


First and foremost, Cyprus is for Cypriots and it is an autonomous, independent and recognized country
That.

I am supporter of fully independent and peaceful Cyprus. However , North and South hate each other and that sounds impossible for now..
That's not true.

[Roy]

They look heavily Levantine, most of them. But they don't look Turkish.

[DarkSecret]

Greece is not involved actually. Its not Greece which occupies illegally half of the island.
Cyprus is an independant republic, and a different state from Greece.


Do you think Northern Republic is not independent? It is a and independent country. It is not Turkey. They have another parliament and president. Invasion is just a political word. And also they care about the different north.

[Queen B]

Do you think Northern Republic is not independent? It is a and independent country. It is not Turkey. They have another parliament and president. Invasion is just a political word. And also they care about the different north.
Its a ''state'' that is not recognised by any single country (except Turkey). None.
Its block by international communities, trades, posts, and its dependend in Turkey.
The different government its only a facade.
You brought more settlers than the whole population of Turkish speaking Cypriots to manipulate them and haveit your way.

[Incal]

Do you think Northern Republic is not independent? It is a and independent country. It is not Turkey. They have another parliament and president. Invasion is just a political word. And also they care about the different north.

Puppets. A real TC wants Turkey out of their business.

[DarkSecret]

Puppets. A real TC wants Turkey out of their business.

They are not puppets actually. They just know they need us. And sometimes they can do something that Turkey doesn't approve. Lol..

[Incal]

They are not puppets actually. They just know they need us. And sometimes they can do something that Turkey doesn't approve. Lol..

I remember once that my cousin's husband (who is a Turk from Izmir) told me most TCs don't want anything to do with Turkey and that he had a classmate in Uni who suddenly disappeared and later found out to be part of some kind of "terrorist" movement (to the paranoid turkish state) that struggled for Northern Cyprus independence. If I see this guy again I'll ask him if he knows the name of that organization.

[DarkSecret]

I remember once that my cousin's husband (who is a Turk from Izmir) told me most TCs don't want anything to do with Turkey and that he had a classmate in Uni who suddenly disappeared and later found out to be part of some kind of "terrorist" movement (to the paranoid turkish state) that struggled for Northern Cyprus independence. If I see this guy again I'll ask him if he knows the name of that organization.

Sounds interesting. Please let me know about that organization.