Bosnia's Federation entity "paralyzed"

[Baluarte]

SARAJEVO -- Chairman of the House of Representatives of the Federation of Bosnia-Herzegovina (FBiH) Fehim Škaljić says that the entity is "completely paralyzed."

This produces discontent, he told the Banja Luka daily Nezavisne Novine.

The Muslim (Bosniak)-Croat entity is one of Bosnia's two post-war entities, the other being the Serb Republic (RS).

According to Škaljić, the Federation is threatened by economic collapse and requires urgent reforms to forestall damage with devastating consequences.

"The result of the overall events since 1996 has been a deadlock of institutions, rising unemployment, poverty, the strengthening of political and other dominance of the oligarchy and corruption and crime. It produces resentment and causes reactions where dissatisfaction is expressed through demonstrations," he observed.

According to this official, the Federation is "completely paralyzed."

"Quite simply, the system has been devastated, so that the parliamentary majority has no chance to form a government and subjects that can resolve this situation - the president of the Federation and the vice-presidents - are not doing what they have to do. The result is that we have a government that does not have the support of parliament, that is spending public funds, and is in addition divided, blaming one another," added Škaljić.

He pointed out that changes to the Constitution of the FBiH were "not primarily a political issue," and that this was an argument in favor of taking measures to prevent economic collapse.

"Without that, we will not get far. We recently took out a loan from the International Monetary Fund in order to pay an existing loan, all revenues are decreasing, we are not cutting down on spending, while next year we'll be looking at almost 1.3 billion in credit obligations. All this is a realistic framework to be concerned," Škaljić was quoted as saying.

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[alfieb]

Good.

End this abomination once and for all. Republika Srpska is Serbia.

[RandoBloom]

The debts are all from republic of "srpska"

[Baluarte]

The debts are all from republic of "srpska"

That doesn't make any sense, the Croat-Bosniak Federation is paralyzed because Republika Srpska owes money? :S

[RandoBloom]

That doesn't make any sense, the Croat-Bosniak Federation is paralyzed because Republika Srpska owes money? :S

Yes, because entities pay foreign debths of each other together. Federation pays more for the debts of RS than RS because it has more population, 2 times as much. And Serbs use that to raise as much loans as possible in order to block the country and induce stagnation and economic ruin, in order to "prove" that country isnt feasible

[alfieb]

Yes, because entities pay foreign debths of each other together. Federation pays more for the debts of RS than RS because it has more population, 2 times as much. And Serbs use that to raise as much loans as possible in order to block the country and induce stagnation and economic ruin, in order to "prove" that country isnt feasible
Great idea on their part. I'd do the same.

[CrystalMaiden]

Yes, because entities pay foreign debths of each other together. Federation pays more for the debts of RS than RS because it has more population, 2 times as much. And Serbs use that to raise as much loans as possible in order to block the country and induce stagnation and economic ruin, in order to "prove" that country isnt feasible

Which is hurting them more than us.

They are practically having a self induced depopulation and more they "harm us", the shorter we will be exposed to their silly attempts at proving unmaintainability of Bosnia :lol:

[CrystalMaiden]

Great idea on their part. I'd do the same.

The idea of RS is a great idea from Bosniak perspective (beside the obvious cost), what it secured is de-urbanization and grupation of Serbs in the most impoverished parts of Bosnia, and with that Serbs have signed their own extinction. Forcing them to settle in economically dead regions, in which Sarajevo can't or doesn't want to invest in.

Anyone with two braincells, which can look at the map of Bosnia, check the distribution of population, industrial capabilities and economic growth will see which regions are growing and which are dwindling.

[alfieb]

They're not going to be part of BiH for long, the way they see it, so any debts BiH accumulates will be your problem.

[CrystalMaiden]

They're not going to be part of BiH for long, the way they see it, so any debts BiH accumulates will be your problem.

Google translate this... (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?63117-Bosnia-as-a-national-state-of-Bosniaks)

You do realize it's physically impossible for RS to separate from Bosnia?

It's literally cut in two by a massive Bosniak region in Tuzla, while Croats have made their statements about RS's independence.

[alfieb]

What does Tuzla have to do with RS? You mean Brcko?

[meAyin-sixteen]

Bosniaks (Muslims) just never learn the lesson. lnstead of importing oil and food Bosniaks should bring one thousand Chechens to solve the problem.

[Mraz]

Good.

End this abomination once and for all. Republika Srpska is Serbia.

Arabs have more right to claim Sicilia than Serbia RS pastaboy.

[alfieb]

Arabs have more right to claim Sicilia than Serbia RS.
There are no Arabs or Muslims in Sicily. (Well, a handful in Mazzara, but they just arrived)

Half of your country is Serbian Orthodox.

[Mraz]

There are no Arabs or Muslims in Sicily.

Half of your country is Serbian Orthodox.

There are no Arab or Muslims anymore since they assimilated and gave modern Sicilians.
Half of those Bosnian Serbs are Vlachs settled by Ottoman Empire, not native and they're on decline.

[Methmatician]

Bosniaks (Muslims) just never learn the lesson. lnstead of importing oil and food Bosniaks should bring one thousand Chechens to solve the problem.

I'm sure an influx of Islamic fundamentalists would definitely help secular Bosnia :rolleyes2:

[alfieb]

There are no Arab or Muslims anymore since they assimilated and gave modern Sicilians.
Half of those Bosnian Serbs are Vlachs settled by Ottoman Empire, not native and they're on decline.

You can't really blame the Ottomans since they're the ones who gave you your godawful religion.

And the Muslims in Sicily were deported to Italy. All of the Arabs who survived married non-Arabs and non-Muslims. You won't find any Sicilians who don't have a lot of Greek/Italian/etc. blood.

[RandoBloom]

There are no Arabs or Muslims in Sicily. (Well, a handful in Mazzara, but they just arrived)

Half of your country is Serbian Orthodox.

Sicilians are arabs, saracens mixed with Normans. I thought everyone knew that. Just look at your skin colour and then look at northern italy.
As for separation it is imposible since borders between arent geographical. Also only developed part of RS is Banja Luka. Eastern RS depends on Sarajevo and Mostar to survive. Nothing to do with Banja Luka. As for the plan its hitting them in the head :D
Their kids are leaving and they also have a huge negative population growth.
They can indebt as much as they want :)
In the end they will die out.

[Permafrost]

Bosniaks (Muslims) just never learn the lesson. lnstead of importing oil and food Bosniaks should bring one thousand Chechens to solve the problem.

Chechens? Wahhabis with a fetish for head-cutting would 'solve the problem'? :confused:

LOL stari učasih maš nekere čist nore ideje :D

[meAyin-sixteen]

Chechens? Wahhabis with a fetish for head-cutting would 'solve the problem'? :confused:

LOL stari učasih maš nekere čist nore ideje :D


lmpaling, head-cutting, flaying... :confused:

:thumb001:

Ce si obkrozen s samimi norci, moras norost sprejeti kot naravno danost, tako kot si sprejel dez in sneg in sodro in vse tisto kar ti dneve in noci pada z neba na glavo, pa ne ves kako, ne zakaj. To kar je za nekoga v Bosni mir, je za drugega samo kupovanje casa do naslednje predstave, ko bo z istih mostov v globino metal vnuke teh, ki so danes podpisali primirje, tako kot je to ze storil z njihovimi oceti in z oceti od ocetov.

ln glede na to, da si Mujo nikoli ne zapomni iz katere smeri je prisel po njega krvolocni volk, saj mu kot robotu sproti brisejo spomin, ga lahko vsaj opomnim na to, da bi se moral, ce mu je zivljenje milo, zateci na pomoc k svojim bradatim bratom po veri s Kavkaza. Ti za razliko od zmedenih Bosancev, ne pozabljajo...

[CrystalMaiden]

Bosniaks (Muslims) just never learn the lesson. lnstead of importing oil and food Bosniaks should bring one thousand Chechens to solve the problem.

True.

I like Chechen men :o

[meAyin-sixteen]

I'm sure an influx of Islamic fundamentalists would definitely help secular Bosnia :rolleyes2:


l am sure that you are cynical and l also know that 100.000 slaughtered Bosnian Muslims (91-95) couldn´t care less whether Bosnia is secular or teocratic state now...

[Stefan_Dusan]

Any foreign Muslim who comes to Bosnia, get's beheaded, cut in pieces and sent home.

[meAyin-sixteen]

...

[CrystalMaiden]

Any foreign Muslim who comes to Bosnia, get's beheaded, cut in pieces and sent home.

By whom exactly?

[Stefan_Dusan]

By whom exactly?

By Orthodox Serbs at least if you Muslim Serbs don't have will for it.

[RandoBloom]

Any foreign Muslim who comes to Bosnia, get's beheaded, cut in pieces and sent home.

Anyone who causes problems gets that. Christian-muslim or jew. Dont make problems and you are welcome. Be an ass and you will get kicked like one

[RandoBloom]

By Orthodox Serbs at least if you Muslim Serbs don't have will for it.

Serbs?
Muslim serbs O.o?

[CrystalMaiden]

By Orthodox Serbs at least if you Muslim Serbs don't have will for it.

The ones in America?

And also I don't see any beheadings (http://www.ibu.edu.ba/) here gypo...

[CrystalMaiden]

Serbs?
Muslim serbs O.o?

Butt hurt Serv is butt hurt, boo fucking hoo :lol:

[Lucifer]

a serb from kosova living in america talking about bosnia funny.

[Stefan_Dusan]

Serbs?
Muslim serbs O.o?

Yeah Hrulj, you are that Muslim Serb with cross in avatar.

[CrystalMaiden]

Yeah Hrulj, you are that Muslim Serb with cross in avatar.

Gypo, you are out of your fucking mind :lol:

Go to Vatican and convince them about the Serbhood of a Catholic cross :D

[Stefan_Dusan]

a serb from kosova living in america talking about bosnia funny.

I have to support my brothers in the Republic of Serbia, still not recognized.

[RandoBloom]

Gypo, you are out of your fucking mind :lol:

Go to Vatican and convince them about the Serbhood of a Catholic cross :D

I would like to see him try :D

[RandoBloom]

I have to support my brothers in the Republic of Serbia.

Why? If everyone is "serb"? Unless there is a hidden agenda :D

[Stefan_Dusan]

Gypo, you are out of your fucking mind :lol:

Go to Vatican and convince them about the Serbhood of a Catholic cross :D

Just like some Ottomans converted Serbs to Islam, the Venetians and Austrians converted some to Catholics. But that doesn't explain why Muslim has cross in avatar.

[CrystalMaiden]

Just like some Ottomans converted Serbs to Islam, the Venetians and Austrians converted some to Catholics.

Ooooooooooooooooooooh yeah,
that happened 5003545 years and 3 months after our Orthodox ancestors descended from the Heavens under the watchful gaze of Serb Jesus and Tzar Lazar?

I keep forgetting that part of our history...

Silly me :o

[RandoBloom]

Ooooooooooooooooooooh yeah,
that happened 5003545 years and 3 months after our Orthodox ancestors descended from the Heavens under the watchful gaze of Serb Jesus and Tzar Lazar?

I keep forgetting that part of our history...

Silly me :o


Of course. The bible starts with "In the begining there was a Serb, and the Serb was with God and Serb was God XD"

[CrystalMaiden]

Of course. The bible starts with "In the begining there was a Serb, and the Serb was with God and Serb was God XD"

Man I sucked in that part of ancient world history...

[RandoBloom]

Man I sucked in that part of ancient world history...

We all did. Untill Darwin proved we all evolved from Serbs into Serbs XD

[Stefan_Dusan]

Of course. The bible starts with "In the begining there was a Serb, and the Serb was with God and Serb was God XD"

Whatever you think, by blood you're Serbs.

Compare you (https://sites.google.com/site/haplo4862/country-national-haplogroup-chart-dna/bosnia-herzegovina) to us (https://sites.google.com/site/haplo4862/country-national-haplogroup-chart-dna/serbia)

Then compare it to next closest neighbor, Croats (https://sites.google.com/site/haplo4862/country-national-haplogroup-chart-dna/croatia)

[CrystalMaiden]

We all did. Untill Darwin proved we all evolved from Serbs into Serbs XD

That was a truly magnificent year to behold :)

How else could Serb come into existence, if there wasn't a Serb behind it?

They solved the ancient riddle of what came before, chicken or the egg, by proving them both to be Serbs. :clap:

[Lucifer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-EQJA8Ahac

:eek:

[RandoBloom]

Whatever you think, by blood you're Serbs.

Compare you (https://sites.google.com/site/haplo4862/country-national-haplogroup-chart-dna/bosnia-herzegovina) to us (https://sites.google.com/site/haplo4862/country-national-haplogroup-chart-dna/serbia)

Then compare it to next closest neighbor, Croats (https://sites.google.com/site/haplo4862/country-national-haplogroup-chart-dna/croatia)
There is no need. Darwin proved everything when he proved that God is Serb, that we all evolved from Serbs into Serbs, and also that any place a Serb poops is a Serb holly land :D
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lka915sLrA1qhgme2.gif

[CrystalMaiden]

Whatever you think, by blood you're Serbs.

Compare you (https://sites.google.com/site/haplo4862/country-national-haplogroup-chart-dna/bosnia-herzegovina) to us (https://sites.google.com/site/haplo4862/country-national-haplogroup-chart-dna/serbia)

Then compare it to next closest neighbor, Croats (https://sites.google.com/site/haplo4862/country-national-haplogroup-chart-dna/croatia)

Lol, our pies look nothing alike :)

[CrystalMaiden]

There is no need. Darwin proved everything when he proved that God is Serb, that we all evolved from Serbs into Serbs, and also that any place a Serb poops is a Serb holly land :D
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lka915sLrA1qhgme2.gif

Amen.

[RandoBloom]

That was a truly magnificent year to behold :)

How else could Serb come into existence, if there wasn't a Serb behind it?

They solved the ancient riddle of what came before, chicken or the egg, by proving them both to be Serbs. :clap:

Of course, glad we are so englihtened about our Serbhood :D
If God is Serb and he created amoeba Serbs, who evolved into Serbian dinosaurs on Serbian land (holy whats more, since Serb poop makes land holly), and then finaly Serbs evolved from Serbs. That also solves that riddle. If egg is Serb and chicken is a Serb, then what is older? A serb of course :D

[CrystalMaiden]

Of course, glad we are so englihtened about our Serbhood :D
If God is Serb and he created amoeba Serbs, who evolved into Serbian dinosaurs on Serbian land (holy whats more, since Serb poop makes land holly), and then finaly Serbs evolved from Serbs. That also solves that riddle. If egg is Serb and chicken is a Serb, then what is older? A serb of course :D

Genius.

[Stefan_Dusan]

Lol, our pies look nothing alike :)

Maybe you need to look closer, nearly exact breakdown in I,R,E,J whereas Croats have almost twice in R and no E,J.

[Stefan_Dusan]

Of course, glad we are so englihtened about our Serbhood :D
If God is Serb and he created amoeba Serbs, who evolved into Serbian dinosaurs on Serbian land (holy whats more, since Serb poop makes land holly), and then finaly Serbs evolved from Serbs. That also solves that riddle. If egg is Serb and chicken is a Serb, then what is older? A serb of course :D

When we began devolving is when Bosnians happened. This is final missing link in chain.

[RandoBloom]

Maybe you need to look closer, nearly exact breakdown in I,R,E,J whereas Croats have almost twice in R and no E,J.


http://media.tumblr.com/62f92106330e62aa0546aea7c602ccfb/tumblr_inline_mollh4FLnY1qz4rgp.gif

[CrystalMaiden]

Maybe you need to look closer, nearly exact breakdown in I,R,E,J whereas Croats have almost twice in R and no E,J.

No pie similarity :)

[RandoBloom]

When we began devolving is when Bosnians happened. This is final missing link in chain.

That is a lie. Bible proves that God is Serb and that we evolved from Serbs, and that we can only evolve into Serbs. If a serb devolved then he devolves into a Serb. (since serbs are eternal, you know the verse "in the begining there was a serb, and the serb was with God and the Serb was God....)
http://25.media.tumblr.com/ebd9982cc27c9fd9979c3ded27526400/tumblr_mp7k2kiwtE1soccxso1_500.gif

[Stefan_Dusan]

That is a lie. Bible proves that God is Serb and that we evolved from Serbs, and that we can only evolve into Serbs. If a serb devolved then he devolves into a Serb. (since serbs are eternal, you know the verse "in the begining there was a serb, and the serb was with God and the Serb was God....)
http://25.media.tumblr.com/ebd9982cc27c9fd9979c3ded27526400/tumblr_mp7k2kiwtE1soccxso1_500.gif

God is perfection. Any similarity to God and Serbs is simply coincidence as we're closest to perfect people on Balkan.

[CrystalMaiden]

That is a lie. Bible proves that God is Serb and that we evolved from Serbs, and that we can only evolve into Serbs. If a serb devolved then he devolves into a Serb. (since serbs are eternal, you know the verse "in the begining there was a serb, and the serb was with God and the Serb was God....)
http://25.media.tumblr.com/ebd9982cc27c9fd9979c3ded27526400/tumblr_mp7k2kiwtE1soccxso1_500.gif

Don't mind him, he isn't a true Serb. He's more like an Aljbanian-Gypsy hybrid who recognized his proper Biblical roots.

What could he know about true history of the magnificent Serb race or our ancestral Skylands?

[RandoBloom]

God is perfection. Any similarity to God and Serbs is simply coincidence as we're closest to perfect people on Balkan.

Silly you, we all know that
http://25.media.tumblr.com/1171975114553d7723e9c26808c0833d/tumblr_mosxwt78Ic1sppmago1_250.gif

[RandoBloom]

Don't mind him, he isn't a true Serb. He's more like an Aljbanian-Gypsy hybrid who recognized his proper Biblical roots.

What could he know about true history of the magnificent Serb race or our ancestral Skylands?

I dont know what he wants to say. But everything is related to Serbs you know. They are the "sky people" and one of the most succesfull games in the world is Skyrim (inspired by Serbs you know :D )

[CrystalMaiden]

Silly you, we all know that
http://25.media.tumblr.com/1171975114553d7723e9c26808c0833d/tumblr_mosxwt78Ic1sppmago1_250.gif

He is making too many non-Serblike mistakes.

I see an Aljbo troll here!

[Annihilus]

nvm

[Stefan_Dusan]

Don't mind him, he isn't a true Serb.

With a first name of Stefan and middle of Dusan I can only be true Serb. Any balkan person who looks at my passport, ID know immediately even if they don't recognize my surname progovac after village in Kosovo.

[RandoBloom]

He is making too many non-Serblike mistakes.

I see an Aljbo troll here!

http://wiki.urbandead.com/images/7/77/Spanish_inquisition.jpg
Burn him, he betrayed Serbhood, let fire purify him hahahha

[CrystalMaiden]

With a first name of Stefan and middle of Dusan I can only be true Serb. Any balkan person who looks at my passport, ID know immediately even if they don't recognize my surname progovac after village in Kosovo.

Fuck you Aljbo!

You WILL NOT POLLUTE OUR SERB HERITAGE WITH YOUR LIES!!!

[CrystalMaiden]

http://wiki.urbandead.com/images/7/77/Spanish_inquisition.jpg
Burn him, he betrayed Serbhood, let fire purify him hahahha

This Aljbo has never been one of us...

Burn him like the rest... :coffee:

[RandoBloom]

With a first name of Stefan and middle of Dusan I can only be true Serb. Any balkan person who looks at my passport, ID know immediately even if they don't recognize my surname progovac after village in Kosovo.

I named my Penis Dusan. since he is such a kind soul :D
Gives freely to everyone. I guess I will call my nuttsacks Stefan and Pregovac so they can be Serbs as well XD
http://media.tumblr.com/6a7e09743b351ad2afa6857e992a6403/tumblr_inline_moe326Yn8P1qz4rgp.gif

[RandoBloom]

This Aljbo has never been one of us...

Burn him like the rest... :coffee:

Allready done. He will never see the heavens of Serbland. Let him burn in Hell called Albania XD
http://24.media.tumblr.com/3c787ffa7b443a69b4df57f24951ed12/tumblr_mijr23ln8X1qjbphyo1_500.gif

[Stefan_Dusan]

I named my Penis Dusan. since he is such a kind soul :D
Gives freely to everyone. I guess I will call my nuttsacks Stefan and Pregovac so they can be Serbs as well XD
http://media.tumblr.com/6a7e09743b351ad2afa6857e992a6403/tumblr_inline_moe326Yn8P1qz4rgp.gif

I don't know how I feel about you calling your dick and balls after me.... Maybe you want to go to gay thread and write contribution there.

[CrystalMaiden]

I don't know how I feel about you calling your dick and balls after me.... Maybe you want to go to gay thread and write contribution there.

Serb gay bars don't allow Aljbo dogs like you to enter.

Our faggots have class and swag :coffee:

[RandoBloom]

I don't know how I feel about you calling your dick and balls after me.... Maybe you want to go to gay thread and write contribution there.

You should be proud :D
Arent you serbs after all all into making us Serbs? Well Start from my dick since that is all Serbs can get from me :D

[Stefan_Dusan]

Serb gay bars don't allow Aljbo dogs like you to enter.

Our faggots have class and swag :coffee:

To Serb, the Bosnian dialect sounds 'faggy' especially spoken by men. So no surprise Bosnia is king of gays.

[RandoBloom]

To Serb, the Bosnian dialect sounds 'faggy' especially spoken by men. So no surprise Bosnia is king of gays.

That sounds like personal experience. Seems like you tried some of Bosnian Dusans XD

[Stefan_Dusan]

You should be proud :D
Arent you serbs after all all into making us Serbs? Well Start from my dick since that is all Serbs can get from me :D

You're already Serbs. Brainwashed, Muslim Serbs. But still Serbs. It's just shame.

[RandoBloom]

You're already Serbs. Brainwashed, Muslim Serbs. But still Serbs. It's just shame.

Strange that you dont suport "serbs". Instead you suport those of your own religion.

[CrystalMaiden]

To Serb, the Bosnian dialect sounds 'faggy' especially spoken by men. So no surprise Bosnia is king of gays.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gt2byGxKxB4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tRXlStDErA

[Stefan_Dusan]

Strange that you dont suport "serbs". Instead you suport those of your own religion.

What makes you think I don't support you? If country were to invade from outside, I would support you. Which is why I don't want to see foreign Muslims in Bosnia. At least Bosnian Muslim women can marry is Bosnian Muslim men.

[RandoBloom]

What makes you think I don't support you? If country were to invade from outside, I would support you. Which is why I don't want to see foreign Muslims in Bosnia. At least Bosnian Muslim women can marry is Bosnian Muslim men.

Now now, lets be honest. You dont want foreign involwement, so that Bosnians lose foreign suport and that you can invade and give them a chance to convert, die or leave. We are not fools like that any more. As I said this is all you can get from us http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penis

[Stefan_Dusan]

Now now, lets be honest. You dont want foreign involwement, so that Bosnians lose foreign suport and that you can invade and give them a chance to convert, die or leave. We are not fools like that any more. As I said this is all you can get from us http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penis

I mean of outside country invade you. I don't see scenario but if Germany were to invade Bosnia, Serbs would be on your side. I don't talk about internal invents. I can beat my brother, but if someone tries to beat him, I defend my brother.

[RandoBloom]

I mean of outside country invade you. I don't see scenario but if Germany were to invade Bosnia, Serbs would be on your side. I don't talk about internal invents. I can beat my brother, but if someone tries to beat him, I defend my brother.

Come on. Outside war? Of course, because if Bosnia becomes part of Germany you can forget about it. But wonderfull question remains. Why suport orthodox serbs here?

[CrystalMaiden]

I mean of outside country invade you. I don't see scenario but if Germany were to invade Bosnia, Serbs would be on your side. I don't talk about internal invents. I can beat my brother, but if someone tries to beat him, I defend my brother.

I for one, would welcome our new German overlords and their well fare money :o

[Stefan_Dusan]

Come on. Outside war? Of course, because if Bosnia becomes part of Germany you can forget about it. But wonderfull question remains. Why suport orthodox serbs here?

I support my brothers with right mindset over my brainwashed brothers.


I for one, would welcome our new German overlords and their well fare money

If money is all you care about, you can go to Germany and be prostitute. You would make good money in Berlin.

[RandoBloom]

I support my brothers with right mindset over my brainwashed brothers.



If money is all you care about, you can go to Germany and be prostitute. You would make good money in Berlin.


So unbrainwashing would be leaving of our religion, our culture and out history, betraying Bosniakhood, out proud Kings and Bans, our proud Bogomils for what? You can have your "unbrainwashed". They are dying out anyway. We stay what we always have been :)

[Stefan_Dusan]

So unbrainwashing would be leaving of our religion, our culture and out history, betraying Bosniakhood, out proud Kings and Bans, our proud Bogomils for what? You can have your "unbrainwashed". They are dying out anyway. We stay what we always have been :)

If being Bogomil was so important you would never convert to Islam. I guess it was not so important, now that church is dead.

[CrystalMaiden]

If money is all you care about, you can go to Germany and be prostitute. You would make good money in Berlin.

I am not interested in your Aljbo career path.

[RandoBloom]

If being Bogomil was so important you would never convert to Islam. I guess it was not so important, now that church is dead.

Bye bye :)
Little serb, go back to trying out Bosnian Dushans XD

[Stefan_Dusan]

I am not interested in your Aljbo career path.

Did you know 90% of prostitutes in western europe are from eastern europe? Lion share of them from Romania and Bulgaria. This is your EU-German dream. To serve German business men.

[Stefan_Dusan]

Bye bye :)
Little serb, go back to trying out Bosnian Dushans XD

I leave them to you. You can name each other dicks and other fun Bogomil activities.

[RandoBloom]

Did you know 90% of prostitutes in western europe are from eastern europe? Lion share of them from Romania and Bulgaria. This is your EU-German dream. To serve German business men.

And most Serbs cheat their wives with transexuals :)
http://mymememaker.com/media/created/lonve2.jpg

[CrystalMaiden]

Did you know 90% of prostitutes in western europe are from eastern europe? Lion share of them from Romania and Bulgaria. This is your EU-German dream. To serve German business men.

I don't look like a whore in my profile pic...

[Stefan_Dusan]

I don't look like a whore in my profile pic...

A whore comes from the heart, not the looks.

[CrystalMaiden]

A whore comes from the heart, not the looks.

All whores say that while gobbling up the last of the baby juice :coffee:

[Stefan_Dusan]

All whores say that while gobbling up the last of the baby juice :coffee:

I must confess I do not know. You have more experience than me here.

[RandoBloom]

I must confess I do not know. You have more experience than me here.

Says a man descended from whores :)

[CrystalMaiden]

I must confess I do not know. You have more experience than me here.

I have a lot of experience with whores and how to detect them.

And I plan to use that gift for benefit of all mankind ;)

[Stefan_Dusan]

Says a man descended from whores :)

My family did not betray by converting. Yours did. Little pressure Ottomans put was enough for your family.

[RandoBloom]

My family did not betray by converting. Yours did. Little pressure Ottomans put was enough for your family.

And what preasure? I am really interested in what you think about our reasons for conversion :D

[Stefan_Dusan]

And what preasure? I am really interested in what you think about our reasons for conversion :D

To become Turks, so you can have more status in empire.

[RandoBloom]

To become Turks, so you can have more status in empire.

That is not an answer nor is it a benefit. Benefits. Tangible benefits. A peasant in the mountains doesnt convert to "have more status in empire"

[Lucifer]

you'll find far more whores called tanja than suada :rolleyes:

[Stefan_Dusan]

That is not an answer nor is it a benefit. Benefits. Tangible benefits. A peasant in the mountains doesnt convert to "have more status in empire"

To be any form of administration in Ottoman, Islam. To avoid extra taxes, Islam. To gain land in cities, Islam. This is why the peasants in mountains tended to be christian still, Serbs.

[RandoBloom]

To be any form of administration in Ottoman, Islam. To avoid extra taxes, Islam. To gain land in cities, Islam. This is why the peasants in mountains tended to be christian still, Serbs.

Yeah Lukomir is center of humanity XD
Administration?
Administration was formed rarely from Turks
Extra taxes? Yeah, let us pay 10% less tax in exchange for going o war and get killed
You still didnt explain it

[Gorštak]

To become Turks, so you can have more status in empire.
While Bosniaks Muslims were fighting around the whole world, Vlachs Orthodox were just raising sheep around Bosnia.
You should be thankful to Ottomans, they brought you in Bosnia, someone had to deal with sheeps while Bosniaks fight in Africa.

Muslims had better position in Empire, but you had to fight for Ottomans all the time.
I think that a lot of people would rather choose to be Christian and engage in animal husbandry and agriculture, than be Muslim with privileges and had to fight around the whole world.

[Stefan_Dusan]

you'll find far more whores called tanja than suada :rolleyes:

Lots of Bulgarian girls can have that name. In Germany, I will bet there are more Bosnian women as whores than Serbian ones.

[Stefan_Dusan]

Yeah Lukomir is center of humanity XD
Administration?
Administration was formed rarely from Turks
Extra taxes? Yeah, let us pay 10% less tax in exchange for going o war and get killed
You still didnt explain it

It was always from Turks. You don't understand that everyone in Ottoman days who was Muslim was called a Turk. This is what Ottomans themselves called. There is no such thing as an ethnic Turk. Nationality in Ottoman days was done by religion.

[Stefan_Dusan]

While Bosniaks Muslims were fighting around the whole world,.

So were Serbs. There are more famous Serb generals for Ottomans than Bosnian ones.

[RandoBloom]

It was always from Turks. You don't understand that everyone in Ottoman days who was Muslim was called a Turk. This is what Ottomans themselves called. There is no such thing as an ethnic Turk. Nationality in Ottoman days was done by religion.

It was never supressed.
Greek fanariots did plenty of administrative work
Just like armenian christians..
You didnt explain what is there to gain in 10% tax decrease in exchange for military obligation

[RandoBloom]

So were Serbs. There are more famous Serb generals for Ottomans than Bosnian ones.

And it was known that they were serbs. Written down. Mehmed pasha Sokolovic was a Serb. Omer pasha Latas was a serb as well. Yet a Bosniak was never called a Serb

[Stefan_Dusan]

And it was known that they were serbs. Written down. Mehmed pasha Sokolovic was a Serb. Omer pasha Latas was a serb as well. Yet a Bosniak was never called a Serb

These nationality games only came after. Omer Latas was not called a Serb but a Turk. As all you Bosnian Muslim called one another. Bosnia was a name of kingdom while name of Serbs (and Croats and Albanians) existed before they had a kingdom in their name.

[RandoBloom]

These nationality games only came after. Omer Latas was not called a Serb but a Turk. As all you Bosnian Muslim called one another. Bosnia was a name of kingdom while name of Serbs (and Croats and Albanians) existed before they had a kingdom in their name.
Bullshit. Embarasment to yourself. For once I was hoping you will tell the truth and be honest.
But bullshit. Well, what did I expect from a serb?

[Stefan_Dusan]

For example, Sokolovic:


The ethnic origins of Sokullu Mehmed Pasha have been the longstanding subject of dispute between the Bosniak and Serb ethnic groups which both claim his legacy. In line with this, the issue has frequently been imbued with extended ethnopolitic connotations in the region. Without any conclusive research produced to date the only certain perception one can assume is that Sokullu Mehmed Pasha was born as an Eastern Orthodox Christian in Bosnia and converted to Islam; a land where adherents of the Catholic, Orthodox and native Bosnian church had co-existed for centuries prior to the Ottoman conquest.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehmed_Pa%C5%A1a_Sokolovi%C4%87

Only reason there is controversy is he was never recorded as Serb or "Bosniak" in Ottoman times. So when you began discovering your identity, it begins hard to know what is a true "Bosniak" in Bosnia.

[Gorštak]

So were Serbs. There are more famous Serb generals for Ottomans than Bosnian ones.
Muslims Serbs.
Not Orthodox Serbs.
Anyway my point was that a lot of people would rather choose to be cattleman than soldier even though as soldier he would have more money.
I repeat:
While Bosniaks Muslims were fighting around the whole world, Vlachs Orthodox were just raising sheep around Bosnia.
You should be thankful to Ottomans, they brought you in Bosnia, someone had to deal with sheeps while Bosniaks fight in Africa.

Muslims had better position in Empire, but you had to fight for Ottomans all the time.
I think that a lot of people would rather choose to be Christian and engage in animal husbandry and agriculture, than be Muslim with privileges and had to fight around the whole world.


And about Mehmed Pasa Sokolovic, he was from Vlach Orthodox family who were brought by the Ottomans to care for livestock in Bosnia.
He come to Turkey as kid for devşirme and became great statesman.

[Lucifer]

Lots of Bulgarian girls can have that name. In Germany, I will bet there are more Bosnian women as whores than Serbian ones.

i doubt it

http://www.setimes.com/cocoon/setimes/xhtml/en_GB/features/setimes/features/2012/01/16/feature-03