Are Slavs the Real Aryans? Instead of germanics and Persians?

[RussiaPrussia]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/R1a1a_distribution.png/800px-R1a1a_distribution.png

Aryans came from India and cultivated Europe, You can see haplogroup R1a shows this connection the most

[MelinusMargos]

Aryans did not come exactly from India but from Persia. There are a lot of aryan haplogroups, not just R1a, also R1b, J1, J2, I2 etc... I think all europe bears a similiar genetic presence of neolithic invaders except isolated areas such as Sardinia which is far more paleolithic/CM

[Methmatician]

No.

[RussiaPrussia]

No.

of course they are the aryans as they are who came to europe and mixed the least with the ingenious people unlike people who went westwards

[Insuperable]

Aryans did not come exactly from India but from Persia. There are a lot of aryan haplogroups, not just R1a, also R1b, J1, J2, I2 etc... I think all europe bears a similiar genetic presence of neolithic invaders except isolated areas such as Sardinia which is far more paleolithic/CM

Sardinians are early neolithics who stayed much the same. We don't know exactly how paleolithic Europeans looked like, but we do know that mesolithic Europeans were similar to far northern Europeans.

[RussiaPrussia]

http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/ae39/Cedo2_2010/MapoflateNeolithicandearlyBronzeAgeculturesinEurop efromapproximately5000to4500yearsago.jpg?t=1285194 371

https://lombardism.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/haplogroups.png

https://lombardism.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/ethnic-groups.png?w=960&h=774

[Cleitus]

So Indians are Slavic to ? :picard2:

[CrystalMaiden]

Albanians are troo Illyrians, while South Slavs are wannabe Illyrians.

They are Ilirianized half breeds, Baznijaks are teh tr00 Illyrians!

[RussiaPrussia]

So Indians are Slavic to ? :picard2:

this is were aryans came from. Hitler stole the swastika from indian culture because he assumed thats where the aryans came from.

http://www.richardcassaro.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Hindu-Temple-Swastikas.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tpx_V6QN5rg/TbwMHg-AS9I/AAAAAAAAB_I/JIgAP1nVNNc/s640/Swastika+India.jpg

http://www.tofugu.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/india-swastika.jpg

[RussiaPrussia]

Aryans did not come exactly from India but from Persia. There are a lot of aryan haplogroups, not just R1a, also R1b, J1, J2, I2 etc... I think all europe bears a similiar genetic presence of neolithic invaders except isolated areas such as Sardinia which is far more paleolithic/CM

Aryans didnt came from india but they went there too after leaving persia. Basicly aryans went from persia to south asia and europe. You can see iran also has huge haplogroup r1a

http://masterkosta.com/Foto/Statystic/Y-Haplogroups-1500AD-World-Map.png

[Fire Haired]

What u are saying is totally false the true Aryans where a group of people in asia about 4,000-5,000ybp aryan has been miss used so much the sythiens where true aryans DNA from 3,800ybp aryans from adronovo culture show they where most relted to north east europeans not slavics though

here is a long description of the hair, eye color, Y DNA, and mtDNA of ancinet Aryans http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?84440-Indo-Iranien-hair-color-eye-color-Y-DNA-mtDNA

[Cleitus]

this is were aryans came from. Hitler stole the swastika from indian culture because he assumed thats where the aryans came from.

http://www.richardcassaro.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Hindu-Temple-Swastikas.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tpx_V6QN5rg/TbwMHg-AS9I/AAAAAAAAB_I/JIgAP1nVNNc/s640/Swastika+India.jpg

http://www.tofugu.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/india-swastika.jpg

No, the Swastika was firstly used by the Illyrian tribe of Liburni http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Liburnian_Hakenkreuzer

[RussiaPrussia]

Aryans settlets in russia before going to Europe its proven fact

4000-year-old Aryan city discovered in Russia (http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2010-10-04/europe/28241450_1_aryan-settlements-aerial-photography)


LONDON: Russian archaeologists have unearthed some ancient and virtually unknown settlements which they believe were built by the original Aryan race about 4000 years ago.

According to the team which has discovered 20 of the spiral-shaped settlements in remote part of Russia steppe in southern Siberia bordering Kazakhstan, the buildings date back to the beginning of Western civilisation in Europe.


The Bronze-age settlements, the experts said, could have been built shortly after the Great Pyramid some 4000 years ago by the original Aryan race whose swastika symbol was later adopted by the Nazis in the 1930s.

TV historian Bettany Hughes, who explored the desolate part of the Russian steppe for BBC programme 'Tracking The Aryans', said: "Potentially, this could rival ancient Greece in the age of the heroes."

"Because I have written a lot about the Bronze Age world, there always seemed to be this huge missing piece of the jigsaw puzzle," Hughes was quoted as saying by the Daily Mail.

She said: "We are all told that there is this kind of mother tongue, proto-Indo-European, from which all the languages we know emerge.

"I was very excited to hear on the archaeological grapevine that in exactly the period I am an expert in, this whole new Bronze Age civilisation had been discovered on the steppe of southern Siberia."

The remains of the ancient city were explored for the first time around 20 years ago shortly after then Soviet officials relaxed strict laws banning non-military aerial photography.

But because of the region is so remote the incredible cities have remained virtually unknown to the rest of Europe until now, according to the archaeologists

They are about the same size as several of the city states of ancient Greece and would have housed between 1,000 and 200 people, they said.

Hughes was driven to the vast region by the expedition's chief archaeologist Professor Gennady Zdanovich who pointed to the cities that were buried in the ground beneath them.

The Aryan's language has been identified as the precursor to a number of modern European tongues. English uses many similar words such as brother, oxen and guest which have all been tracked to the Aryans.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91IXhJum2gQ

[RussiaPrussia]

No, the Swastika was firstly used by the Illyrian tribe of Liburni http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Liburnian_Hakenkreuzer

lol metapedia

[Cleitus]

The Swatika is the Symbol for the Black Sun that is in every real Aryan.

[Cleitus]

lol metapedia

You doesnt have any source for your Idiotic Theory.

[MelinusMargos]

Sardinians are early neolithics who stayed much the same. We don't know exactly how paleolithic Europeans looked like, but we do know that mesolithic Europeans were similar to far northern Europeans.

Really? I always thought they had a strong paleolithic element, I mean, they have a lot of CM influences in their look.

[MelinusMargos]

this is were aryans came from. Hitler stole the swastika from indian culture because he assumed thats where the aryans came from.

http://www.richardcassaro.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Hindu-Temple-Swastikas.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tpx_V6QN5rg/TbwMHg-AS9I/AAAAAAAAB_I/JIgAP1nVNNc/s640/Swastika+India.jpg

http://www.tofugu.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/india-swastika.jpg

Bullshit
http://www.rosacamuna.org/web_home.jpg
An ancient swastika from North italy. swastikas were found in all europe

[Aunt Hilda]

no

[Insuperable]

Really? I always thought they had a strong paleolithic element, I mean, they have a lot of CM influences in their look.

Iberian sample dug up two years ago is the closet to Saamis.. On the other side of Europe (east) samples so far were not analyzed autosomally, but by haplogroups they clustered in northern Europe too. Researchers so far think that mesolithic Europeans were similar to northern Europeans and were pushed by incoming invaders towards the north. They also mixed with some of them hence why Scandinavians also have Med influence, but to minor extent.

This paper sums it well
http://genetics.med.harvard.edu/reich/Reich_Lab/Welcome_files/2012_Patterson_AncientAdmixture_Genetics.pdf

[Insuperable]

But have in mind that there were several neolithic invasions. Sardinians were among the first and later others brought what is called the Caucasus component which can be seen on calculators since Otzi did not have such influence.

[RussiaPrussia]

Bullshit
http://www.rosacamuna.org/web_home.jpg
An ancient swastika from North italy. swastikas were found in all europe

haha hinduism is the oldest religion in history i sure trust them more than some nazishit on the internet

[Anglojew]

Probably. You make a good point actually.

[Cleitus]

haha hinduism is the oldest religion in history i sure trust them more than some nazishit on the internet
Im sure that the Nazis have know more than every one here.

[RussiaPrussia]

Migla stop abusing your Mod power by giving it an unnecessary poll with no option for answering yes just to bash me.

[MelinusMargos]

haha hinduism is the oldest religion in history i sure trust them more than some nazishit on the internet

Don't act like a dickhead, this is not nazi shit, this is an important northern italian simbol known as camuna rose. Respect other people traditions instead of spreading your stereotyped offenses... and I trust nazis more than "state capitalists" for sure

http://www.google.it/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&docid=tct2enH_o7cQ-M&tbnid=BjZ3-7HYJynmPM:&ved=0CAUQjBwwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fkaidan.altervista.org%2Fsite%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2010%2F09%2FRosa-camuna.png&ei=m7TFUYiIA-je4QTrzICACg&psig=AFQjCNGRQubdSwaFIgGWQzNQYfxWhGgugg&ust=1371997723112171
The official symbol of Lombardy Italian region

[glass]

i am too aryan to argue with ignorant people here
slavs are only real aryans

[rashka]

Albanians are troo Illyrians, while South Slavs are wannabe Illyrians.

But.....I thought South Slavs are wannabe Poles? :rofl:

[Szegedist]

So Russians are the true Aryans, but also they are Finnics, but also they are East Asians?

[RussiaPrussia]

Don't act like a dickhead, this is not nazi shit, this is an important northern italian simbol known as camuna rose. Respect other people traditions instead of spreading your stereotyped offenses... and I trust nazis more than "state capitalists" for sure

http://kaidan.altervista.org/site/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Rosa-camuna.png
The official symbol of Lombardy Italian region

this is not, this


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/32/St_George_Swastika.gif

[Aunt Hilda]

Migla stop abusing your Mod power by giving it an unnecessary poll with no option for answering yes just to bash me.

:coffee: stop making ridiculous threads and giving Prussians a bad name

[RussiaPrussia]

So Russians are the true Aryans, but also they are Finnics, but also they are East Asians?

yeah thats what the haplogroup tells

http://i39.tinypic.com/2qluxvl.png

[Cleitus]

i am too aryan to argue with ignorant people here
slavs are only real aryans

You are a Baltid Subhuman nothing other.

[Mans not hot]

But.....I thought South Slavs are wannabe Poles? :rofl:
Who claimed otherwise? :confused:

[RussiaPrussia]

:coffee: stop making ridiculous threads and giving Prussians a bad name

then remove prussia from my name, i dont want it anymore anyways since the state is dead and occupied by brd. Where do i give prussia a bad name? I am the only wanting indepence, your baltic tribe is dead anyways.

[Insuperable]

You are a Baltid Subhuman nothing other.

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?83109-Albannach-s-FTDNA-Family-finder-results
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?84129-Drawing-live-s-23-amp-me-results/page6

[Szegedist]

yeah thats what the haplogroup tells

http://i39.tinypic.com/2qluxvl.png

You are a moron with no understanding of anything you talk about.

[Cleitus]

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?83109-Albannach-s-FTDNA-Family-finder-results
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?84129-Drawing-live-s-23-amp-me-results/page6
34965

[RussiaPrussia]

You are a Baltid Subhuman nothing other.

subhumans in a nutshell

Russia

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_oPxLzA-jlRU/TKRVRruNJwI/AAAAAAAAANc/Ta-XN2ilco8/s1600/AlbRomOrf+-+16.jpg

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0fgafNlgCibs0/610x.jpg

http://www.smarteuropetravel.com/imagesedd/tirana.jpg


albania

http://imageshack.us/a/img46/2575/barf1f1u8rq.jpg

japan

http://iliketowastemytime.com/sites/default/files/tokyo-japan-hd-wallpaper.jpg

south korea

http://www.gazprom.com/f/posts/88/640189/0005.jpg

[Aunt Hilda]

Where do i give prussia a bad name? I am the only wanting indepence, your baltic tribe is dead anyways

you are literally too stupid to argue with.

[Vesuvian Sky]

Aryan = hijacked term.

Indo-European Studies = hijacked area of study. This has always been very unfortunate.:picard2:

The Proto-Indo-European speakers were unique for their time and day. Their genes would have differed today from nearly all of their linguistic inheritors and naturally PIE the language itself is not exactly like any of the daughter languages. Based on linguistic paleontology, the most reasonable "homeland" for them is the Pontic-Caspian steppes.

But to answer the question: NO.

They were not Slavs.

[Insuperable]

34965

http://i.imgur.com/Qo4mQ.png




http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?73941-The-IQ-map-of-Europe-Friuli-Venezia-Giulia-is-the-smartest-Region-in-Europe

[Cleitus]

Tirana http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8093/8394808500_35a1229802_h.jpg
Prishtina http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/23602748.jpg

[RussiaPrussia]

http://i.imgur.com/Qo4mQ.png




http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?73941-The-IQ-map-of-Europe-Friuli-Venezia-Giulia-is-the-smartest-Region-in-Europe

map is only wrong about russia, it was dony by richard lynn iq score map and some education study

http://imageshack.us/a/img12/1586/nationaliqlynnvanhanen2.png

[Cleitus]

http://i.imgur.com/Qo4mQ.png




http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?73941-The-IQ-map-of-Europe-Friuli-Venezia-Giulia-is-the-smartest-Region-in-Europe
who performed this measurments ? :loco:

[Insuperable]

............

The one you posted was also done by Richard Lynn (one is from 2002 and the other from 2012) and judging by the education scores you constantly write...:confused:


But yeah I know that Russia is an uber country and that Russians are uber people

[safinator]

who performed this measurments ? :loco:

Actually from the countries on the map only some were measured, Albania wasn't among them for example.

[Cleitus]

Im sure Richard Lynn and Vanhanen doesnt have tested any Albanian Person.

[safinator]

Im sure Richard Lynn and Vanhanen doesnt have tested any Albanian Person.

I have the book, Albania wasn't measured and a bunch of other countries too.

[Insuperable]

who performed this measurments ? :loco:

https://lesacreduprintemps19.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/intelligence-a-unifying-construct-for-the-social-sciences-richard-lynn-and-tatu-vanhanen.pdf

[RussiaPrussia]

http://sydwalker.info/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/adolf_hitler.jpg

Hitler after he realized he killed 30 Million Aryans

[Steven]

Albanians are troo Illyrians, while South Slavs are wannabe Illyrians.

Aint that the truth. Poor Slavs have a severe identity crisis on their hands.

[Cleitus]

http://sydwalker.info/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/adolf_hitler.jpg

Hitler after he realized he killed 30 Million Aryans

:picard2: This show how Dumb you Russians are.

[RussiaPrussia]

:picard2: This show how Dumb you Russians are.

http://sydwalker.info/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/adolf_hitler.jpg

Hitler after seeing albanians feeling aryan

[rashka]

Is Ha supposed to mean Da? :)

[Corvus]

Proto Type Slavs are but they are rare, it is debatable where is the epicentre of Proto type Slavs now,
in the Balticum perhaps, North West Russia or Poland

[sevruk]

Яг энэ vг олдсонгvй!
http://waralbum.ru/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/0_32c2f_719f8ee8_orig.jpeg
http://www.abirvalg.net/uploads/posts/2010-08/1281128105_neonacisty-2.jpg

[RussiaPrussia]

https://lombardism.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/ethnic-groups.png?w=960&h=774
Lol at those maps. What are Balts doing in Uralic areas that have never been considered as Baltic and why are Balts called Slavo-Uralic?
Where are Balto-Slavs?

its about genetics, russians, siberians, balts and finnic have most haplogroup N

[Manuel]

WTF, what happened to the "Prussia" bit of your nickname, Russia?:mad:

[RussiaPrussia]

WTF, what happened to the "Prussia" bit of your nickname, Russia?:mad:

Prussia doesnt exist anymore

[Roy]

Real Aryans where originally. from Persia, not from India like all Indo-Europeans. Proto-Slavs could be regarded as Aryans I must agree.

[Roy]

https://lombardism.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/ethnic-groups.png?w=960&h=774
Lol at those maps. What are Balts doing in Uralic areas that have never been considered as Baltic and why are Balts called Slavo-Uralic?
Where are Balto-Slavs?

Where do you see any Uralic areas in this map?
This map is bullshit anyway.

[Lemon Kush]

I dunno, but Slavs had conquered more lands and expanded more than any other European group. Must be the Aryan blood :cool:

[Swearengen]

there is no east asian admixture in slavs except russians

Unfortunately there is.

Russians are 7.5% mongoloid.

Ukrainians 3.9%.

http://s22.postimg.org/5f5lqifo1/admix.png

[RussiaPrussia]

Unfortunately there is.

Russians are 7.5% mongoloid.

Ukrainians 3.9%.

http://s22.postimg.org/5f5lqifo1/admix.png

there is only Siberian. So albanians and southern euros are all negroes after your and their logic. Only Russians and finns have east asian admixture over 10% which derives from siberian admixture thats why they have highest IQ in europe.

[Swearengen]

there is only Siberian. So albanians and southern euros are all negroes after your and their logic. Only Russians and finns have east asian admixture over 10% which derives from siberian admixture thats why they have highest IQ in europe.

huh? Russian siberian input is around 5%. Finland around 9. South euros do not have any negro DNA.

[arcticwolf]

Finally you have come to your senses and dropped that nonsensical Prussia bit! Good on you my Slavic brother! :P

You know you are on the right track if you have Germanics moaning and bitching! Keep up the good work! :laugh:

[RussiaPrussia]

huh? Russian siberian input is around 5%. Finland around 9. South euros do not have any negro DNA.

http://imageshack.us/a/img577/3525/gr1zi.jpg

[Insuperable]

http://imageshack.us/a/img577/3525/gr1zi.jpg

Are you nuts or what? You have the numbers up there, but you see only what you want to see.

[Swearengen]

http://imageshack.us/a/img577/3525/gr1zi.jpg

I gave you actual numbers. You posted a few pictures that do not indicate genetic composition.

[Lemon Kush]

I believe Celts were more widespread than Slavs at one point.

Yes but they didn't leave much behind, for example native Celtic speakers are so few compared to Slavic.

[RussiaPrussia]

Are you nuts or what? You have the numbers up there, but you see only what you want to see.


I gave you actual numbers. You posted a few pictures that do not indicate genetic composition.

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg607/scaled.php?server=607&filename=euroadmix.png&res=medium

[Swearengen]

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg607/scaled.php?server=607&filename=euroadmix.png&res=medium

much of that remaining 13% is west asian ie non-mongoloid.

[RussiaPrussia]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Ish7688voT0/TShZrL1hQLI/AAAAAAAADKM/f2VuiF4Fm0E/s1600/ADMIXTURE_10.png

still shows that finns and russian have most north east asian admixture of all white people

[Swearengen]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Ish7688voT0/TShZrL1hQLI/AAAAAAAADKM/f2VuiF4Fm0E/s1600/ADMIXTURE_10.png

That figure proves me right. As you can see, the total east asian+northeast asian is around 5%.

[Swearengen]

still shows that finns and russian have most north east asian admixture of all white people

Maybe you should re-read my first reply to see what my actual argument was. I never disputed that; I pretty much stated that fact.

[RussiaPrussia]

That figure proves me right. As you can see, the total east asian+northeast asian is around 5%.

so what? Doesnt change the fact i am trying to prove. Women and men are 99% the same genetically yet 1% gives an obvious difference. Thats how much is enough to make huge differences in genetics.

http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s666/malaria2000/mathtimss8th2011_zps07b90164.png

[Swearengen]

so what? Doesnt change the fact

http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s666/malaria2000/mathtimss8th2011_zps07b90164.png

One's own capabilities are all that matter. The only people who post those sort of statistics are incompetent themselves and will accomplish nothing anyway. I wiped the floor with all of the asians at University.

[Sisak]

https://lombardism.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/ethnic-groups.png?w=960&h=774

What is the haplogroups of these near eastern people?

[Sisak]

this is not, this


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/32/St_George_Swastika.gif
Stečci from ex-Yugoslavian countries have swastika. And in region Slavonia people were making the swastika on the traditional eggs in 16, 17, 18 century.

[Manuel]

Prussia doesnt exist anymore

Did you just realise that or have you always known?

[CrystalMaiden]

So Russians are the true Aryans, but also they are Finnics, but also they are East Asians?

And Arctic Nordicks!

[RussiaPrussia]

finally you can now vote for yes

[Shah-Jehan]

Contrary to what you people have been stating, NO niether Slavs nor Germanics are truly aryans. Only people speaking Indo-Iranian and Indo-Aryan languages can be truly Aryan, that is the people of the Iranian plateau and Maha Bharata, including myself;)