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Beorn
09-23-2009, 08:04 PM
Gael Poll answers on Lisbon2: 59% NO vs. 41% YES


Lisbon Treaty On The Rocks
A new opinion poll shows that there has been a massive surge in support for the No side, which, if it holds till voting day would result in the Lisbon Treaty being heavily defeated by a margin of 59% NO vs. 41% YES.

In one of the largest polls of its kind ever carried out: Gael Poll polled 1,500 respondents in Dublin, Cork, Limerick, Waterford, Kilkenny, Galway, Athlone, Tralee, Dundalk and Letterkenny over the course of six days last week.
The respondents were asked one single question: How do you intend to vote in the Lisbon Treaty Referendum?
A substantial 723 (59 %) said they intended voting No as opposed to 502 (41%) who indicated that they would vote Yes. The survey also showed that 15% percent of voters were still undecided.

When pollsters discounted the don’t knows: an overwhelming 59% of people would vote No in the referendum as opposed to 41% who indicated that they would vote Yes. The last Gael Poll which was published in the Irish Sun (June 4th 2008) accurately predicted that the Lisbon Treaty would be defeated by a margin of 54 % for the No side versus 46% for Yes campaigners. On the day of the count -which took place nine days later- the actual result was 53.4% No and 46.6 % Yes. The uncanny poll prediction which was out by only a half a percent was the most accurate poll in the country.

Pollsters at Gael Poll which is a non-profit social affairs research organization are quietly confident that they will be accurate for a second year in a row:
“Our Poll was carried out over an extended six day period and we used the exact same methodology as we used last year. In our experience the vote is not half as fluid as one might believe. People tend to have very definite ideas about which way they intend to vote, and those who don’t know tend not to vote at all,” explains Pollster Paul Murphy.
One interesting insight that the pollsters gleaned were the variety of ‘off the radar’ reasons why people intend to vote No:
“Frankly a lot of the personalities who are fronting the Yes campaign don’t appear to be very popular and a lot of people have commented upon this.”
“Apart from the obvious well known issues, we found that people were very concerned about the curtailment of alternative medicines and the banning of turf cutting to the over preponderance of EU flags and emblems. If you were to boil it down to core emotions, No voters tend to be enraged and up for a fight whereas Yes voters tend to be motivated by economic fears,” explained Paul Murphy.

The results will came as a shock to the Government and business groups who have poured over €10 Million eur+ campaigning for a yes vote in the Lisbon Treaty. In comparison No campaigners are poorly funded with a total combined spend of just under €1 Million eur.

Source (http://www.teameurope.info/node/603)

Óttar
09-25-2009, 08:35 PM
The EU fat cats will keep having a referendum until they get the result they want, which is exactly what they'll do to get Turkey in the EU.

British and Proud
10-03-2009, 04:41 PM
Ireland EU Yes vote 'good for UK'

Irish voters rejected the treaty in a referendum 18 months ago


UK Prime Minister Gordon Brown has welcomed the "Yes" vote on the EU's Lisbon Treaty in the Republic of Ireland referendum.

Mr Brown said the treaty was "good for the UK and good for Europe".

David Cameron will now face pressure to say if a Tory government would hold a referendum if the treaty is in force.

The Irish electorate produced a 67.1% "Yes" vote, leaving only Poland and the Czech Republic to sign the treaty aimed at streamlining EU institutions.

Source (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8288652.stm).

Anything I write now will be very, very offensive to the Irish....so I won't bother.

Freomæg
10-03-2009, 05:27 PM
A sad day.

Graham
10-03-2009, 05:34 PM
doh! a ferfucksakes, welcome United States of Europe president Tony Blair!!, right where's the eject button? how do we get out? :P

Sol Invictus
10-03-2009, 06:08 PM
Bilderberg advances yet again. What a sad day for all of Europe.

British and Proud
10-03-2009, 08:29 PM
I understand the Tories have promised a referendum if the treaty has not been ratified when he takes power - the Czechs may just delay it long enough to either make Cameron look like a lying fud and will alienate much of his grass-roots support, or we will reject it.

Loki
10-03-2009, 08:36 PM
the Tories have promised ...

Their promises don't mean anything at all. The vast majority of it are lies.

RoyBatty
10-03-2009, 08:43 PM
I understand the Tories have promised a referendum if the treaty has not been ratified when he takes power - the Czechs may just delay it long enough to either make Cameron look like a lying fud and will alienate much of his grass-roots support, or we will reject it.

I'm with Loki on this one. A Tory promise isn't worth the paper it's printed on. Ditto with Labour or the LibDems.

Eton dopedealer Cameron is as corrupt as anyone in Westminster (exposed in recent expenses fiasco) yet interestingly enough the mainstream media chose not to spend as much time highlighting this as they did with other politicians.

As for delays, no votes, non-ratifications etc.... it's irrelevant really. Technicalities. Nothing more. The die has been cast. The EUSSR will arise.

RoyBatty
10-03-2009, 08:45 PM
doh! a ferfucksakes, welcome United States of Europe president Tony Blair!!, right where's the eject button? how do we get out? :P

Zere vill be no eskape. Velkom to HM's Open Prison!

Mc Queen
10-03-2009, 08:55 PM
A bad day for Europe.

British and Proud
10-03-2009, 10:07 PM
I understand the Tories have promised a referendum if the treaty has not been ratified when he takes power - the Czechs may just delay it long enough to either make Cameron look like a lying fud and will alienate much of his grass-roots support, or we will reject it.


Their promises don't mean anything at all. The vast majority of it are lies.


I'm with Loki on this one. A Tory promise isn't worth the paper it's printed on. Ditto with Labour or the LibDems.


Chaps if you noticed I stated that Cameron may not hold a referendum. However, if he's made to look like a liar, his credibility will be ruined and it could tear the Tory Party apart.