do you support gay couples raising children?

[Mortimer]

yes or no

[Didriksson]

Yes, I support it.

[MelinusMargos]

No, and I'll never do.

[Mortimer]

Yes, I support it.

in a openly gay relationship and household?

[ChocolateFace]

I don't support gay couples at all. So the question can't apply to me.

[Didriksson]

in a openly gay relationship and household?

Not supporting gay couples is like not supporting single moms and dads in a way. Having a mom and a dad, both being of different gender doesn't ensure the kid to be happy. Dad can be abusive, mom can drink, ect, so what's wrong with having two loving moms or two loving dads? You don't become gay just by seeing gay people, you born gay, so I don't understand what's wrong about gay people raising kids.

[alfieb]

Is one of them a biological parent?

If so, we have no right to object.

I am, however, against adoption by any nontraditional families.

[MelinusMargos]

Is one of them a biological parent?
If so, we have no right to object.

Still horrible

[Ice]

The fags need to be sterilised :D. In muslim countries we deny them so they can procreate and have fag children, so this practice will continue. Sterilising them will solve the problem. It means i'm also against fag marriage and child adoption for fag couples. Let them have a robot dog or something like that.

[alfieb]

Still horrible
So is a lot of stuff we have no right to do anything about.

LGBT people have the ability to have biological children just the same as anyone else, and being gay should not require them to be taken out of their child's lives.

[MelinusMargos]

The fags need to be sterilised :D. In muslim countries we deny them so they can procreate and have fag children, so this practice will continue. Sterilising them will solve the problem. It means i'm also against fag marriage and child adoption for fag couples. Let them have a robot dog or something like that.

No need to sterilyze them, nature itself will just prevent them from having child. The only thing to worry about is the possibility of allowing them to adopt childrens.

[Brighton]

Yes I do

[Brighton]

The fags need to be sterilised
This is why some gay people in the US hate Muslims so much, and why so many Democrats are happy when the soldiers kill a person such as the Boston terrorist..

[MelinusMargos]

This is why some gay people in the US hate Muslims so much, and why so many Democrats are happy when the soldiers kill a person such as the Boston terrorist..

This is why everyone hates US people so much, because they invent a false assault like that in Boston, they kill a random muslim with happiness saying he was a terrorist so that they have an excuse to invade some muslim country. And none suspects about the facts, they probably watch too much hollywood crap.

http://imageshack.us/a/img585/4041/63152320.jpg

[alfieb]

:lol:

"False assault"

And this is why nobody likes neonazis. You're all hateful conspiracy theorist nutjobs.

[Amun]

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/007/423/untitle.JPG

[Alenka]

I much rather see children adopted by a gay couple than, for example, left homeless on the streets. But even if the gay couple is very loving, I don't consider it the ideal option. I feel that way mainly because I'm sure the child would be a target of discrimination and be made fun of (maybe in other countries not, but here very likely).

I consider all of the following scenarios as much better than a child being alone, but I still think that the first option is the best one.

loving biological parents >
loving biological mother and stepfather >
loving biological father and stepmother >
loving biological single mother >
loving biological single father >
loving relative >
loving adoptive heterosexual couple >
loving adoptive homosexual couple >
loving adoptive heterosexual single person >
loving adoptive homosexual single person

[MelinusMargos]

:lol:

"False assault"

And this is why nobody likes neonazis. You're all hateful conspiracy theorist nutjobs.

I'm not a neo-nazi, you should look for info about this event because it had bad acting and it's easy to prove false.

[alfieb]

I'm not a neo-nazi,


Politics
National Socialist
Oh?


you should look for info about this event because it had bad acting and it's easy to prove false.
I did look into it, even as the investigation was taking place. Infowars had a lot of photos, with the intention of painting the US government / contractors as the perpetrators of the attack.

It was nonsense, but when someone already has an anti-American agenda, it was believable enough.

[Amun]

I much rather see children adopted by a gay couple than, for example, left homeless on the streets. But even if the gay couple is very loving, I don't consider it the ideal option. I feel that way mainly because I'm sure the child would be a target of discrimination and be made fun of (maybe in other countries not, but here very likely).

I consider all of the following scenarios as much better than a child being alone, but I still think that the first option is the best one.

loving biological parents >
loving biological mother and stepfather >
loving biological father and stepmother >
loving biological single mother >
loving biological single father >
loving relative >
loving adoptive heterosexual couple >
loving adoptive homosexual couple >
loving adoptive heterosexual single person >
loving adoptive homosexual single person

What will be the result of children raised by gay parents?
I actually don't support gay marriage from the first place to support the fact that they should adopt children. That's said, i agree about homeless or dysfunctional families should not adopt or raise children.

[Gorštak]

Who am I to forbid someone to date whoever he or she wants:shrug:
I have my own problems to think about.

[MelinusMargos]

@Alfieb

Nazi Germany is only one of the many expressions of nationalsocialism, do you think this (http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialismo_nazionale) has anything to share with Nazi Germany?

[Ivan Kramskoï]

No a child should be raised by a heterosexual couple in order for mental stability.

[1stLightHorse]

The problem with excluding gays is that they're still going to be gay.

What happens if your culture pressures people to live heterosexual lives and condemns the use of contraceptives in a very traditionalist setting?

You're going to end up with at least 5-10% of the male population having homosexual sex, unprotected with multiple partners, spreading disease who then go and marry an innocent woman who he infects, who when pregnant infects her own child. And i'm talking about HIV/AIDS.

In this sense traditionalist societies can actually fuck themselves up. There must be sense behind everything.

Let people be gay. Whether society accepts it or not, they're still going to be gay behind closed doors. It's better when society does accept them, so they keep among themselves unafraid. That being said. If you're a homosexual, in my opinion you've abandoned the natural right to have children. Whether you can actually procreate with another woman is not the point. It's the fact that they aren't heterosexually minded and therefore not survival minded = not fit to continue.

[MelinusMargos]

The problem with excluding gays is that they're still going to be gay.

What happens if your culture pressures people to live heterosexual lives and condemns the use of contraceptives in a very traditionalist setting?

You're going to end up with at least 5-10% of the male population having homosexual sex, unprotected with multiple partners, spreading disease who then go and marry an innocent woman who he infects, who when pregnant infects her own child. And i'm talking about HIV/AIDS.

In this sense traditionalist societies can actually fuck themselves up. There must be sense behind everything.

Let people be gay. Whether society accepts it or not, they're still going to be gay behind closed doors. It's better when society does accept them, so they keep among themselves unafraid. That being said. If you're a homosexual, in my opinion you've abandoned the natural right to have children. Whether you can actually procreate with another woman is not the point. It's the fact that they aren't heterosexually minded and therefore not survival minded = not fit to continue.

Exactly my thoughts.

[Amun]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/q77/s720x720/1001652_549936451729416_61751801_n.jpg

[alfieb]

@Alfieb

Nazi Germany is only one of the many expressions of nationalsocialism, do you think this (http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialismo_nazionale) has anything to share with Nazi Germany?

There's a reason the article you point to is titled differently while the article on Nazism that it links to is titled "nazionalsocialismo". If you don't endorse nazism, don't call yourself a national socialist. Until then, you're guilty by association.

[Geni]

No

[ChocolateFace]

Who am I to forbid someone to date whoever he or she wants:shrug:


What if an old guy was in "love" with a child? Should they still be allowed to date who they want?

Or what if a guy was in "love" with a sheep? Should they still be allowed to date who they want?

When will the line finally be crossed? Certain things are not natural for a reason.

[Gorštak]

What if an old guy was in "love" with a child? Should they still be allowed to date who they want?

Or what if a guy was in "love" with a sheep? Should they still be allowed to date who they want?

When will the line finally be crossed? Certain things are not natural for a reason.
I don't know I just don't think about it sincerely.
But now I should say as real fighter for gay rights that you can't compare that;)

[Annihilus]

As long as they don't adopt foreign children I don't really care, not my business anyway.

[ChocolateFace]

I don't know I just don't think about it sincerely.
But now I should say as real fighter for gay rights that you can't compare that;)

I can :icon_yes:

[Fortis in Arduis]

Yes, it can work. I remember one child at school with two mothers and she was delightful.

Obviously the adoption of children is a matter which should be decided on a case by case basis.

[Virtuous]

No, if the two subjects aren't designated by nature to procreate together I disagree with adoption. A child must have a paternal figure as well as a feminine one. Incessant promotion of red feminism, twisted sexual perversion and gay pride as a norm in the West has destroyed families. Families are the strength of a Nation. That is where the communists want to strike.

[Arianiti]

No a child should be raised by a heterosexual couple in order for mental stability.


No, if the two subjects aren't designated by nature to procreate together I disagree with adoption. A child must have a paternal figure as well as a feminine one. Incessant promotion of red feminism, twisted sexual perversion and gay pride as a norm in the West has destroyed families. Families are the strength of a Nation. That is where the communists want to strike.

Well said guys.

Why the hell they use rainbow as the symbol of gayism.

[Fortis in Arduis]

A child must have a paternal figure as well as a feminine one.

Some lesbians can be quite butch.

[RussiaPrussia]

no never

[Anglojew]

I fully support gays raising gay children.


In all seriousness I don't have a problem with it.

[Grenzland]

No, I don't support gay adoptions.



There's a reason the article you point to is titled differently while the article on Nazism that it links to is titled "nazionalsocialismo". If you don't endorse nazism, don't call yourself a national socialist. Until then, you're guilty by association.

National Socialism has many faces so there is not exact definition of NS.

[Virtuous]

Some lesbians can be quite butch.

Yeah...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2043345/The-California-boy-11-undergoing-hormone-blocking-treatment.html

[Neanderthal]

No, stop this madness

[Brighton]

This is why everyone hates US people so much, because they invent a false assault like that in Boston, they kill a random muslim with happiness saying he was a terrorist so that they have an excuse to invade some muslim country. And none suspects about the facts, they probably watch too much hollywood crap.
Well, with some Muslims being so intolerant and so discriminating against different people, they shouldn't expect people in Western countries to support them..

[MelinusMargos]

Well, with some Muslims being so intolerant and so discriminating against different people, they shouldn't expect people in Western countries to support them..

A gay is not a different person, am I a different person because I am a metalhead?
Should I claim absurd rights to protect me because I'm a metalhead? no, the reality is that metalheads and gays according to nature can do something things and some not. So it's their responsability to accept their limits and their decisions. A metalhead will most probably end up with no pussy until 47years old(that's my case :picard1:) and a gay wouldn't have children.
In my national socialist philosophic way of thinking gayism should be discouraged because it's a disgrace to the family(it stops the family line with disrespect to the ancestors), to the the society(demographic problem, less eterosexuals, less children, less people), moral problem, (more gays around more gay problems around) and because it's a symbol of weakness, a strong man/woman reacts to a wrong istinct and represses it. None is born gay, this is a legend by the system. There is no gene related to homosexuality as there is no gene related to metalheadness.

[Philo]

This is why everyone hates US people so much, because they invent a false assault like that in Boston, they kill a random muslim with happiness saying he was a terrorist so that they have an excuse to invade some muslim country. And none suspects about the facts, they probably watch too much hollywood crap.

http://imageshack.us/a/img585/4041/63152320.jpg
LOL. Did the USA invade a country ever since the Boston bombings took place?


The problem with excluding gays is that they're still going to be gay.

What happens if your culture pressures people to live heterosexual lives and condemns the use of contraceptives in a very traditionalist setting?

You're going to end up with at least 5-10% of the male population having homosexual sex, unprotected with multiple partners, spreading disease who then go and marry an innocent woman who he infects, who when pregnant infects her own child. And i'm talking about HIV/AIDS.

In this sense traditionalist societies can actually fuck themselves up. There must be sense behind everything.

Let people be gay. Whether society accepts it or not, they're still going to be gay behind closed doors. It's better when society does accept them, so they keep among themselves unafraid. That being said. If you're a homosexual, in my opinion you've abandoned the natural right to have children. Whether you can actually procreate with another woman is not the point. It's the fact that they aren't heterosexually minded and therefore not survival minded = not fit to continue.

That's what happens in Saudi Arabia, gay capital of the world:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnLTHHpKl60

[Smaland]

Be not deceived: evil communications corrupt good manners.

I Corinthians 15:33 (King James Version)

In other words, bad company corrupts good morals.

[King Claus]

No, those children will have traumatic experiences beyond our comprehension.

[MelinusMargos]

LOL. Did the USA invade a country ever since the Boston bombings took place?

They have to transform Americans into muslim-haters before, a good amount of residual hate can be enough to blur reasoning and to exploit poor people in order to save USA. Yes, because USA has no future without arab oil and Israel support.

[Queen B]

No, I don't support it.

[MelinusMargos]

That's what happens in Saudi Arabia, gay capital of the world

Fooled by the system, he should go there to understand the situation, I had been to Islamic countries and I never had any of these problems, problematic situations exist but they're isolated cases portrayed as a problem of every muslim. Maybe you forget that this is not just a problem of Islam but also a problem of Christianity, Judaism, etc...
Here the xenophobic is USA in my eyes.

[Maximum Speed]

Absolutely not.

[Roy]

No. But I think they often could be better at raising them than traditional couples. It's better to have this kind of family, than any or pathological which is often the case, especially in some countries in which there are no objections towards them. Still I am not fully convinced whether their psychological development would be fully harmonious.

[Pontios]

No, they should not be allowed to even adopt a child. How are 2 mothers or 2 fathers gonna raise a kid? It is against nature. A child needs a mother and a father...

[Aunt Hilda]

Yes

[riverman]

Sure. Why not.

[Grenzland]

Yes

Surprising! :D

[Aunt Hilda]

Surprising! :D
ja, ja, ja

[Grenzland]

ja, ja, ja

I support black gays! :D

[Aunt Hilda]

I support black gays! :D
good boy
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/33316/pat-head-o.gif

[Grenzland]

good boy

Am I liberal now? :D

[Aunt Hilda]

Am I liberal now? :D
fist you need to be initiated

[Grenzland]

fist you need to be initiated

What shall I do? :D

[Aunt Hilda]

What shall I do? :D

make some matzo-balls out of baby Catholics and eat them!

[Grenzland]

I don't want to harm babies! :(

[Aunt Hilda]

I don't want to harm babies! :(
pussy

[Moonbird]

Only if one of them is the child's biological parent. I don't think gays should be allowed to adopt children.

[bella1407]

GOD...NO!!!

[Temujin]

GOD...NO!!!

A friend of mine who is female told me she likes watching men having sex.

[wvwvw]

http://www.stupidgifs.com/images/full/535.gif

[Dandelion]

:lol:

"False assault"

And this is why nobody likes neonazis. You're all hateful conspiracy theorist nutjobs.

You might be in the lion's den in this forum. But yeah, skinheads and other neonazis aren't the brightest bunch indeed.

[Thelema]

No, I'm afraid these kids will be raped.

[Lisa335]

No, no and no! I do not understand it! It is horrible for me

[escobar_]

No.