Kosovo: hardline north Serbs install provisional parliament

[Baluarte]

(ANSAmed) - PRISTINA/BELGRADE, JULY 4 - Hardline Serbian opponents of a recent EU-mediated bilateral accord announced on Thursday they are setting up a provisional parliament in North Kosovo.

''We will defend Serbia's constitutional order and its state sovereignty'', said Leposavic Mayor Slavko Stevanovic, who was elected president of the new assembly. About 100 delegates from the four largest Serbian-majority North Kosovo municipalities gathered in Zvecan to install the new parliament. These include the cities of Leposavic, Zvecan, Zubin Potok, and the Serbian sector of Kosovska Mitrovica. ''Only a democratic and economically powerful Serbia can help the Serbian people of Kosovo, but we cannot accept the price of Serbia's entry into the EU: land loss and forced integration into a state we don't recognize'', added Stevanovic.

Both Kosovo and Serbia criticized the move, which Serbian authorities said undermines the position of their country and its people. (ANSAmed).

http://www.ansamed.info/ansamed/en/news/sections/politics/2013/07/04/Kosovo-hardline-north-Serbs-install-provisional-parliament_8977338.html

[alfieb]

''We will defend Serbia's constitutional order and its state sovereignty'', said Leposavic Mayor Slavko Stevanovic, who was elected president of the new assembly.

How do they intend to do that, considering that they are not agents of the Serbian government? :rolleyes:

[Crn Volk]

The Serbian Republic of Northern Kosovo is born!

[Stefan_Dusan]

Besides all this Serb vs Albanian talk that will follow I want to pause and admire stubbornness of my people.

Serbs are now 5-10% of Kosovo, with only 50% of those living in the municipalities mentioned. The rest are scattered across Kosovo in small pockets.

NATO continue tries to disarm them and integrate them in Kosovo. Sometimes by arms, which they don't have much to resist. Mostly rocks, sometimes occasional gun fire is exchanged and car bombs. However primitive they have to deal with the most technologically advance army on earth. To NATO credit, when violence starts, NATO often withdraws and negotiations happen to keep situation from escalating.

The rest (90+%) of population wants nothing for them to go and disappear. The area is sealed off and supplies have to be smuggled, because there is no real police this area is probably most dangerous in all of Kosovo and Balkan.

The Serbian state wants them to go away. Any attention brought to this issue threatens Serbia off course to EU. Serbia even arrests and detains these leaders if they catch them in Serbia, and keep them from Kosovo.

With hostilities at border checkpoints, supplies often are hard to come by.

With all this, NATO, being tiny minority, Serbia turning back, their stubbornness warms your heart. But you realize one more thing: they can easily go some kilometers north into Serbia and have better life and forget all of this. They have potential for that, but they don't go. They don't go out of stubbornness.

Kosovo Serbs are deeply hurt by Serbia EU march. Most don't want to be integrated into EU Serbia, and would settle for autonomous Kosovo area or even tiny republic.

[Marko]

a desperate attempt. It will change nothing, Serbia is more interested in joining the EU then holding onto Kosovo.

[Marko]

Besides all this Serb vs Albanian talk that will follow I want to pause and admire stubbornness of my people.

Serbs are now 5-10% of Kosovo, with only 50% of those living in the municipalities mentioned. The rest are scattered across Kosovo in small pockets.

NATO continue tries to disarm them and integrate them in Kosovo. Sometimes by arms, which they don't have much to resist. Mostly rocks, sometimes occasional gun fire is exchanged and car bombs. However primitive they have to deal with the most technologically advance army on earth. To NATO credit, when violence starts, NATO often withdraws and negotiations happen to keep situation from escalating.

The rest (90+%) of population wants nothing for them to go and disappear. The area is sealed off and supplies have to be smuggled, because there is no real police this area is probably most dangerous in all of Kosovo and Balkan.

The Serbian state wants them to go away. Any attention brought to this issue threatens Serbia off course to EU. Serbia even arrests and detains these leaders if they catch them in Serbia, and keep them from Kosovo.

With hostilities at border checkpoints, supplies often are hard to come by.

With all this, NATO, being tiny minority, Serbia turning back, their stubbornness warms your heart. But you realize one more thing: they can easily go some kilometers north into Serbia and have better life and forget all of this. They have potential for that, but they don't go. They don't go out of stubbornness.

Kosovo Serbs are deeply hurt by Serbia EU march. Most don't want to be integrated into EU Serbia, and would settle for autonomous Kosovo area or even tiny republic.

Sorry my friend but your statistics are wrong, according to 2011 Census Serbs make 1.5% of the population now.

[KrashNick]

Besides all this Serb vs Albanian talk that will follow I want to pause and admire stubbornness of my people.

Serbs are now 5-10% of Kosovo, with only 50% of those living in the municipalities mentioned. The rest are scattered across Kosovo in small pockets.

NATO continue tries to disarm them and integrate them in Kosovo. Sometimes by arms, which they don't have much to resist. Mostly rocks, sometimes occasional gun fire is exchanged and car bombs. However primitive they have to deal with the most technologically advance army on earth. To NATO credit, when violence starts, NATO often withdraws and negotiations happen to keep situation from escalating.

The rest (90+%) of population wants nothing for them to go and disappear. The area is sealed off and supplies have to be smuggled, because there is no real police this area is probably most dangerous in all of Kosovo and Balkan.

The Serbian state wants them to go away. Any attention brought to this issue threatens Serbia off course to EU. Serbia even arrests and detains these leaders if they catch them in Serbia, and keep them from Kosovo.

With hostilities at border checkpoints, supplies often are hard to come by.

With all this, NATO, being tiny minority, Serbia turning back, their stubbornness warms your heart. But you realize one more thing: they can easily go some kilometers north into Serbia and have better life and forget all of this. They have potential for that, but they don't go. They don't go out of stubbornness.

Kosovo Serbs are deeply hurt by Serbia EU march. Most don't want to be integrated into EU Serbia, and would settle for autonomous Kosovo area or even tiny republic.

95 % are Albanians , 5 % are Serbs,Gyspsy,Turks,Croats etc.

[Arianiti]

Besides all this Serb vs Albanian talk that will follow I want to pause and admire stubbornness of my people.

Serbs are now 5-10% of Kosovo, with only 50% of those living in the municipalities mentioned. The rest are scattered across Kosovo in small pockets.

NATO continue tries to disarm them and integrate them in Kosovo. Sometimes by arms, which they don't have much to resist. Mostly rocks, sometimes occasional gun fire is exchanged and car bombs. However primitive they have to deal with the most technologically advance army on earth. To NATO credit, when violence starts, NATO often withdraws and negotiations happen to keep situation from escalating.

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There is nothing to admire in your own people, and your attempt to victimize them is so hypocrite. Most of the Northern area Serbs are criminals paid and armed by Serbia that control that area and make life miserable to those who are normal citizens, including serbs. The most lawless area in the Europe is Northern part of Kosova, where Serbia keeps its criminals, drug dealers, contrabandists, war criminals, smugglers, human traffickers, skin-heads etc. Therefore, Northern part is nothing else but a Criminal Nest.

You give another false statement when you say that they are unarmed. Of course they are armed, and they showed it when they killed a Kosovan police, and two or three German KFOR soldiers. If NATO would want to screw that area they would in 2 hours wipe them out from the Earth's face. But the world is trying to solve this with political means and NATO tries to not interfere in political issues, and behave neutral. Even Kosova police would be able to deal with them worst than in Croatian Oluja Offensive, when they in 24 hours eradicated each trace of Serbs in that land.

Do you remember when US KFOR came in that area? They almost fcked all your criminals, as they don't play, but after they were replaced by German KFOR and you used their more diplomatic behavior and killed their solderis, you weak shitty criminals.

[Arianiti]

As for this shitty "parliament" :lol:, even each serb can have their own private parliament in their house but that would have the value of a zero, same as this shitty attempt that is not supported even by many servs of that part. Those are criminals that want to continue their rule and keep monopoly in that part.

[Arbërori]

It's sad that even Kosovo's Serbian citizens have to suffer this mess, when they want to start a new life in a new republic... Oh well, Serbs will be Serbs.

[Arianiti]

They need a fundamental change, but it is difficult as they always justify their deeds and feel proud of it. They never reflect man and have major problem with themselves. The whole Serbia shall be transformed to a mental sanatorium , They need to be cured man :lol:

[Loki]

Why doesn't the Serb-majority northern tip of Kosovo join Serbia? It only makes sense. Why are they being denied that?

[KrashNick]

Why doesn't the Serb-majority northern tip of Kosovo join Serbia? It only makes sense. Why are they being denied that?
It not so easy as you think . If they want the North Kosovo than Albanians in Preseva ,Bujanoc , Medvegja will join in Kosovo and in Mitrova it is a mine called "Trepca Mine" were both nationality have interest on it

[Loki]

It not so easy as you think . If they want the North Kosovo than Albanians in Preseva ,Bujanoc , Medvegja will join in Kosovo and in Mitrova it is a mine called "Trepca Mine" were both nationality have interest on it

Forget about the mines. A divide by ethnic groups would be the best in the long run for peace.

[KrashNick]

Forget about the mines. A divide by ethnic groups would be the best in the long run for peace.

Trust that will make more trouble for both of them . Just Serbs in North Kosovo still don't recognize Kosovo as state because in other places they live normal like all people in Kosovo . And even in Kosovo in government is a Serbian minister and parliamentarian serbs . We will accept them if they want to live here in peace .

[Loki]

We will accept them if they want to live here in peace .

What if they don't want to live with you? Should they be part of Kosovo against their will? There should be a referendum in those parts.

[KrashNick]

What if they don't want to live with you? Should they be part of Kosovo against their will? There should be a referendum in those parts.

That is the reason why we have problems . Kosovo prime minister and Serbia prime minister are still meeting with each other and they made some agreement for North Kosovo where they will live in Kosovo as all people . Serbia accept it but the problem is that Serbs there refuse it .

[Loki]

That is the reason why we have problems . Kosovo prime minister and Serbia prime minister are still meeting with each other and they made some agreement for North Kosovo where they will live in Kosovo as all people . Serbia accept it but the problem is that Serbs there refuse it .

It's the will of the people that matters.

[RussiaPrussia]

It's sad that even Kosovo's Serbian citizens have to suffer this mess, when they want to start a new life in a new republic... Oh well, Serbs will be Serbs.

albanians will be albanians. If kosovo has independence than north kosovo should getting its too you hypocrites

[Marko]

Why doesn't the Serb-majority northern tip of Kosovo join Serbia? It only makes sense. Why are they being denied that?

Kosovo has won its independence, the Serbs surrendered. Now they can go live in Serbia if they want. But Kosovo will not give away its land to fascists. The borders are final, Kosovo is Kosovo.

[KrashNick]

albanians will be albanians. If kosovo has independence than north kosovo should getting its too you hypocrites
Well Serbia has their Republic in Bosnia but did you see any good result on it ??

[Loki]

Kosovo has won its independence, the Serbs surrendered. Now they can go live in Serbia if they want. But Kosovo will not give away its land to fascists. The borders are final, Kosovo is Kosovo.

Who's the fascist now?

[Marko]

Who's the fascist now?
Serbs who kill catholic and muslim women and children because they want to rob them of property and possessions like the Nazis did to Europe.

[Stefan_Dusan]

There is nothing to admire in your own people, and your attempt to victimize them is so hypocrite. Most of the Northern area Serbs are criminals paid and armed by Serbia that control that area and make life miserable to those who are normal citizens, including serbs. The most lawless area in the Europe is Northern part of Kosova, where Serbia keeps its criminals, drug dealers, contrabandists, war criminals, smugglers, human traffickers, skin-heads etc. Therefore, Northern part is nothing else but a Criminal Nest.

You give another false statement when you say that they are unarmed. Of course they are armed, and they showed it when they killed a Kosovan police, and two or three German KFOR soldiers. If NATO would want to screw that area they would in 2 hours wipe them out from the Earth's face. But the world is trying to solve this with political means and NATO tries to not interfere in political issues, and behave neutral. Even Kosova police would be able to deal with them worst than in Croatian Oluja Offensive, when they in 24 hours eradicated each trace of Serbs in that land.

Do you remember when US KFOR came in that area? They almost fcked all your criminals, as they don't play, but after they were replaced by German KFOR and you used their more diplomatic behavior and killed their solderis, you weak shitty criminals.

Any other people would be gone, but Serbs remain. That is the mentality of a prideful people. And what you say is wrong, Serbia itself arrests these leaders and tries to prevent weapons from being smuggled to them. It hurts Serbia's EU goals. Everyone is against them, NATO, the rest of Serbia, the vast vast majority of people in Kosovo, yet they remain, persist and only few thousand of them. Yes, if NATO launches push they can clean this tiny people, so could Kosovo police as there are 10 times Kosovo police as them, but in end that would provoke war and that's why it's not done.

[Arianiti]

Why doesn't the Serb-majority northern tip of Kosovo join Serbia? It only makes sense. Why are they being denied that?

Why shouldn't Presheva Valley and all other Albanians regions in Serbia proper get independence? Why Vojvodina e Sandzak do not get their independence, too?

Northern part has also lots of Albanians living there who were ousted from their homes and flats by serbs. That is not serbian.

[Stefan_Dusan]

Why shouldn't Presheva Valley and all other Albanians regions in Serbia proper get independence? Why Vojvodina e Sandzak do not get their independence, too?

Northern part has also lots of Albanians living there who were ousted from their homes and flats by serbs. That is not serbian.

Kosovo Serbs are not in northern Kosovo to break away and join Serbia. Unlike Bosnia, this would be like what? 5% of land in Kosovo? You might as well lose all Kosovo. They are there, to put dispute on border between Serbia/Kosovo. If they wanted to just be part of Serbia, they would just go some kilometers north. But they deeply hate Serbian government and their direction and I have heard people talking openly about assassinations of leaders.

Vojvodina doesn't want independence and it's majority Serb anyway. Same with Sandzak.

[Arianiti]

Any other people would be gone, but Serbs remain. That is the mentality of a prideful people. And what you say is wrong, Serbia itself arrests these leaders and tries to prevent weapons from being smuggled to them. It hurts Serbia's EU goals. Everyone is against them, NATO, the rest of Serbia, the vast vast majority of people in Kosovo, yet they remain, persist and only few thousand of them. Yes, if NATO launches push they can clean this tiny people, so could Kosovo police as there are 10 times Kosovo police as them, but in end that would provoke war and that's why it's not done.


There is nothing prideful there, stealing others flats and homes and living there covered by crime. No one hates them, it is them that hate the whole world, as they mostly are outlwas. They are only bunch crimianals, collected in one place and led by Serbia instructions.

[Stefan_Dusan]

There is nothing prideful there, stealing others flats and homes and living there covered by crime. No one hates them, it is them that hate the whole world, as they mostly are outlwas. They are only bunch crimianals, collected in one place and led by Serbia instructions.

What you don't understand is that they're not led by Serbia. Serbia arrests them whenever possible. You see Serbia wants to join EU and to do that they have to give up Kosovo. But giving up Kosovo is political suicide, so they want to do it quietly. These Kosovo Serbs won't let it be quiet. And the politicians north don't know what to do. Did you know many of them publicly renounced Serbian citizenship?

[Arianiti]

Kosovo Serbs are not in northern Kosovo to break away and join Serbia. Unlike Bosnia, this would be like what? 5% of land in Kosovo? You might as well lose all Kosovo. They are there, to put dispute on border between Serbia/Kosovo. If they wanted to just be part of Serbia, they would just go some kilometers north. But they deeply hate Serbian government and their direction and I have heard people talking openly about assassinations of leaders.

Vojvodina doesn't want independence and it's majority Serb anyway. Same with Sandzak.


They can not break away as that is not Serbian land. Most of that part is Albanian property which has been occupied by war criminals and other criminals.

Sandzak wants to separate, so do Albanians in Presheva Valley.

[Arianiti]

What you don't understand is that they're not led by Serbia. Serbia arrests them whenever possible. You see Serbia wants to join EU and to do that they have to give up Kosovo. But giving up Kosovo is political suicide, so they want to do it quietly. These Kosovo Serbs won't let it be quiet. And the politicians north don't know what to do. Did you know many of them publicly renounced Serbian citizenship?

They worked by Serbia instructions until now, maybe now when Serbia left them down they oppose her too. They can not live as a separate entity in Kosova as they are lawless people. They should integrate into Kosova institution like all other minorities. Thats it and they have no other way.

You try to make everywhere problems but you will fail here, and they have to return houses and land to legal owners.

[Stefan_Dusan]

Sandzak wants to separate, so do Albanians in Presheva Valley.

If Sandzak separates it would go with Bosnia not Albania. Those are Muslim Serbs, but majority don't want to separate as they're not molested and Bosnia has more problems than Serbia. As to Preshevo, I think majority of Albanians say they want more rights but not necessarily separation. But maybe what they say to Serbs is one and what they say to Albanians is other.

[Arianiti]

If Sandzak separates it would go with Bosnia not Albania. Those are Muslim Serbs, but majority don't want to separate as they're not molested and Bosnia has more problems than Serbia. As to Preshevo, I think majority of Albanians say they want more rights but not necessarily separation. But maybe what they say to Serbs is one and what they say to Albanians is other.

Sandzak for sure wants to separate. I am not saying that they want to join Kosova or Albania, they are of Albanian descendant though, but Bosnia. You remember the war in Presheva Valley. so that is a clear indiication that they want to separate. That would be the best thing in Balkan and former Yugoslavia, to create purely ethnic states.

[Stefan_Dusan]

Sandzak for sure wants to separate. I am not saying that they want to join Kosova or Albania, they are of Albanian descendant though, but Bosnia. You remember the war in Presheva Valley. so they is a clear indiication that they want to separate. That would be the best thing in Balkan and former Yugoslavia, to create purely ethnic states.

Maybe some 50 people died in that "war." I consider it spill-over from Kosovo as many entered from Kosovo. If majority wanted independence, fighting would continue.

[Arianiti]

Maybe some 50 people died in that "war." I consider it spill-over from Kosovo as many entered from Kosovo. If majority wanted independence, fighting would continue.

They had to stop the war due to the international involvement and let's say order. I think international community has clearly stated that they would not support their separation from Serbia proper, so that's why they had to agree, but only after the Albanian community gained some further rights, I think.

[Thelema]

It was a big mistake since the beginning to put you all guys together and call it "Yugoslavia". The same shit happened to Soviet Union, when retarded Jews put people like Russians, Tajiks and Estonians in one country. What can Tajiks and Russians have in common? Nothing, the first one are Asians, the seconds are normal White people. I would deport y'all from your countries to different parts of the world so you could shut up about this shitty Kosovo. Get a life.

KOSOVO FOR ESTONIANS!!!

[Skerdilaid]

Northern part is not purely Serbian and it has never been. Majority were kicked out and now days they live else where because KFOR won't let them return. All Serbs that left Kosova have had the opportunity to return or if they wanted to sell their property. Why should this option be denied to the Albanians of the North?

I say it's purely politics. The west is being soft with Serbia and she is exploiting this. Most people that reside there now days are in no way ideal citizens and a lot of them are Croatian refugees. All paramilitaries that served in Kosova have had the opportunity to get a free flat there and let's be honest there is no economy there, so they are definitely sponsored by the Serbian budged that gets divided for Kosova.

[Stefan_Dusan]

It was a big mistake since the beginning to put you all guys together and call it "Yugoslavia". The same shit happened to Soviet Union, when retarded Jews put people like Russians, Tajiks and Estonians in one country. What can Tajiks and Russians have in common? Nothing, the first one are Asians, the seconds are normal White people. I would deport y'all from your countries to different parts of the world so you could shut up about this shitty Kosovo. Get a life.

KOSOVO FOR ESTONIANS!!!

The Russian empire itself has many Asians.

[Thelema]

The Russian empire itself has many Asians.
Russian empire doesn't exist anymore. Though we still have some Asian people in the far east, but they aren't bad guys. I know some Yakuts.

[RandoBloom]

Sandzak wants independence. Just because corupt politicians like Rasim Ljajic and company get money to say otherwise aint worth shit.

As for Serbs in north they are lawless beasts. When I was in Mitrovica all I saw during night was "serbian patrols" a bunch of Skinheads and criminal afilees who patrol streets in their cars and prevent people from living their life. Try crossing the bridge with Kosovo plates and go to "serbian" side. They need to be slapped a good nice slap, since that is the only time that serbia stops with kurcenje and behaves normaly, just like a spoiled brat.

[Stefan_Dusan]

Northern part is not purely Serbian and it has never been. Majority were kicked out and now days they live else where because KFOR won't let them return. All Serbs that left Kosova have had the opportunity to return or if they wanted to sell their property. Why should this option be denied to the Albanians of the North?

I say it's purely politics. The west is being soft with Serbia and she is exploiting this. Most people that reside there now days are in no way ideal citizens and a lot of them are Croatian refugees. All paramilitaries that served in Kosova have had the opportunity to get a free flat there and let's be honest there is no economy there, so they are definitely sponsored by the Serbian budged that gets divided for Kosova.

They renounced Serbian citizenship. They are not sponsored by Serbs, and they make life problematic for Serbian politicians in north which is why they get arrested if caught in Serbia. It's true goods come to them, sometimes smuggled, sometimes shipped. But what is funny is Russia sends more supplies than Serbia.

[Skerdilaid]

They renounced Serbian citizenship. They are not sponsored by Serbs, and they make life problematic for Serbian politicians in north which is why they get arrested if caught in Serbia. It's true goods come to them, sometimes smuggled, sometimes shipped. But what is funny is Russia sends more supplies than Serbia.

Stefan are you being naïve or you just don't understand Serbian politics?

What Serbia says and does have always been tow different things.

[Stefan_Dusan]

Stefan are you being naïve or you just don't understand Serbian politics?

What Serbia says and does have always been tow different things.

That's partly true, there are rightwing elements of government supporting them, but they are not main ones in power. Most important to me is what the Serbs in the north think and they don't think Serbia is supporting them. They feel abandoned which is why they renounced citizenship.

[Arianiti]

Serbia has always used Kosovan Serbs for its political benefits. The break down of Yugoslavia has started exactly in Kosova, Fushe Kosova/o Polje with Milosevic's speech, in 1987 (or 86??_

Even now, everyone in Serbia knows that Kosova is a long forgotten story, and instead of stimulating serbs to create their future in Kosova and integrate within, they try through them to get political benefits from IC, like EU candidate, and servs in Kosova remain uncertain, shall they integrate with Kosova, or wait for the sneaky, back-stabbing Serbia.

There is no other nation in Kosova that has more rights than servs, So what the heck they want?

[The.Mask]

There is no other nation in Kosova that has more rights than servs, So what the heck they want?

They want war i guess, hehehe:laugh:

[RandoBloom]

They want war i guess, hehehe:laugh:

They will get it. And suck at it big time, like always :)