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ButlerKing
07-07-2013, 01:18 AM
I really don't care if Finns are closest to Cro-magnum and there is no data to suggestn Uralic were Cro-magnum. There is one thing you can't deny and that is the frequencies of haplogroup I in finns.;)


Haplogroup I which makes up for 29% of Y-DNA of Finns. Even the mtDNA of Finns are nearly indistinguishable from Norwegian and Swedish. You couldn't possibly be a originally Uralic population.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b6/I_Distribution.jpg
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~villandra/McKinstry/I2b1/haplogroupI1.gif

" With regard to the Y-chromosome, the most common haplogroups of the Finns are N1c (58%), I (29%), R1a (7.5%) and R1b (3.5%).[41] Haplogroup N1c, which is found only in a few countries in Europe (Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Finland and Russia), is a subgroup of the haplogroup N (Y-DNA) distributed across northern Eurasia and estimated in a recent study to be 10,000–20,000 years old and suggested to have entered Europe about 12,000–14,000 years ago from Asia.[42]

RussiaPrussia
07-07-2013, 01:21 AM
so russians are the only uralics in europe

ButlerKing
07-07-2013, 01:24 AM
This clearly proves one thing. Finns couldn't have possibly be the origin of haplogroup N, and they couldn't possibly be pure Uralic or original Uralic because haplogroup I is a North European marker reaching 47% in Norway and 35% in Sweden and Finns themselves have 29%.


Russians are not Uralic either, only Uralics from Siberia were and are true Uralic.

riverman
07-07-2013, 01:24 AM
so russians are the only uralics in europe


russains aren't uralics, just uralic strain sometime, many pics of Russians I've seen they look more like west and baltid cross, or just east European looking, without uralic.

Smeagol
07-07-2013, 02:30 AM
so russians are the only uralics in europe

:picard1:

RussiaPrussia
07-07-2013, 02:39 AM
This clearly proves one thing. Finns couldn't have possibly be the origin of haplogroup N, and they couldn't possibly be pure Uralic or original Uralic because haplogroup I is a North European marker reaching 47% in Norway and 35% in Sweden and Finns themselves have 29%.


Russians are not Uralic either, only Uralics from Siberia were and are true Uralic.

which russians mixed with

http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s666/malaria2000/ejhg2008101f1_zpsa30e07f5.jpg

Samoyed are also north east asians

http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s666/malaria2000/Populations_zps12f08d12.png

while fins who are related to far east turks which are arctic people

Smeagol
07-07-2013, 02:46 AM
which russians mixed with

Not to a large extent. Russians are mostly West Eurasian.

Smaug
07-07-2013, 02:55 AM
I am so tired of you...