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Atlantic Islander
07-11-2013, 02:17 AM
VIDEO HERE. (http://screen.yahoo.com/nikola-tesla-badass-inventor-dnews-130000991.html)

Nikola Tesla was one amazing inventor. More than 100 years later, his visionary work remains essential today for life as we know it. Trace shows us some of his best inventions, and proves why he's such a badass.

source (http://screen.yahoo.com/nikola-tesla-badass-inventor-dnews-130000991.html)

Gorštak
07-11-2013, 02:20 AM
Great Croat, indeed.

Loki
07-11-2013, 02:21 AM
Serb

Stefan_Dusan
07-11-2013, 02:21 AM
Great Croat, indeed.

He was Serb.

Skerdilaid
07-11-2013, 02:22 AM
Bosnian Croat

Guapo
07-11-2013, 03:03 AM
Above posters are referring to this supposed quote of his: Nikola Tesla never said that he is proud of his Croatian motherland and Serbian descent. He was always clearly saying that he is a Serb, and in time when he lived Croatia didn't exist. He was born in Austria-Hungary, in its province called the Millitary Borderland (in Serbian Vojna Krajina), where the majority of population were Serbs. Croatia became a republic of Yugoslavia in 1945, and Tesla died in 1943.

He was of Serbian nationality and Orthodox, and of Croatian domicile ( Tesla's youth was the age in which the Croatian and pan-slavic ideas were the strongest... They resulted with State of Slovenes, Croats and Serbs in 1917. Although not precisely depicted, attributed quote was dated in 1936, and is said to be an response to birthday telegrame of a Yugoslav politician from Croatia... Full quote supossedly says: "As many as I'm proud of my Croatian homeland and Serbian origin, the way you politicians act in (Kingdom of) Yugoslavia I'll have nothing to return to..."

Melina
07-11-2013, 03:33 AM
VIDEO HERE. (http://screen.yahoo.com/nikola-tesla-badass-inventor-dnews-130000991.html)

Nikola Tesla was one amazing inventor. More than 100 years later, his visionary work remains essential today for life as we know it. Trace shows us some of his best inventions, and proves why he's such a badass.

source (http://screen.yahoo.com/nikola-tesla-badass-inventor-dnews-130000991.html)

To bad Edison stole his work. And sad that Tesla lived in poverty his last years.

Loki
07-11-2013, 03:40 AM
Tesla was one of the most awesome scientists ever.

Gorštak
07-11-2013, 03:48 AM
Tesla was one of the most awesome scientists ever.
They said that he died as virgin.

Methmatician
07-11-2013, 04:03 AM
It's a shame he never got to finish his raygun.

Sisak
07-11-2013, 06:46 AM
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Swearengen
07-11-2013, 08:20 AM
They said that he died as virgin.

Same with Newton.

INTJ master race apparently can't reproduce.

Trun
07-11-2013, 08:28 AM
Reading his biography, I see many similarities between him and me. Same height, same weight, we both enjoy long walking. We even look alike. Too bad I'm not a genius like he was.

Twistedmind
07-11-2013, 08:40 AM
Tesla went from his home in Croatia because he could not stand the fact that one day he could become a priest like his father. Exist some data he did not like his parents and ran away from home, removes all ties with family and occasionally he sent money for education of his relatives.
He especially liked the Croats and returned to Croatia to scientific meetings in Zagreb. As part of Serb origin I can say that he was thinking as a Croat. As many Croats of that time he studying at university in Austria, the college was never finished. About Belgrade he had the same opinion as me and said that he does not like the city and will never go back there. He visited Serbia only one time.

His relatives were more or less Serbian nationalists. What kind of "part Serbian origin". He was full Serb, and by the way, he never was planned to be priest, he left Austro-Hungary because gambling debths. He was studing engineering not Orthodx theology. :D

Lemon Kush
07-11-2013, 08:46 AM
There's no such thing as "part Serbian origin" You're either Serb or your not.

Loki
07-11-2013, 09:00 AM
Kosovo je Srbija

http://www.gamnesia.com/images/uploads/396932_10151037557357022_115491826_n.jpg

Methusalem
07-11-2013, 09:07 AM
That's not news. He was surely a great inventor but I think most of his 'unknown and undiscovered inventions' are just made up myths.

Aunt Hilda
07-11-2013, 09:09 AM
great Croat! :laugh:

Arianiti
07-11-2013, 09:14 AM
Reading his biography, I see many similarities between him and me. Same height, same weight, we both enjoy long walking. We even look alike. Too bad I'm not a genius like he was.

You still have time. Maybe one day .. and we will tell to others with pride how we wrote in same forum with you :P

Sisak
07-11-2013, 12:09 PM
Kosovo je Srbija

http://www.gamnesia.com/images/uploads/396932_10151037557357022_115491826_n.jpg

Why did you put this old picture of him? There are many pictures where he is beautiful and young.

Loki
07-11-2013, 12:10 PM
Why did you put this old picture of him? There are many pictures where he is beautiful and young.

I know, it's a bit of an inside joke. We once had a troll called Kosovo je Srbija, and he used that pic as avatar :P

Insuperable
07-11-2013, 01:10 PM
His relatives were more or less Serbian nationalists. What kind of "part Serbian origin". He was full Serb, and by the way, he never was planned to be priest, he left Austro-Hungary because gambling debths. He was studing engineering not Orthodx theology. :D

How much of this is true?


"I'm glad that Croats consider me one of their own, since my forefathers, the Draganić family from Zadar have Croatian roots. They belonged to the Croatian nobility who came to Lika in the 16th century and they remained there. Ancestors of my mother, the Kalinić family, are from Novi Vinodolski. They also were a noble family. My great-grandfather, due to life circumstances had to go to Bosnian Krajina (which at that time was a part of Croatia under the Turks) where he married a young woman of orthodox faith and changed his religion. He had buck teeth and people gave him a nick name “tesla” after a wood-working tool, a plane. So, the Tesla surname is actually a sobriquet. My grandfather was an officer in the Lika regiment and my father was an orthodox archpriest.”

Loki
07-11-2013, 01:14 PM
How much of this is true?

Maybe he had some Croatian ancestors far back. That doesn't make him a Croat. This sentence confirms that he considered himself to be a Serb:

"I'm glad that Croats consider me one of their own"

No real Croat would say such a thing, there would be no doubt.

Thelema
07-11-2013, 01:16 PM
With respect to Croatians, but I don't understand why you're trying to make him Croatian, most of the world know him as Serb

Permafrost
07-11-2013, 01:20 PM
A brilliant man for sure, although can't help myself but to think that he's a little bit overrated.

Sure, he made huge contributions in fields of electrical engineering and magnetism, ultimately though the two biggest names in modern physics are Planck and Einstein, and tbh he's not coming close to either of one (the hype surrounding him says otherwise).
Rumors about his inventions re-emerging in the 90ies seem conspiracy theories for the most part.

Loki
07-11-2013, 01:23 PM
Sure, he made huge contributions in fields of electrical engineering and magnetism, ultimately though the two biggest names in modern physics are Planck and Einstein, and tbh he's not coming close to either of one (the hype surrounding him says otherwise).


He was much smarter than Einstein.

Loki
07-11-2013, 01:27 PM
I've read somewhere that Tesla's IQ is estimated at around 200. That's at the level of Leonardo da Vinci, a universal genius. Einstein doesn't come close even.

Insuperable
07-11-2013, 01:34 PM
Maybe he had some Croatian ancestors far back. That doesn't make him a Croat. This sentence confirms that he considered himself to be a Serb:

"I'm glad that Croats consider me one of their own"

No real Croat would say such a thing, there would be no doubt.

I know. I am not blind.


Above posters are referring to this supposed quote of his: Nikola Tesla never said that he is proud of his Croatian motherland and Serbian descent. He was always clearly saying that he is a Serb, and in time when he lived Croatia didn't exist. He was born in Austria-Hungary, in its province called the Millitary Borderland (in Serbian Vojna Krajina), where the majority of population were Serbs. Croatia became a republic of Yugoslavia in 1945, and Tesla died in 1943.

He was of Serbian nationality and Orthodox, and of Croatian domicile ( Tesla's youth was the age in which the Croatian and pan-slavic ideas were the strongest... They resulted with State of Slovenes, Croats and Serbs in 1917. Although not precisely depicted, attributed quote was dated in 1936, and is said to be an response to birthday telegrame of a Yugoslav politician from Croatia... Full quote supossedly says: "As many as I'm proud of my Croatian homeland and Serbian origin, the way you politicians act in (Kingdom of) Yugoslavia I'll have nothing to return to..."

It did not go that way.

Free translation
Vladko Maček said: "I address to Son of the Serbian kin and Croatian homeland"
Tesla responed: I am proud of both

Permafrost
07-11-2013, 01:37 PM
I've read somewhere that Tesla's IQ is estimated at around 200. That's at the level of Leonardo da Vinci, a universal genius. Einstein doesn't come close even.

I would never rely this much on a mere IQ test in the first place, but be it your way. What about Einstein's IQ? Was it ever measured to begin with?

Why I believe Einstein was such a genious is because he managed to predict phenomena incomprehensible at that time (just one example is gravitational lens), only with mathematical formulas. To actually discover that gravity is able to bend light before gaining empirical evidence on the matter is a noteworthy feat.

Hence, at least in abstract thinking, Tesla was no match for him.

Drawing-slim
07-11-2013, 01:37 PM
I've read somewhere that Tesla's IQ is estimated at around 200. That's at the level of Leonardo da Vinci, a universal genius. Einstein doesn't come close even.
Is anyone considered smarter than da Vinci!? That guy must have been the smartest

safinator
07-11-2013, 01:38 PM
I've read somewhere that Tesla's IQ is estimated at around 200. That's at the level of Leonardo da Vinci, a universal genius. Einstein doesn't come close even.

Estimated IQ isn't reliable, actually Goethe had an estimated IQ of 210 ;)

Loki
07-11-2013, 01:39 PM
Is anyone considered smarter than da Vinci!? That guy must have been the smartest

I think most people regard him as the pinnacle.

Loki
07-11-2013, 01:41 PM
Estimated IQ isn't reliable, actually Goethe had an estimated IQ of 210 ;)

Sure. But it gives us an indication of how intelligent some historical figures are viewed.

Einstein's IQ is considered to have been around 160, same as Stephen Hawking:

http://www.space.com/15524-albert-einstein.html

Btw Goethe was absolutely brilliant, also a universal genius.

Loki
07-11-2013, 01:42 PM
Hence, at least in abstract thinking, Tesla was no match for him.

I would disagree. Tesla was at least 100 years ahead of his time, his mind had no barriers.

Insuperable
07-11-2013, 01:42 PM
I think most people regard him as the pinnacle.

Leonhard Euler would be my choice. He is often regarded as the best mathematician in the history. It is estimated that if someone would copy his works by hand eight hours per day it would took 50 years

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_things_named_after_Leonhard_Euler

Loki
07-11-2013, 01:47 PM
Leonhard Euler would be my choice. He is often regarded as the best mathematician in the history. It is estimated that if someone would copy his works by hand eight hours per day it would took 50 years

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_things_named_after_Leonhard_Euler

He was a mathematician and a physicist.

Da Vinci was a polymath, a "Renaissance man" (universal genius). He excelled in many fields. He was a painter, sculptor, architect, musician, mathematician, engineer, inventor, anatomist, geologist, cartographer, botanist, and writer.

Stefan_Dusan
07-11-2013, 01:52 PM
Tesla was man behind Alternating Current (that powers all our electricity) and concept of using electromagnetic waves to send information (radio, cell phones). We owe modern world to Tesla. Can you imagine what it would be without electricity to power our cities and wireless communication?

Insuperable
07-11-2013, 01:53 PM
He was a mathematician and a physicist.

Da Vinci was a polymath, a "Renaissance man" (universal genius). He excelled in many fields. He was a painter, sculptor, architect, musician, mathematician, engineer, inventor, anatomist, geologist, cartographer, botanist, and writer.

painter blah, musician blah, sculptor blah, botanist blah, writer blah:p

No, I am joking obviously, but Euler is Euler

Insuperable
07-11-2013, 01:55 PM
Tesla was man behind Alternating Current (that powers all our electricity) and concept of using electromagnetic waves to send information (radio, cell phones). We owe modern world to Tesla. Can you imagine what it would be without electricity to power our cities and wireless communication?

Many of his discoveries were just independent discoveries, some made even after. Everything you wrote was nothing new at the time of Tesla discoveries.

His most biggest discoveries was wireless transmission of electric power

Stefan_Dusan
07-11-2013, 01:57 PM
Many of his discoveries were just independent discoveries, some made even after. Everything you wrote was nothing new at the time of Tesla discoveries.

His most biggest discoveries was transmission of electricity to

euler and newton independently discovered calculus which is what euler is mostly known for. But he was first to come with concept of alternating current and he was first to work out how electromagnetic waves will be used for transmission of information.

Insuperable
07-11-2013, 01:59 PM
euler and newton independently discovered calculus which is what euler is mostly known for. But he was first to come with concept of alternating current and he was first to work out how electromagnetic waves will be used for transmission of information.

Euler did not discover modern calculus (you meant Leibniz), but he advanced it the most after Gauss. Tesla was not the sole man behind the concept of the alternating current nor the first and he was not the first of the latter either. Get some facts!

Drawing-slim
07-11-2013, 02:06 PM
I just read somewhere Benjamin Netanyahu has an IQ over 180.

Loki
07-11-2013, 02:07 PM
I just read somewhere Benjamin Netanyahu has an IQ of over 180,

That's interesting.

Stefan_Dusan
07-11-2013, 02:11 PM
Euler did not discover modern calculus (you meant Leibniz), but he advanced it the most after Gauss. Tesla was not the sole man behind the concept of the alternating current nor the first and he was not the first of the latter either. Get some facts!

No one is first or sole in anything. We all build off achievements of others. Newton's most famous quote is "I stood on shoulder's of giants"

But some achievements radically change world and those were man of Tesla. Easily most inventive engineer ever, and easily one of 10 best thinkers of all time, over all people.

Drawing-slim
07-11-2013, 02:18 PM
That's interesting.

Hell yea! listed top 5 most intelligent people in the world most likely we have heard of. with this massive brain he is already the leader of Israel on top of it.. Who knows what he is up to!:D

Insuperable
07-11-2013, 02:26 PM
No one is first or sole in anything. We all build off achievements of others. Newton's most famous quote is "I stood on shoulder's of giants"

But some achievements radically change world and those were man of Tesla. Easily most inventive engineer ever, and easily one of 10 best thinkers of all time, over all people.

I respect Tesla and yeah one of the smartest people ever, but when people know to talk only about Tesla and say that he is the man behind the alternating current and wireless transmission of information I know that they know nothing.

Lets take alternating current for consideration (not even the first)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_Ferraris
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternating_current#History
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hopkinson
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Dolivo-Dobrovolsky
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-phase_electric_power
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-Δ_transform
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Proteus_Steinmetz
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_August_Haselwander
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Stanley,_Jr.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucien_Gaulard
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC_motor#History

discovered by Fortescue and claimed as the most important discovery in the 20th century power engineering. It is impossible to envision todays ac polyphase system without this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symmetrical_components

and so on. So when people mention Tesla and AC they lack a lot of info

Stefan_Dusan
07-11-2013, 02:34 PM
and so on. So when people mention Tesla and AC they lack a lot of info

Tesla was not discover of concept of AC but he was discover of how to implement AC to power our cities and our homes. Proof is in his patents and him being first to demonstrate it. Same thing with radio waves. One problem is to discover concept. Another problem is how to use concept to better our lives.

Insuperable
07-11-2013, 02:38 PM
Tesla was not discover of concept of AC but he was discover of how to implement AC to power our cities and our homes. Proof is in his patents and him being first to demonstrate it. Same thing with radio waves. One problem is to discover concept. Another problem is how to use concept to better our lives.

Wow sudden change of heart considering post number 40. Anyway again no and as I have said his greatest discovery was the demonstration of wireless transmission of energy, but yet again not that much different from the wireless signal transmission.

Stefan_Dusan
07-11-2013, 02:41 PM
Wow sudden change of heart considering post number 40. Anyway again no and as I have said his greatest discovery was the demonstration of wireless transmission of energy.

There is no difference what I said. I said he was "man behind AC to power ..." not man behind theoretical concept of AC. I might not have been clear enough but I think it's worded ok.

Stefan_Dusan
07-11-2013, 02:44 PM
Anyway again no and as I have said his greatest discovery was the demonstration of wireless transmission of energy, but yet again not that much different from the wireless signal transmission.

There is no difference, information is energy and energy is information. However, right now no one has practical idea how to (for example) charge our phones wirelessly. Though I heard some inventions on market that claim to do that.

Insuperable
07-11-2013, 04:14 PM
There is no difference, information is energy and energy is information. However, right now no one has practical idea how to (for example) charge our phones wirelessly. Though I heard some inventions on market that claim to do that.

There are already practical ways of course, but are not commercially widespread, but soon. They are based on short range wireless transfer not long range and are based on different idea and it is non radiative transfer.

Aladdin
07-11-2013, 04:15 PM
He was a Croat.

Stefan_Dusan
07-11-2013, 04:16 PM
He was a Croat.

In Croatian fantasies but not in real life.