Are you happy with your haplogroups?

[Rethel]

Hell yeah! I like it, being V13 is being against all odds. hahah!

:thumb001:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/images/BalkanNeolithic.png

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

I am happy with it but was a little bit surprised to have a Celtic haplogroup that is most common in the British Isles (especially the North-West, i.e. Ireland and Scotland).

[Kriptc06]

:thumb001:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/images/BalkanNeolithic.png

its against all odds because many brazilians get R1b, even my mulatto friend got it, he was disappointed, told me LOL, "I envy your E" i lol'ed

My V13 is Spanish.

[Rethel]

its against all odd because many brazilians get R1b, even my mulatto friend got it, he was disappointed, told me LOL, "I envy your E" i lol'ed

My V13 is Spanish.

So make with him an exchange :laugh:

R1b in Brazyl is only ~50+ %.

So every second only can have it.

[Ülev]

yeah, D y-dna ueber alles

[Kriptc06]

So make with him an exchange :laugh:

R1b in Brazyl is only ~50+ %.

So every second only can have it.

hahhahhah, you know that isn't possible lol, I wouldnt trade it either way

[Kriptc06]

yeah, D y-dna ueber alles

Hello cousin! long time no see eh, 50K years! have you seen our dad DE* lately? Id like to ask him few questions about our family tree. LOL

http://taylorfamilygenes.info/images/hapgrps/haplotree1.jpg

[Ülev]

Hello cousin! long time no see eh, 50K years! have you seen our dad DE* lately? Id like to ask him few questions about our family tree. LOL

http://taylorfamilygenes.info/images/hapgrps/haplotree1.jpg

so it means that we should not be frightened out of R1ethelians wits by their harum-scarum ways, R1 are little, growing kids, lol

[Melki]

I'm still trying to figure out what a haplogroup is. Is it edible?

[Peterski]

I'm still trying to figure out what a haplogroup is.

Y-DNA haplogroup is inherited from your direct paternal line, without recombination:

http://i.imgur.com/YhTG8YL.png

MtDNA haplogroup is inherited from your direct maternal line without recombination:

http://i.imgur.com/JWNzGbw.png

Autosomal DNA is inherited from all of your ancestors combined, and it recombines:

http://i.imgur.com/8cfpgP4.png

[Voskos]

yes, i am happy with it.

[Melki]

Y-DNA haplogroup is inherited from your direct paternal line, without recombination:

http://i.imgur.com/YhTG8YL.png

MtDNA haplogroup is inherited from your direct maternal line without recombination:

http://i.imgur.com/JWNzGbw.png

Autosomal DNA is inherited from all of your ancestors combined, and it recombines:

http://i.imgur.com/8cfpgP4.png

Interesting. So, I guess I'd need to do a DNA-test, I can't just get scanned at 7-Eleven...

[Rethel]

yes, i am happy with it.

What do you have?

[Rethel]

I'm still trying to figure out what a haplogroup is. Is it edible?

A haplotype is a group of genes in an organism that are inherited together from a single parent,[1][2] and a haplogroup (haploid from the Greek: ἁπλούς, haploûs, "onefold, simple" and English: group) is a group of similar haplotypes that share a common ancestor with a single-nucleotide polymorphism mutation.[3][4] More specifically, a haplogroup is a combination of alleles at different chromosomes regions that are closely linked and that tend to be inherited together. As a haplogroup consists of similar haplotypes, it is usually possible to predict a haplogroup from haplotypes. Haplogroups pertain to a single line of descent, usually dating back thousands of years.[5] As such, membership of a haplogroup, by any individual, relies on a relatively small proportion of the genetic material possessed by that individual.

Each haplogroup originates from, and remains part of, a preceding single haplogroup (or paragroup). As such, any related group of haplogroups may be precisely modelled as a nested hierarchy, in which each set (haplogroup) is also a subset of a single broader set (as opposed, that is, to biparental models, such as human family trees).

[Iloko]

My Y-dna in particular seemed interesting: C-M130. Other than that I'm more interested in the autosomal stuff anyway.

[Peterski]

I will be 100% happy if my mom's side turns out to be R1a:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?213133-Should-I-test-Y-DNA-of-my-maternal-side&p=4466878&viewfull=1#post4466878

Currently, I have an Off-R1a-Dilemma due to being R1b. :(

[Jana]

My father was thrilled with results! Even before he knew his haplo, he declared wish for that particuar one (ha read in newspapers basic things about them).
Even though he tells me it's waste of money and culture matters not gentics he is bit proud because his haplogroups is most typical among Croats, especially from those with Bosnian heritage.
I am very happy with my mtDNA, too. It's most common in Germanic and Celtic countries of nortwestern Europe and I guess it confirmed my German heritage trough my grandma. It was also part of IE expansion and that's very cool!


I will be 100% happy if my mom's side turns out to be R1a:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?213133-Should-I-test-Y-DNA-of-my-maternal-side&p=4466878&viewfull=1#post4466878
Currently, I have an Off-R1a-Dilemma due to being R1b. :(
You should be proud to be special in sea of R1a :)
Do you feel less Polish because of your haplogroup ? I can't understand why your're sad, it's IE Celtic haplo and was probably present in Poland for long, long time .

[Lek]

Yeah, fo sho.

[Enflamme]

I don't care a little bit.

[Charles Bronson]

No, I want a Turkic hg but I take a ......

[Rethel]

No, I want a Turkic hg but I take a ......

But if you wanted turkic, then better O than some local nonturkic
hg. At least you have hg of neighbouring/related closest people.
The same region, the same race, similar customs and tounge.

[Peterski]

Here is where my haplogroups have been found in ancient DNA so far:

R1b-DF27:

~2431-2150 BC, Bell Beaker, Quedlinburg

W6a:

~3500-2700 BC, Yamnaya, Lopatino II
~3260-2630 BC, Corded Ware, Plinkaigalis
~2566-2477 BC, Corded Ware, Esperstedt

[Rethel]

Here is where my haplogroups have been found in ancient DNA so far:

R1b-DF27:

~2431-2150 BC, Bell Beaker, Quedlinburg

I will remiand you about that, when you again
czepniesz się mine or Mahnölchen's Szwabstwa. :p

Some M458 were digged out?

[Charles Bronson]

But if you wanted turkic, then better O than some local nonturkic
hg. At least you have hg of neighbouring/related closest people.
The same region, the same race, similar customs and tounge.


O-M176 its not my true HG it is a European one.

[Rethel]

1) O-M176 its not my true HG
2) it is a European one.

1. :confused:
2. :confused:

[Loki]

1. :confused:
2. :confused:

He means he has a haplogroup other than O. He has a European haplogroup.

[Porn Master]

R1 sucks

[Charles Bronson]

1. :confused:
2. :confused:



It is a Nordic one. This would be explain my familys features and phenotyps.

[Rethel]

It is a Nordic one. This would be explain my familys features and phenotyps.

1. So why are you pretending to be an O.
2. Which one do you have? Word Nordic is often misused.

[Myanthropologies]

I don't care about them.

[Charles Bronson]

1. So why are you pretending to be an O.
2. Which one do you have? Word Nordic is often misused.


Inferiority complexes.

Varangian Guard anecstor.

[Loki]

It is a Nordic one. This would be explain my familys features and phenotyps.

I just want to mention that one's haplogroup has virtually no influence on phenotype at all...

[Rethel]

I just want to mention that one's haplogroup has virtually no influence on phenotype at all...

Has.
Let's assume, that someone is white.
Got to know, that he is a descendent from Chinese.
So, he marry Chinese woman.
Children looks more humanly than he.
So, finally, look was infuenced by hg. :)


Inferiority complexes.

Varangian Guard anecstor.

Ok, I get you are trolling. But not too brilantly.

[Charles Bronson]

Has.
Let's assume, that someone is white.
Got to know, that he is a descendent from Chinese.
So, he marry Chinese woman.
Children looks more humanly than he.
So, finally, look was infuenced by hg. :)



Ok, I get you are trolling. But not too brilantly.



What are you talking about, I dont kidding you.

[Ziveth]

I know it's one of those things you cannot change. But what was your first reaction when you found out your haplogroup/s? Were you pleased or disappointed?

I got the result few time ago, and i'm happy with my R1 haplogroup :)
The first reaction was "hey, i'm an Indoeuropean" :D i was surprised.

[Damião de Góis]

I got the result few time ago, and i'm happy with my R1 haplogroup :)
The first reaction was "hey, i'm an Indoeuropean" :D i was surprised.

You must be the first female ever with an Y-DNA and no mtDNA.

[Dick]

You must be the first female ever with an Y-DNA and no mtDNA.

http://www.abload.de/img/11514-animated_gifchat8etf.gif

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Hahaha busted :P

[Ziveth]

You must be the first female ever with an Y-DNA and no mtDNA.
Every person has a mtDNA haplogroup and a Y-DNA haplogroup.
Y-DNA from the father, mtDNA from the mother.

[Ziveth]

Hahaha busted :P

Ahaha i never said i have no mtDNA haplogroup :D

[Rethel]

You must be the first female ever with an Y-DNA and no mtDNA.

No. Craisy Daisy, Feichy, some girl from Urugway and others were...

[Longbowman]

Every person has a mtDNA haplogroup and a Y-DNA haplogroup.
Y-DNA from the father, mtDNA from the mother.

Women do not have YDNA, usually.

[Ziveth]

Women do not have YDNA, usually.
There are also other women with YDna on this forum, for example Raine and CrazyDaisy.

[Longbowman]

There are also other women with YDna on this forum, for example Raine and CrazyDaisy.

They are [probably] posting their father's/brother's YDNA, rather than their own.

[SardiniaAtlantis]

Women do not have YDNA, usually.

"Quella" lì è molto strana, figurati dice pure di vivere in Italia ma non sa nemmeno parlare l'italiano, ed adesso potrebbe essere anche maschio! :confused:

[Longbowman]

"Quella" lì è molto strana, figurati dice pure di vivere in Italia ma non sa nemmeno parlare l'italiano, ed adesso potrebbe essere anche maschio! :confused:

e probabilemente siciliana, sai come va laggiu.

[SardiniaAtlantis]

e probabilemente siciliana, sai come va laggiu.

Lol non direi, i siciliani mi sono simpatici.

[Longbowman]

Lol non direi, i siciliani mi sono simpatici.

scherzavo ovviamente. e con certezza assoluta dal sudtirol. cento per cento italian per cittadinanza ma non le insegnarono la lingua imperalista mai nel suo vilaggio al base del Pitz Pilu.

[Loki]

There are also other women with YDna on this forum, for example Raine and CrazyDaisy.

As Longbowman said, it's not their own, but a male family member's.

So... I'm curious about your case. Care to explain, please? :confused:

I think the only people in the world who could have problems understanding this (that only men have Y-DNA), would be Swedes.

[Jana]

There are also other women with YDna on this forum, for example Raine and CrazyDaisy.
Those are theirs' fathers.

If you had YDNA you'd be biologically male. Strange that a medical student doesn't know that......

[Mazik]

R1a is the mightiest Y-dna and V is kinda rare.

So I'm quite happy with them :)

What I wrote 4 years ago is still true. :wavey001:

[Ülev]

What I wrote 4 years ago is still true. :wavey001:

R1ethel approved!

[Harkonnen]

R1ethel approved!

That guy is a homosexual and a imbecile, so pretty much your standard R1a1.

[Rethel]

As Longbowman said, it's not their own, but a male family member's.

The very biologic essense maybe is not theirs, but the description
of that essence and practical meaning of it is theirs as well... and
they can even change it! - if they want - but men can't.
Strange, that even women understand it, but men don't... :coffee:

[Mikula]

My YDNA is frequent in my country, my mtDNA is very rare, here.
I am happy with both!

[Ziveth]

http://www.abload.de/img/11514-animated_gifchat8etf.gif

that's you while are you trying to shit? :D

[Ziveth]

"Quella" lì è molto strana, figurati dice pure di vivere in Italia ma non sa nemmeno parlare l'italiano, ed adesso potrebbe essere anche maschio! :confused:

Certo che parlo italiano. Ovviamente qua dove parlano tutti inglese, per rispetto parlo inglese anch'io.
Non hai notato i miei post nella sezione "Apricity regional" > Italia? Bè, sono in italiano :)
Semmai se tu che non parli italiano, si vede dalla tua citazione. Ti pare italiano quello? Ahahahaha, ma per favore. Sono più italiana di te...dopotutto, dire che la Sardegna fa parte dell'Italia, è un po' come dire che il Tibet fa parte della Cina.

E non ho mai detto di essere un maschio. Ho solo detto che quello è il mio aplogruppo paterno, punto.
Non ho mai detto di non avere l'aplogruppo materno...

[Ziveth]

e probabilemente siciliana, sai come va laggiu.

Ecco uno che non parla italiano. Laggiù senza accento, ma fai ridere. E quel "probabilemente"...ahahhahaha!! :picard1:
Comunque no, non sono affatto siciliana, sono di origini bavaresi ma vivo in Italia.

[Ziveth]

scherzavo ovviamente. e con certezza assoluta dal sudtirol. cento per cento italian per cittadinanza ma non le insegnarono la lingua imperalista mai nel suo vilaggio al base del Pitz Pilu.

Sì ho la cittadinanza italiana, ma sono di origini tedesche. E allora? Parlo italiano meglio di te. Dopo il punto non metti nemmeno le maiuscole. Torna in prima elementare, và.
E i sudtirolesi sono meglio dei siciliani/sardi terroni.

[Ziveth]

That guy is a homosexual and a imbecile, so pretty much your standard R1a1.
I said it is my paternal haplogroup. Jesus Christ. :picard2:
My mtDna is U5. Just because i didn't post it doesn't mean nothing. And the imbecile is you.

[Jana]

I said it is my paternal haplogroup. Jesus Christ. :picard2:
My mtDna is U5. Just because i didn't post it doesn't mean nothing. And the imbecile is you.

Very beliveable. R1a and U5 Italian ?
Welcome to the Slavic wannabe club.

[Ziveth]

e probabilemente siciliana, sai come va laggiu.
Ah, ho visto adesso nel tuo profilo che sei ebreo. E' vero? Sicuramente sei un sionista che odia i tedeschi e gli europei, ma vive in Europa e non in Israele. :picard1: Che noia.

[Ziveth]

Lol non direi, i siciliani mi sono simpatici.
Certo, terroni come i sardi, mi pare ovvio :D

[Dick]

that's you while are you trying to shit? :D

http://68.media.tumblr.com/7dee5f1e71605d7ca45ca93ebefc6cdc/tumblr_ndgy0c0BVf1r39gsao1_500.gif

[Longbowman]

Ecco uno che non parla italiano. Laggiù senza accento, ma fai ridere. E quel "probabilemente"...ahahhahaha!! :picard1:
Comunque no, non sono affatto siciliana, sono di origini bavaresi ma vivo in Italia.

laggiu senza accento ti fa ridere, ma 'e' senza accento ti sa normale?

[Ziveth]

Very beliveable. R1a and U5 Italian ?
Welcome to the Slavic wannabe club.
I'm ethnically Bavarian (German), but i have Italian citizienship.

[Jana]

I'm ethnically Bavarian (German), but i have Italian citizienship.
And I live in the holy land.

[Ziveth]

Ok, i end the conversation here. You all annoyed me too much. End of discussion about my haplogroups.
Farewell. :)

[Ziveth]

And I live in the holy land.

There are even Africans with Italian citizienship with all this mass immigration...
If you are born in Italy no matter what ethnicy are you, you will get the citizienship.
If you live in Italy for more than 10 years, or marry an Italian, you get the citizienship.

[Longbowman]

Sì ho la cittadinanza italiana, ma sono di origini tedesche. E allora? Parlo italiano meglio di te.

parli italiano meglio che io che non sono nemmeno un cittadino dello stivalo? non ti credo, non e possibile


Dopo il punto non metti nemmeno le maiuscole. Torna in prima elementare, và.

un questione di grammatica piu che un questione di lingua


E i sudtirolesi sono meglio dei siciliani/sardi terroni.

niente senso dell'umorismo, niente logica ed anche razzista? fortunato il tuo fidanzato.

[Longbowman]

Ah, ho visto adesso nel tuo profilo che sei ebreo. E' vero? Sicuramente sei un sionista che odia i tedeschi e gli europei, ma vive in Europa e non in Israele. :picard1: Che noia.

sembri agitata. non ho odio verso i tedeschi, solo pieta per un popolo rotto.

[Ziveth]

laggiu senza accento ti fa ridere, ma 'e' senza accento ti sa normale?

"E" nella frase che ho scritto io è congiunzione, quindi non richiede l'accento. Solo quando è verbo richiede l'accento. Studia un po' di grammatica, su.

[Longbowman]

"E" nella frase che ho scritto io è congiunzione, quindi non richiede l'accento. Solo quando è verbo richiede l'accento. Studia un po' di grammatica, su.

referivo al 'e' senza accento nella mia frase, cretina.


e probabilemente siciliana, sai come va laggiu.

[Ziveth]

sembri agitata. non ho odio verso i tedeschi, solo pieta per un popolo rotto.

Sempre senza accenti e maiuscole, eh.
So benissimo chi è che ha riempito la Germania di immigrati...:rolleyes:
L'immigrazione di massa di persone del terzo mondo è il motivo per cui oggi la Germania è oggi "un popolo rotto".

[Jana]

There are even Africans with Italian citizienship with all this mass immigration...
If you are born in Italy no matter what ethnicy are you, you will get the citizienship.
If you live in Italy for more than 10 years, or marry an Italian, you get the citizienship.

Sprechen Sie Deutch, meine liebling ?

[Ziveth]

referivo al 'e' senza accento nella mia frase, cretina.

Pensavo fosse una congiunzione. SardiniAtlantis (o come si chiama) ha detto "è strana", e pensavo che tu avessi aggiunto "e probabilmente siciliana".
Se era inteso come verbo, fa ridere pure quello, hai ragione.

[Ziveth]

Sprechen Sie Deutch, meine liebling ?

I am born in Italy, so i know very few German language. I never lived in Germany except for visit my relatives.

[Longbowman]

Sempre senza accenti e maiuscole, eh.

una scelta aestetica, non capiresti


So benissimo chi è che ha riempito la Germania di immigrati...:rolleyes:

sono stato io :)


L'immigrazione di massa di persone del terzo mondo è il motivo per cui oggi la Germania è oggi "un popolo rotto".

chissenefrega la ragione, rotti sono e rotti saranno fino alla loro estinsione e mi suscita un senso di pieta

cmq la decisione tedesca di fermare il parto di bambini tedeschi e la prima causa della loro rottura

[Ziveth]

cretina.
Sembra che adesso sia tu quello agitato.

[Longbowman]

I am born in Italy, so i know very few German language. I never lived in Germany except for visit my relatives.

ma dai non puoi insultarmi per non aver messo gli accenti quando parli inglese cosi male

[Dick]

Okay Lbm, we get the point. You speak perfect Italian.

[Ziveth]

sono stato io :)

Ahahahah non intendevo che sei stato tu, ma sono stati i sionisti. Suvvia, lo sanno tutti.
Gli ebrei sono dietro all'Unione Europea come sono dietro agli USA e a Hollywood. C'è scritto dappertutto persino in internet...anche se non ci vuole un genio a capirlo.

[Ziveth]

ma dai non puoi insultarmi per non aver messo gli accenti quando parli inglese cosi male

Sei tu che hai iniziato con gli insulti. Ti ho solo risposto.

[Ziveth]

This is getting boring, really. :bored:

[Longbowman]

Ahahahah non intendevo che sei stato tu, ma sono stati i sionisti. Suvvia, lo sanno tutti.
Gli ebrei sono dietro all'Unione Europea come sono dietro agli USA e a Hollywood. C'è scritto dappertutto persino in internet...anche se non ci vuole un genio a capirlo.

scritte le queste rivelazioni persino in internet!? sicuramente scherzi, non puo essere vero. solo il contenuto piu raffinato e corretto e permesso sul internet

[Ziveth]

Okay Lbm, we get the point. You speak perfect Italian.

Yes Dickhead. Now stop boring me with your stupidity and insults, thanks.

[Longbowman]

Sei tu che hai iniziato con gli insulti. Ti ho solo risposto.

non dico che non sei permessa ad insultarmi, ti ho chiamato il bue che da il cornuto al asino.

[Ziveth]

scritte le queste rivelazioni persino in internet!? sicuramente scherzi, non puo essere vero. solo il contenuto piu raffinato e corretto e permesso sul internet

Anche se non ci fosse scritto in internet, lo sanno quasi tutti lo stesso ormai. The goyim know! :D

[Longbowman]

Anche se non ci fosse scritto in internet, lo sanno quasi tutti lo stesso ormai. The goyim know! :D

i goyim non sanno niente, se sapessero sicuramente avrebbero fatto qualcosa ormai.

[Ziveth]

It's late, i go offline. You can continue alone with your insults.
Farewell everyone. :)

[Loki]

The very biologic essense maybe is not theirs, but the description
of that essence and practical meaning of it is theirs as well... and
they can even change it! - if they want - but men can't.
Strange, that even women understand it, but men don't... :coffee:

What do you mean "they can change it"? :confused:

[Rethel]

What do you mean "they can change it"? :confused:

Can merry someone with different hg automatically subscribing to it.

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

Lol female med student with Y dna and its normal... this is too rich

[SardiniaAtlantis]

Ahahahah non intendevo che sei stato tu, ma sono stati i sionisti. Suvvia, lo sanno tutti.
Gli ebrei sono dietro all'Unione Europea come sono dietro agli USA e a Hollywood. C'è scritto dappertutto persino in internet...anche se non ci vuole un genio a capirlo.

Sai oggi faceva un caldo da morire ma l'aria condizionata dell'auto non mi funzionava...adesso ho capito cos'è successo, senza dubbio c'entrano i sionisti maledetti!!! Quelli che riempiono le nazioni di immigrati come l'Italia piena di turchi, africani, tedeschi...etc..

[oszkar07]

Im happy enough about my Y Haplogroup although its not the most represented or the most typical of the region my paternal line is from but it is there and its probably of early Germanic origins... my subclade is here ... S2364 is the largest and most diversified I2a2 subclade. It has the widest distribution of any subclade. It is found in all Germanic countries, including Britain, but also Ireland, the Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland, Latvia, Russia, Ukraine, Bulgaria, Italy, France, Spain and Portugal. This suggests that it could have been propagated by the Franks, Anglo-Saxons, Goths and Vikings, among others. S2364 originated nearly 4,000 years ago, but its numerous subclades developed between 1,000 and 3,000 years ago, which matches the time frame of the Germanic ethnogenesis and Germanic migrations..

My Mtdna is H1M, .

Altogether I would consider my autosomal data more interesting than my Haplogroups but they are still quite interesting.

[Rethel]

early Germanic origins...

:bored:

[oszkar07]

:bored:

Poles have it too, I have Polish Ydna Matches, anyways I2 is old school European:cool:

[Charles Bronson]

No, but I know a lot Europeans without non Europeans HP are envy of me because my HP is pure Germanic I1a1 L22 P109(Viking HG).

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

No, but I know a lot Europeans without non Europeans HP are envy of me because my HP is pure Germanic I1a1 L22 P109(Viking HG).

O-M176 peaking in Japan\China\Mongolia is a pure Germanic haplogroup?

[Karol Klačansky]

R1a-m458, of course I'm happy with it, my ancestor was some Slavic dude.

Sent from my KIW-L21 using Tapatalk

[Rethel]

Poles have it too, I have Polish Ydna Matches, anyways I2 is old school European:cool:

Yes, some inhabitants of Poland have it.
But it does not mean, that these people
are Germans or something. They are OE.

[Rethel]

No, but I know a lot Europeans without non Europeans HP are envy of me because my HP is pure Germanic I1a1 L22 P109(Viking HG).


O-M176

:picard2:

I will not reapeat 100th time, that I1 is not Germanic, and
definitly not pure, if even has formthing german in itself. :bored:

[Voskos]

now what is the most common haplogroup in Eastern europe? I , R1b or R1a?

[Rethel]

now what is the most common haplogroup in Eastern europe? I , R1b or R1a?

R1.

[Voskos]

R1.

R1a or R1b higher? if you also count bashkirs, mordvins and R1b turkic tribes i mean.

[Rethel]

We are not happy about our hg

When we will hear some elaborations why?

[Rethel]

R1a or R1b higher? if you also count bashkirs, mordvins and R1b turkic tribes i mean.

1a is more than 1b.

[Charles Bronson]

:picard2:

I will not reapeat 100th time, that I1 is not Germanic, and
definitly not pure, if even has formthing german in itself. :bored:




What then?

[Rethel]

What then?

Archeologists called them Oldeuropeans, Germans called them Thraels, linguists Vasconids, aso

[Myanthropologies]

I'm nit unhappy with mine, but I'm disappointed in being an outlier and not sharing the haplogroup of the people who brought ethnicity their culture and language. However, it doesn't matter, because my haplogroup is still unique, and it originates in the Caucausus, which is where most of my dna comes from anyways. I still have significant ancestry from the people who gave my ethnicity their culture and language. Haplogroups don't mean everything.

[kingjohn]

I'm nit unhappy with mine, but I'm disappointed in being an outlier and not sharing the haplogroup of the people who brought ethnicity their culture and language. However, it doesn't matter, because my haplogroup is still unique, and it originates in the Caucausus, which is where most of my dna comes from anyways. I still have significant ancestry from the people who gave my ethnicity their culture and language. Haplogroups don't mean everything.


you should be happy haplogroup G is cool
you gave farming to Europe ......

[Myanthropologies]

you should be happy haplogroup G is cool
you gave farming to Europe ......

Well I'm not necessairly unhappy, I accept it for what it is, but I am learning to embrace it.

[Rethel]

disappointed in being an outlier and not sharing the haplogroup of the people who brought ethnicity their culture and language.

Oportunist!


Haplogroups don't mean everything.

ORD!

[Перун]

Pretty happy with my Y DNA. Abot my mtDNA i still trying to discover where it was originated exactly as the answers are pretty diverse.

[Gangrel]

Damn right I am

[greasycaveman]

i dont know i really dont like having a common western celtic haplo group
its not very suprising or exciting..

[MercifulServant]

I dont mind it but I kinda wanted to be R1a :)

[MercifulServant]

i dont know i really dont like having a common western celtic haplo group
its not very suprising or exciting..

your a typical good ol boy whats wrong with that


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTvdIzBOHmk

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

Yes and no. Mine is a rare subclade so if anyone ever matches with me I am certain about it being really related. No because its way 2 rare so i havnt really learned much from it.

[Art23]

I don't know. It is kinda expected and boring, a typical R1a from Eastern Europe. But matches are quite interesting: from Pakistan to Scotland.

[Jana]

I'm really happy with my mtdna, it was found in Slavic-Hungarian settlement in medieval north Croatia ! :)

[Rethel]

I'm really happy with my mtdna, it was found in Slavic-Hungarian settlement in medieval north Croatia ! :)

You can;t be happy or not about mt, becasue it provides none real
practical information. Whatever mt one has, it is exactly the same.
It is like having feelings about the gene for the liver or a gene for
the veins of the left leg...

With Y - it is also sensless to be happy or not, becasue somebody
has just what he is. It is like asking: are you happy who you are,
or: are you happy of the family/nation you belong to. Senseless.

[Thracian]

Yes.

[Bobby Martnen]

I dont mind it but I kinda wanted to be R1a :)

You wish you were a R1ethelite?

[Norb]

You wish you were a R1ethelite?

I am happy with mine :D

[Bobby Martnen]

I am happy with mine :D

NOR1B

[Imperator Biff]

Ultra pleased with both of mine.
I was thoroughly surprised by my relatively rare maternal haplogroup which I expected to be H.

[Ylla]

I preferred a farmer mtdna like J or T, but its not a big deal ;)

[Coolguy1]

Very pleased with mine

[Kelmendasi]

Very pleased with mine
Did you get your BigY results?

[Jana]

I'm really happy with my mtdna, it was found in Slavic-Hungarian settlement in medieval north Croatia ! :)

my mtdna comes from site no.2 (in blue) on this map. Location is north Slavonia
https://media.nature.com/lw926/nature-assets/srep/2016/160916/srep33446/images_hires/srep33446-f1.jpg

The number of typed mtDNA from the 10th–12th century contact zone metapopulation was enlarged by four 10th century samples from present-day north Croatia.
One belonged to a characteristic European H10e haplotype;

https://www.nature.com/articles/srep33446

[Freeroostah]

E1b: The haplogroup I really wanted to be over the last 5 years of haplogroup research and the haplogroup I am :thumb001:

BTW my mtDNA is J1c which can be found everywhere on low frequencies. I know nothing about it lol

[Astarte]

Not disappointed but rather annoyed because there's no information on my subclade.

T1a2: Found in Egypt, Israel (presumably in Palestinians) and Iraq.

T1 is not a common haplogroup among Cypriots.

[The Illyrian Warrior]

It's not a big of achievement but surely I'm pleased that I haven't got a slavonigga hg but got a native Balkanite hg instE1ad.

[Coolguy1]

Did you get your BigY results?

Yes, but FTDNA is withholding the BAM file, so I cant upload it to yfull yet. So far, the admins of the m319 page concluded that I form my own subclade that will be defined once its uploaded to yfull.

[Kelmendasi]

Yes, but FTDNA is withholding the BAM file, so I cant upload it to yfull yet. So far, the admins of the m319 page concluded that I form my own subclade that will be defined once its uploaded to yfull.
Nice, looks like your haplo evolved on it's own in isolation

[Kelmendasi]

E1b: The haplogroup I really wanted to be over the last 5 years of haplogroup research and the haplogroup I am :thumb001:

BTW my mtDNA is J1c which can be found everywhere on low frequencies. I know nothing about it lol
I'm proud that the Ydna of my mothers side are E-V13 :D

[Coolguy1]

Nice, looks like your haplo evolved on it's own in isolation

Yeah, and actually an uncle of mine on my father's side tested. He does not have the same last name as me. He also tested positive for m319, and comes from the same village so it seems that Lakonia and western Crete are hotspots for this lineage, representing the pre-Dorian population. But what is ironic is that areas are considered to be the most Dorian places in modern Greece (Mani, Sfakia)

[Freeroostah]

I'm proud that the Ydna of my mothers side are E-V13 :D

Yeah bro E1b is such an interesting haplogroup even if we still dont know much about its migrations..!

[Atvend]

Who isn't? Seems like everyone's psychology immediately readjusts around glorifying whatever haplogroup they get. Turned haplo discourse into just another vapid accessory for the modern mutt and his need for identity.

[El_Jibaro]

Yeah, of course.

There is a high frequency of L21 among NW Iberians and U6b1 is characteristic of Canarians. Those are the largest parts of me, ancestrally speaking, so my haplogroups are perfectly representative in all senses ;).

[J. Ketch]

I didn't know about haplogroups when I got my test, beyond R1b being most common in Western Europe. So when I got it I didn't have much of an opinion. In retrospect though it was never in doubt that I'd be R1b (L21/M222). Pleased, not proud. As for the mtDNA, it meant nothing originally but was very pleased when I learned of its' antiquity in Britain (Neolithic).

[Leto]

Yes, I'm totally fine with my lineage (I learned the subclade last month), very Indo-European :cool:

[Jana]

I'm very pleased with my paternal Y-DNA. Dad belongs to most typical Croatian haplogroup (I2>PH908) and his further subclade A5913 is very interesting, it's mostly shared with East Slavs and not West Slavs thus indicates eastern European rather than central Euro migration origin.

[Nurzat]

well, both friends who tested with me ten years ago got R1a1a something, while I got the haplogroup of the Rothschilds xD J2-L210

[Barbarroja]

I was at first puzzled with my paternal haplogroup (originally from SW Spain), since it's not common in Spain (more in Balkans and Italy; it looks it originally came from Armenia, crossed the Caucasus, migrated to Europe with the Indo-Europeans and once in the Balkans it exploded and became quite prolific). Years later a man who runs a project on the haplogroup wrote to me because he wanted to test me, since he thought I could belong to a lineage that came to Iberia during the Roman times. It turned out to be true: my clade has been found in central Italy since the Iron Age (it's in both ancient Etruscan and Roman remains and in men living there nowadays), and it came to Western Iberia where it became a prolific lineage (ie. it probably reached social prominence for some time). Interestingly, the closest clade to us Iberians is not in Italy, but in England. If anybody wants to know about the project, you can check https://phylogeographer.com/.


On the other side, my maternal haplogroup (originally from Central Spain) has been the most common in my country and in Europe since it arrived during the Neolithic, and it looks that I belong to a clade that is 100% Iberian. As a curiosity, my Finnish wife also belongs to my haplogroup, despite being born on the opposite corner of Europe.

[Arūnas]

Yeah, of course.

There is a high frequency of L21 among NW Iberians and U6b1 is characteristic of Canarians. Those are the largest parts of me, ancestrally speaking, so my haplogroups are perfectly representative in all senses ;).

very suspicious haplo, that one is more Galician ---> https://indo-european.eu/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/haplogroup-r1b-z195-basal.png
from Northern Porto-Galia, through Galicia and Asturias, common in another Galia - France

[Rædwald]

Yes, Indigenous European. Not certain about my X as it is more infrequent, but it's not as important.

[rothaer]

I know it's one of those things you cannot change. But what was your first reaction when you found out your haplogroup/s? Were you pleased or disappointed?

My Y DNA haplogroup (R1b --> S1194 --> BY195505 (today final subclade at YFull after a WGS)) was a little bit disappointing at a first glance, as I could not connect to anything closer. I feel like on a lonely island and the TMRCA with the closest match is 2300 ybp. S1194, the somewhat thicker branch, is distributed exclusively in NW Europe with a gravity point in the Netherlands and it does predate the existence of Germanics by abt. 1000 years even and can be thought to be an older IE thing that is not connected to a certain later IE language group, at least such a context can not be determined with confidence today. But I can fully indentify with it from it's whole context and I'm fine with that.

My mtDNA is U5b2b3*(at YFull, also full sequenced). This I feel very comfortable with as U5 (amongst others) is derived from the most indigenous Europeans.

Actually Villabruna1 (14,000 ybp), the guide fossil for WGH, happens to have had R1b-L754 (which is upstream of mine and could not be narrowed down more) and U5b2b. So essentially the same combination as me. It can not be excluded that this is an ancestral haplogroup both for my Y DNA and for my mt DNA. This I do feel comfortable with. :)

[El_Jibaro]

very suspicious haplo, that one is more Galician ---> https://indo-european.eu/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/haplogroup-r1b-z195-basal.png
from Northern Porto-Galia, through Galicia and Asturias, common in another Galia - France

I am Irish.

https://i.redd.it/ej4upimhcx751.png

[Defcon2]

No or yes? Perhaps it comes from the black owner of a harem who was a slave and bearer of chains around his neck and freed himself.

My mtdna seems to come from a Mesolithic refuge in Iberia.

[michal3141]

Proud R1a Balto-Slavic.

[Celestia]

I wake up every morning feeling blessed to be H1

[Arūnas]

I use H11 in my car

[Benyzero]

Never thought about it that way, my haplos makes complete sense, I accepted them . : )

[Roy]

Am I happy with the shape of my clavicle?

[Ylla]

My father has a typical albanian haplogroup (E-V13) and that's all I care about, genetically.

[Roy]

My father has a typical albanian haplogroup (E-V13) and that's all I care about, genetically.

I have the same haplogroup btw. I am scecretly a Shqiptar, but shshsh ... about it.

[Ylla]

I have the same haplogroup btw. I am scecretly a Shqiptar, but shshsh ... about it.

Congrats 🥳 consider it an honour.

[lacreme]

From my Greek friend:
Having Smyrniot ancestry he was very surprised when he found out he belonged to the I1 haplogroup which is no more than 3-4% in the Greek population. Even more with his subclade, L22, which won't probably be *the* major line among the total I1 (maybe 2nd or 3d biggest ? ) in the country.
Proud though? Nah, I don't think so... Why should he be proud for having ancestry from a random Goth mercenary or farmer or a roaming Slav who decided to settle and make his home the lower Balkans ?

[Tongio]

Yes I am happy with it , I am J2b- L283 and It surprised me as my paternal ancestor was portuguese ,this haplo is also interesting in many aspectos as its frequency and suposed migration is pretty odd compared to other j2 lineages.we wuz Illyrian and shit.

[HelloGuys]

Yeah; but I just knew my haplogroup yesterday lol so still I cannot believe it xdd so I accept it and all that but it's strange for me xdd

I thought I'd be R1b or Q but instead I have E1b1b (E-M81----> E-PF2546) that as far I know is a Sephardic Jewish Y-DNA

[bvnny]

Yeah, R1b-L151 is a pretty cool y-DNA, we waz dahh celts and shieeeeet

[Figaro]

I guess so..ya get what ya get, either way. I kind of sort of enjoy the fact my mtdna is a rare clade.

[E1b1b]

Yeah, because mechta-afalou dudes were big and jacked. Big pp. They banged all the African big booty women and took them away from A and B Y-DNA carriers and it makes me feel good that my ancestors were clapping big black cheeks even back in the day.

[E1b1b]

Yeah, R1b-L151 is a pretty cool y-DNA, we waz dahh celts and shieeeeet

R1b has direct relationship to Yamnaya. That’s actually cooler than the Celts. They were literally rapist horseman from the steppe just roaming around Europe banging bitches.

[Leto]

Yeah, because mechta-afalou dudes were big and jacked. Big pp. They banged all the African big booty women and took them away from A and B Y-DNA carriers and it makes me feel good that my ancestors were clapping big black cheeks even back in the day.
Now I see who the fuck you are -- fucking D! :D

You need to mix with a Haitian woman, I guess. Or African American. Being black is in vogue anyway.

[Leto]

R1b has direct relationship to Yamnaya. That’s actually cooler than the Celts. They were literally rapist horseman from the steppe just roaming around Europe banging bitches.
Yeah but a more relevant Steppe culture for Europeans would be the Corded Ware. It's from the Forest-Steppe zone.

[E1b1b]

Now I see who the fuck you are -- fucking D! :D

You need to mix with a Haitian woman, I guess. Or African American. Being black is in vogue anyway.

Dude I'm not joking when I say I bang mostly black chicks lmao, some of them literally had hippo booty, ass was so big you gotta think about it for a second what you're going to do with all that. But I don't want to get one pregnant though. Unless I know for sure that european civilization is fucked and I have to pull the ol switchero.

[Leto]

Dude I'm not joking when I say I bang mostly black chicks lmao, some of them literally had hippo booty, ass was so big you gotta think about it for a second what you're going to do with all that. But I don't want to get one pregnant though. Unless I know for sure that european civilization is fucked and I have to pull the ol switchero.
Lol. They're all gonna be single moms anyway. :lol: Yeah, I wouldn't mix with someone of a fully different race either unless it was literally the only option.

[Ayetooey]

Happy with my Y dna. I would prefer something like U5 for my mtdna but oh well.

[Mont]

I love my Semitic J1a haplogroup and my Central asian/Caucasian H2a2a1 haplogroup. I love myself, my family and my ancestors. :love0001:

[Flub]

:thumbs:

[Leto]

My father has a typical albanian haplogroup (E-V13) and that's all I care about, genetically.
What is your sons' HG? I heard your husband is from Russia.

[Hauber]

Where do you find informations about all the haplogroups?

[Gallop]

I remember that it was with Igenea I hardly knew almost nothing about all this, now is not that I know much more but I had ordered a not very complete test and they gave me dnaY E-M35 and dnamt J1c from there it has been a very long, expensive and exciting journey as I expanded the tets and if what I was seeing I liked.

[Aila]

Grandparents:
Y-DNA I1a & N1c
mtDNA H1a & V

[Mopi The Dire Wolf]

pure yamnaya, indo-european warrior elite...i'm happy with that :D

[gixajo]

I have a very original Ydna for an Spaniard.

A little ambiguous its origin, Balto-Slavic-Germanic but it´s cool.:thumb001:

My mtdna it´s common for the region where my maternal side is from, but it´s also ok.

[Onlyi2aIsEuropean]

I am fairly happy being a robust european hunter gatherer that has survived in europe longer than anyone else, you could say i am uber european - i wont say the nazi word though and get banned same day i registered

[Mont]

I am fairly happy being a robust european hunter gatherer that has survived in europe longer than anyone else, you could say i am uber european - i wont say the nazi word though and get banned same day i registered
What is your mtDNA haplogroup?

[Onlyi2aIsEuropean]

What is your mtDNA haplogroup?

No clue, is there a place thats cheap to test?

[Mont]

No clue, is there a place thats cheap to test?
Your raw data is from which company?

[Onlyi2aIsEuropean]

Your raw data is from which company?

Yseq alpha-beta

[Mont]

Yseq alpha-beta
Have you done anything else?

[Onlyi2aIsEuropean]

Have you done anything else?

Nope, what do you recommend and why?

[Mont]

Nope, what do you recommend and why?
You could do, for example, 23andme, getting the autosomal results aswell, and uploading the raw data to JamesLick.

[Onlyi2aIsEuropean]

You could do, for example, 23andme, getting the autosomal results aswell, and uploading the raw data to JamesLick.

I dunno, sounds expensive. Id be more willing to find out my deep y dna with more yseq and maybe mtdna - personally i dont find autosomnal as cool as the dna lines my kids will carry going forward

[arkas]

Yeah, I like that both my haplogroups are native lineages to both their respective regions.

[Onlyi2aIsEuropean]

Yeah, I like that both my haplogroups are native lineages to both their respective regions.

I thought i2a was native to europe, didnt know it had been in australia all that time too. Damn, i2a is tough

[arkas]

I thought i2a was native to europe, didnt know it had been in australia all that time too. Damn, i2a is tough

Haha I mean native to where my ancestors were from.

[Mont]

I dunno, sounds expensive. Id be more willing to find out my deep y dna with more yseq and maybe mtdna - personally i dont find autosomnal as cool as the dna lines my kids will carry going forward
Autosomal also goes forward.

[Hauber]

I am I2a2b (L-38), so I have a subclade of yours?

[Mont]

I am I2a2b (L-38), so I have a subclade of yours?
I don't know about the others, but mine you do not.

[Onlyi2aIsEuropean]

Autosomal also goes forward.

Sure but autosomnal varies and changes all the time whilst y-dna and mtdna remains no matter what

[Hauber]

I don't know about the others, but mine you do not.

I missclick to answer to Albanian Hunter, I know my Alphabet :'(

[chinshen]

Couldn't have asked for better ones.

[Mont]

Sure but autosomnal varies and changes all the time whilst y-dna and mtdna remains no matter what
Nope, they all change over time, the only difference is the way of transmission (YDNA by father to son, mtDNA by mother to son, atDNA by both father and mother).

[Tongio]

Jameslick is shit, it assigns all H mtDNA as H2a2, test with ftdna monopolisers is the only way i'm aware.

[Onlyi2aIsEuropean]

I missclick to answer to Albanian Hunter, I know my Alphabet :'(

No, i fall under i-m423 but dont know further than that yet. The yseq animated migration map says i2 originated 20000BC in bosnia, quickly crossed the sea to north italy then moved north france to form i-m423 in 12100bc

https://phylogeographer.com/mygrations/?hg=I2&clade=I-M423

[Onlyi2aIsEuropean]

Nope, they all change over time, the only difference is the way of transmission (YDNA by father to son, mtDNA by mother to son, atDNA by both father and mother).

Thats what i mean, y dna will remain as long as i have sons and they have sons etc. Same case with daughters (but i not so secretly dont want daughters)

[Mont]

Jameslick is shit, it assigns all H mtDNA as H2a2, test with ftdna monopolisers is the only way i'm aware.
I'm thinking about doing an analysis by myself to be honest. You are not the first one that I have seen that criticized JamesLick.

[Tongio]

I'm thinking about doing an analysis by myself to be honest. You are not the first one that I have seen that criticized JamesLick.

My relatives tested with ftdna and we know our mtdna( H3 branch) jameslick told me I was H2a2.

[Aldaris]

I have no idea which it is. Probably R1b. Doesn't matter to me, I don't need a genetic test to know who I am.

[Hauber]

No, i fall under i-m423 but dont know further than that yet. The yseq animated migration map says i2 originated 20000BC in bosnia, quickly crossed the sea to north italy then moved north france to form i-m423 in 12100bc

https://phylogeographer.com/mygrations/?hg=I2&clade=I-M423

Thanks. It is very old

[Vrazijadivizija]

Everyone that belongs to I1,I2 haplogroup
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9AWcK_X0AIM-rz.jpg:large

[Mont]

My relatives tested with ftdna and we know our mtdna( H3 branch) jameslick told me I was H2a2.
I see... did the YDNA haplogroup predictor of Morley work as expected by the way?

[Tongio]

I see... did the YDNA haplogroup predictor of Morley work as expected by the way?

Morley and yseq are good from what i saw, we tested both with genera, but they did not assing us the same branch of " J " for example that means It is not a standart result.Maybe genera just doesn't code many mtdna SNPs for men and they are the ones to blame, i thought of testing my mother with genera, as woman only have the mtdna they might read more SNPs.

[Mont]

Morley and yseq are good from what i saw, we tested both with genera, but they did not assing us the same branch of " J " for example that means It is not a standart result.Maybe genera just doesn't code many mtdna SNPs for men and they are the ones to blame, i thought of testing my mother with genera, as woman only have the mtdna they might read more SNPs.
Both YSEQ and Morley gave me the same haplogroup, J1-Z2215.

[Longbowman]

Thats what i mean, y dna will remain as long as i have sons and they have sons etc. Same case with daughters (but i not so secretly dont want daughters)

Don't worry, you won't.

[Tongio]

Both YSEQ and Morley gave me the same haplogroup, J1-Z2215.
That is strange , you got few SNPs read, maybe you were negative for all the main branches genera generaly reads, like P58 ,the semitic branch.Some J1 branches in Europe might have been brough from the caucasus by the Yamnaya as two J1 infividuals have been found in the steppes, one recently in Khvalinsky, https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/42416-The-Eneolithic-cemetery-at-Khvalynsk-on-the-Volga-River, typical local autossomal.Neolithic farmers also had some J1, so you never know till tou get to know your specific branch.

[Tongio]

Double

[Africanwidow]

I2 robust European Hunter-Gatherer master race.

[Figaro]

I2 robust European Hunter-Gatherer master race.

An R1a1 is amused.

[Mont]

That is strange , you got few SNPs read, maybe you were negative for all the main branches genera generaly reads, like P58 ,the semitic branch.Some J1 branches in Europe might have been brough from the caucasus by the Yamnaya as two J1 infividuals have been found in the steppes, one recently in Khvalinsky, https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/42416-The-Eneolithic-cemetery-at-Khvalynsk-on-the-Volga-River, typical local autossomal.Neolithic farmers also had some J1, so you never know till tou get to know your specific branch.
Mine is semitic, plus the neolithic farmers were actually J2, not J1.

[Tongio]

Mine is semitic, plus the neolithic farmers were actually J2, not J1.

They had both, there is a carioca of portuguese minhoto paternal origin on anthopogenica with y DNA j1-L620 , not a semitic, nor farmer clade at , it is in a downstream branch of the khvalinky steppe herder i Just told you, that is possibly spread by indo europeans(maybe the alans?).My point is just J1 is not semitic exclusive, once its origins were in the caucasus this is perfectly understandable.

[kingmob]

Yes, I am happy.

So far downstream of R-M12149*, together with Chechens, Georgians, Armenians, Turks, Lazes and Vlachs (Romania and Albania).

Upstream of us at R-M1249* (TMRCA: 5400 ybp) two Tocharians and the Iran_IA_Hajji-Firruz-Teppe Persian.

[Scandal]

Haplogroups are meaningless when it comes to identity. I don't see how one can be happy or unhappy about them.
A German with haplogroup I won't identify with I Serbs instead of R Germans.

[Rædwald]

I wish I knew more about my maternal, but it's very rare.

[Petalpusher]

Dodging E, J or N was good even if it doesnt mean much or anything, still feels better. Apart from that, i don't really care.

Something most people probably don't realize, is that they have all the halogroups in their family tree, even all the Y, they are on the male maternal side, and all the mt on the female paternal side. Just different proportions, although something close statistically to the average frequency for your region/country.

[Defcon2]

Dodging E, J or N was good even if it doesnt mean much or anything, still feels better. Apart from that, i don't really care.

Something most people probably don't realize, is that they have all the halogroups in their family tree, even all the Y, they are on the male maternal side, and all the mt on the female paternal side. Just different proportions, although something close statistically to the average frequency for your region/country.

I do not understand, the haplogroup is not transmitted uninterruptedly from parents to children? until a certain age of course, the acquisition of the type of haplogroup is initially random. We only inherited one anyway.

[Mopi The Dire Wolf]

I'm Yamnaya as fack :p

[Petalpusher]

I do not understand, the haplogroup is not transmitted uninterruptedly from parents to children? until a certain age of course, the acquisition of the type of haplogroup is initially random. We only inherited one anyway.

Yes but that means both your Y and mt shown in your profile, you can only be sure half of your ancestors had that Y and mt. Half of what leads to you.

Your maternal grandfather could well have been R1 or I1, you wouldn't know about it, even less before that, like the grandfather of your mother etc.. And the mother of your father could have been L, you wouldn't know about it either. It's only half of the story, at best.

For example my grandmother on the paternal side is U5, should i identify as H1 or U5? She contributed equally as my maternal grandmother to me (25%), if she had been Chinese, i would still be mt H. Who knows how many different mt all my paternal female ancestors had. Same goes for Y. What you get in results is only all the men on your paternal side. That's 1/4 of all your human ancestors. They could have swap race a million times with the same Y anyway during all this time.

[Mont]

They had both, there is a carioca of portuguese minhoto paternal origin on anthopogenica with y DNA j1-L620 , not a semitic, nor farmer clade at , it is in a downstream branch of the khvalinky steppe herder i Just told you, that is possibly spread by indo europeans(maybe the alans?).My point is just J1 is not semitic exclusive, once its origins were in the caucasus this is perfectly understandable.
J1, in my case, is semitic, that's also my point. And the neolithic european farmers were way more J2 (which is anatolian, their place of origin) than J1.

[gixajo]

Yeah, R1a Slavic master-race.

Since no one dares to invade us, we invade ourselves. What more proof of superiority can you ask for?

Although unfortunately I don't like vodka, so I am not a good representative of my ancestral ethnicity.

[Tongio]

J1, in my case, is semitic, that's also my point. And the neolithic european farmers were way more J2 (which is anatolian, their place of origin) than J1.

Your clade z2215 is too upstream/basal to tell if its specificaly semitic, the indo european clade is downstream of yours(that means that with further testing It might be your clade). Anatolian farmers y DNA was E1b and G .
ALL J y DNA are of caucasian Hunter gatherers/iranian farmer origin and both J1 and J2 ocurred amomg european farmers as a minority.

[Mont]

Your clade z2215 is too upstream/basal to tell if its specificaly semitic, the indo european clade os downstream of yours. Anatolian farmers y DNA was E1b and G , J y DNA is of caucasian Hunter gatherers/iranian farmer origin and both J1 and J2 ocurred amomg european farmers as a minority.
Again, J2 was way more present than J1. Also, about the Yamnaya theory you said, I have heard people talking about J2 but never J1 present in Yamnaya, could you link me some studies?

[Tongio]

That is strange , you got few SNPs read, maybe you were negative for all the main branches genera generaly reads, like P58 ,the semitic branch.Some J1 branches in Europe might have been brough from the caucasus by the Yamnaya as two J1 infividuals have been found in the steppes, one recently in Khvalinsky, https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/42416-The-Eneolithic-cemetery-at-Khvalynsk-on-the-Volga-River, typical local autossomal.Neolithic farmers also had some J1, so you never know till tou get to know your specific branch.


Again, J2 was way more present than J1. Also, about the Yamnaya theory you said, I have heard people talking about J2 but never J1 present in Yamnaya, could you link me some studies?

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The study is the subject of this tread i have linked before.

https://www.eupedia.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=13175&d=1648410834

[Mont]

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The study is the subject of this tread i have linked before.
I have seen that one, but do you have more?

[Tongio]

I have seen that one, but do you have more?

I remember before this study there was already a J1 in the region among ancient steppe herders, i don't know where to find about it tho.

[Mont]

I remember before this study there was already a J1 in the region among ancient steppe herders, i don't know where to find about it tho.
I see, I also have seen a study about J1 in portuguese, it said that they all had the jewish modal haplotype and lacked the arab modal haplotype.

Let me see if I can find it again.

[Mont]

I found this one, although I still need to go to the computer (I'm on cellphone right now) to see if it's truly the one I have read, for I can only open full version of studies on the computer.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1529-8817.2005.00161.x

[Tongio]

I found this one, although I still need to go to the computer (I'm on cellphone right now) to see if it's truly the one I have read, for I can only open full version of studies on the computer.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1529-8817.2005.00161.x

https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/26998-History-and-Destiny-of-the-Portuguese-and-Brazilian-Y-DNA-J1b

[SilverKnight]

Absolutely disgusted, disappointed.

[Petalpusher]

J1, in my case, is semitic, that's also my point. And the neolithic european farmers were way more J2 (which is anatolian, their place of origin) than J1.


Your clade z2215 is too upstream/basal to tell if its specificaly semitic, the indo european clade is downstream of yours(that means that with further testing It might be your clade). Anatolian farmers y DNA was E1b and G .
ALL J y DNA are of caucasian Hunter gatherers/iranian farmer origin and both J1 and J2 ocurred amomg european farmers as a minority.

Neolithic farmers were not J or E, 1.5% each, the only E found was in the Balkan. They were mostly G and I2 out of 69 samples across all farmers cultures in Europe. :

Haplogroups----------------C1a---E1b----F---G2a---H2---I-----I1---I2a----J2---R1a---R1b---T
Neolithic Europe (n=69)----3-----1.5----6----61----3----3----1.5---16----1.5----0----1.5----3


I think some might confuse it with the frequency of mtDNA J, not the same thing.

[Leo Iscariot]

They’re alright. I’m still perplexed as to how I got my Y-DNA haplogroup, but I’m happy to be apart of the R1a1 master race lol.

[Longbowman]

Neolithic farmers were not J or E, 1.5% each, the only E found was in the Balkan. They were mostly G and I2 out of 69 samples across all farmers cultures in Europe. :

Haplogroups----------------C1a---E1b----F---G2a---H2---I-----I1---I2a----J2---R1a---R1b---T
Neolithic Europe (n=69)----3-----1.5----6----61----3----3----1.5---16----1.5----0----1.5----3


I think some might confuse it with the frequency of mtDNA J, not the same thing.

That's just the earliest wave tho.

[MCMXCV]

I’m very happy with my Y-chromosome haplogroup. Also with my mitochondrial whose subclade seems to be somewhat common in my country, but don’t know so much about it yet.

[Petalpusher]

That's just the earliest wave tho.

Thus the ENF Early Neolithic Farmers. Some countries can be modeled with just those and BA, which brought its own farmer-like Dzudzuana derived ancestry, some need other major inputs.

[Figaro]

Kinda do wonder about my MtDNA...it seems to really appear in Europe during the early Bronze Age ...I think a Scythian burial in the Caucasus had it too..

[Leto]

Absolutely disgusted, disappointed.
'Cause it's black African? I doubt you would hate an Iberian haplogroup.

[Longbowman]

Absolutely disgusted, disappointed.

Why?

[SilverKnight]

Why?

Good question. It's E, I wanted the mighty R1b :(

[Defcon2]

Good question. It's E, I wanted the mighty R1b :(

What subclade of E is it?

[Tongio]

Good question. It's E, I wanted the mighty R1b :(

E-V13 ? E-M81?
R1b is ordinary Ching chong lineage.

[Tongio]

What subclade of E is it?

I see you have company now, a guy from badajoz, but still TMRCA is from 1700 bc.

[SilverKnight]

What subclade of E is it?


E-V13 ? E-M81?
R1b is ordinary Ching chong lineage.

E-L133.1.

[Defcon2]

I see you have company now, a guy from badajoz, but still TMRCA is from 1700 bc.

The boy from Badajoz is me. :lol:

But they still have to estimate the age.

[Tongio]

E-L133.1.

Your paternal ancestor was a agricultural chad , surely a poligamous bunch. It seems E formed around southwest eurasia/Northeast africa and from there migrated tô subsaharan africa spreading agriculture, quite a interesting lineage dude.R1b is probably the most widespread and boring lineage in the world and was spread mostly by rape and contagious steppe diseases, no fun.

[Leto]

Your paternal ancestor was a agricultural chad , surely a poligamous bunch. It seems E formed around southwest eurasia/Northeast africa and from there migrated tô subsaharan africa spreading agriculture, quite a interesting lineage dude.R1b is probably the most widespread and boring lineage in the world and was spread mostly by rape and contagious steppe diseases, no fun.
He loves white people and I salute him for that. Enough of the Negro worship. Also his son is half German American, almost a white male.