Fire Haired
07-15-2013, 06:28 AM
Maciamo(head of Eupedia) just made a thread which shows a map of Italo Celtic Y DNA R1b S116 .
[/URL]http://www.eupedia.com/images/content/Celtic_Europe.gif (http://www.eupedia.com/europe/maps_Y-DNA_haplogroups.shtml#Celtic)
As you can see it dominates western Europe most Italo Celtic R1b S116 spread in the Iron age. proto Germanic Italo Celtic speakers with Y DNA R1b L11/P310 migrated to central Germany from the Steppes(central Russia) first about 5,000 years ago.
The Italo Celts split from Germanics about 4,500ybp in Germany. Germans split into R1b S28/U106 and migrated towards Denmark and southern Scandinavia . The Italo Celts split into R1b S116 and migrated towards Austria and France.
The Italo Celtic languages and R1b S116 3,200ybp only existed in modern Austria, Switzerland, most of modern day France, and possibly Britain and Ireland. Italo Celts in the Urnfield culture around modern day Austria 3,200ybp with R1b S28/U152 where some of the earliest Iron workers in Europe and the world.
Iron triggered Italic R1b S28/U152 invasion and conquering of Italy from Austria and Slovania 3,200-3,000ybp and Hallstat/La Dene Celtic R1b S28/U106 invasion and conquering of Iberia, France, parts of eastern Europe, and central Turkey. The Hallstat Celts conquered France in more of a Culturally way because most Italo Celtic R1b S116 in France is not R1b s28/U152 but the Hallstat Celts from Austria still where the dominate group.
R1b S28/U152 is the marker of these very early Iron age beast Italo Celtic warriors from central Europe
3,200ybp. Here is a map of R1b S28/U152.
http://www.eupedia.com/images/content/Haplogroup-R1b-S28.gif
In my opinion the Iron age Italo Celts warriors are one of the greatest warriors in history. They completely dominated western Europe. The ancient Celts Romans and Greeks knew still had the traditional Italo Celtic culture and lived in the areas Italo Celts began.
It is not a surprise the Celts where known as wicked warriors. The Romans and Greeks write about Celts actulley conquering people groups like the Etruscan's the same way earlier Italo Celts did. The Celts Still had that warrior culture and fighting spirit earlier Italo Celts did.
Here is a map of the furthest expansion of the Celts almost all of these areas they conquered in the Iron age.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1f/Celts_in_Europe.png
Here are some modern depictions of Celtic warriorshttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/_oz-quqRgtfc/Skg4oZ9APLI/AAAAAAAABAk/_y0ibiOTuw8/s400/italericelts.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=celtic+warriors&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=hVIiq3KtOaPt9M&tbnid=Qs1TU-z85wcbZM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.redrampant.com%2F2009%2F06%2F celtic-warriors.html&ei=w2niUd6zM--CyAHiyIDABQ&bvm=bv.48705608,d.aWc&psig=AFQjCNFaVPdiQXJeA_WUgO51fAeAqz1Puw&ust=1373879104095566)http://getasword.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/celtic-warriors.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=celtic+warrior&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=0wRue40-exxKXM&tbnid=Op7WEm7_YifhVM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fgetasword.com%2Fblog%2F1127-celtic-swords%2F&ei=VlzjUc3WPISSyAGX-oDgCA&bvm=bv.48705608,d.aWc&psig=AFQjCNFVg6XsxDLib3V6IuZYECs18-x2aA&ust=1373941168313900)
Ancient art depicting Celtic warriors
Almost all of these statues where made by Greeks and Romans of Hallstate/La Dene Celts. Who all originated around Austria and had been migrating and raiding many areas in Europe. All of them most likely had R1b S28/U152. The Greeks and Romans where very big enemies of these Celts. So most of these statues where made to celebrate victories they had over Celts.
As u can see almost all of the warriors are naked. This was a tradition for Celts naked warrior depictions have been found in Austria dating back 2,800 years. So it might be a Italo Celtic tradition that started in the Iron age, R1b S28/U152 Urnfield culture.
http://patricklavin.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/BronzeCelticWarrior.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=celtic%20warrior%20statue&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=eh9l-7dnhegsaM&tbnid=bSGGBCF-tuh9sM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fpatricklavin.com%2Fid20.html&ei=IGbjUaS3MKmMygH3rYGIBQ&psig=AFQjCNHgsJT0PIghVL0Eo4429TEWbIuBaQ&ust=1373943704231321)http://www.louvre.fr/sites/default/files/imagecache/235x196/medias/medias_images/images/louvre-gaulois-blesse.jpg?1336792617 (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=greek%2Bstatue%2Bof%2Bgaulic%2Bsucide&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=dckd6yvpbWsvoM&tbnid=Q-Fu0dJHLQzTeM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.louvre.fr%2Fen%2Foeuvre-notices%2Fstatue-wounded-galatian&ei=913jUf7ENO_wyAGWpYHwAQ&psig=AFQjCNFVb2C7zQo7BhHWiri9nfaCOe6wEw&ust=1373941557370083)
http://jachilli.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/dying_gaul_ind168896_hi.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=dying%2Bgaul&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=7mp1xOCH-meATM&tbnid=rCFKUPGRmZCPcM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fjustinachilli.com%2F2011%2F03%2F&ei=bV3jUdrYI4vBywGejYDQDw&psig=AFQjCNGDCdjMuDCj6HiXJ02AS6mXAEiLbw&ust=1373941439789803)
It was Celtic tradition to kill your self and your wife instead of becoming a prisoner of a ememy. Celtic tribes would commit mass sucide when lossing a major battle.
http://cciv214fa2012.site.wesleyan.edu/files/2012/10/ludovisi-gaul-suicide.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=greek%2Bstatue%2Bof%2Bgaulic%2Bsucide&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=h9NWpviRNiMexM&tbnid=cMJaiZ4UaUTcGM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fcciv214fa2012.site.wesleyan.edu%2 Fhellenistic-period%2Fludovisi-gaul-suicide%2F&ei=zV3jUfKwI-mfyQG80IDgBA&psig=AFQjCNFVb2C7zQo7BhHWiri9nfaCOe6wEw&ust=1373941557370083)
This is the type of Gaulic warrior Ceasar most likely fought. This statue was made in 100bc many Gauls had been influenced by Rome and the Mediterranean world. So they left the tradition of fighting naked. Instead they had very advanced Armour. They also began to Cut their hair short and shave their facial hair. He probably had R1b S116 but not R1b S28/U152
http://www.eccentricbliss.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Gaul_warrior_Vacheres_1.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=gallic%2Bwarrior%2Bstatue&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=PPLCb-59HBcN9M&tbnid=te_r6haYJQtslM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eccentricbliss.com%2Ftag%2Ffr ance%2F&ei=hV7jUfqSCcXYyQHOx4GACQ&psig=AFQjCNFrhDDfCEp8bjnqPvwqFo3aStIXVw&ust=1373941758591867)
Roman coins depicting Gaulic prisoners. They where apart of Hallstate/La Dene culture but most likley had a different R1b S116 subclade than R1b S28/U152. Or they had another haplogroup like G2a or I2a1a.
It was traditional for Celtic warriors to spike up their hair for battle it also made their hair a yellowish white color. Warriors all over the Celtic world it probably went back over 3,000 years.
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTHbkwK4iIM3jMqJ1PUzNUM4-r-WnX3dmnxWMyYrCXrQ34lz-pY (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=celtic%2Bprisoner%2Bon%2Broman%2Bcoin&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=DTRDPnIXsiyPMM&tbnid=-8wohJyVre_jMM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fahala_r ome%2Fsets%2F72157616061234078%2Fdetail%2F&ei=Y2bjUfCLEsqiyAHf34GoBg&psig=AFQjCNEAsZyXmJHRRDNS9NLbB_L281De8g&ust=1373943751963338)
a video which reconstructs Celts in battle(exaggerated) from the show deadliest warrior so it also has many parts with Persian Immortals.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=dVnKojz_z-U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVnKojz_z-U&feature=player_detailpage)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=qbm0vH0nyXU
Video trubute to Celtic warriors
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=DMN2zZ1Id4c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMN2zZ1Id4c&feature=player_detailpage)
It was these type of warriors that dominated bronze age and early iron age western and central Europe. The Celts even as recent as 2,200ybp where still conquering people and spreading their language if Romans(who where also Italo Celts but left the Italo Celtic culture) did not conquer the Celtic world. The Celts probably would have conquered most of eastern Europe and much of Italy(which was already Italic). It was warriors like Celts Romans and Greeks knew that spread R1b S116 and the Italo Celtic language.
In my opinion early iron age Italo Celtic warriors are the second greatest warriors in history. The greatest i think where the Roman centurion they dominated much more and had a long lasting empire for about 500 years. The Romans where Italic but from what i know they had lost the original Italo Celtic culture and where Greekified.
Romans though had a very strong warrior culture that went back to early Italic tribes and the founding of their city 2,753 years. Also Romans had mainly R1b S28/U106
The roman military was not like traditional Italo Celtic military. It was organized they had ranks, the solders where paid, not all the men in the tribe where forced to be warriors, they fought in battle as one unit not 5,000 men going on their own path. It took Rome hundreds of years to conquer Italy they conquered other Italic tribes, Celtic tribes in Italy, and non Indo European mid eastern Estrucans. They had all of Italy by 218bc.
After that Rome conquered almost all of western Europe(which was just about all Celtic), much of eastern Europe mainly the Balkans, and the Mediterranean coast of north Africa and the middle east by 117ad.
here is a map of Rome's greatest extent in 117ad
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/00/Roman_Empire_Trajan_117AD.png/800px-Roman_Empire_Trajan_117AD.png
The Roman military dominated like none other in history. No one could beat them the Romans defeated the greatest warriors of Europe, middle east, and north Africa. The Roman military was tougher, bigger, and smarter than any in the world.
They where in my opinion 10 times better than any warriors in India, China, or any where else in the world at that time. The western and eastern Roman empire existed from 27bc-476ad even after being constantly attacked by powerful enemies at their borders.
Here are modern people in Rome dressing in ancient Roman warrior equipment.
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02545/Rome_2545702b.jpghttps://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQoPBoTQWK9mC1nEXh389Lmy1gbcoDuG pPxFbAVdqoZTBI0GF3R
Ancient Depictions of Roman warriors
Roman warriors fighting Thracen tribes in modern day Bulgairia.
http://www.weapons-universe.com/Swords/Roman_and_Germanic_Armies_Battle.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=ancient%2Bdepictions%2Bof%2Broman%2Bwarriors&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=4GFeVvkBGypdHM&tbnid=aEyMnxT7vMtN4M:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.weapons-universe.com%2FSwords%2FAncient_Roman_Weapons.shtm l&ei=EWvjUcDeOoKxywHZ1YDwDQ&bvm=bv.48705608,d.aWc&psig=AFQjCNGQX6Am3VfacO5w63xKzH7DSZeIyA&ust=1373944965756712)
http://www.jcnot4me.com/images/Roman_Soldiers-web.gif (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=ancient%2Bdepictions%2Bof%2Broman%2Bwarriors&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=UrRbLZXVdfbouM&tbnid=Dis12vWmLV7iCM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jcnot4me.com%2FItems%2Fjc%3Dz ombie%2Froman_soldiers.htm&ei=kmvjUZjfIfPryAHhpYCoCw&bvm=bv.48705608,d.aWc&psig=AFQjCNGQX6Am3VfacO5w63xKzH7DSZeIyA&ust=1373944965756712)
Julis Ceasar possibly the greatest genral of all time.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/eb/Statue-Augustus.jpg/220px-Statue-Augustus.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=statues%2Bof%2Broman%2Bcenturions&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=ViTuzP3xYDMkKM&tbnid=cGTH0hwZpZMPPM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FAugust us&ei=N2zjUZ9A5JPJAbfAgPAF&psig=AFQjCNGGct5kd8-YW7rIftPhfX-F5ixhQA&ust=1373945154720958)
http://owlsmag.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/war_ef21.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=roman%2Bcenturion%2Bstatue&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=gbgDukFmFFzWOM&tbnid=vXEAEIIk-9bFkM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fowlsmag.wordpress.com%2Ftag%2Fgau l%2F&ei=Ym3jUayzBeKQyAH854C4Ag&psig=AFQjCNH60L0mYSexcJGGsPjps3d2y1pmFQ&ust=1373945548697290)
http://www.pbs.org/empires/romans/_graphics/pics/soldiers.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=roman%2Bcenturion%2Bstatue&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=gbgDukFmFFzWOM&tbnid=vXEAEIIk-9bFkM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pbs.org%2Fempires%2Fromans%2F empire%2Fsoldiers.html&ei=cm3jUZK_EKrSygGUgIGIDg&psig=AFQjCNH60L0mYSexcJGGsPjps3d2y1pmFQ&ust=1373945548697290)
Roman pot celebrating victory over Germanic tribes.
http://employees.oneonta.edu/farberas/arth/Images/109images/Roman/augustus/boscoreale_cup_1am.jpg (http://employees.oneonta.edu/farberas/arth/Images/109images/Roman/augustus/boscoreale_cup_1a.jpg)
Video tributes to Roman warriors.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=36NqK0kfcvg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Tj33b0a030&feature=player_detailpage)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=4lT8yRa5JA0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Tj33b0a030&feature=player_detailpage)
In my opinion the Bronze age R1b S116 and mainly early Iron age R1b S28/U152 Italo Celts where the greatest warriors of their time. And the ancient Romans in the late Iron age who spoke a Italic language and had mainly R1b S28/U152 where the greatest warriors in history.
So from 1,200BC-476AD the greatest warriors carried mainly Italo Celtic R1b S28/U152 and other R1b S116 subclades 1,200BC-476AD is pretty much the whole European and middle eastern Iron age. R1b S28/U152 is what i call the beast Iron age warrior marker. Other R1b S116 subclades count as beast Iron age and Bronze age warriors.
30-50% of modern western European men direct paternal line goes back to these warriors. This does not mean 30-50% of their ancestry just a direct line. Modern Day Irish, Welsh, Cornish, Scottish(mainly highlander Scottish) and Britanny people have almost 100% ancestry from early Italo Celts.
French,Swiss, alps people, and north Italians probably have the most ancestry Iron Age R1b S28/U152 Italo Celts. Mainly people in central France and Switzerland because that is where R1b S28/U152 began. north Italians got a significant amount of mid eastern blood during the Greco Roman age, French and Swiss got a alot of mid eastern blood while being apart of the Roman empire.
All modern western Europeans at least partial descend from Italo Celtic warriors.
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As you can see it dominates western Europe most Italo Celtic R1b S116 spread in the Iron age. proto Germanic Italo Celtic speakers with Y DNA R1b L11/P310 migrated to central Germany from the Steppes(central Russia) first about 5,000 years ago.
The Italo Celts split from Germanics about 4,500ybp in Germany. Germans split into R1b S28/U106 and migrated towards Denmark and southern Scandinavia . The Italo Celts split into R1b S116 and migrated towards Austria and France.
The Italo Celtic languages and R1b S116 3,200ybp only existed in modern Austria, Switzerland, most of modern day France, and possibly Britain and Ireland. Italo Celts in the Urnfield culture around modern day Austria 3,200ybp with R1b S28/U152 where some of the earliest Iron workers in Europe and the world.
Iron triggered Italic R1b S28/U152 invasion and conquering of Italy from Austria and Slovania 3,200-3,000ybp and Hallstat/La Dene Celtic R1b S28/U106 invasion and conquering of Iberia, France, parts of eastern Europe, and central Turkey. The Hallstat Celts conquered France in more of a Culturally way because most Italo Celtic R1b S116 in France is not R1b s28/U152 but the Hallstat Celts from Austria still where the dominate group.
R1b S28/U152 is the marker of these very early Iron age beast Italo Celtic warriors from central Europe
3,200ybp. Here is a map of R1b S28/U152.
http://www.eupedia.com/images/content/Haplogroup-R1b-S28.gif
In my opinion the Iron age Italo Celts warriors are one of the greatest warriors in history. They completely dominated western Europe. The ancient Celts Romans and Greeks knew still had the traditional Italo Celtic culture and lived in the areas Italo Celts began.
It is not a surprise the Celts where known as wicked warriors. The Romans and Greeks write about Celts actulley conquering people groups like the Etruscan's the same way earlier Italo Celts did. The Celts Still had that warrior culture and fighting spirit earlier Italo Celts did.
Here is a map of the furthest expansion of the Celts almost all of these areas they conquered in the Iron age.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1f/Celts_in_Europe.png
Here are some modern depictions of Celtic warriorshttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/_oz-quqRgtfc/Skg4oZ9APLI/AAAAAAAABAk/_y0ibiOTuw8/s400/italericelts.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=celtic+warriors&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=hVIiq3KtOaPt9M&tbnid=Qs1TU-z85wcbZM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.redrampant.com%2F2009%2F06%2F celtic-warriors.html&ei=w2niUd6zM--CyAHiyIDABQ&bvm=bv.48705608,d.aWc&psig=AFQjCNFaVPdiQXJeA_WUgO51fAeAqz1Puw&ust=1373879104095566)http://getasword.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/celtic-warriors.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=celtic+warrior&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=0wRue40-exxKXM&tbnid=Op7WEm7_YifhVM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fgetasword.com%2Fblog%2F1127-celtic-swords%2F&ei=VlzjUc3WPISSyAGX-oDgCA&bvm=bv.48705608,d.aWc&psig=AFQjCNFVg6XsxDLib3V6IuZYECs18-x2aA&ust=1373941168313900)
Ancient art depicting Celtic warriors
Almost all of these statues where made by Greeks and Romans of Hallstate/La Dene Celts. Who all originated around Austria and had been migrating and raiding many areas in Europe. All of them most likely had R1b S28/U152. The Greeks and Romans where very big enemies of these Celts. So most of these statues where made to celebrate victories they had over Celts.
As u can see almost all of the warriors are naked. This was a tradition for Celts naked warrior depictions have been found in Austria dating back 2,800 years. So it might be a Italo Celtic tradition that started in the Iron age, R1b S28/U152 Urnfield culture.
http://patricklavin.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/BronzeCelticWarrior.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=celtic%20warrior%20statue&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=eh9l-7dnhegsaM&tbnid=bSGGBCF-tuh9sM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fpatricklavin.com%2Fid20.html&ei=IGbjUaS3MKmMygH3rYGIBQ&psig=AFQjCNHgsJT0PIghVL0Eo4429TEWbIuBaQ&ust=1373943704231321)http://www.louvre.fr/sites/default/files/imagecache/235x196/medias/medias_images/images/louvre-gaulois-blesse.jpg?1336792617 (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=greek%2Bstatue%2Bof%2Bgaulic%2Bsucide&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=dckd6yvpbWsvoM&tbnid=Q-Fu0dJHLQzTeM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.louvre.fr%2Fen%2Foeuvre-notices%2Fstatue-wounded-galatian&ei=913jUf7ENO_wyAGWpYHwAQ&psig=AFQjCNFVb2C7zQo7BhHWiri9nfaCOe6wEw&ust=1373941557370083)
http://jachilli.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/dying_gaul_ind168896_hi.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=dying%2Bgaul&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=7mp1xOCH-meATM&tbnid=rCFKUPGRmZCPcM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fjustinachilli.com%2F2011%2F03%2F&ei=bV3jUdrYI4vBywGejYDQDw&psig=AFQjCNGDCdjMuDCj6HiXJ02AS6mXAEiLbw&ust=1373941439789803)
It was Celtic tradition to kill your self and your wife instead of becoming a prisoner of a ememy. Celtic tribes would commit mass sucide when lossing a major battle.
http://cciv214fa2012.site.wesleyan.edu/files/2012/10/ludovisi-gaul-suicide.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=greek%2Bstatue%2Bof%2Bgaulic%2Bsucide&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=h9NWpviRNiMexM&tbnid=cMJaiZ4UaUTcGM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fcciv214fa2012.site.wesleyan.edu%2 Fhellenistic-period%2Fludovisi-gaul-suicide%2F&ei=zV3jUfKwI-mfyQG80IDgBA&psig=AFQjCNFVb2C7zQo7BhHWiri9nfaCOe6wEw&ust=1373941557370083)
This is the type of Gaulic warrior Ceasar most likely fought. This statue was made in 100bc many Gauls had been influenced by Rome and the Mediterranean world. So they left the tradition of fighting naked. Instead they had very advanced Armour. They also began to Cut their hair short and shave their facial hair. He probably had R1b S116 but not R1b S28/U152
http://www.eccentricbliss.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Gaul_warrior_Vacheres_1.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=gallic%2Bwarrior%2Bstatue&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=PPLCb-59HBcN9M&tbnid=te_r6haYJQtslM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eccentricbliss.com%2Ftag%2Ffr ance%2F&ei=hV7jUfqSCcXYyQHOx4GACQ&psig=AFQjCNFrhDDfCEp8bjnqPvwqFo3aStIXVw&ust=1373941758591867)
Roman coins depicting Gaulic prisoners. They where apart of Hallstate/La Dene culture but most likley had a different R1b S116 subclade than R1b S28/U152. Or they had another haplogroup like G2a or I2a1a.
It was traditional for Celtic warriors to spike up their hair for battle it also made their hair a yellowish white color. Warriors all over the Celtic world it probably went back over 3,000 years.
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTHbkwK4iIM3jMqJ1PUzNUM4-r-WnX3dmnxWMyYrCXrQ34lz-pY (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=celtic%2Bprisoner%2Bon%2Broman%2Bcoin&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=DTRDPnIXsiyPMM&tbnid=-8wohJyVre_jMM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fahala_r ome%2Fsets%2F72157616061234078%2Fdetail%2F&ei=Y2bjUfCLEsqiyAHf34GoBg&psig=AFQjCNEAsZyXmJHRRDNS9NLbB_L281De8g&ust=1373943751963338)
a video which reconstructs Celts in battle(exaggerated) from the show deadliest warrior so it also has many parts with Persian Immortals.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=dVnKojz_z-U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVnKojz_z-U&feature=player_detailpage)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=qbm0vH0nyXU
Video trubute to Celtic warriors
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=DMN2zZ1Id4c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMN2zZ1Id4c&feature=player_detailpage)
It was these type of warriors that dominated bronze age and early iron age western and central Europe. The Celts even as recent as 2,200ybp where still conquering people and spreading their language if Romans(who where also Italo Celts but left the Italo Celtic culture) did not conquer the Celtic world. The Celts probably would have conquered most of eastern Europe and much of Italy(which was already Italic). It was warriors like Celts Romans and Greeks knew that spread R1b S116 and the Italo Celtic language.
In my opinion early iron age Italo Celtic warriors are the second greatest warriors in history. The greatest i think where the Roman centurion they dominated much more and had a long lasting empire for about 500 years. The Romans where Italic but from what i know they had lost the original Italo Celtic culture and where Greekified.
Romans though had a very strong warrior culture that went back to early Italic tribes and the founding of their city 2,753 years. Also Romans had mainly R1b S28/U106
The roman military was not like traditional Italo Celtic military. It was organized they had ranks, the solders where paid, not all the men in the tribe where forced to be warriors, they fought in battle as one unit not 5,000 men going on their own path. It took Rome hundreds of years to conquer Italy they conquered other Italic tribes, Celtic tribes in Italy, and non Indo European mid eastern Estrucans. They had all of Italy by 218bc.
After that Rome conquered almost all of western Europe(which was just about all Celtic), much of eastern Europe mainly the Balkans, and the Mediterranean coast of north Africa and the middle east by 117ad.
here is a map of Rome's greatest extent in 117ad
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/00/Roman_Empire_Trajan_117AD.png/800px-Roman_Empire_Trajan_117AD.png
The Roman military dominated like none other in history. No one could beat them the Romans defeated the greatest warriors of Europe, middle east, and north Africa. The Roman military was tougher, bigger, and smarter than any in the world.
They where in my opinion 10 times better than any warriors in India, China, or any where else in the world at that time. The western and eastern Roman empire existed from 27bc-476ad even after being constantly attacked by powerful enemies at their borders.
Here are modern people in Rome dressing in ancient Roman warrior equipment.
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02545/Rome_2545702b.jpghttps://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQoPBoTQWK9mC1nEXh389Lmy1gbcoDuG pPxFbAVdqoZTBI0GF3R
Ancient Depictions of Roman warriors
Roman warriors fighting Thracen tribes in modern day Bulgairia.
http://www.weapons-universe.com/Swords/Roman_and_Germanic_Armies_Battle.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=ancient%2Bdepictions%2Bof%2Broman%2Bwarriors&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=4GFeVvkBGypdHM&tbnid=aEyMnxT7vMtN4M:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.weapons-universe.com%2FSwords%2FAncient_Roman_Weapons.shtm l&ei=EWvjUcDeOoKxywHZ1YDwDQ&bvm=bv.48705608,d.aWc&psig=AFQjCNGQX6Am3VfacO5w63xKzH7DSZeIyA&ust=1373944965756712)
http://www.jcnot4me.com/images/Roman_Soldiers-web.gif (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=ancient%2Bdepictions%2Bof%2Broman%2Bwarriors&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=UrRbLZXVdfbouM&tbnid=Dis12vWmLV7iCM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jcnot4me.com%2FItems%2Fjc%3Dz ombie%2Froman_soldiers.htm&ei=kmvjUZjfIfPryAHhpYCoCw&bvm=bv.48705608,d.aWc&psig=AFQjCNGQX6Am3VfacO5w63xKzH7DSZeIyA&ust=1373944965756712)
Julis Ceasar possibly the greatest genral of all time.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/eb/Statue-Augustus.jpg/220px-Statue-Augustus.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=statues%2Bof%2Broman%2Bcenturions&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=ViTuzP3xYDMkKM&tbnid=cGTH0hwZpZMPPM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FAugust us&ei=N2zjUZ9A5JPJAbfAgPAF&psig=AFQjCNGGct5kd8-YW7rIftPhfX-F5ixhQA&ust=1373945154720958)
http://owlsmag.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/war_ef21.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=roman%2Bcenturion%2Bstatue&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=gbgDukFmFFzWOM&tbnid=vXEAEIIk-9bFkM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fowlsmag.wordpress.com%2Ftag%2Fgau l%2F&ei=Ym3jUayzBeKQyAH854C4Ag&psig=AFQjCNH60L0mYSexcJGGsPjps3d2y1pmFQ&ust=1373945548697290)
http://www.pbs.org/empires/romans/_graphics/pics/soldiers.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=roman%2Bcenturion%2Bstatue&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=gbgDukFmFFzWOM&tbnid=vXEAEIIk-9bFkM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pbs.org%2Fempires%2Fromans%2F empire%2Fsoldiers.html&ei=cm3jUZK_EKrSygGUgIGIDg&psig=AFQjCNH60L0mYSexcJGGsPjps3d2y1pmFQ&ust=1373945548697290)
Roman pot celebrating victory over Germanic tribes.
http://employees.oneonta.edu/farberas/arth/Images/109images/Roman/augustus/boscoreale_cup_1am.jpg (http://employees.oneonta.edu/farberas/arth/Images/109images/Roman/augustus/boscoreale_cup_1a.jpg)
Video tributes to Roman warriors.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=36NqK0kfcvg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Tj33b0a030&feature=player_detailpage)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=4lT8yRa5JA0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Tj33b0a030&feature=player_detailpage)
In my opinion the Bronze age R1b S116 and mainly early Iron age R1b S28/U152 Italo Celts where the greatest warriors of their time. And the ancient Romans in the late Iron age who spoke a Italic language and had mainly R1b S28/U152 where the greatest warriors in history.
So from 1,200BC-476AD the greatest warriors carried mainly Italo Celtic R1b S28/U152 and other R1b S116 subclades 1,200BC-476AD is pretty much the whole European and middle eastern Iron age. R1b S28/U152 is what i call the beast Iron age warrior marker. Other R1b S116 subclades count as beast Iron age and Bronze age warriors.
30-50% of modern western European men direct paternal line goes back to these warriors. This does not mean 30-50% of their ancestry just a direct line. Modern Day Irish, Welsh, Cornish, Scottish(mainly highlander Scottish) and Britanny people have almost 100% ancestry from early Italo Celts.
French,Swiss, alps people, and north Italians probably have the most ancestry Iron Age R1b S28/U152 Italo Celts. Mainly people in central France and Switzerland because that is where R1b S28/U152 began. north Italians got a significant amount of mid eastern blood during the Greco Roman age, French and Swiss got a alot of mid eastern blood while being apart of the Roman empire.
All modern western Europeans at least partial descend from Italo Celtic warriors.
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