gedmatch calculators which one is best for jewish ancestry

[Mortimer]

im using Oracle x with gedmatch now. often i get some sephardi or other jewish results up to 10 and more %. im interested wich calculator is the best and which pc option 1 or 2 to inferr if there is really some jewish ancestry.

for example Dodecad V3

Admix Results:


# Population Percent
1 East_European 13.95
2 West_European 21.26
3 Mediterranean 23.88
4 Neo_African 0.03
5 West_Asian 17.38
6 South_Asian 12.28
7 Northeast_Asian 0.49
8 Southeast_Asian 2.87
9 East_African 0.30
10 Southwest_Asian 6.55
11 Northwest_African 0.85
12 Palaeo_African 0.17


Pct. Calc. Option 1


0 Unable to determine 0.09%
1 Romanians_14 54.95%
2 Madiga 15.98%
3 Lezgins 8.10%
4 Irish 7.98%
5 Sephardic_Jews 6.78%
6 Saudis 4.85%
7 Iban 0.80%
8 TUNISIA 0.47%
9 Morocco_N 0.00%
10 North_African 0.00%

on MDLP World im 10.5% Jew_Kurd and 8% Ajv52, i dont know what that exactly means but i think Aj could stand for Ashkenazi Jew. I think thats on PC 2. I didnt went through all calculators. Can you help. Thanks

[Mark]

That's a good question because many would think Jtest (http://bga101.blogspot.com/2012/09/eurogenes-ashkenazim-ancestry-test-files.html) is the definitive Jewish calculator but it may not be.
I think that between 23andMe, K36 (near east populations) and Jtest/Eutest in conjunction with your personal history is the best gauge.

[Mortimer]

That's a good question because many would think Jtest (http://bga101.blogspot.com/2012/09/eurogenes-ashkenazim-ancestry-test-files.html) is the definitive Jewish calculator but it may not be. I think that between 23andMe, K36 (near east populations) and Jtest/Eutest in conjunction with your personal history is the best gauge.

i need to do K36. well Jtest doesnt make me jewish i think. It gives me only 4% jewish. that is what most others score too who dont have any jewish ancestry.

[Mark]

i need to do K36. well Jtest doesnt make me jewish i think. It gives me only 4% jewish. that is what most others score too who dont have any jewish ancestry.
Yes, I think 4% is average, at least for the members who post here. Mine is 24% If I remember, which guarantees me as Ashkenazi.

[Mortimer]

Yes, I think 4% is average, at least for the members who post here. Mine is 24% If I remember, which guarantees me as Ashkenazi.

im right now trying to do K36 but gedmatch is fucking with me

[Mark]

im right now trying to do K36 but gedmatch is fucking with me
You'll get your results a lot faster via GEDmatch than with Dodecad and R.

[Mortimer]

You'll get your results a lot faster via GEDmatch than with Dodecad and R.

true but i think there is kinda a server problem right now.

[Mortimer]

Yes, I think 4% is average, at least for the members who post here. Mine is 24% If I remember, which guarantees me as Ashkenazi.

I did Eurogenes K36 right now. Can you help me interpret my results in light of jewish ancestry? There is no jewish population but you said it is good.

Population
Amerindian 0.30%
Arabian 0.87%
Armenian 2.09%
Basque 2.39%
Central_African 0.10%
Central_Euro 7.61%
East_African -
East_Asian 0.93%
East_Balkan 4.37%
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 7.48%
East_Med 4.96%
Eastern_Euro 5.22%
Fennoscandian -
French 3.09%
Iberian 5.42%
Indo-Chinese 0.19%
Italian 17.72%
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 5.20%
North_African -
North_Atlantic -
North_Caucasian 8.21%
North_Sea 1.70%
Northeast_African -
Oceanian 1.00%
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian 11.13%
South_Central_Asian 6.38%
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 0.32%
West_Med 3.19%

[Mark]

I did Eurogenes K36 right now. Can you help me interpret my results in light of jewish ancestry? There is no jewish population but you said it is good.

Population
Amerindian 0.30%
Arabian 0.87%
Armenian 2.09%
Basque 2.39%
Central_African 0.10%
Central_Euro 7.61%
East_African -
East_Asian 0.93%
East_Balkan 4.37%
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 7.48%
East_Med 4.96%
Eastern_Euro 5.22%
Fennoscandian -
French 3.09%
Iberian 5.42%
Indo-Chinese 0.19%
Italian 17.72%
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 5.20%
North_African -
North_Atlantic -
North_Caucasian 8.21%
North_Sea 1.70%
Northeast_African -
Oceanian 1.00%
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian 11.13%
South_Central_Asian 6.38%
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 0.32%
West_Med 3.19%

I highlighted in red the ones that would have the Jewish if any, but Jews weren't used in the reference populations - these groups were. (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9o3EYTdM8lQUlVTRmxQdGpZdW8/edit?pli=1) Actually, the Arabian count used Jews.

[YeshAtid]

it's still quite minor

[Mortimer]

I highlighted in red the ones that would have the Jewish if any, but Jews weren't used in the reference populations - these groups were. (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9o3EYTdM8lQUlVTRmxQdGpZdW8/edit?pli=1) Actually, the Arabian count used Jews.

but can you see if there is any jewish? and how? can you post yours for comparison

[Mark]

but can you see if there is any jewish? and how? can you post yours for comparison

My K36 via GEDmatch:

16.30% East_Med
15.32% Near_Eastern
15.07% Italian
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9.04% Iberian
4.81% West_Med
6.46% Arabian
4.88% East_Central_Euro
4.00% Central_Euro
3.99% Armenian
3.81% West_Caucasian
3.55% East_Balkan
2.93% North_Atlantic
2.64% North_African
2.32% North_Sea
2.13% Basque
1.56% French
-----------------------------------------------------
0.66% Volga-Ural
0.40% Northeast_African
0.06% North_Caucasian
0.05% Eastern_Euro
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0.00% Amerindian
0.00% Central_African
0.00% East_African
0.00% East_Asian
0.00% East_Central_Asian
0.00% Fennoscandian
0.00% Indo-Chinese
0.00% Malayan
0.00% Oceanian
0.00% Omotic
0.00% Pygmy
0.00% Siberian
0.00% South_Asian
0.00% South_Central_Asian
0.00% South_Chinese
0.00% West_African
----------------------------------------------------

[Mortimer]

My K36 via GEDmatch:

16.30% East_Med
15.32% Near_Eastern
15.07% Italian
-----------------------------------------------------
9.04% Iberian
4.81% West_Med
6.46% Arabian
4.88% East_Central_Euro
4.00% Central_Euro
3.99% Armenian
3.81% West_Caucasian
3.55% East_Balkan
2.93% North_Atlantic
2.64% North_African
2.32% North_Sea
2.13% Basque
1.56% French
-----------------------------------------------------
0.66% Volga-Ural
0.40% Northeast_African
0.06% North_Caucasian
0.05% Eastern_Euro
------------------------------------------------------
0.00% Amerindian
0.00% Central_African
0.00% East_African
0.00% East_Asian
0.00% East_Central_Asian
0.00% Fennoscandian
0.00% Indo-Chinese
0.00% Malayan
0.00% Oceanian
0.00% Omotic
0.00% Pygmy
0.00% Siberian
0.00% South_Asian
0.00% South_Central_Asian
0.00% South_Chinese
0.00% West_African
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so i could have some jewish but a lot less then you. i score some east med arabian and near eastern.

[Mark]

so i could have some jewish but a lot less then you. i score some east med arabian and near eastern.
Yes, although those numbers don't necessarily mean Jewish, but more Middle-Eastern/Levantine areas.

[Mortimer]

Yes, although those numbers don't necessarily mean Jewish, but more Middle-Eastern/Levantine areas.

i think i dont have any connection to levant except maybe via south european ancestry either or jewish

[Mark]

i think i dont have any connection to levant except maybe via south european ancestry either or jewish

Probably, but 23andme shows you having distant Ashkenazi--so, assuming it's not noise, you have A Jewish relative in your pool but how distant is difficult to determine.