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ButlerKing
08-03-2013, 04:17 AM
Btw I'm going to make a list of Siberians, Native American, Europeans with haplogroup Q. So check this thread once in a while.


Chelkans in SIBERIA are turkic ethnic group and they have 60% of haplogroup Q

http://www.joshuaproject.net/profiles/photos/p13940.jpg

Tubalar in Siberia are turkic ethnic group in Northern altay they have 37% of haplogroup Q
http://www.joshuaproject.net/profiles/photos/p16024.jpg


And Tuvans another Siberian Turkic group with 38% haplogroup Q

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/tUrHLwNRX48/0.jpg


Mixed groups

Selkup 66% haplogroup Q
http://www.gazprom.com/f/posts/95/299107/yrm-energy-of-nature-43.jpg


Kets 87% haplogroup Q

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/91/Ket_shaman_1914.png/300px-Ket_shaman_1914.png

Annihilus
08-03-2013, 04:18 AM
Q+N is own race, now bugger off.

Anglojew
08-03-2013, 04:49 AM
汉语/漢語

ButlerKing
08-03-2013, 04:53 AM
Q+N is own race, now bugger off.

Haplogroup Q reaches in Native American with 70-100% Q where European DNA admixture reaches 0%

The Ache and Surui they have 80-100% Q but lack any european dna.

http://signaturebooks.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/dna2.jpg

ButlerKing
08-03-2013, 04:55 AM
While in Jews who have 5% Q shows east Asians DNA http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Ish7688voT0/TMK-SiAORmI/AAAAAAAACwY/zXM2RjR8z1U/s1600/ASHKENAZI_10.png

0.3% to 3.9% East Asian

There is no Mongoloid mtDNA in Jews, and no C3, N but there is haplogroup Q at 5%.

ButlerKing
08-03-2013, 04:56 AM
http://i45.tinypic.com/1fgxhc.jpg

Haplogroup Q-M25 reaches 42.6% among the Turkmen in northern parts of Iran and they are supposedly mixture of Mongoloid and Caucasoid.

Haplogroup Q reaches at maximum 60% in many South Siberian especially at North Siberian tribes where it peaks at 80%.


http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1436/1305972490_31c7abf361.jpg
http://footbik.narod.ru/IGROKY/A/IZO/AZIZI_KHODADAD_jpg.jpg
http://i46.tinypic.com/4t3pr8.jpg

Philo
08-03-2013, 04:57 AM
Q is found in Arabians too, I think that's the connection here. Ashkenazi Q is entirely Q1b.

ButlerKing
08-03-2013, 05:05 AM
Q is found in Arabians too, I think that's the connection here. Ashkenazi Q is entirely Q1b.

It could be from the Seljuks. They ruled parts of Arabic speaking area. Turkish turks have 10-20% Mongoloid admixture but Q is only 2.6% although one study did showed 3.7% but this is explained by the fact Turks were hybrid race. It's very possibly that a few percentages of Arabs with R1b ( if it did come from Turks ) were already Mongoloid mixed.

Azeris have 6% Mongoloid mtDNA and 5-10% haplogroup Q. They have 5 - 23% Mongoloid admixture.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c3/Seljuk_Empire_locator_map.svg

Anglojew
08-03-2013, 05:49 AM
鬼佬

Anglojew
08-06-2013, 03:07 AM
Apparantly it's from some element within the Persian empire that reached Assyria about 800BC (people are speculating either Scythian or Cimmerians as well) rather than an Khazar or more recent addition. Assyrians and a few Armenians also have it.

Tatar
10-08-2013, 04:36 AM
Q1b is a jewish/south european/phoenician haplogroup
Q1a is haplogroup found in Hungary/Ukraine + siberian people + mongols + ancient DNA from mongoloid Xiongnu

Ülev
10-29-2017, 08:25 PM
el bumpo

Grab the Gauge
10-31-2017, 09:12 AM
There is no Mongoloid mtDNA in Jews

Wrong. Do you get off on making incorrect statements all day?


https://www.nature.com/articles/srep08377

ButlerKing
10-31-2017, 05:37 PM
Wrong. Do you get off on making incorrect statements all day?


https://www.nature.com/articles/srep08377

No, look at the time gap of when this thread was created and your DNA study published in 2015, in's been a over a year.

Grab the Gauge
10-31-2017, 06:39 PM
Sorry but that's no excuse, that paper was published after this thread was made but it was well known that Jews had M33c and N9a3 in 2013.

ButlerKing
11-01-2017, 12:22 AM
Sorry but that's no excuse, that paper was published after this thread was made but it was well known that Jews had M33c and N9a3 in 2013.

Received:
30 October 2014
Accepted:
14 January 2015
Published online:
11 February 2015

Aenar
11-01-2017, 12:29 AM
Khazars probably.

Smeagol
11-01-2017, 12:31 AM
Among Russian Jews it is not difficult to select individuals with large malars, broad, snubbed noses, and high alveolar segments of the upper face, who are as nearly mongoloid as many Volga Finns
(Coon, 1939)

Rethel
11-01-2017, 06:03 AM
:confused:

Grab the Gauge
11-03-2017, 09:32 PM
Received:
30 October 2014
Accepted:
14 January 2015
Published online:
11 February 2015

That was a typo, what I meant to type was "wasnt" but the fact remains that it wws common knowledge that MTDNA from East Asia existed in Jews prior to the publishing of that paper.