Croats, happy operation "Storm" anniversary!

[Gorštak]

All started on this day, I'm proud that Bosnia Army also participated in this key battle


"Operation Storm (Bosnian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_language), Croatian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatian_language) and Serbian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbian_language): Operacija Oluja, Serbian Cyrillic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrillic_script): Oпeрaциja Oлуja) was the last major battle of the Croatian War of Independence (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatian_War_of_Independence). It was a decisive victory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decisive_victory) of the Croatian Army (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatian_Army) (HV) which attacked across a 630-kilometre (390 mi) frontage against the Republic of Serbian Krajina (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Serbian_Krajina) (RSK). The HV was supported by the Croatian special police (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_enforcement_in_Croatia) advancing from the Velebit (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velebit) Mountain, and the Army of the Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_of_the_Republic_of_Bosnia_and_Herzegovina) (ARBiH) located in the Bihać pocket (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biha%C4%87_pocket), in the Army of the Republic of Serb Krajina (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_of_the_Republic_of_Serb_Krajina) (ARSK) rear. The battle, launched to restore Croatian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatia) control of 10,400 square kilometres (4,000 square miles) of territory, representing 18.4% of the country, was the largest European land battle since the Second World War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II). Operation Storm commenced at dawn on 4 August 1995 and was declared complete on the evening of 7 August, despite significant mopping-up operations against pockets of resistance lasting until 14 August."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Storm


Croat boy with newspapers, on front page " Knin is free now!"
http://zaslike.com/files/o99qbwrckx21otw2qj.jpeg

Storm is coming

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bw88Nnat9fM
Croatia Army entering to the liberated Knin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLx5NnqN4ss

Croatia Army meets Bosnia Army

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyMua5tlz00


General Ante Gotovina, who commanded final battle against Serbs terrorists and extremists
http://zaslike.com/files/adxsriprdvzmxdo7nyd9.jpg


Like old Croatia patriotic song say " thick fog will come again"( thick fog
symbolizes the raising of the Croatian Army), and when thick fog disappears, many will stay forever losted in that fog. In 1995, once again thick fog come for Serbs.

[Methmatician]

You're a sick man, Black Swan :crazy:

[Gorštak]

You're a sick man, Black Swan :crazy:
And you're disgrace, man without nationality, if we don't count "wannabe Serb" for nationality.
Operation Storm is one of greatest victories of good on evil in history for all normal people, and you have problems with that?

Pobjegulja jedna izdajnička i genetički odpad našao meni nešto govorit.

[Methmatician]

And you're disgrace, man without nationality, if we don't count "wannabe Serb" for nationality.

Pobjegulja jedna izdajnička i genetički odpad našao meni nešto govorit.


People's homes were burned to the ground so that they wouldn't have anything to return to. It's not exactly something to celebrate or be proud of.

[Gorštak]

People's homes were burned to the ground so that they wouldn't have anything to return to. It's not exactly something to celebrate or be proud of.

And what happened to Croats homes at time when Serbs controlled that area? Did they allow Croats to stay in their homes:whistle:
If you don't know, I will say you: Serbs expelled Croats from area they controlled, killed many of them , burned Croats villages and Croats churches.
"Whoever Plays with Fire Gets Burnt"http://www.theapricity.com/forum/images/smilies/laugh.gif
And "Storm" happen only couple of days after Srebrenica, where Serbs committed worst war crime in Europe after WW2, I didn't see you to complain about those victims, Depot.

[Chieftain]

Today is a good day.

[Minesweeper]

Black Swan, припази шта причаш, имаш жути картон и само те чекам да направиш срање да ти могу дати други.

[Gorštak]

Black Swan, припази шта причаш, имаш жути картон и само те чекам да направиш срање да ти могу дати други.

Сретан празник и теби, као прави Еуропејац модерних схватања вјерујем да знаш цијенити побједу антифашизма, демократије и правде над фашисзмом,екстремистима и терористима.

[Minesweeper]

Сретан празник и теби, као прави Еуропејац модерних схватања вјерујем да знаш цијенити побједу антифашизма, демократије и правде над фашисзмом,екстремистима и терористима.

Упозорио сам те, а ти гледај шта ћеш и како ћеш.

[RandoBloom]

Упозорио сам те, а ти гледај шта ћеш и како ћеш.


Black Swan, припази шта причаш, имаш жути картон и само те чекам да направиш срање да ти могу дати други.


And I reported you, now you look what are you going to do and how will you abuse moderator priviledges

[Methmatician]

And what happened to Croats homes at time when Serbs controlled that area? Did they allow Croats to stay in their homes:whistle:
If you don't know, I will say you: Serbs expelled Croats from area they controlled, killed many of them , burned Croats villages and Croats churches.
"Whoever Plays with Fire Gets Burnt"http://www.theapricity.com/forum/images/smilies/laugh.gif
And "Storm" happen only couple of days after Srebrenica, where Serbs committed worst war crime in Europe after WW2, I didn't see you to complain about those victims, Depot.

You're merging all the Serbs, from Krajina to the Drina, as if they are all responsible for every crime committed by just one of them. People like this probably didn't do anything and were only caught up in the conflict:

http://www.wunrn.com/news/2012/11_12/11_19/111912_serbia_files/image001.jpg

And the 'eye for an eye' argument doesn't work because not everyone who was driven out of Croatia contributed to the expulsion of Croats. And you can't right two wrongs.

[armenianbodyhair]

I am embarassed to be from this part of the world. :picard1:

[Gorštak]

You're merging all the Serbs, from Krajina to the Drina, as if they are all responsible for every crime committed by just one of them. People like this probably didn't do anything and were only caught up in the conflict:

http://www.wunrn.com/news/2012/11_12/11_19/111912_serbia_files/image001.jpg

And the 'eye for an eye' argument doesn't work because not everyone who was driven out of Croatia contributed to the expulsion of Croats. And you can't right two wrongs.

Every man who comited war crime should be sentenced.
But because some civilians were killed in that operation, doesn't change a fact that Croats had the right to do this operation.
Operation "Storm" is legitimate and famous battle victory, where unfortunately some war crimed happen, which still don't change greatness of this victory.
Serbs tried to take part of Croatia and make it Serbs state, Croats did what people of every other state would do in that situation.
And don't play on that card posting photos I guess later killed Serb civilians.
If I start posting more than 30 000 killed Bosniaks civillians it would last to long.

[Methmatician]

Every man who comited war crime should be sentenced.
But because some civilians were killed in that operation, doesn't change a fact that Croats were a good side and Serbs a evil side( or killed Germans civilians mean that Germans were good side?).
Operation "Storm" is legitimate and famous battle victory, where unfortunately some war crimed happen, which still don't change greatness of this victory.
Serbs tried to take part of Croatia and make it Serbs state, Croats did what people of every other state would do in that situation.

It was ethnic cleansing disguised as a legitimate military operation. And only a backwards Balkan idiot would simplify this war into the "evil" and "good" sides.

[RandoBloom]

It was ethnic cleansing disguised as a legitimate military operation. And only a backwards Balkan idiot would simplify this war into the "evil" and "good" sides.

Ethnic cleansing? NO ONE FORCED THE SERBS TO LEAVE, their government scared them all to death with propaganda.If anyone was responsible its the serbs themselves with their stories of Serb children being thrown to lions at the zoo, and other bullshit.

[Gorštak]

It was ethnic cleansing disguised as a legitimate military operation. And only a backwards Balkan idiot would simplify this war into the "evil" and "good" sides.

Ok, it was ethnic cleansing on poor Serbs, Serbs were not evil side in this conflict now GTFO, we here glorify victory where Croats give last bullet in the body of "Great Serbia".

[Methmatician]

Ethnic cleansing? NO ONE FORCED THE SERBS TO LEAVE, their government scared them all to death with propaganda.If anyone was responsible its the serbs themselves with their stories of Serb children being thrown to lions at the zoo, and other bullshit.

Like I said before, homes were burnt so that they had nothing to return to.

[Minesweeper]

No one forced Serbs to leave. I guess they should have stayed in shelled cities. Look at material destruction done to residential areas of Knin, for example. Imagine what would happen if those people stayed. And Croatian forces are responsible for killing some older civilians who stayed so your point is not valid.

[Gorštak]

Ethnic cleansing? NO ONE FORCED THE SERBS TO LEAVE, their government scared them all to death with propaganda.If anyone was responsible its the serbs themselves with their stories of Serb children being thrown to lions at the zoo, and other bullshit.

Let it, he is man who say that his parents are Bosniaks but he isn't, that's enough about him, wannabe Serb.
They took huge part of Croatia, killed or expelled Croats from that area, burned their villages, destroyed their churches, and later they don't get it why Croats didn't liked that at all and decided to respond by force.

[RandoBloom]

Like I said before, homes were burnt so that they had nothing to return to.

LOL, make that a quadruple LOL. Bosniaks had all the factories destroyed. No home was left undamaged and undestroyed. Families were lost. Rape camps, slithing of throats etc... And they returned.
That is a bullshit story. Serbian media scared their entire population for half a decade, with most gruesome stories which their sick mind could invent. And then serbs ran as hell since they believed what they were told. The reason they didnt return is because the government settled them on Kosovo where they attacked Albanians

[Kiyant]

Well after i saw what serbs did to croatians/albanian/bosnians my emphaty holds itself to the ground.
Not like innocent deserved death but its funny how serbs cry about this but they say srbrenica is fake/nato propaganda/were only muslims/bosnians are Turks and are still tryieng to justify what they did.

[RandoBloom]

No one forced Serbs to leave. I guess they should have stayed in shelled cities. Look at material destruction done to residential areas of Knin, for example. Imagine what would happen if those people stayed. And Croatian forces are responsible for killing some older civilians who stayed so your point is not valid.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFtazqZUYqE

What about Bosniaks? How did they stay? Being shelled not for few days but for years?

Or shelling of Dubrovnik?
http://metro-portal.hr/img/repository/2011/04/medium/dubrovnik_wiki_rat.jpg

[Kiyant]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFtazqZUYqE

What about Bosniaks? How did they stay? Being shelled not for few days but for years?

Or shelling of Dubrovnik?
http://metro-portal.hr/img/repository/2011/04/medium/dubrovnik_wiki_rat.jpg
Im shocked to see this that poor man does someone know what happened to him?

[RandoBloom]

Im shocked to see this that poor man does someone know what happened to him?

Lost both his legs. Allive.

[Minesweeper]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFtazqZUYqE

What about Bosniaks? How did they stay? Being shelled not for few days but for years?

Or shelling of Dubrovnik?
http://metro-portal.hr/img/repository/2011/04/medium/dubrovnik_wiki_rat.jpg

I don't care about Sarajevo and Dubrovnik, we're discussing Knin and Krajina in August 1995.

Now tell me, are Serbs fools for leaving shelled cities? Are Serbs fools for leaving in front of the army that killed over 200 remaining civilians?(Croatian claim)

Or you think that shelling of Dubrovnik justifies crimes done in Storm? If you do, we have nothing to discuss.

[Gorštak]

I don't care about Sarajevo and Dubrovnik, we're discussing Knin and Krajina in August 1995.

Now tell me, are Serbs fools for leaving shelled cities? Are Serbs fools for leaving in front of the army that killed over 200 remaining civilians?(Croatian claim)

Or you think that shelling of Dubrovnik justifies crimes done in Storm? If you do, we have nothing to discuss.

Why they don't come to live in Croatia now?
There is no war now, and Croatia is part of EU.
Problem with Serbs is that you don't want to live somewhere if it isn't controled only by you.
But bigger problem is that Serbs though that they can took parts of other states and make it Serbs only state.

[RandoBloom]

I don't care about Sarajevo and Dubrovnik, we're discussing Knin and Krajina in August 1995.

Now tell me, are Serbs fools for leaving shelled cities? Are Serbs fools for leaving in front of the army that killed over 200 remaining civilians?(Croatian claim)

Or you think that shelling of Dubrovnik justifies crimes done in Storm? If you do, we have nothing to discuss.

I know you dont care. All you care is Serbs. They shouldnt have commited a treason against their own country, they should have go with democratic wishes of 2/3 of population and they shouldnt have killed civilians, rape, force them out of homes and commit other atrocities.
200 is... 40 times less than Srebrenica, yet that doesnt interest you does it ;)
Vukovar
http://www.jutarnji.hr/multimedia/archive/00351/vukovar_351531S1.jpg


VS Knin

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_tdDtov75p90/SwfjodO1sWI/AAAAAAAABcQ/2han8H64kIc/s1600/olujad3is9.jpg

Its obvious who targeted civilians and aimed to destroy everything non-serb

[Gorštak]

Slobodan Milosevic::lol:
"6,000 Croats defended Vukovar for half a year; the entire 1st Army attacked, the air force, a miracle, all the force that the JNA had, and they [Serbs] didn’t defend Knin, which can only be approached from three directions; they couldn’t defend it even 12 hours??They did not defend it, because according to all reports that we have received from the police, citiizens and the rest, as soon as the artillery preparations ended at seven in the evening, they ordered – a fleeing."

Parade of Serbs Army before "Storm"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyYtxDO-uVE

[Guapo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFtazqZUYqE

What about Bosniaks? How did they stay? Being shelled not for few days but for years?

Or shelling of Dubrovnik?
http://metro-portal.hr/img/repository/2011/04/medium/dubrovnik_wiki_rat.jpg

Lol Montenegrins shelled Dubrovnik and Bosniak army shelled their own civilians in Sarajevo

http://www.srpska-mreza.com/Bosnia/Sarajevo/mark1-news.html


that civilian deaths in Muslim-held Sarajevo attributed to the Bosnian Serb Army were in some cases actually inflicted by operatives of the Izetbegovic regime in an (ultimately successful) effort to secure American intervention on Sarajevo’s behalf.




http://elections.thinkaboutit.eu/2009/07/srebrenica-again-hoax-or-massacre/


"Phase Three started with a self-inflicted major terrorist provocation. On February 5, 1994, a major explosion rocked the Markale Sarajevo s main market place causing heavy casualties. What was immediately described as the ubiquitous 'Serb mortar shell' was actually a special charge designed and built with the help from Hizballah experts and then most likely dropped from a nearby rooftop onto the crowd of shoppers. Video cameras at the ready recorded this expertly-staged spectacle of gore, while dozens of corpses of Bosnian Muslim troops killed in action (exchanged the day before in a body swap with the Serbs) were paraded in front of cameras to raise the casualty counts.

http://www.antiwar.com/orig/jatras8.html


The Galic Trial Chamber also noted that "Evidence to the effect that ABiH forces attacked their own civilians was adduced at trial. UN representatives stationed in Sarajevo testified that, during the conflict, information had been gathered indicating that elements sympathetic or belonging to the ABiH may have shelled on occasions the Muslim population of Sarajevo. More generally, such elements would have engaged in behaviour objectively putting civilians in ABiH-controlled territory at risk in order to draw international sympathy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markale_massacres

Your own people killed innocent muslim civilians to win sympathy? sick

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view3/4762255/shaq-s-dance-o.gif

[Guapo]

The Ghosts of Medak pocket-



This is the story of brave men of Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry (2PPCLI) who put their lives on the line to protect Serbian civilians of Medak Pocket from Croat ethnic cleansing and whose noble cause and valiant actions were kept under wraps under the general pressure of anti-Serbian policy.


The soldiers came home haunted by these atrocities, but in the wake of the Somalia affair, Canada had no time for soldiers' stories of the horrific compromises of battle — the peacekeepers were silenced. In time, the dark secrets of Medak's horrors drove many of these soldiers to despair, to homelessness and even suicide.






http://youtu.be/6-AvcKJnx9I

[Methmatician]

http://www.srpska-mreza.com/Bosnia/Sarajevo/mark1-news.html

Srpska Mreza isn't a reliable source.

[RandoBloom]

Lol Montenegrins shelled Dubrovnik and Bosniak army shelled their own civilians in Sarajevo

http://www.srpska-mreza.com/Bosnia/Sarajevo/mark1-news.html






http://elections.thinkaboutit.eu/2009/07/srebrenica-again-hoax-or-massacre/



http://www.antiwar.com/orig/jatras8.html



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markale_massacres

Your own people killed innocent muslim civilians to win sympathy? sick

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view3/4762255/shaq-s-dance-o.gif

"srpska mreza" is your source? No wonder you people are retarded anti-social humanoid beings

[Gorštak]

Vukovar, it's Croats version of Alamo and Thermopylae

Vukovar was defended by around 1,800 lightly armed soldiers of the Croatian National Guard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatian_National_Guard) (ZNG) and civilian volunteers, against 36,000 JNA soldiers and Serbian paramilitaries equipped with heavy armour and artillery. During the battle, shells and rockets were fired into the town at a rate of up to 12,000 a day.[7] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Vukovar#cite_note-Horton132-7) At the time it was the fiercest and most protracted battle in Europe since 1945
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Vukovar

http://www.vijesti.me/data/slika/9/83750.jpg
http://www.mojevijesti.ba/slike/novosti/AAA%20MOJE%20VIJESTI/REGION/Hrvatska/vukovar-rusevine.jpg
http://www.matica.hr/Vijenac/vijenac395.nsf/0/59918ac5f8c3d306c12575a2002f67e7/$FILE/STG42587/STG42587.gif?OpenElement
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/74610_137377259654410_6128913_n.jpg

http://forum.net.hr/cfs-filesystemfile.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Components.ImageFileViewer/CommunityServer.Discussions.Components.Files.11/8875.vukovar111.jpg_2D00_550x0.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/68095_137374486321354_2444638_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/164850_137374592988010_7247294_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/165703_137374796321323_2392112_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/34799_137374909654645_5408810_n.jpg
http://www.palotinci.hr/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Vukovar.jpg

And of course, after they finally take Vukovar, what Serbs did?
They took people out of the hospital, mistreated and killed them, typical Serbs way.

When the Serb forces took control of Vukovar on 19 November 1991, several hundred people took refuge in the town's hospital in the hope that they would be evacuated in the presence of neutral observers.

A deal to that effect had earlier been agreed in negotiations between the Yugoslav army and the Croatian government.








But instead of the hoped-for evacuation, about 400 individuals - including wounded patients, soldiers, hospital staff and Croatian political activists - were removed from the hospital by Yugoslav army and Serb paramilitary forces.

According to The Hague Tribunal's indictment, which was originally issued in 1995, three Yugoslav army officers, Colonel Mile Mrksic, Major Veselin Sljivancanin and Captain Miroslav Radic, oversaw the removal of some 300 men to Ovcara farm, four kilometres outside Vukovar.
The detainees were beaten up. Some died of their injuries and approximately 260 of them were executed and then buried in a mass grave.http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/2988304.stm



But in the end, good again won over evil.

[Guapo]

"srpska mreza" is your source? No wonder you people are retarded anti-social humanoid beings

what about the other sources you bipolar schizo mentalcase, you come to this forum attacking serbs when outsiders dont give a fuck what you have to say same goes for that pink swan.

[Gorštak]

Nice ceremony today
http://www.index.hr/images3/964d9c5f-71cd-4b92-ae8e-06e07ad31e4b.jpg
http://www.index.hr/images3/408d9159-c044-4b36-8e84-4120d7bbd1ab.jpg
http://www.index.hr/images3/de4b80bf-c65b-4d94-94ff-e2ed81b926ee.jpg
http://www.index.hr/images3/39b13688-f0bc-4571-a115-b701930bb660.jpg
http://www.index.hr/images3/c79e16cf-c1b9-47d3-b76e-f452404cd4bf.jpg
http://www.index.hr/images3/12bbf8f0-ad61-4f59-87cb-7912d0126465.jpg

[Sisak]

I am not happy because we have a crazy politicians.

[Gorštak]

I am not happy because we have a crazy politicians.

Without this operation, Croats would have big part of state controled by Serbs who would block everything good for Croatia, just like we have it in Bosnia. You would not be part of NATO and EU.

[Methmatician]

You would not be part of NATO and EU.

That's the downside to this operation ;)

[Sisak]

I don't care about Sarajevo and Dubrovnik, we're discussing Knin and Krajina in August 1995.

Now tell me, are Serbs fools for leaving shelled cities? Are Serbs fools for leaving in front of the army that killed over 200 remaining civilians?(Croatian claim)

Or you think that shelling of Dubrovnik justifies crimes done in Storm? If you do, we have nothing to discuss.

Koliki je broj Srba sto je protjeran prema vama?

[RandoBloom]

Koliki je broj Srba sto je protjeran prema vama?

Ono sto zivi na kosovu je vecinom iz hrvatske. Ima ih i u Bosni stotinjak hiljada.
Uostalom kome je bitno koliko je zlocinaca napustilo zemlju koju su izdali? Bitno je da su sami sebi presudili.

[RandoBloom]

what about the other sources you bipolar schizo mentalcase, you come to this forum attacking serbs when outsiders dont give a fuck what you have to say same goes for that pink swan.

As I said, your mental incapacity is evident by the sources you use

[Philo]

Ethnic cleansing? NO ONE FORCED THE SERBS TO LEAVE, their government scared them all to death with propaganda.If anyone was responsible its the serbs themselves with their stories of Serb children being thrown to lions at the zoo, and other bullshit.

Hear hear, the double standard is appalling..
Sad loss for the Serbs, on topic.

[Lucifer]

i don't see why you opened this thread black swan, it's croat and serb business, at the end they'll reconciliate and look upon bosnia ;)

[RandoBloom]

Hear hear, the double standard is appalling..
Sad loss for the Serbs, on topic.

Double standards? Serbs werent forced out, raped and killed. What is double standarded there?

[RandoBloom]

i don't see why you opened this thread black swan, it's croat and serb business, at the end they'll reconciliate and look upon bosnia ;)

They look at it all the time.