Antisexualism

[PeasantAndWorker]

I agree with this:


While a proponent of antisexualism, he has become one of the founders of the International Antisexual Movement (IAM). The IAM is consciously and purposely orientated on liquidating the sexual relations throughout the world. It was Yuri Nesterenko who established the first Antisexual Society in Russia (1995) Since then, he has taken a leading role in the IAM. The main venue of the society is the “Anti-sexual Stronghold” website created by Nesterenko. The group accepts the minimum amount of sexual activity necessary to maintain population, but the founder hasn’t updated it in quite awhile.

Far from being a religious bigot, Nesterenko is an atheist and does not speak in the name of religious belief in the supernatural virtue of chastity. He aspires to base his antisexualism on rational arguments rather than authoritarian, theistic thinking. According to him, sexual drive is tantamount to drug addiction because a common addictive element is present in the two behaviours, the only difference being in the formation of psychoactive substances within an addict’s organism itself. Nesterenko calls upon every man to make use of his own reason and to see that it is necessary to reject sexual relations. Any sex other than that strictly for reproduction places animal passions over the development of the highest powers man possesses. That is why Nesterenko opposes it. He is not opposed to all emotions. There is nothing bad in feeling satisfaction by a well-done job, artwork, intellectual communication. But emotions that originate in primitive instincts and fog the mind really must not exist.

Yu. L. Nesterenko’s attitude to David Jay presents special interest. His own ideas had already been formed in the main when AVEN's website was launched in 2002. On the whole he highly appreciates Jay’s work, ascribing to him the credit of having set forth with the idea that sexual indifference is not in need of medical treatment. Later, however, there began to be serious disagreements. Nesterenko’s stance is, first of all, much more radical than Jay’s. When comparing the IAM and asexual people, Russian journalists give particular emphasis to the difference that the ideological position of the IAM’s leader is militantly antisexual. Nesterenko not only considers asexuality a normal state, but also condemns all the forms of hedonistic sexual activity. In contrast to a conciliatory character of AVEN’s attitude to the LGBT community, Nesterenko’s efforts as an antisexual ideologist are not directed to looking for a fourth way between the three sexual orientations, viz., heterosexuality, homosexuality, and bisexuality. He stresses in every way possible that the IAM is not a new variety of sexual minorities just as anti-fascists do not constitute a particular stream in fascism. When asked the question "But you’re a minority, aren’t you?" Nesterenko said: "If we take a psychiatric hospital, we find that medical staff is a minority there, too."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuri_Leonidovich_Nesterenko#Views_on_human_sexuali ty

[Swearengen]

What a tool.

Celibacy could actually halt progress. Sex/romance is a prime motivator for almost everyone. It isn't merely a distraction.

[Loki]

[FONT=Tahoma]I agree with this:


I think only men with low testosterone levels could become asexual. Sexuality is a part of your makeup, it's not something you can just switch off. Just ask those Catholic priests ...

[armenianbodyhair]

I stopped reading at "sex drive is tantamount to drug addiction". He says his arguments are supposed to be based on rational thinking but that is so full of straw it really can't be taken seriously.

[CordedWhelp]

Interesting all the latest propaganda going out there that are, in the end, justifications for eugenics. There's a lie to try to convince everybody...it's just a matter of styling it to appeal to the "low-brow", or the "high-brow"...

[Cleitus]

Sex is good between a married couple.

[Swearengen]

I stopped reading at "sex drive is tantamount to drug addiction". He says his arguments are supposed to be based on rational thinking but that is so full of straw it really can't be taken seriously.

I suppose that the will to live could also be considered an addiction.

Hunger? Addiction.

[CrystalMaiden]

This is why the Western world is dying...

[PeasantAndWorker]

I think only men with low testosterone levels could become asexual. Sexuality is a part of your makeup, it's not something you can just switch off. Just ask those Catholic priests ...

That's what I'm trying to do.

[CrystalMaiden]

That's what I'm trying to do.

It is impossible.

I think you would be an amazing contribution here. (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?80544-Beta-Thread-Beta-Thread!!!)

[Humanophage]

I don't think there is anything particularly unrealistic about limiting your sex drive, and redirecting your energy to other pursuits. Many notable men were not interested in sexual pursuits.

However, this shouldn't get in the way of leaving progeny, which was a problem with the aforementioned men.


I suppose that the will to live could also be considered an addiction.

Hunger? Addiction.
You can't survive without food; you can easily survive and prosper without sex. It is an exercise of will. If it were possible to denounce or severely limit food consumption with beneficial effects, it would be a good idea.

[armenianbodyhair]

I suppose that the will to live could also be considered an addiction.

Hunger? Addiction.
Please help me I am very addicted to air and water, if I don't have enough of either I think I might die.

I don't think there is anything particularly unrealistic about limiting your sex drive, and redirecting your energy to other pursuits. Many notable men were not interested in sexual pursuits.

However, this shouldn't get in the way of leaving progeny, which was a problem with the aforementioned men.


You can't survive without food; you can easily survive and prosper without sex. It is an exercise of will. If it were possible to denounce or severely limit food consumption with beneficial effects, it would be a good idea.
But humanity can't.

[Humanophage]

Please help me I am very addicted to air and water, if I don't have enough of either I think I might die.
If sex is as important to a person as air and water, there is something very wrong with them.


But humanity can't.
Firstly, humanity can't survive without procreation; it can survive without gratuitous sex. Secondly, the average human has a two-digit IQ; there is no wonder he cannot control anything in his life. Thirdly, an individual isn't humanity - there will always be plenty of octomoms to make up for any Newton.

[armenianbodyhair]

If sex is as important to a person as air and water, there is something very wrong with them.


Firstly, humanity can't survive without procreation, it can survive without gratuitous sex. Secondly, the average human has a two-digit IQ; there is no wonder he cannot control anything in his life.
The human brain is possibly the most developed living thing anywhere in the universe, so maybe someone with a 2 digit IQ isn't so smart by human standards but is still one of the most intelligent things in existence, they should be able to control a significant amount of their life.

[littlestar]

I think only men with low testosterone levels could become asexual. Sexuality is a part of your makeup, it's not something you can just switch off. Just ask those Catholic priests ...

Not at all, low testosterone in adulthood is not strongly linked to sexual preference as it doesn't change your brain's chemical pathways in ways that would affect your ability to feel attraction. What determines one's psychosexual development is exposure to hormone levels before birth(in-uterine). Sexual preference is fixed at birth.


Now a research team has found that the way a brain functions (http://news.softpedia.com/news/Low-In-Utero-Testosterone-Levels-Determine-Homosexual-Behavior-in-Males-52005.shtml), whether womanish or mannish, depends on the womb exposure to sex hormones, a discovery that could explain differences in neuropsychological disorders in men and women,

The story of David Reimer illustrates a very compelling point: He was born a healthy boy under presumably normal in-uterine hormone levels but his penis was damaged during circumcision as a baby so his parents were instructed to raise him as a female. He was castrated and given oestrogen injections during puberty to aid in the feminization. He couldn’t adjust to life as girl, which just further proves that one’s biology is inescapable.


The story of a boy who was raised as a girl seems to show that gender really is all in the genes. Despite the efforts of psychiatrists, surgeons and parents, he never felt happy as a girl and eventually reverted to being a man, got married and is now living happily. [...]
Despite being raised as a girl, Joan never felt happy. At 12, she was given oestrogen therapy to complete the conversion to a woman. She grew breasts, but was never accepted by other girls, nor felt comfortable as a woman. [...]Dr Diamond says that the case history has implications for any child born with ambiguous sexuality. "Keep your knife away," he says. "Let the kids make a decision when they get older."

Michael Bailey, a psychologist at Northwestern University, Illinois, told Science Now, a daily science news service run by Science magazine, that the case was heralded by many as the pinnacle of proof that psycho-social factors could override biological factors in determining gender.

Textbooks continued to claim that Joan made a successful adjustment, in spite of contradictory evidence. Dr Diamond's report, says Dr Bailey, "suggests that, if anything, how you're reared matters little (http://www.flyfishingdevon.co.uk/salmon/year1/psy128psychosexual_differentiation/sexdiff.htm#penis_damage)".

[PeasantAndWorker]

I've actually turned down opportunities of sex before. The feeling of power and control is far better to me than orgasm. I want to go through life with a perfect score—if I had sex I'd feel like I didn't complete all the quests in Fallout. 100% completion for me means celibacy. I consider sex primitive animal behaviour: animals roll around in dirt so should I do that as well? I simply think rubbing the things we use to piss with against each other is gross and strange. I've even thought about castration—the ideal for me is not having genital organs because they're dirty.

[armenianbodyhair]

I've actually turned down opportunities of sex before. The feeling of power and control is far better to me than orgasm.
You won't actually know that unless you try.

I consider sex primitive animal behaviour: animals roll around in dirt so should I do that as well?
Humans are animals...

[littlestar]

i've actually turned down opportunities of sex before. The feeling of power and control is far better to me than orgasm. I want to go through life with a perfect score—if i had sex i'd feel like i didn't complete all the quests in fallout. 100% completion for me means celibacy. I consider sex primitive animal behaviour: Animals roll around in dirt so should i do that as well? I simply think rubbing the things we use to piss with against each other is gross and strange. I've even thought about castration—the ideal for me is not having genital organs because they're dirty.

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[Lusos]

Antisexualism = The Wife.

[Wadaad]

What next? Anti-eating, satisfying your hunger tantamount to drug addiction....

[PeasantAndWorker]

You won't actually know that unless you try.

Humans are animals...

Humans are different from other animals. The three things that make us different according to Kim Il-sung are: chajusong, creativity, and consciousness.

In Half Life, Dr Breen says instinct is the enemy of humanity and that the urge to reproduce is the most basest and primitive instinct and I agree.


What next? Anti-eating, satisfying your hunger tantamount to drug addiction....

I support fasting.

[armenianbodyhair]

Humans are different from other animals. The three things that make us different according to Kim Il-sung are: chajusong, creativity, and consciousness.

In Half Life, Dr Breen says instinct is the enemy of humanity and that the urge to reproduce is the most basest and primitive instinct and I agree.



I support fasting.
Do you have a source that is not from a crazy dictator?

Also instinct is what is responsible for saving our lives many times.

[PeasantAndWorker]

Sex reduces man to mere function and object. Only through celibacy can man reclaim his dignity and humanity. It's a step to becoming like a God.

[Wadaad]

Sex reduces man to mere function and object. Only through celibacy can man reclaim his dignity and humanity. It's a step to becoming like a God.

Celibacy is decadent and unnatural...if sex reduces you to a mere object, then cut off your sex organs, since their presence should be an affront to your desire to reclaim your dignity.

[Cleitus]

You have mental disabilities.

[PeasantAndWorker]

I support people who cut off their genital organs. I think people who deny basic human instincts like sex or empathy are superior.

[MissProvocateur]

Denying basic human instincts does not make you superior, only a bit more pretentious. Sorry to burst your bubble, but being a virgin or having a low sex drive doesn't make you any better than a horn dog in my book, intelligence isn't strictly correlated with sex drive, despite the fact that sometimes sex may cloud one person's judgment, it doesn't necessarily decrease their intelligence. Sex has been proven to give a lot of health benefits (Physical AND mental included) do your research. And having no empathy makes you inferior in my opinion, our emotions and ability to detect other people's emotions is what makes us human, you know what creatures are usually unable to detect another's emotions? Animals. Empathy makes someone become helpful to those around them, so unless you think being a sociopath makes you superior, I doubt apathy is a good quality.

[Fortis in Arduis]

I support people who cut off their genital organs. I think people who deny basic human instincts like sex or empathy are superior.

Oh get real. Practising sexual continence and/or celibacy for the pursuit of a higher ideal such as altruism or spiritual service is one thing, the cutting off genitals of denying empathy is like saying, "I want to be a psychopath."

You are presenting a bad example for socialism.

[Wadaad]

I support people who cut off their genital organs. I think people who deny basic human instincts like sex or empathy are superior.

gotta be trolling...if not, good luck with that

[PeasantAndWorker]

Oh get real. Practising sexual continence and/or celibacy for the pursuit of a higher ideal such as altruism or spiritual service is one thing, the cutting off genitals of denying empathy is like saying, "I want to be a psychopath."

You are presenting a bad example for socialism.

Celibacy for me is about being in control and is strictly materialist and from a socialist perspective. Psychopaths are often intelligent. For instance, though Richard Ramirez got the nickname "night stalker" he wasn't as skillful as the Original Night Stalker (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_Night_Stalker).

[Loki]

I support fasting fapping.

fix'd

[MissProvocateur]

Celibacy for me is about being in control and is strictly materialist and from a socialist perspective. Psychopaths are often intelligent. For instance, though Richard Ramirez got the nickname "night stalker" he wasn't as skillful as the Original Night Stalker (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_Night_Stalker).

Psychopaths have never, or almost never contributed anything to the world. They shouldn't be praised. Besides, psychopaths have absolutely no emotional intelligence or empathy, making them no better than animals. And yes, there is such a thing as emotional intelligence. A person cannot help humanity if they are completely incapable of understanding it.

[PeasantAndWorker]

Psychopaths need to channel their skills into economics. I believe socialism is the way forward for humanity and all of my interests such as horrorcore, celibacy, and being pro-life, are compatible with socialism.

Obviously, killing should be a crime but we need their skills and need to understand them. Truth can be gained through confusion and contradiction.

[Loki]

I believe socialism is the way forward for humanity

Agreed on that one :)

[armenianbodyhair]

Agreed on that one :)
The only thing worse than mixing sports and politics is mixing sex and politics.

[Not a Cop]

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The only thing worse than mixing sports and politics is mixing sex and politics.

It has always been mixed, since the leader of tride always get the best pussy

[Swearengen]

You can't survive without food; you can easily survive and prosper without sex. It is an exercise of will. If it were possible to denounce or severely limit food consumption with beneficial effects, it would be a good idea.

Starving yourself would also be an exercise of will and would be overcoming your most primal instinct. Living has about as much objective purpose as having sex does.

[mr. logan]

Get your balls cut off and you will live happily ever after.

[Humanophage]

Starving yourself would also be an exercise of will and would be overcoming your most primal instinct. Living has about as much objective purpose as having sex does.
Yes, like I said, it would be good as an exercise, except that it would damage you in immediate and obvious ways. In fact, if you entirely abstain from food, you will die in a matter of two or three weeks.

Will anything like that happen to you if you abstain from sex? No.

History knows plenty of examples of seemingly asexual notable people who were not distracted by sex. While human life has no objective purpose, in human terms people are unequal. Here is a good way to improve your energy and clarity, get rid of a distraction, and free up your time.

It is amusing when people, especially from stereotypically "lascivious" and unsuccessful ethnic groups, compare sex to food. The degree to which many people are concerned about sex at anthro boards is sometimes obnoxious. Any classification thread about a woman becomes a discussion of her looks. There are male users with half-naked women on their avatars. Sex is, after all, like food to them. They start feeling dizzy if they haven't ejaculated for a couple of days, and then they die in horrible pain.

[Swearengen]

Guys like Newton weren't great because of their celibacy. Rather, people with an IQ of 180 or whatever are on a completely different wave length than normal people and might not have much desire for sex. Or could be incapable of having a romantic relationship.

Your comments about improvement and whatnot are entirely subjective. Most people couldn't care less about making a scientific discovery and just want to enjoy life.

[Lusos]

Anti-Sexism is a bit heavy.But I do think Sex should be intimate.
I don't agree that People shag anyone just after a night out,then on the next weekend they shag someone else and so on.
I think the problem is that People(Especially the youth)don't care about values and moral.
Also Women a few Years ago, saw their body as "Sacred"now most when out partying behave like sluts,they go out looking for dick.
Obviously Men are easy,and we always have been.
It's the Women that changed.Lost the pride In themselves. For them Is backwards when a Woman says to the Men "You're my first".

[Swearengen]

Anti-Sexism is a bit heavy.But I do think Sex should be intimate.
I don't agree that People shag anyone just after a night out,then on the next weekend they shag someone else and so on.
I think the problem is that People(Especially the youth)don't care about values and moral.
Also Women a few Years ago, saw their body as "Sacred"now most when out partying behave like sluts,they go out looking for dick.
Obviously Men are easy,and we always have been.
It's the Women that changed.Lost the pride In themselves. For them Is backwards when a Woman says to the Men "You're my first".

or maybe they just don't view it as immoral.

[Lusos]

or maybe they just don't view it as immoral.

"Quote Originally Posted by Lusos View Post
Anti-Sexism is a bit heavy.But I do think Sex should be intimate.
I don't agree that People shag anyone just after a night out,then on the next weekend they shag someone else and so on.
I think the problem is that People(Especially the youth)don't care about values and moral.
Also Women a few Years ago, saw their body as "Sacred"now most when out partying behave like sluts,they go out looking for dick.
Obviously Men are easy,and we always have been.
It's the Women that changed.Lost the pride In themselves. For them Is backwards when a Woman says to the Men "You're my first".

Thank you for your insight.

[Swearengen]

"Quote Originally Posted by Lusos View Post
Anti-Sexism is a bit heavy.But I do think Sex should be intimate.
I don't agree that People shag anyone just after a night out,then on the next weekend they shag someone else and so on.
I think the problem is that People(Especially the youth)don't care about values and moral.
Also Women a few Years ago, saw their body as "Sacred"now most when out partying behave like sluts,they go out looking for dick.
Obviously Men are easy,and we always have been.
It's the Women that changed.Lost the pride In themselves. For them Is backwards when a Woman says to the Men "You're my first".

Thank you for your insight.

You said that they don't care about morals. I said that they don't view it as a bad thing. And it isn't.

[Lusos]

It Is for me.A young Women that when marries someone already shaged tens of Men Its Immoral.
You never noticed the decadence In night Clubs.Young Women laying on the floor drunk,half naked with some random bloke whit his hands all over her.

[Swearengen]

With birth control I don't understand how it can be seen as immoral.

[Lusos]

With birth control I don't understand how it can be seen as immoral.


Would you want to Marry a Women that had lot's of Men In her past?

[Swearengen]

no, but that's my own issue and doesn't make it immoral.

[Lusos]

^
If It's not Immoral,why wouldn't you Marry such Women?

[Swearengen]

Because i'd only marry the female version of myself who wouldn't form frequent relationships.

someone who does what you're saying is definitely a certain type of woman, but not necessarily a bad person.

[Corvus]

Sex is overrated anyway. Does it require certain skills - No because even most primitive people can do it. Its not really a challenge.
I am not asexual by any means but I would look for more in relationship than sex which means a woman on my side has to offer me more than only sex.

[Loki]

^
If It's not Immoral,why wouldn't you Marry such Women?

Why not? Sex is not immoral, it's natural. Religion has brainwashed our thinking for too long.

[Loki]

Will anything like that happen to you if you abstain from sex? No.



You might get testicular cancer.

[Lusos]

Because i'd only marry the female version of myself who wouldn't form frequent relationships.

someone who does what you're saying is definitely a certain type of woman, but not necessarily a bad person.


I understand.Because you see It as Immoral,and you don't want that passed on to your Children.

[Lusos]

Why not? Sex is not immoral, it's natural. Religion has brainwashed our thinking for too long.

Not Sex Loki.
But random Sex.I see It as a sign of decadence In our Society.
Women no longer have respect for their Body.(Generalising)

[Corvus]

Not Sex Loki.
But random Sex.I see It as a sign of decadence In our Society.
Women no longer have respect for their Body.(Generalising)

I agree, if you have sex with a woman you really love not only physically it can be a wonderful thing,
if you just have sex with a random woman to satisfy your need it is much more likely you will regret it later

[Humanophage]

Guys like Newton weren't great because of their celibacy. Rather, people with an IQ of 180 or whatever are on a completely different wave length than normal people and might not have much desire for sex. Or could be incapable of having a romantic relationship.

Your comments about improvement and whatnot are entirely subjective. Most people couldn't care less about making a scientific discovery and just want to enjoy life.
Yes, many people are of below average intelligence and have no desire to improve themselves or control their primitive desires. It was addressed on page 2 of this thread.

Not placing so much emphasis on sex as to think that no sex = no food is merely a way to free up time, concentration, and energy. Not everyone wants that, and there are more distracting things out there than sex.

My beef is mainly with the silly statement that sex is as tantamount to life as sleep, food, water, etc.

[Loki]

Not Sex Loki.
But random Sex.I see It as a sign of decadence In our Society.
Women no longer have respect for their Body.(Generalising)

I don't understand this point of view. Why do women supposedly no longer have respect for their body? I see it as the opposite. Women who consider sex as something dirty, evil, sinful or unnatural don't have respect for their bodies.

[Loki]

I agree, if you have sex with a woman you really love not only physically it can be a wonderful thing,
if you just have sex with a random woman to satisfy your need it is much more likely you will regret it later

Why regret? :)

[Corvus]

Why regret? :)

Happened to me once, had sex with an average girl, did not really give me a kick

[Lusos]

I don't understand this point of view. Why do women supposedly no longer have respect for their body? I see it as the opposite. Women who consider sex as something dirty, evil, sinful or unnatural don't have respect for their bodies.

I was my Wife's first Men.And she does not think that about Sex.But Sex with a random guy to be dirty.
The reason she never had Sex before me,his that she never found someone that she felt worthy of her(Body included).
But we don't think is Sinful or unnatural.
We are Roman Catholics by tradition,Atheists by belief.

[Loki]

Happened to me once, had sex with an average girl, did not really give me a kick

No reason for regrets. Maybe the chemistry wasn't sufficient between the two of you. Second time lucky, maybe :)

[Lusos]

Happened to me once, had sex with an average girl, did not really give me a kick

With me,I couldn't even look at their face once the "Job" was finished.

It didn't happened all the times though.

[Loki]

We are Roman Catholics by tradition

That explains it, I'm afraid. Catholicism has a warped view on human sexuality. No wonder so many priests engage in hideous acts.

[Loki]

With me,I couldn't even look at their face once the "Job" was finished.


Why not? :confused:

[Corvus]

That explains it, I'm afraid. Catholicism has a warped view on human sexuality. No wonder so many priests engage in hideous acts.

I was also educated Catholic and you are right. Sex has always been a kind of taboo issue in my social environment

[Lusos]

That explains it, I'm afraid. Catholicism has a warped view on human sexuality. No wonder so many priests engage in hideous acts.

Nothing to do with Religion.I was never Religious.I don't belief in God(Any).

[Fortis in Arduis]

Sex is draining and exhausting for men. There is nothing wrong and everything right with saying, "Look, I just want to take a break and converse my strength for things that really matter, like building my life, or maybe having children when the time is right."

People are being over-sexualised by the advertising men and the media, even children now. I was in an intimate relationship and we agreed to be celibate in order to help each other and the relationship to develop in other ways. I was really lucky to have a partner who respected that and did not demand sexual relations from me.

[Lusos]

Why not? :confused:

Good question.
But I never felt like that with my Wife.
Maybe the lack of love for them.I never actually thought about that.

[Fortis in Arduis]

Sex is draining and exhausting for men. There is nothing wrong and everything right with saying, "Look, I just want to take a break and converse my strength for things that really matter, like building my life, or maybe having children when the time is right."

People are being over-sexualised by the advertising men and the media, even children now. I was in an intimate relationship and we agreed to be celibate in order to help each other and the relationship to develop in other ways. I was really lucky to have a partner who respected that and did not demand sexual relations from me.

[Loki]

Sex is draining and exhausting for men.

= Good exercise :)

Very healthy for the body and soul.

[Loki]

Nothing to do with Religion.I was never Religious.I don't belief in God(Any).

I know, but you grew up in Catholic culture. It's subconscious.

[Lusos]

Sex is draining and exhausting for men. There is nothing wrong and everything right with saying, "Look, I just want to take a break and converse my strength for things that really matter, like building my life, or maybe having children when the time is right."

People are being over-sexualised by the advertising men and the media, even children now. I was in an intimate relationship and we agreed to be celibate in order to help each other and the relationship to develop in other ways. I was really lucky to have a partner who respected that and did not demand sexual relations from me.


I get your point.But I believe that Sex In a couple is important to strengthen the relation.
The intimacy In bedroom is important.
In fact due to the Hormones,Women can be more "Needy" than Men.And go "out of control" quicker.

[Sarmatian]

The OP seems to be one of those guys who think they can consciously control everything in their life which makes them superior and/or more advanced than average person. He has lost the basic sense of life in his own web of logical conclusions.

One of the most important abilities of our brain is to forget information. It helps us to avoid overload and mental exhaustion. Consequently instinctive and subconscious decision-making is one of the most invaluable abilities we posses and it have to be cared for and developed to ensure happy and lasting live. It's impossible to control everything and everyone, you have to relax your senses and let it go.

Avoiding sex for OP is just an excuse to avoid having people too close in his life as it may ruin his illusion of total control.

[Not a Cop]

I know, but you grew up in Catholic culture. It's subconscious.

Protestants have another view on sex?

[PeasantAndWorker]

Here's the thing: men who have sex with women are "gay" in the true sense of the word. They are submissive and servile because they seek to impress women and will degrade themselves and spend loads of money just to squirt some jizz. I consider myself a faggot because I don't have to impress women but a celibate because I don't have to impress anybody.

[Loki]

Protestants have another view on sex?

I reckon, yes. But not all.

[Loki]

Here's the thing: men who have sex with women are "gay" in the true sense of the word. They are submissive and servile because they seek to impress women and will degrade themselves and spend loads of money just to squirt some jizz. I consider myself a faggot because I don't have to impress women but a celibate because I don't have to impress anybody.

:picard1:

I'm not trying to impress anyone either, yet I have a girl. It's got to do with mutual attraction, and if you're in a good relationship you no longer feel you have to impress your other half.

Obviously you have no idea what I'm talking about.

[Cleitus]

You have seriously mental problems like all Marxists.

[Loki]

You have seriously mental problems like all Marxists.

Don't insult all Marxists, I like some of their ideas. :)

[Cleitus]

Without sex you wouldn't live moron.

[PeasantAndWorker]

Without sex you wouldn't live moron.

I isn't opposed to sex for procreation. By the way, though, even a virgin can become pregnant simply by injecting the sperm into the egg.

[Cleitus]

Marxism is the destroyer of love, natural harmony, Family and people.

[Sarmatian]

Here's the thing: men who have sex with women are "gay" in the true sense of the word. They are submissive and servile because they seek to impress women and will degrade themselves and spend loads of money just to squirt some jizz. I consider myself a faggot because I don't have to impress women but a celibate because I don't have to impress anybody.

:picard2:

Where is Mary when you need her? I want Mary on his virgin ass... see what he's going to say after :laugh:

[PeasantAndWorker]

Marxism is the destroyer of love, natural harmony, Family and people.

True love can only exist in a socialist society free of exploitation and commodity fetishism.

[Fortis in Arduis]

I get your point.But I believe that Sex In a couple is important to strengthen the relation.
The intimacy In bedroom is important.
In fact due to the Hormones,Women can be more "Needy" than Men.And go "out of control" quicker.

One can be intimate in the bedroom without sex, but there is another option which is truly sex-ercise; that is tantric sex, where the man does not have to lose semen and thus exhaust himself and his life energies.

There is a reason why the orgasm in known as "le petit mort" in French. For the man it constitutes a small death, a dissolution.

[MissProvocateur]

Sex is draining and exhausting for men.

Depends on the position, really.

[Loki]

where the man does not have to lose semen and thus exhaust himself and his life energies.


:picard2: :lol:

[Loki]

Depends on the position, really.

I think it only depends on the fitness of the man involved.

[MissProvocateur]

I isn't opposed to sex for procreation. By the way, though, even a virgin can become pregnant simply by injecting the sperm into the egg.

Sex for procreation? You do realize that only humans, dolphons, and bonobos, right? Sex for procreation is just as animalsitic as anything else. Sex isn't something addictive that drains you, and if it does, you have a terrible sex life or some sort of problem. Sex has been shown to give a lot of health benefits, you're no better than the guy who had sex with dozens of women, you have no reason to be. It doesn't make you superior.

[MissProvocateur]

I think it only depends on the fitness of the man involved.

That too. But there are cases the woman does all the work. I'm sure Mary knows a lot about this subject.

[Lusos]

One can be intimate in the bedroom without sex, but there is another option which is truly sex-ercise; that is tantric sex, where the man does not have to lose semen and thus exhaust himself and his life energies.

There is a reason why the orgasm in known as "le petit mort" in French. For the man it constitutes a small death, a dissolution.

I cannot be intimate in the bedroom without Sex.Bedroom for me Is to sleep and to the art love making.
It's not a lost (Sperm).It's renewing the Vitamin.
The French are .......French.

It kinda surprises me that you think that way.Being a Brit.

[Fortis in Arduis]

Depends on the position, really.

The man adopts the exhausted sleeping position after losing semen, irrespective of what might have happened prior to that event. Ever wondered why?


I cannot be intimate in the bedroom without Sex.Bedroom for me Is to sleep and to the art love making.
It's not a lost (Sperm).It's renewing the Vitamin.
The French are .......French.

It kinda surprises me that you think that way.Being a Brit.

I know that sex, and the orgasm, is an intense bonding experience, but why do you insist upon sex as a condition of intimacy in the bedroom?

Are you fixated upon orgasm and having that taste of cosmic consciousness?

How would you expect a Brit to think?

[Loki]

The man adopts the exhausted sleeping position after losing semen, irrespective of what might have happened prior to that event. Ever wondered why?

Well, all exercise is exhausting - that's the reason why we become fit with repetition. To say sex makes a man tired is almost like saying sport makes an athlete tired. Irrelevant.

[PeasantAndWorker]

Post-ejaculatory fatigue is a real phenomenon. Semen is the life force and seminal fluid loss is like blood loss. The sensation of ejaculating, to me, is like that of bleeding.

[Fortis in Arduis]

Well, all exercise is exhausting - that's the reason why we become fit with repetition. To say sex makes a man tired is almost like saying sport makes an athlete tired. Irrelevant.

When a man is having sex, his body goes into peak performance and he can maintain that until he ejaculates. This can be used to his best advantage.

Why not try having sex without ejaculation, for as long as you possibly can, for the sake of exploration and exercise?

You might find it refreshing, rather than exhausting. You could also take little breaks, and start again and keep doing this for hours on end.

I would say that ejaculation is exhausting for men, just as performance sports can end up crippling athletes, so what you have said is perfectly relevant.

In essence: if a "quickie" is much less satisfying than a long hot sex session, then tantric sex should provide greater, even ultimate satisfaction.

[Loki]

When a man is having sex, his body goes into peak performance and he can maintain that until he ejaculates. This can be used to his best advantage.

Why not try having sex without ejaculation, for as long as you possibly can, for the sake of exploration and exercise?

You might find it refreshing, rather than exhausting. You could also take little breaks, and start again and keep doing this for hours on end.

I would say that ejaculation is exhausting for men, just as performance sports can end up crippling athletes, so what you have said is perfectly relevant.

In essence: if a "quickie" is much less satisfying than a long hot sex session, then tantric sex should provide greater, even ultimate satisfaction.

No, thank you. Ejaculation is healthy and essential for the body. As is orgasm. And you can't fully enjoy sex without orgasm. Ridiculous.

[alfieb]

A world without sex would be terrible.

It would be almost like being forced to be married. :lol:

Even priests do it.

[Sarmatian]

True love can only exist in a socialist society free of exploitation and commodity fetishism.

How can you talk about such thing as 'true love' when you've never looked into eyes of a woman a moments after you gave her orgasm? You're naive and confused boy when it comes to matters of love and sex.

[Hàkon]

It is very often that we ascribe prominent figures attributes that mostly are based on what simply cannot be seen over their respective accomplishments and/or our subjective notions of what lead these persons to achieve what they did.
That is to say, when there is a lack of comments on the specific subject by the persons in question.

Keep in mind that the lack of a known offspring should not be interpreted as asexuality; but, of course, does not rule it out either.

Forming images, however inaccurate, is inevitable, as trying to understand is very much the epitome of human nature; through these self-created ideas of other people, we, generally, find some kind of knowledge that we in turn (try to) learn from.

This is what I think have happened which lead to the making of this thread, and quite frankly I do not see such a great difference between this type of (rather) mindless thinking and the act of consuming another creature's flesh in order to gain its mythical abilities.

Although imitating "better" and more accomplished people usually is quite a wise thing to do; forming one's life partly, if not mostly, based on speculations regarding what some outstanding people did is plainly ridiculous.

Though, I understand that there could be a little more to this decision than the act of aping.

[Corvus]

No, thank you. Ejaculation is healthy and essential for the body. As is orgasm. And you can't fully enjoy sex without orgasm. Ridiculous.

It is healthy even though in German its also called : "Der kleine Tod" which means small dead literally translated

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[Fortis in Arduis]

It is healthy even though in German its also called : "Der kleine Tod" which means small dead literally translated

http://data6.blog.de/media/686/5350686_df524a0130_m.jpeg

What I have described is understood by and for the very few.

I am not a practitioner of tantric sex, but of abstinence, with the same ends in mind.

[Corvus]

What I have described is understood by and for the very few.

I am not a practitioner of tantric sex, but of abstinence, with the same ends in mind.

I understand your point of view, sex is exhausting, not so much physically but mentally
I think love without sex allows to go deeper

[Grenzland]

Cool, another crazy member! :D

[Fortis in Arduis]

I understand your point of view, sex is exhausting, not so much physically but mentally
I think love without sex allows to go deeper

Probably, but tantric sex is not exhausting.

[Grenzland]

Are you all 90yo and chain smokers? :D

I also don't know what should be "mentally exhausting" :D

[Loki]

What I have described is understood by and for the very few.

I am not a practitioner of tantric sex, but of abstinence, with the same ends in mind.

Well, good luck to you.

Hugh Hefner must have died many 'deaths' in his life already, yet he seems very happy, strong and full of life at old age :D :p

[Lusos]

The man adopts the exhausted sleeping position after losing semen, irrespective of what might have happened prior to that event. Ever wondered why?



I know that sex, and the orgasm, is an intense bonding experience, but why do you insist upon sex as a condition of intimacy in the bedroom?

Are you fixated upon orgasm and having that taste of cosmic consciousness?

How would you expect a Brit to think?

No but I believe It's Important to keep the other half happy.In all aspects.

Because brits are quite open minded and are fond of Sex.

[Corvus]

Are you all 90yo and chain smokers? :D

I also don't know what should be "mentally exhausting" :D

Just my point of view, I cannot talk for everybody though. I am personally looking for kind of platonic love with very little sex or even without sex. I know this sounds kind of extreme but thats my wish

[Grenzland]

Why?

[Corvus]

Why?

Hard to explain, I can`t actually

[Twistedmind]

Well, I am still in pretty much physical and mental state, despite the fact I have experience of "la petite mort" at least twice a day, for past few months.

[Sarmatian]

Cool, another crazy member! :D

It's fine mate. I think of it in such regard as if someone refuses to have a girlfriend that means I can have two ;)

[Loki]

It's fine mate. I think of it in such regard as if someone refuses to have a girlfriend that means I can have two ;)

In the end, that's one of the ways in which natural selection comes to pass :thumb001:

[mvbeleg]

I think only men with low testosterone levels could become asexual. Sexuality is a part of your makeup, it's not something you can just switch off. Just ask those Catholic priests ...



Not at all, low testosterone in adulthood is not strongly linked to sexual preference as it doesn't change your brain's chemical pathways in ways that would affect your ability to feel attraction. What determines one's psychosexual development is exposure to hormone levels before birth(in-uterine). Sexual preference is fixed at birth.


@littlestar: Probably genes are involved on some level too.



Some are calling asexuality `The Fourth Sexual Orientation'. Below are links to wiki articles about asexuality research:

http://www.asexuality.org/wiki/index.php?title=Research_relating_to_asexuality

http://www.asexuality.org/wiki/index.php?title=Anthony_F._Bogaert


My guess is that it is more common in people with inherent problems making human connections (e.g., schizoid personality, certain schizophrenias, Asperger's disorder, and autistic disorder).

[Szegedist]

To say the least, this thread is full of egoism, and ignoring/forgetting the needs of your partner.

[InmostLight]

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