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PeasantAndWorker
08-07-2013, 02:30 AM
Japan has unveiled its largest warship since World War II, to be used in anti-submarine warfare and border-area surveillance missions.

The vessel has a flight deck nearly 250m (820ft) long and can reportedly carry more than nine helicopters.

Its unveiling comes amid tensions with China over islands which both countries insist are theirs.

The Philippines is also bolstering its marine defences by buying a second decommissioned US Coast Guard ship.

President Benigno Aquino on Tuesday welcomed the arrival of the vessel in Subic Bay.

He said it would intensify patrols of the Philippines' exclusive economic zone in the South China Sea, where disputed waters have also raised tensions.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-23594519

Japan has been spending more and more on their "defence", they are starting to look like Germany and their rearmament before WW2. How long before they start trying to resurrect the old dream of the "Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere"?

Shah-Jehan
08-07-2013, 02:53 AM
Japan doesn't even have a proper army, so, how will it conquer Eastern Asia?

Anglojew
08-07-2013, 04:05 AM
Japan doesn't even have a proper army, so, how will it conquer Eastern Asia?


Actually Japan has a hugely modern defence force. Considering they're 1/10 China's population they spend a significant amount on defence;



https://www.scmp.com/sites/default/files/2012/10/17/scm_news_milspending17.art_2.jpg

Shah-Jehan
08-07-2013, 04:06 AM
Actually Japan has a hugely modern defence force. Considering they're 1/10 China's population they spend a significant amount on defence;



https://www.scmp.com/sites/default/files/2012/10/17/scm_news_milspending17.art_2.jpg

It's only for defensive purposes. Their constitution prevents them from deploying abroad and also most of their armaments are also degraded so, they cannot be deployed elsewhere...

Anglojew
08-07-2013, 04:12 AM
It's only for defensive purposes. Their constitution prevents them from deploying abroad and also most of their armaments are also degraded so, they cannot be deployed elsewhere...

Yes but the next war will be over a disputed territory and therefore defensive.

http://d1dep6bscgu00w.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Territorial-Disputes-over-East-China-Sea-Make-Exploration-More-Difficult.jpg

Shah-Jehan
08-07-2013, 04:13 AM
Yes but the next war will be over a disputed territory and therefore defensive.

http://d1dep6bscgu00w.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Territorial-Disputes-over-East-China-Sea-Make-Exploration-More-Difficult.jpg
Japan should also put territorial claims on the Kuril Islands and Southern Sakhalin Island...

d3cimat3d
08-07-2013, 05:54 AM
If it's not a mechanized samurai with a-22 rocket capabilities, im not interested

1stLightHorse
08-07-2013, 06:14 AM
Interesting, clever move by the US.

Melina
08-07-2013, 06:21 AM
Interesting, clever move by the US.

Maybe it is, but remember China is allies with Russia. Chinese military still has a long way to go to match the U.S., but If they invest a little more Japan is finished.

Drawing-slim
08-07-2013, 06:40 AM
It is only moral for US to encourage Japan and Germany to re-build a strong army again. Considering g china Russia and India are rising power while US is only on decline we definitely need these two badass countries strong.

epirot
08-07-2013, 09:00 AM
^^ lol how old are you?

Arend
08-07-2013, 09:10 AM
It is only moral for US to encourage Japan and Germany to re-build a strong army again. Considering g china Russia and India are rising power while US is only on decline we definitely need these two badass countries strong.Considering that I don’t really want to die for American geopolitical-interests it is not really a good idea.

Germans and Japanese alike shouldn’t be cannon fodder and mercenaries for America.

RussiaPrussia
08-07-2013, 09:22 AM
Japan should also put territorial claims on the Kuril Islands and Southern Sakhalin Island...

they claim to own kuril islands you morron. You should rather give back azeri and russian land back.

RussiaPrussia
08-07-2013, 09:24 AM
Actually Japan has a hugely modern defence force. Considering they're 1/10 China's population they spend a significant amount on defence;



https://www.scmp.com/sites/default/files/2012/10/17/scm_news_milspending17.art_2.jpg

these numbers are wrong or outdated

http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s666/malaria2000/610px-Inglehart_Values_Map2_DE2222222222_zpsa4e74a4c.png

Kiyant
08-07-2013, 09:34 AM
Well i hope so china became recently aggresive against all of its neighbours because they think they are the most powerful.

ButlerKing
08-07-2013, 09:48 AM
I don't think Japan is U.S puppet.

American may control Japan's military but Japan also control a chunk of U.S debt.

Drawing-slim
08-07-2013, 09:49 AM
Considering that I don’t really want to die for American geopolitical-interests it is not really a good idea.

Germans and Japanese alike shouldn’t be cannon fodder and mercenaries for America.

No doubt that Russian people would have been better off if let's say America allied with Germany and Japan instead, and conquer Russia.
No doubt about that. Even Chinese people would have been better off.

RussiaPrussia
08-07-2013, 11:11 AM
No doubt that Russian people would have been better off if let's say America allied with Germany and Japan instead, and conquer Russia.
No doubt about that. Even Chinese people would have been better off.

no doubt my ass.

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?88734-The-true-Reason-why-the-West-hates-Putin

russia was totally poor when it was under american influence like your albania is today, you nazi faq.

Russia is now the largest economy in europe


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3xy9LqFySY

Drawing-slim
08-07-2013, 11:23 AM
no doubt my ass.

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?88734-The-true-Reason-why-the-West-hates-Putin

russia was totally poor when it was under american influence like your albania is today, you nazi faq.

Russia is now the largest economy in europe


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3xy9LqFySY
Fucking stubborn Mongol Russian faq.
Means nothing. I said Russian people would have been far better off. How could they have not been better off economically for the last 70 years? idiot.

RussiaPrussia
08-07-2013, 11:32 AM
Fucking stubborn Mongol Russian faq.
Means nothing. I said Russian people would have been far better off. How could they have not been better off economically for the last 70 years? idiot.

they were better off in the last 70 years but thanks to the west they arent and so is all of eastern europe even worse than russia like your country. And you keep obeying them buying their useless products etc.
Albania is as rich as china now

http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.PP.CD?order=wbapi_data_value_2012+wbap i_data_value+wbapi_data_value-last&sort=desc

what now albo? how you explain it despite having support from germany, america and nato? ANd having the gift of germanisation and americanisation.

RandoBloom
08-07-2013, 11:36 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-23594519

Japan has been spending more and more on their "defence", they are starting to look like Germany and their rearmament before WW2. How long before they start trying to resurrect the old dream of the "Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere"?

Warship and battleship isnt the same.
And since WWII Japan didnt make any large warships so of course its largest.

Drawing-slim
08-07-2013, 12:23 PM
they were better off in the last 70 years but thanks to the west they arent and so is all of eastern europe even worse than russia like your country. And you keep obeying them buying their useless products etc.
Albania is as rich as china now

http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.PP.CD?order=wbapi_data_value_2012+wbap i_data_value+wbapi_data_value-last&sort=desc

what now albo? how you explain it despite having support from germany, america and nato? ANd having the gift of germanisation and americanisation.
It's actually annoying that you're so stubborn and so Russian you're not even considering what I'm saying.
I was born and raised inside a hardcore communist state, I know both worlds. Has nothing to do with being a nazi or anti-Russian. Infact I'm being more pro Russian than you on this hypothetical outcome.

Lets say Germany with United States together conquered Russia in 1944-45.
What would a Russians citizens life would have been like today, and how would have they lived for the last 70 years?

Stalin alone killed millions of its own people. In fact Stalin left millions of Ukrainians starve and send us albanians all their food.

Germany and Japan were in total ruin, how badly did they live under US influence the last 70 years? and compare them with us communist countries!

And this is not just a hypothetical situation, was actually a close possibility since some of the biggest US generals flirted with the idea of allying with Germany.

RussiaPrussia
08-07-2013, 04:23 PM
It's actually annoying that you're so stubborn and so Russian you're not even considering what I'm saying.
I was born and raised inside a hardcore communist state, I know both worlds. Has nothing to do with being a nazi or anti-Russian. Infact I'm being more pro Russian than you on this hypothetical outcome.

Lets say Germany with United States together conquered Russia in 1944-45.
What would a Russians citizens life would have been like today, and how would have they lived for the last 70 years?

Stalin alone killed millions of its own people. In fact Stalin left millions of Ukrainians starve and send us albanians all their food.

Germany and Japan were in total ruin, how badly did they live under US influence the last 70 years? and compare them with us communist countries!

And this is not just a hypothetical situation, was actually a close possibility since some of the biggest US generals flirted with the idea of allying with Germany.

if germany would have won russians would be all killed and so are all other uralic, slavic and jewish populations where are you pro russian if you want see us wiped out?

Shah-Jehan
08-07-2013, 06:46 PM
they claim to own kuril islands you morron. You should rather give back azeri and russian land back.

I'm from Bangladesh and live in Canada, if your talking about the territorial waters in the N.pole, sorry it always belonged to Canada and has been proven by survey ships that the space falls within the nation's territory...Otherwise, don't know what your talking about