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Baluarte
08-08-2013, 03:56 PM
Some fought as guerrillas during the bloody Balkans wars of the 1990s, battling powerful tanks and artillery.

Others grew up under the influence of radical Islam that has gained ground in poverty-hit areas in the Balkan countries and regions populated by Muslims.

Today, both experienced fighters and their younger followers are leaving the Balkans to join Syrian rebels on the front line. Many return home in body bags with their families often unaware they had even joined the fight.

Migena Maliqaj, an Albanian, had not heard from her husband Halil since November, when he told her he was leaving their home in Prush, outside the capital Tirana, to try to find work in Turkey. In June, she received a text message from an unknown number saying that Halil had been killed in Syria. Maliqaj was reluctant to talk to AFP.

“Leave me alone, I do not know anything,” she said in a trembling voice, pushing her three children inside a two-storey house.

The first Ermal Xhelo's mother knew of her son's involvement in Syria was when the 35-year-old's remains were brought home to her in Albania's southern city of Vlora. He too had said he was going to work in Turkey.

The Xhelo family also refused to talk. “My son had nothing to do with extremists,” the mother told AFP, abruptly ending the phone call.

Illir Kulla, a security expert from Albania, estimates that “at least 300 Albanians from Albania, Kosovo and Macedonia have left for Syria to fight in the name of a 'sacred war’” over the past months. Their conviction comes from their Islamic faith, Kulla stressed.

“They are not mercenaries, but volunteers convinced that they are fighting for a good cause... prone to religious manipulation that the war in Syria is truly a sacred war,” Kulla said.

A classified intelligence report by Kosovan security services described “Islamic extremists” going to Syria in small groups “claiming they are helping out their brothers.”

They travel in “small groups of two or three, in order not to look suspicious,” said the report seen by AFP.

In May, street signs in Novi Pazar, the main town in Serbia's Muslim-majority southern region of Sandzak, were covered with obituaries for Eldar Kudakovic, a 27-year-old killed in Syria during a raid by rebels on a prison near the key city of Aleppo, reportedly with another man from the area.

“All of us are with them. And all of us are Mujahideen,” read a message posted on a Sandzak radical Islam web portal, praising the victims as “martyrs.”

Why should we hesitate to help?

Since the start of hostilities 28 months ago, more than 100,000 people, mostly civilians, have been killed in Syria, the UN says. Millions more have been forced by violence to flee their homes.

Thousands of foreign fighters have flocked to Syria to join rebels fighting to bring down Bashar al-Assad's regime, travelling across the Turkish, Iraqi, Jordanian and Lebanese borders into the strife-torn country.

While many of Syria's rebels started off as inexperienced fighters, they have to an extent benefited from the experience of radical Islamists, many of who had already fought in other wars.

Jihadists have travelled to Syria mainly from Arab states -- Saudi Arabia, Tunisia, Libya and Iraq in particular -- but also from across Europe, the Caucasus and south Asia. Reports of jihadists dying in Syria have not deterred Balkans fighters.

One father-of-three from Podujevo, a small town in northern Kosovo, was making the final preparations for his journey to Syria, which he was to enter illegally.

“If Russia, Iran and Hezbollah do not hesitate to defend (President Bashar) al-Assad's regime which murders its own citizens, even children, why should we hesitate to help the Syrians?” argued the 40-year-old, a jobless construction worker who wanted to remain anonymous.

His words muffled by the call for noon prayer from a nearby mosque, he was nevertheless adamant his decision was final.

“Once I am gone, I will not return until the end of the war,” he told AFP, adding that his wife and young children would be taken care of by his two brothers.

Also planning to depart for Syria was a former sniper in the ethnic Albanian Kosovo Liberation Army, the separatist guerillas which fought against then Serbian strongman Slobodan Milosevic's forces in the 1998-1999 war. After spending two weeks in Aleppo to “assess the situation,” he now planned to join the rebels along “with about a dozen war comrades, experts in different weaponry if peace talks fail.”

Religious expert Visar Duriqi said recruitment of future fighters has been taking place in Kosovo through a set-up allegedly run by a Salafi sect known for its strict approach to Islam.

Recruitment is voluntary, experts agree, with Salafists meeting far from the eyes of the community, and often late at night. The Islamic Community of Kosovo, a body representing Muslims, denies any involvement in the Syria recruitment.

“I am all for helping the (Syrian) people to escape from this bloody mess, not individually, but as it was done in Libya” with help from the international community, its representative Resul Rexhepi said.

Observers say that the worsening economic crisis in the Balkans -- compounded by an unemployment rate that tops 20 percent in most countries in the region -- has contributed to the radicalization of youth.

Experts believe that the Salafist presence is strongest in Bosnia, as many foreign fighters joined Muslim forces against Bosnian Serb troops and settled there after the bloody 1992-1995 war.

Esad Hecimovic, a Bosnian security expert, told AFP that volunteers for the war in Syria said they were motivated by the fight for what they describe as a single “Islamic homeland.”

“This is the original motive, the same one which motivated some foreigners to come and fight in Bosnia, and now motivates Bosnians to go to Syria,” Hecimovic said.

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2013/08/07/-Balkan-former-guerrillas-join-Syria-rebels.html

Manifest Destiny
08-08-2013, 04:06 PM
And this is why I'm against Muslim immigration to non-Muslim white countries, no matter the race of the immigrant.

Methmatician
08-09-2013, 12:48 AM
And this is why I'm against Muslim immigration to non-Muslim white countries, no matter the race of the immigrant.

Wrong thread. This is about Balkan Muslims who have been radicalised and decided to fight in Syria.

Chieftain
08-09-2013, 12:50 AM
And this is why I'm against Muslim immigration to non-Muslim white countries, no matter the race of the immigrant.

Bosnian muslims are white converts...

Anglojew
08-09-2013, 01:38 AM
I wonder when Baluarte will end up going to Syria to join his Shia brothers.

Pontios
08-09-2013, 01:40 AM
Perhaps some Serbs and Greeks should go to Syria, straighten things with them again. :lol:

Gorštak
08-09-2013, 01:53 AM
Some people, who are not friends of Bosniaks and Albanians, try to make us as much possible radical Muslims because they know that they can't handle with us when we are civilized, educated and people with modern views, and it is more
acceptable do to something bad to radical people, than to modern Europeans as we are now.
The least valuable individuals of our community are tricked, but I would say it's still small number of individuals, but not so small that we just sit and don't do anything against it(I have some informations that police follows every move of them).
Anyway, day will come when we will have all names who are those who recruited our childern in that sect, and than I hope for solution "Night of the Long Knives" stile.

Guapo
08-09-2013, 01:57 AM
what a bunch of mudslim girlfriend-less losers, get a real job have and a family. Thats what real men do, not fight.

Shah-Jehan
08-09-2013, 03:52 AM
Middleasterns, North Africans and South Asians came to fight in the Balkans(Bosnia) for the Muslims there...Some nations had also sent weapons to these people(like Iran) instead of sending personnel to the war, these heroic Balkanite Muslims are just trying their best to repay them which any non-Muslim can't understand with his/her deep heart...

Gorštak
08-09-2013, 05:00 AM
Middleasterns, North Africans and South Asians came to fight in the Balkans(Bosnia) for the Muslims there...Some nations had also sent weapons to these people(like Iran) instead of sending personnel to the war, these heroic Balkanite Muslims are just trying their best to repay them which any non-Muslim can't understand with his/her deep heart...

Those guys who go there are Wahhabi Muslims, not really people that you can like.
They're brainwashed, they act just as somebody who don't like Islam would love that Muslims act. I have some theories who support them and why, but I need to read more before I start making concrete conclusions and charges.

Shah-Jehan
08-09-2013, 05:01 AM
Those guys who go there are Wahhabi Muslims, not really people that you can like.
They're brainwashed, they act just as somebody who don't like Islam would love that Muslims act. I have some theories who support them and why, but I need to read more before I start making concrete conclusions and charges.
I support the Baathist Party(hence Assad) anyways...

Krampus
08-09-2013, 05:46 AM
Bosnian muslims are white converts...

Same with Albanian Muslims...

Crn Volk
08-09-2013, 06:39 AM
Same with Albanian Muslims...

weak opportunists who sought gains from their ottoman masters....they received them in return for their soals....now they continue to fight for that stinking religion....

Gorštak
08-09-2013, 06:48 AM
weak opportunists who sought gains from their ottoman masters....they received them in return for their soals....now they continue to fight for that stinking religion....
Balkan Muslims were fighting a lot in the entire world during Ottomans era, while Orthodox were used by Ottomans only as shepherds.
That's why you're so weak and scared today, you have blood of shepherds, we have blood of warriors.

Zmey Gorynych
08-09-2013, 06:54 AM
I support the idea of defending your country, I can understand fighting for the expansion of your country but fighting for a bunch of mongrels some 2000 miles away is just plain stupid, unless this is a career choice. I hope they're getting paid because otherwise these bosniaks are really, really stupid.

Methmatician
08-09-2013, 06:56 AM
what a bunch of mudslim girlfriend-less losers, get a real job have and a family. Thats what real men do, not fight.

Muslims can have up to four wives. You can only have one. Who's living more? ;)

Methmatician
08-09-2013, 07:12 AM
I can understand fighting for the expansion of your country

How? Fighting for territorial expansion seems more unethical than helping people fight a civil war that is destroying their country and end it.

Zmey Gorynych
08-09-2013, 07:32 AM
How? Fighting for territorial expansion seems more unethical than helping people fight a civil war that is destroying their country and end it.
Ethics are not the issue here. I agree that taking away something that does not belong to you is unethical but at least it will benefit your side (if you succeed). These muslim europeans fight for the benefit of others and maybe against the interests of syrian people.

Methmatician
08-09-2013, 07:38 AM
Ethics are not the issue here. I agree that taking away something that does not belong to you is unethical but at least it will benefit your side (if you succeed). These muslim europeans fight for the benefit of others and maybe against the interests of syrian people.

That's what you believe. They might believe they are fighting to benefit the world. These people don't just casually decide to fight, they must really believe in what they're doing.

CrystalMaiden
08-09-2013, 08:20 AM
Lol, why do you represent them as some "religious fanatics fighting for free in name of Allah", these people fight for 3K KMs (around 1,6K Euros) a month.

That's six times higher than the average salary in Bosnia+ add to that all the gold and jewelry they "liberate" in their little Jihad and you get the real reason why these dogs of war join this little Saudi-Jud sponsored shenanigance.

Wadaad
08-09-2013, 10:02 AM
Lol, why do you represent them as some "religious fanatics fighting for free in name of Allah", these people fight for 3K KMs (around 1,6K Euros) a month.

That's six times higher than the average salary in Bosnia+ add to that all the gold and jewelry they "liberate" in their little Jihad and you get the real reason why these dogs of war join this little Saudi-Jud sponsored shenanigance.

Mercenaries dont tend to commit to suicidal acts though. Im sure they are motivated by both 'spoils of war' (which is also the name of the 8th Sura of the Quran) and ideology...

Coldy Valdir
08-09-2013, 10:13 AM
If you are such a fool to go in Syria , you deserve to be shot.