Where in France are these groups from?

[WOOHP]

All from the same region. Pretty hard to find pred. White ones nowadays so these are taken 20-30 years back. But there are still some immigrants as you can see.

http://image-parcours.copainsdavant.com/image/750/1036365231/4032336.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/nzhZvkk.jpg

http://image-parcours.copainsdavant.com/image/750/1403305605/1159653.jpg

[Ultra]

North Africa?

[Peikko]

North Africa?
Yeah, Morocco or Tunisia most likely.

[King Claus]

South france, alot of them have dyed hair lighter than they should be, i can tell this by their subrace/phenotype.

[WOOHP]

Ok North Africans with dyed blond hair so far, anyone else?

[WOOHP]

South france, alot of them have dyed hair lighter than they should be, i can tell this by their subrace/phenotype.

Wrong btw.

[gregorius]

judging last picture, breton area

[WOOHP]

judging last picture, breton area

Closer than the North Africa guess, but not correct.

[Ouistreham]

Those pictures are a stumper...

All these faces look familiar to me but a significant minority has a distinctive Southern vibe.
As if those groups were made of samples from the whole country, in which case accurate location would be irrelevant.
Military preparation colleges perhaps?

Otherwise, median France, like Anjou, Touraine, Berry, Burgundy, Lyons...

[WOOHP]

Those pictures are a stumper...

All these faces look familiar to me but a significant minority has a distinctive Southern vibe.
As if those groups were made of samples from the whole country, in which case accurate location would be irrelevant.
Military preparation colleges perhaps?

Otherwise, median France, like Anjou, Touraine, Berry, Burgundy, Lyons...
Yeah, Burgundy is correct, from Saône-et-Loire in central France. Two pics from Autun(military school) and one from Montceau les Mines. There are other military schools in other parts of France for sure(one around Poitiers area and one in Provence if I remember correctly), but I guess that several people living nearby Autun are included in those pics.

[Ouistreham]

Yeah, Burgundy is correct, from Saône-et-Loire in central France. Two pics from Autun(military school) and one from Montceau les Mines.

Sounds logical.
Autun and Montceau-les-Mines are actually more central-Eastern than central France (much closer to Germany than to the Atlantic) but the area (around Dijon and Beaune and their motorway junctions) is the country's real centre of gravity, half-way between Lille and Marseille.

[WOOHP]

I'm thinking that Frenchmen from the central part are more easily mixed up being from southern France rather than the far northern part. These pics could be from, lets say Aquitaine or Languedoc but probably not from Normandie or Pas-de-Calais.

Here are three pics from Aquitaine. Some Oïlitans ofc, but the overall picture is not that different.

http://image-parcours.copainsdavant.com/image/750/1618645624/3993735.jpg

http://www.photo-de-classe.com/photos-de-classe/photodeclasse_50936/photo-de-classe-1998-LYCEE+Pape+Clement.jpg

http://www.photo-de-classe.com/photos-de-classe/photodeclasse_229345/photo-de-classe-1973-LYCEE+Grand+Air.jpg

[Anonymous211]

Some French could pass for Kabyle/Riffian but never for the Moroccan average (olive skin,curly hair etc...)

[Anthropologique]

I was going to say SW France.

[Anthropologique]

Some French could pass for Kabyle/Riffian but never for the Moroccan average (olive skin,curly hair etc...)

Not indigenous French. Mixed ones can now and then.

[WOOHP]

I was going to say SW France.

Like I said in the post above, they don't differ that much from S. Frenchmen.

The pics from Aquitaine could very well be mixed up with the ones from Burgundy and vice versa. However, I don't see much the "Southern Euro" look in any of the pics posted here.

[Anonymous211]

Not indigenous French. Mixed ones can now and then.

For Kabyle/riffian some could pass

Like this guy (100% french) :

http://rapadonf.fr/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/téléchargement.jpg

Obviously neither french could pass for Moroccan average :

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-z0oTC99T9C8/T04NfAEgoLI/AAAAAAAAIQo/T4edYJfEke4/s640/Young+Moroccans.jpg

http://www.biladi.fr/sites/default/files/marouane-chamakh.jpg

http://thumbs.mugshots.com/gallery/images/fa/db/Ilyas-Ourzik-mugshot-26871534.400x800.jpg

https://sphotos-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/164991_379180852197686_45420935_n.png

http://lyonstar.football.fr/public/1326996144_small.jpg


Not indigenous French. Mixed ones can now and then.


Half maghrebian look south Euro generally

[rashka]

Wow, I like their fashion from those days.

[Ouistreham]

Here are three pics from Aquitaine. Some Oïlitans ofc, but the overall picture is not that different.


Aquitaine, really? I'd have expected more Baskid/Spanish mugs among them.

Despite humongous differences in lifestyle and popular culture from a region to another, the French are strangely homogeneous, more so than genetics and the absence of significant internal migrations would suggest.


I'm thinking that Frenchmen from the central part are more easily mixed up being from southern France rather than the far northern part. These pics could be from, lets say Aquitaine or Languedoc but probably not from Normandie or Pas-de-Calais.

Even there, I'm not that sure.

[WOOHP]

Aquitaine, really? I'd have expected more Baskid/Spanish mugs among them
Yeah, from Bergerac if I remember correctly.

Here is two from Périgueux, one from 1963 and one from 1982. No great differences.

http://image-parcours.linternaute.com/image/750/4/1997828788/2660717.jpg

http://image-parcours.copainsdavant.com/image/750/1492142758/3761863.jpg


Even there, I'm not that sure.

So you think that they could be, lets say an average group from Rouen? I think they would fit better southwards.

[Ouistreham]

So you think that they could be, lets say an average group from Rouen? I think they would fit better southwards.

Alright, they would offer a somewhat more likely image in Toulouse than in Rouen. But if I was told the pictures were shot in Rouen I wouldn't be exceedingly surprised. Rouen is a big town (0,5 M inhabitants, like Stor-Göteborg) with many people from various backgrounds, including potent Italian and Portuguese communities.

Anyway, Scandinavian presence in Normandy shouldn't be overrated. It must have been like 1 to 3% (Not like Spain with its 5 to 10% of pure Visigothic Germanics from the deserted taigas of Småland...).

[WOOHP]

Alright, they would offer a somewhat more likely image in Toulouse than in Rouen. But if I was told the pictures were shot in Rouen I wouldn't be exceedingly surprised. Rouen is a big town (0,5 M inhabitants, like Stor-Göteborg) with many people from various backgrounds, including potent Italian and Portuguese communities.
Agreed. I wouldn't ofc be surprised if someone told me they were from Normandie or Picardie, but I think they fit better in West and Southern France. That said, the difference between the various locals in France, from south to north or east to west is not that big and oftenly exaggerated.

Anyway, Scandinavian presence in Normandy shouldn't be overrated. It must have been like 1 to 3% (Not like Spain with its 5 to 10% of pure Visigothic Germanics from the deserted taigas of Småland...)
Tribes of 300 000 Goths from around year 400 :picard1:
Småland today is just about 700 000.

[Smaug]

All from the same region. Pretty hard to find pred. White ones nowadays so these are taken 20-30 years back. But there are still some immigrants as you can see.

http://image-parcours.copainsdavant.com/image/750/1036365231/4032336.jpg


Hehe, look at their clothes. 1960's? Early 70's?

[WOOHP]

Hehe, look at their clothes. 1960's? Early 70's?

1971- 2è C - Lycée Henri Parriat

I thought that it would've hit France and the rest of continental Western Europe much later than that.

[Ouistreham]

While we're at it: my point is that European nations weren't shaped just by chance, but that they were consequences of ethnical homogeneities that were there long before (for sure there might be some peripheral flaws in the process, like Corsica and Alsace being French and not Val d'Aoste and Wallonia).

I really hate it when Italians insists so much about the (grossly exaggerated) differences between North and South, this mindset is just what has impeded Italy so far from being a serious political actor on the scene.

But yes, there are differences, in France too.

Let's consider a few extreme examples from my homeland. The way to go is googling about "lycées agricoles", agricultural high schools that focus on farmer's children and are therefore most likely to offer samples of immigrant-free local populations.

First, Pau, in the bottom of the Southwest, close to Spain. Here, some overlap with Iberia can't be denied:

http://5b.img.v4.skyrock.net/7035/31347035/pics/1124790476.jpg

Now, 1,000 km in the opposite direction, Lycée agricole de Courcelles-Chaussy, Lorraine.
(It might be hard to believe they belong to the same country!):
http://www.republicain-lorrain.fr/fr/images/69AEC97A-A650-49AC-999E-5D0C5E18A4E7/LRL_03/le-prefet-au-lycee-agricole.jpg

Then, let's have a look to the Western tip of Brittany, near Quimper.
Typically Alpine types (I know it's counter-intuitive, Celtic regions are more readily associated to "Atlantic" anthropological landscapes than to Central European mountains, but in France Celticness combines most often with Alpinid individuals):
http://www.paysan-breton.fr/images/upload/img/090501dep562.jpg

And now, another 1,000 km ride to the South-East, to Saint-Rémy de Provence, near Marseilles:
http://www.clg-roquecoquille.ac-aix-marseille.fr/spip/IMG/image/groupe3.JPG

[WOOHP]

The pic from Pau is standing out the most. I see several Baskid aswell as Atlanto-Med influenced individuals but they differ a bit in comparision with the other pics from Aquitaine.

You also have to consider that the pic is from a rather big city, taken in 2006-2007. Other than that, I agree with your post.