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ButlerKing
08-11-2013, 04:25 AM
I don't know a world historic figure that is famous for his success and big dick, there is many world historic figures but almost all of them have small dicks.

* If we based on only European sizes. With the acception of French. The British, Portuguese, Germans, Spanish, Russians all have the smallest European average size dicks compared with less developed nations from Central Europe and East Europe.

* In terms of black africans, Ethiopians, Somalians have smaller penis than yet their much more successful history than other Blacks.

* In the Americas, united states have the smallest penis yet their most powerful nation today

I mean Alexander had a micro penis and yet he conquered half of the known world of his time.

http://caspost.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/caspost.com-penis-size-003a.png



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Country Length (cm)

Nigeria (Gerofi) 17.cm / 6.7 inch

US African (Kinsey) 16.6cm / 6.5 inch

US Caucasian (Kinsey) 15.8cm / 6.2 inch

Australia (Smith et al) 15.7cm / 6.2 inch

Brazil (De Ros et all) 14.5 cm / 5.7 inch

Thailand (Muangman) 13.5 cm / 5.35 inch

Korea (Han et all) 12.7 cm / 5 inch


South Asians

India 4 inch
Sri Lanka 4.3 inch
Bangladesh 4.4 inch
Pakistan 4.8 inch


Asians

Korea 3.8 inch
Cambodia 4 inch
Thailand 4 inch
Phillipines 4.2 inch
Taiwan 4.2 inch
China 4.3 inch
Japan 4.3 inch
Hong Kong 4.4 inch
Malaysia 4.4 inch
Vietnam 4.5 inch
Singapore 4.5 inch
Burma 4.6 inch
Indonesia 4.6 inch
Mongolia 5 inch
Siberia 5.1 inch
Greenland-Inuit 5.4 inch (12% are mixture of Inuit and Danish).

Central Asians (mixture of Caucasian/white and Asian)

Kyrgyzs 5.27 inch
Turkmenistan 5.3 inch
Kazakhs 5.45 inch
Uighurs 5.5 inch
Uzbeks 5.6 inch

White

Romania 4.9 inch
Irish 5.0 inch
America 5.1 inch
Portugal 5.2 inch
Armenia 5.2 inch
Russia 5.2 inch
Estonia 5.4 inch
Azerbaijan 5.4 inch
Finland 5.4 inch
Spain 5.5 inch
Britain 5.5 inch
Macedonia 5.5 inch
Ukraine 5.5 inch
Poland 5.6 inch
Germany 5.6 inch
Austria 5.6 inch
Switzerland 5.6 inch
Belarus 5.7 inch
Sweden 5.8 inch
Serbia 5.8 inch
Croatia 5.8 inch
Albania 5.8 inch
Slovakia 5.9 inch
Bulgaria 5.9 inch
Georgia 6.1 inch
Italy 6.2 inch
Netherland 6.2 inch
Czech republic 6.3 inch
Belgium 6.4 inch
Hungary 6.5 inch

Black

Ethiopia 5.3 inch
Somalia 5.5 inch
Eritrea 5.6 inch
Suriname 5.7 inch
Cote I'voire 5.9 inch
South Africa 6 inch
Nigeria 6 inch
Chad 6 inch
Zimbawe 6.1 inch
Belize 6.2 inch
Burkina faso 6.2 inch
Senegal 6.3 inch
Haiti 6.3 inch
Jamaica 6.4 inch
Sudan 6.4 inch
Cameroon 6.5 inch
Ghana 6.7 inch
Congo 7.1 inch

North Africans ( Middle eastern Caucasoid with slight African admixture)

Libya 5.4 inch
Algeria 5.5 inch
Tunisia 5.9 inch
Morocco 5.9 inch
Egypt 6.2 inch



Mulatto

(white and black)
Cape Verda 5.9 inch

( mixture of white, mestizo, Black)
Cuba 6.2 inch
Dominican republic 6.2 inch


Meztizo ( mixture of White and brown skinned South American Indians)

Chile 5.7 inch
El Savador 5.8 inch
Costo rica 6.9 inch
Mexican 5.9 inch
Uruguay 5.9 inch
Nicaragua 6 inch
Paraguay 6.1 inch
Gambia 6.1 inch
Guatemala 6.1 inch
Brazil 6.2 inch
Paraguay 6.3 inch
Panama 6.4 inch
Bolivia 6.5 inch
Colombia 6.8 inch
Ecuador 6.9 inch
Venezuela 6.9 inch

Native American


Native American 5.66 inch

Middle easterner

Yemen 5.0 inch
Afghanistan 5.3 inch
Saudi Arabia 5.4 inch
Turkey 5.5 inch
Israel 5.6 inch
Iraq 5.7 inch
Ireland 5.7 inch
Gaza 5.9 inch
Lebanon 6.6 inch

Shah-Jehan
08-11-2013, 04:28 AM
you're Weird to the max bro:lol:

Hadouken
08-11-2013, 04:32 AM
Middle easterner

Yemen 5.0 inch
Afghanistan 5.3 inch
Saudi Arabia 5.4 inch
Turkey 5.5 inch
Israel 5.6 inch
Iraq 5.7 inch
Ireland 5.7 inch
Gaza 5.9 inch
Lebanon 6.6 inch

wut

Shah-Jehan
08-11-2013, 04:33 AM
wut

:laugh:Told you he's a weird type of troll...

ButlerKing
08-11-2013, 04:34 AM
wut

I don't know, I copy and pasted this data from Godlikeproduction.

I think is Iran 5.7 inches, because that is the size given in the world penis size map.

Shah-Jehan
08-11-2013, 04:35 AM
I don't know, I copy and pasted this data from Godlikeproduction.

I think is Iran 5.7 inches, because that is the size given in the world penis size map.

You are plagiarising if you haven't provided the source...

MelinusMargos
08-11-2013, 04:37 AM
Northern italians look to have both. Highest QI, most productive region of europe, big dicks. Ubermensch in everything ;)

ButlerKing
08-11-2013, 04:39 AM
You are plagiarising if you haven't provided the source...

Source is here
http://www.targetmap.com/viewer.aspx?reportId=3073

Alexander the great and his famous micro penis statue ( 1 inch ). I have yet to see a statue of a great leader that doesn't have such a small dick.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mZ4x5p0sAZc/TCM9eh49YyI/AAAAAAAAFLI/1cS1CHFAIo8/s1600/alexander-the-great.jpg

Mortimer
08-11-2013, 04:44 AM
a big penis is better, because of the visual effect, a big penis looks more attractive and because you can do more positions also because of the touching effect, she has a handful

Lemon Kush
08-11-2013, 04:44 AM
I'd still rather have a big dick

ButlerKing
08-11-2013, 04:46 AM
There are no nations that is big dick and advance though.

MissProvocateur
08-11-2013, 04:49 AM
You do realize that Uruguay is in the majority white, not mestizo, right? At least 60% of our population is white. Also, India is not very succesful or progressive, and they seem to have the smallest penises.

There is simply no correlation between penis size and success...

Oh wait, I see, you're trying to feel better about yourself? That's cute.

MelinusMargos
08-11-2013, 04:51 AM
ButlerKing, take a look at northern Italy.

http://hbdchick.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/jayman-iq-map-europe.png
http://www.sportellounico.marche.it/eplitev2/ContentManagement/Uploaded/CMItemImages/PIL.gif

and negroid penis.

ButlerKing
08-11-2013, 04:52 AM
You do realize that Uruguay is in the majority white, not mestizo, right? At least 60% of our population is white.
Also, India is not very succesful or progressive, and they seem to have the smallest penises.

There is simply no correlation between penis size and success...

Oh wait, I see, you're trying to feel better about yourself? That's cute.

Uruguay have mestizo blood which makes them Caztizo but still Meztizo.


Indian are known for being doctors, lawyers, scientists just like Chinese students in the west.

Shah-Jehan
08-11-2013, 04:54 AM
You do realize that Uruguay is in the majority white, not mestizo, right? At least 60% of our population is white. Also, India is not very succesful or progressive, and they seem to have the smallest penises.

There is simply no correlation between penis size and success...

Oh wait, I see, you're trying to feel better about yourself? That's cute.

The economic growth in India is one of the world's highest making it possible for India to become a potential Superpower in the future sometime...The rest I agree with...

Hadouken
08-11-2013, 04:55 AM
Oh wait, I see, you're trying to feel better about yourself? That's cute.

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h54/irishrussianpunk/gcc/1000x500px-ll-b2fdb6ac_lozgr_gif_collection_of_someone_eating_po pcorn.gif

heeeeere we go

MissProvocateur
08-11-2013, 04:55 AM
Uruguay have mestizo blood which makes them Caztizo but still Meztizo.


Indian are known for being doctors, lawyers, scientists just like Chinese students in the west.


Funny, I, and the majority of my Uruguayan friends are not Mestizo or Castizo.

You have never been to Uruguay, you can't really tell. Nor do you know anything about my country's history, if you did, you wouldn't be making such accusations. Yes, there may be a percentage that has amerindian blood, but it's still a minority. I think mulattos are more common than mestizos here.

?

Shah-Jehan
08-11-2013, 04:56 AM
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h54/irishrussianpunk/gcc/1000x500px-ll-b2fdb6ac_lozgr_gif_collection_of_someone_eating_po pcorn.gif

heeeeere we go
Leave some popcorn for me bro:tongue:

ButlerKing
08-11-2013, 04:56 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/92/AverageIQ-Map-World.png

ButlerKing
08-11-2013, 04:59 AM
Funny, I, and the majority of my Uruguayan friends are not Mestizo or Castizo.

You have never been to Uruguay, you can't really tell. Nor do you know anything about my countries history, if you did, you wouldn't be making such accusations. Yes, there may be a percentage that has amerindian blood, but it's still a minority. I think mulattos are more common than mestizos here.

?

Okay let me just point out what's important.

In 2005 Sinthia Pagano, M.D conducted a genetic study, detecting the possibility that 38% of Uruguayans may have expressed partial genetic influence from the Amerindian population[9][10]

MissProvocateur
08-11-2013, 05:05 AM
Okay let me just point out what's important.

In 2005 Sinthia Pagano, M.D conducted a genetic study, detecting the possibility that 38% of Uruguayans may have expressed partial genetic influence from the Amerindian population[9][10]


...That's still a minority.

Hadouken
08-11-2013, 05:08 AM
.... That's still a minority.

is it really THAT important ? as if amerindians are not humans

lol

ButlerKing
08-11-2013, 05:09 AM
.... That's still a minority.

Is still significant, is there any European or white nation that has so much non-white ancestry?

Perharps you should have been named Caztizo and white,

It wasn't me who put Uraguay in the Meztizo list but than again you guys don't look all that European with all the black hair and black eyes ( generally ) and many of you look just like Mexicans.

Shah-Jehan
08-11-2013, 05:09 AM
is it really THAT important ? as if amerindians are not humans

lol

Only Mr.Logan here is probably Mestizo:laugh: but, still hates them...

Shah-Jehan
08-11-2013, 05:10 AM
Is still significant, is there any European or white nation that has so much non-white ancestry?

Perharps you should have been named Caztizo and white,

It wasn't me who put Uraguay in the Meztizo list but than again you guys don't look all that European with all the black hair and black eyes ( generally )
They mainly descend from Iberians, are the majority supposed to look Nordic?
Having black eyes isn't natural at all...

ButlerKing
08-11-2013, 05:13 AM
They mainly descend from Iberians, are the majority supposed to look Nordic?
Having black eyes isn't natural at all...


That could be a factor. At least 1 out 2 look like these

http://english.people.com.cn/mediafile/201006/17/P201006171852231746474731.jpg
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/timvickery/edinson_595.jpg

Shah-Jehan
08-11-2013, 05:14 AM
That could be a factor. At least 1 out 2 look like these

http://english.people.com.cn/mediafile/201006/17/P201006171852231746474731.jpg

The girl in the left is probably typical but, not the guy...

MissProvocateur
08-11-2013, 05:15 AM
is it really THAT important ? as if amerindians are not humans

lol

Amerindians are humans, it just annoys me how people mistakenly lumps a country as Amerindian when it still, as a majority, another race.



Is still significant, is there any European or white nation that has so much non-white ancestry?


Except that Uruguay is NOT a European nation. But it's still as a majority, white. And how come Argentina is not in the list?

MissProvocateur
08-11-2013, 05:16 AM
That could be a factor. At least 1 out 2 look like these

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/timvickery/edinson_595.jpg

The guy on the very right looks quite obviously Amerindian, the rest though, not so much.

Shah-Jehan
08-11-2013, 05:16 AM
Amerindians are humans, it just annoys me how people mistakenly lumps a country as Amerindian when it still, as a majority, another race.




Except that Uruguay is NOT a European nation. But it's still as a majority, white. And how come Argentina is not in the list?

Uruguay and Argentina are probably the only Spanish speaking nations in Latin America with a White majority(and maybe Colombia)...

Hadouken
08-11-2013, 05:17 AM
Amerindians are humans, it just annoys me how people mistakenly lumps a country as Amerindian when it still, as a majority, another race.


yeah ok you are right on that

ButlerKing
08-11-2013, 05:18 AM
Except that Uruguay is NOT a European nation. But it's still as a majority, white. And how come Argentina is not in the list?

Majority white, but nearly half have partial Amerindian blood which could make you meztizo ( but ussually Caztizo.)


Many of you look like this although there are are many of you with a white look.
http://braziltothenations.org/hp_joomla_15/images/stories/deployment/Uruguay/humberto%20e%20giane%202002%20convenao.jpg

Anonymous211
08-11-2013, 05:25 AM
North Africans have much more 6 average I think

Oneeye
08-11-2013, 05:48 AM
Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Útrám
08-11-2013, 06:09 AM
There's something vaguely Freudian about this.

Damiăo de Góis
08-11-2013, 03:55 PM
* If we based on only European sizes. With the acception of French. The British, Portuguese, Germans, Spanish, Russians all have the smallest European average size dicks compared with less developed nations from Central Europe and East Europe.


I don't even want to think about how you know this.

armenianbodyhair
08-11-2013, 03:56 PM
:picard1:

Hadouken
08-11-2013, 03:57 PM
:picard1:

ancestry : vodka

lol :D

Formozgan
08-11-2013, 04:02 PM
Very subtle way of confessing you have a small penis.

Loki
08-11-2013, 09:23 PM
* If we based on only European sizes. With the acception of French. The British, Portuguese, Germans, Spanish, Russians all have the smallest European average size dicks compared with less developed nations from Central Europe and East Europe.


Bullshit lol. The Dutch have some of the largest schlongs in Europe, and I wouldn't exactly call them unsuccessful.

Loki
08-11-2013, 09:25 PM
North Africans have much more 6 average I think

You wish. Native Frenchmen have larger penises than North Africans.

sturmwalkure
08-11-2013, 09:25 PM
LOL!

Permafrost
08-11-2013, 09:28 PM
Hungary 6.5 inch

And for this precise reason they are known to the world as the Hung Aryans...

Aunt Hilda
08-11-2013, 09:30 PM
Source is here
http://www.targetmap.com/viewer.aspx?reportId=3073

Alexander the great and his famous micro penis statue ( 1 inch ). I have yet to see a statue of a great leader that doesn't have such a small dick.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mZ4x5p0sAZc/TCM9eh49YyI/AAAAAAAAFLI/1cS1CHFAIo8/s1600/alexander-the-great.jpg

that's because a small penis was considered to be an attractive feature back then.

RussiaPrussia
08-11-2013, 09:34 PM
you're Weird to the max bro:lol:

well at least he has a point

Graham
08-11-2013, 09:43 PM
This thread is shite!


I don't know, I copy and pasted this data from Godlikeproduction.


That explains it.

Damiăo de Góis
08-11-2013, 09:51 PM
Touring around the world measuring cocks in the name of science must have took a lot of work. I wonder who did it?

http://caspost.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/caspost.com-penis-size-003a.png

CrystalMaiden
08-11-2013, 09:55 PM
What is wrong with you people?

Melina
08-11-2013, 09:55 PM
There are no nations that is big dick and advance though.

That maybe true. But how can you explain the Dutch...


What is wrong with you people?

Hey this is a serious discussion. :lol:

Albion
08-11-2013, 10:51 PM
The economic growth in India is one of the world's highest making it possible for India to become a potential Superpower in the future sometime...The rest I agree with...

Poor countries always grow fast, growth is also very fast in Africa, it means little though.

Shah-Jehan
08-11-2013, 10:53 PM
Poor countries always grow fast, growth is also very fast in Africa, it means little though.

Not as much as India though and no country in Africa is selected as a potential/future Superpower...

Aunt Hilda
08-11-2013, 10:57 PM
Not as much as India though and no country in Africa is selected as a potential/future Superpower...
the problem with India (and China) is their internal struggles, I don't see how they could replace america. the only country that has the actual potential to pull of being a super power is Russia.

Albion
08-11-2013, 10:59 PM
Not as much as India though and no country in Africa is selected as a potential/future Superpower...

Yeah, yeah, we've all heard stuff about potential superpowers before. In the 20th century one was Argentina (yes, Argentina), then there was Japan, now there's India, but it has many obstacles to overcome. It'll emerge as a great power, not a superpower though.

Shah-Jehan
08-11-2013, 10:59 PM
the problem with India (and China) is their internal struggles, I don't see how they could replace america. the only country that has the actual potential to pull of being a super power is Russia.

but, Russia is also plagued with wars for e.g. in the Cuacasus and it's declining populations show signs of the Country declining as a whole...

Aunt Hilda
08-11-2013, 11:01 PM
but, Russia is also plagued with wars for e.g. in the Cuacasus and it's declining populations show signs of the Country declining as a whole...
I said potential, I didn't say it was likely.

Formozgan
08-11-2013, 11:02 PM
but, Russia is also plagued with wars for e.g. in the Cuacasus and it's declining populations show signs of the Country declining as a whole...

I do not think so. Their hard stance on Syria is a proof of this.

Shah-Jehan
08-11-2013, 11:03 PM
I said potential, I didn't say it was likely.

It would be better if there were no "Superpowers", then the whole world will have a very just and independent voice and preserve their own opinions...

ButlerKing
08-11-2013, 11:06 PM
the problem with India (and China) is their internal struggles, I don't see how they could replace america. the only country that has the actual potential to pull of being a super power is Russia.

Europe once beg China.

China in the past were world superpowers, they were leading in technology and was richest nations for longest time.

Aunt Hilda
08-11-2013, 11:12 PM
Europe once beg China.

China in the past were world superpowers, they were leading in technology and was richest nations for longest time.
that's nice dear.

HillY35
08-11-2013, 11:13 PM
:picard2:

mr. logan
08-11-2013, 11:14 PM
You are delusional. China was never a superpower or developed any technology, beyond primitive sketches. Never invaded anyone and I think all that warrior stories are bullshit propaganda. You sound asian in the writing. Are you an asiatic troooollll?

Medium high iq and cocks always rule. The problem in America must be overweight, which reduces cock size.
Big and small all work for medium high.

Formozgan
08-11-2013, 11:16 PM
You are delusional. China was never a superpower or developed any technology, beyond primitive sketches. Never invaded anyone and I think all that warrior stories are bullshit propaganda. You sound asian in the writing. Are you an asiatic troooollll?


As opposed to Paraguay which is a very innovative superpower right?

Shah-Jehan
08-11-2013, 11:16 PM
You are delusional. China was never a superpower or developed any technology, beyond primitive sketches. Never invaded anyone and I think all that warrior stories are bullshit propaganda. You sound asian in the writing. Are you an asiatic troooollll?

:picard2:

ButlerKing
08-11-2013, 11:16 PM
that's nice dear.

China was the world richest and advance nation for thousand years. It had most of world's wealth, and it was a nation with the most inventions and advancement.

Shah-Jehan
08-11-2013, 11:16 PM
As opposed to *Uruguay which is a superpower right?

Fixed

ButlerKing
08-11-2013, 11:18 PM
You are delusional. China was never a superpower or developed any technology, beyond primitive sketches. Never invaded anyone and I think all that warrior stories are bullshit propaganda. You sound asian in the writing. Are you an asiatic troooollll?

Medium high iq and cocks always rule. The problem in America must be overweight, which reduces cock size.
Big and small all work for medium high.

Study history, not only China but also India were both great powers in the past.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjEGncridoQ

Aunt Hilda
08-11-2013, 11:20 PM
China was the world richest and advance nation for thousand years. It had most of world's wealth, and it was a nation with the most inventions and advancement.
again, i don't see how this is relevant to contemporary China and India.

ButlerKing
08-11-2013, 11:20 PM
Tang Dynasty 618 – 907 AD GDP per capita:$480, 58% of world GDP

Song Dynasty 960-1279 AD GDP per capita:US$2,280, 80% of the world’s GDP

Yuan Dynasty 1271-1368 A estimated to account for about 30% -35% GDP

Ming Dynasty 1368–1644 AD GDP per capita:US$600, 55% of world GDP

Qing Dynasty 1644-1922 AD GDP per capita:US$600 Qing Dynasty accounted for 35% -10% of the World GDP

Shah-Jehan
08-11-2013, 11:20 PM
Study history, not only China but also India were both great powers in the past.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjEGncridoQ
Although Butrollking is an outright troll, Mr.Logan is a self-delusional Mestizo with a Self-centered yet Nazi-minded ego...

ButlerKing
08-11-2013, 11:23 PM
again, i don't see how this is relevant to contemporary China and India.

I made my point, China and India were already the richest nations for the longest time past so why couldn't they do it again. China and India economy account for more than 70% of the world GDP in the past. If they were so powerful and rich in the past why couldn't they do it again?

ButlerKing
08-11-2013, 11:27 PM
You are delusional. China was never a superpower or developed any technology, beyond primitive sketches. Never invaded anyone and I think all that warrior stories are bullshit propaganda.

China invaded Korea, Tocharian, Tibet, Inner Mongolia, Manchuria, Vietnam and also conquered them.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1c/Tang_Dynasty_circa_700_CE.png/250px-Tang_Dynasty_circa_700_CE.png

http://www.gambassa.com/GambassaFiles/Images/images/dluo95jk/ming_dynasty_map_V1.jpg

mr. logan
08-11-2013, 11:42 PM
Vietnam, Tibet, Tocharian, Manchuria, peasantry lands without real armies. Get real. They spent hundreds of years building a mud wall not to be wiped out by mongols.

ButlerKing
08-11-2013, 11:44 PM
Vietnam, Tibet, Tocharian, Manchuria, peasantry lands without real armies. Get real. They spent hundreds of years building a mud wall not to be wiped out by mongols.

Mongols only ruled china for 90 years

Ottomans ruled Greece for 600 years.

Shah-Jehan
08-11-2013, 11:45 PM
Vietnam, Tibet, Tocharian, Manchuria, peasantry lands without real armies. Get real. They spent hundreds of years building a mud wall not to be wiped out by mongols.
They kicked American butts with mud bomb? Right?

Furnace
08-11-2013, 11:45 PM
So the conclusion is that ButlerKing got a small penis.

Formozgan
08-11-2013, 11:45 PM
Vietnam, Tibet, Tocharian, Manchuria, peasantry lands without real armies. Get real. They spent hundreds of years building a mud wall not to be wiped out by mongols.

You seem to think very high of yourself for coming from a small little unknown country with less than 100 years of history that likely got colonized by 350 Spaniards and Sephardies without any major resistance and has never been involved in any major war.

Melina
08-11-2013, 11:45 PM
I made my point, China and India were already the richest nations for the longest time past so why couldn't they do it again. China and India economy account for more than 70% of the world GDP in the past. If they were so powerful and rich in the past why couldn't they do it again?

Agreed. Not to long from now China may become a superpower again. Especially that Russia is their closest allie. And there is rumor a war is going to erupt pretty soon.

mr. logan
08-11-2013, 11:46 PM
Study history, not only China but also India were both great powers in the past.




Where does that GDP data come from? It is very funny.
They say they were superpowers, but nobody, except some less organized neighbour, noticed that.

ButlerKing
08-11-2013, 11:48 PM
Here is Chinese ships by Zheng He vs Columbus

http://poseidonsciences.scienceblog.com/files/2010/12/Scienceblog-Balanhai-Zheng_He_ship_compared_to_Columbus_rev1-Final-2.jpg

Shah-Jehan
08-11-2013, 11:49 PM
Where does that GDP data come from? It is very funny.
They say they were superpowers, but nobody, except some less organized neighbour, noticed that.

Your such a stupid jerk who's over-crazed about insulting other nations than working for his own nation, I pity you...

ButlerKing
08-11-2013, 11:50 PM
Where does that GDP data come from? It is very funny.
They say they were superpowers, but nobody, except some less organized neighbour, noticed that.

History and historians say they are superpower.

Many British historians talk about the greatness of Chinese



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx-x7BrgjSA

Shkembe Chorba
08-11-2013, 11:50 PM
i have bigger wee-wee than my fellow-men


take thaaaaaat

mr. logan
08-11-2013, 11:52 PM
You sad parrot in drapes, you just can´t understand the nightmare...Carry on.

Zhang He´s ships? Nobody saw them. Columbus type of ships made us enter in Asia.

Shkembe Chorba
08-11-2013, 11:52 PM
that explains why i am unsuccesfull in my career.

Shkembe Chorba
08-11-2013, 11:53 PM
that explains why i am unsuccesfull in my career.
CUZ OF MY UPPER AVERAGE COCK SIZE, hehe

Shah-Jehan
08-11-2013, 11:53 PM
You sad parrot in drapes, you just can´t understand the nightmare...Carry on.

Zhang He´s ships? Nobody saw them. Columbus type of ships made us enter in Asia.
Zhange He's ships used to sail to the Near East and South East Asia(malacca, Yogyakarta)...

ButlerKing
08-11-2013, 11:54 PM
You sad parrot in drapes, you just can´t understand the nightmare...Carry on.

Zhang He´s ships? Nobody saw them. Columbus type of ships made us enter in Asia.

That is why morons who don't know nothing about history should SHUT UP.

http://www.absolutechinatours.com/UploadFiles/ImageBase/Zhenghe-Voyages.jpg

Europe was for 1500 years was being conquered by Huns, Magyars, Bulgars, Arabs, Moors, Mongols, Turkic empires,

Melina
08-11-2013, 11:54 PM
that explains why i am unsuccesfull in my career.

You shouldn't use that as an excuse. :biggrin:

Shkembe Chorba
08-11-2013, 11:56 PM
You shouldn't use that as an excuse. :biggrin:
i blame my wee-wee for all my troubles :(

ButlerKing
08-11-2013, 11:56 PM
Where do you think the dark age of Europe came from?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpziBNWmChs

Shah-Jehan
08-11-2013, 11:56 PM
That is why morons who don't know nothing about history should SHUT UP.

http://www.absolutechinatours.com/UploadFiles/ImageBase/Zhenghe-Voyages.jpg

Europe was for 1500 years was being conquered by Huns, Magyars, Bulgars, Arabs, Moors, Mongols, Turkic empires,

The guy is an idiot anyways, can't get any sense to that "Mr.Lowgan"

Smeagol
08-12-2013, 12:04 AM
That is why morons who don't know nothing about history should SHUT UP.

http://www.absolutechinatours.com/UploadFiles/ImageBase/Zhenghe-Voyages.jpg

Europe was for 1500 years was being conquered by Huns, Magyars, Bulgars, Arabs, Moors, Mongols, Turkic empires,

Europe was never conquered entirely. It did conquer all of Asia though.

ButlerKing
08-12-2013, 12:08 AM
Europe was never conquered entirely. It did conquer all of Asia though.

It didn't conquered China, Japan, Korea. It only occupied HK, but for Japan it was very short time.
Well at least North Korea, Thailand, Mongolia was not conquered.

However Southern Europe, East Europe, Iberia, Caucasus was conquered for a very freaking long time by non-European groups like Moors, Arabs, Turkic, Mongols

A Mongolian even made this video to mock us, because it's true East Europe were freaking weak as heck in the past.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpfjMt7FB-c

Shkembe Chorba
08-12-2013, 12:08 AM
We stahped talkin bout wee-wees.

Shah-Jehan
08-12-2013, 12:10 AM
Europe was never conquered entirely. It did conquer all of Asia though.

Whole of India wasn't conquered, don't spread BS and both Butrollking(the troll) and Mr.Lowgan(the idiot) don't know much about history...

ButlerKing
08-12-2013, 12:12 AM
Whole of India wasn't conquered, don't spread BS and both Butrollking(the troll) an
d Mr.Lowgan(the idiot) don't know much about history...

India brought lot of Science and knowledge to Europe, however India was one of the world weakest nation in history as it was conquered non-stop by invaders for most of the 2300 years history.

Shah-Jehan
08-12-2013, 12:14 AM
India brought lot of Science and knowledge to Europe, however India was one of the world weakest nation in history as it was conquered non-stop by invaders for most of the 2300 years history.

India, then was only a region, depends which parts of India...

Smeagol
08-12-2013, 12:14 AM
It didn't conquered China, Japan, Korea. It only occupied HK, but for Japan it was very short time.
Well at least North Korea, Thailand, Mongolia was not conquered.

China was basically conquered, we just never occupied the whole country because of it's size. Korea, Thailand, and Japan were all conquered in World War 2, and Mongolia was a Russian puppet state for most of the twentieth century.


However Southern Europe, East Europe, Iberia, Caucasus was conquered for a very freaking long time by non-European groups like Moors, Arabs, Turkic, Mongols

That's true, but it was never 1500 years as you say, and not all of Southern Europe. Eastern Europe, or Iberia were conquered, just parts. For example, non-Europeans never conquered Italy, or Finland.

gregorius
08-12-2013, 12:15 AM
I think this would answer alot of your questions

http://youtu.be/ddp70SjsiNw?t=14s

SilverKnight
08-12-2013, 12:15 AM
Mulatto

(white and black)
Cape Verda 5.9 inch

( mixture of white, mestizo, Black)
Cuba 6.2 inch
Dominican republic 6.2 inch





FTW mofos :cool:

Melina
08-12-2013, 12:15 AM
India brought lot of Science and knowledge to Europe, however India was one of the world weakest nation in history as it was conquered non-stop by invaders for most of the 2300 years history.

That may be true but India had and still does have a lot of resources. Because of the rise of the Ottoman empire Europeans needed to find a new route to get the resources.

Smeagol
08-12-2013, 12:16 AM
India brought lot of Science and knowledge to Europe,

Like what? The British also brought a lot of science and knowledge to India.

Shah-Jehan
08-12-2013, 12:17 AM
That may be true but India had and still does have a lot of resources. Because of the rise of the Ottoman empire Europeans needed to find a new route to get the resources.

Why are you sometimes overtly smart and other times ridiculously stupid?

Smeagol
08-12-2013, 12:17 AM
Whole of India wasn't conquered

Yes it was, it was all part of British India. It was under foreign rule for centuries.

Shah-Jehan
08-12-2013, 12:18 AM
Like what? The British also brought a lot of science and knowledge to India.

Your numeral system for a start, Mathematical methods(such as decimal system), different medicinal knowledge and on and on...

Shah-Jehan
08-12-2013, 12:19 AM
Yes it was, it was all part of British India. It was under foreign rule for centuries.

British India didn't control all of India, it had several native states that were only suzerain to it...

Melina
08-12-2013, 12:20 AM
Why are you sometimes overtly smart and other times ridiculously stupid?

You are just saying that because I was talking in favor of India. :P

Shah-Jehan
08-12-2013, 12:21 AM
You are just saying that because I was talking in favor of India. :P

Not really, I've seen you say really smart stuff in other threads too...

Shkembe Chorba
08-12-2013, 12:21 AM
I am thinking of unsubscribing from this thead.

Smeagol
08-12-2013, 12:22 AM
Your numeral system for a start, Mathematical methods(such as decimal system), different medicinal knowledge and on and on...

Nope, sorry these were all from Aryan India, created by Aryans, and Persians.

Melina
08-12-2013, 12:22 AM
Like what? The British also brought a lot of science and knowledge to India.

It was more like spices and fabric. Remember pepper was very expensive and was considered a luxury back then.

ButlerKing
08-12-2013, 12:22 AM
China was basically conquered, we just never occupied the whole country because of it's size. Korea, Thailand, and Japan were all conquered in World War 2, and Mongolia was a Russian puppet state for most of the twentieth century.

I consider it more like a tribute state. The only colony of Europeans was HK and Macau, and these were areas that were almost non-inhabited in the past, those were areas under the rule of European empires.

Thailand was never conquered by European power before.
Japan was only occupied in 1945 - 1952
Korea wasn't conquered
Mongolian was under Russian influence but it was not under Russians rule.


Central Europe was also the Vassals of Mongols, if that's how your logic work than that means Central Europe was conquered by Mongolian.





That's true, but it was never 1500 years as you say, and not all of Southern Europe. Eastern Europe, or Iberia were conquered, just parts. For example, non-Europeans never conquered Italy, or Finland.

Moors 700 years
Arabs 150 years
Mongols 250 years
Ottoman 600 years.
Huns 50 years
Avars 200 years

Also the Kazakh Khanate and Nogai horde had raided East European slavic as slaves for nearly 150 years.

Shah-Jehan
08-12-2013, 12:23 AM
Nope, sorry these were all from Aryan India, created by Aryans, and Persians.
No, these were Arab-Indian inventions...

Smeagol
08-12-2013, 12:23 AM
British India didn't control all of India, it had several native states that were only suzerain to it...

Yes, they were still all under British control though, they were allowed domestic sovereignty.

Shah-Jehan
08-12-2013, 12:24 AM
Yes, they were still all under British control though, they were allowed domestic sovereignty.

The British only controlled their foreign policy, otherwise they were independent acting as vassals...

Smeagol
08-12-2013, 12:25 AM
No, these were Arab-Indian inventions...

Prove it. And if they were Arab inventions that would make sense. They were all made in ancient North India which was ruled by Aryans, and Persians. Dravidians didn't invent any of that.

ButlerKing
08-12-2013, 12:26 AM
India, then was only a region, depends which parts of India...

Dehli Sultanate a Turkic empire had ruled India for 250 years

http://www.lasalle.edu/~mcinneshin/251/wk04/images/Delhi_History_Map.png

Smeagol
08-12-2013, 12:26 AM
The British only controlled their foreign policy, otherwise they were independent acting as vassals...

It doesn't matter the British still basically controlled them. It was a similar situation to what the Mongols did with Russia.

Shah-Jehan
08-12-2013, 12:28 AM
Prove it. And if they were Arab inventions that would make sense. They were all made in ancient North India which was ruled by Aryans, and Persians. Dravidians didn't invent any of that.

Indians(both Indo-aryan and dravidian) had created these while, Arabs were known for modifying them to the current state...
If you want proof, read more about history...

Shah-Jehan
08-12-2013, 12:29 AM
It doesn't matter the British still basically controlled them. It was a similar situation to what the Mongols did with Russia.
Mongols never controlled Russia, it was the Golden Horde(tatars)...

Melina
08-12-2013, 12:30 AM
FTW mofos :cool:

:picard1: Why does it matter? I have yet seen a mixed civilization(White and black)who are prosperous.

ButlerKing
08-12-2013, 12:32 AM
You can learn everything in one day just like do.

Go to wikipedia " History of India " and it well tell you the no. of foreign empires it's been under. Most of the time it was North India and Pakistan under many invaders. ( Pakistan was part of India in the past)

It was under

Greek
Persian ( Acheamid and Sassanid )
Turkic ( Dehli Sultante
Mongol-Turkic Mughals and Timurid
British
French
Portugese
Arabs Abbasid caliphate
Whites Huns
Afghan Durrani empire
Mongol/Turkic Aghurn dynasty

ButlerKing
08-12-2013, 12:34 AM
Mongols never controlled Russia, it was the Golden Horde(tatars)...


Dude, Tatars were under the control of Mongols. Tatars was already conquered before Russia it became under Mongol rule.

Most of the soldiers of Golden horde were Kypchaks but the ruling class, commanders, generals, top seed, kings, queens, nobles were all Mongols and some of he Mongols soldiers all had control of the Golden horde.

Swearengen
08-12-2013, 12:34 AM
No, these were Arab-Indian inventions...

more like just arab inventions.

are you really trying to take credit for the decimal system or anything math related?

Smeagol
08-12-2013, 12:35 AM
I consider it more like a tribute state. The only colony of Europeans was HK and Macau, and these were areas that were almost non-inhabited in the past, those were areas under the rule of European empires.

Okay. Manchuria was also conquered by the Russians though in WW2.


Thailand was never conquered by European power before.

The Japanese conquered it in World War 2, and the Allies had to reconquer it.


Japan was only occupied in 1945 - 1952

Yes, we still conquered it though.


Korea wasn't conquered

Yes it was, It was occupied by both the Russians, and Americans.


Mongolian was under Russian influence but it was not under Russians rule.

True, but Mongolia would do what ever Russia told it to.


Central Europe was also the Vassals of Mongols, if that's how your logic work than that means Central Europe was conquered by Mongolian.

The Mongols never got to Central Europe.


Moors 700 years

True, but they lost North Spain much earlier than that.


Arabs 150 years

When was that?


Mongols 250 years

Okay.


Ottoman 600 years.

But they were losing territory in Europe the whole time.


Huns 50 years

Okay.


Avars 200 years

Okay.

Melina
08-12-2013, 12:35 AM
You can learn everything in one day just like do.

Go to wikipedia " History of India " and it well tell you the no. of foreign empires it's been under. Most of the time it was North India and Pakistan under many invaders. ( Pakistan was part of India in the past.

It was under

Greek
Persian ( Acheamid and Sassanid )
Turkic ( Dehli Sultante
Mongol-Turkic Mughals and Timurid
British
French
Portugese
Arabs Abbasid caliphate
Whites Huns
Afghan Durrani empire
Mongol/Turkic Aghurn dynasty
Wikipedia is not reliable. Is better to read PDF files on the internet written by historians.

Shah-Jehan
08-12-2013, 12:36 AM
more like just arab inventions.

are you really trying to take credit for the decimal system or anything math related?

Read more about the history of mathematics and yes, the numeral system originated there as well the decimal system...

Smeagol
08-12-2013, 12:37 AM
Indians(both Indo-aryan and dravidian) had created these while, Arabs were known for modifying them to the current state...
If you want proof, read more about history...

Name one Dravidian who created one of those things.

Swearengen
08-12-2013, 12:37 AM
Read more about the history of mathematics and yes, the numeral system originated there as well the decimal system...

looks like you are right. my friend lied to me. i'll be damned.

ButlerKing
08-12-2013, 12:37 AM
Wikipedia is not reliable. Is better to read PDF files on the internet written by historians.

Wikipedia is okay for general information though it can be bias sometimes.


Weather is wikipedia or not, search for any of those names who conquered India and it will pop up in articles either way.

Smeagol
08-12-2013, 12:38 AM
Read more about the history of mathematics and yes, the numeral system originated there as well the decimal system...

Again, this was when Aryans, and Persians ruled India. They probably created it, not Dravidians.

Shah-Jehan
08-12-2013, 12:38 AM
Name one Dravidian who created one of those things.

why are you so anti-Dravidian?

mr. logan
08-12-2013, 12:38 AM
Japan was conquered in the 19th century, when we forced our trade in with war ships. China too, conquered by opium commerce and communism. Now just a work camp. india was conquered by a lot for thousands of years. Malasia, Philippines by Spain. French occupation in se Asia.
The entrance of huns and mongols in Europe only happened in zones with little organized armies. Even collecting all that extra population, never made it in Europe.
Iberia was occupied by the fault of the Goth kings, not by a militar invasion per se.
Right now, Asia is under total control of the West. Daddy never explained you that if you wank too much, you get mad?

Smeagol
08-12-2013, 12:39 AM
Wikipedia is not reliable. Is better to read PDF files on the internet written by historians.

He's right though, all those people conquered India, or parts of India.

Swearengen
08-12-2013, 12:39 AM
Again, this was when Aryans, and Persians ruled India. They probably created it, not Dravidians.

this appears to be true as well.

Smeagol
08-12-2013, 12:40 AM
why are you so anti-Dravidian?

Don't change the subject.

Shah-Jehan
08-12-2013, 12:40 AM
Japan was conquered in the 19th century, when we forced our trade in with war ships. China too, conquered by opium commerce and communism. Now just a work camp. india was conquered by a lot for thousands of years. Malasia, Philippines by Spain. French occupation in se Asia.
The entrance of huns and mongols in Europe only happened in zones with little organized armies. Even collecting all that extra population, never made it in Europe.
Iberia was occupied by the fault of the Goth kings, not by a militar invasion per se.
Right now, Asia is under total control of the West. Daddy never explained you that if you wank too much, you get mad?
What about Turkey, Persia?

Tropico
08-12-2013, 12:43 AM
They Never have any info on Puerto Rico... :(

Smeagol
08-12-2013, 12:43 AM
What about Turkey, Persia?

Turkey was conquered in World War 1, and large parts of the Turkish Empire were conquered in the centuries before that by the Russians, and southeast Europeans. Persia was conquered by the Aryans, and occupied by Britain, and Russia in World War 2.

Shah-Jehan
08-12-2013, 12:44 AM
Turkey was conquered in World War 1, and large parts of the Turkish Empire were conquered in the centuries before that by the Russians, and southeast Europeans. Persia was conquered by the Aryans, and occupied by Britain, and Russia in World War 2.
Wrong, the allies fled out of Anatolia, occupation is not Conquering...

ButlerKing
08-12-2013, 12:45 AM
Okay. Manchuria was also conquered by the Russians though in WW2.



The Japanese conquered it in World War 2, and the Allies had to reconquer it.



Yes, we still conquered it though.



Yes it was, It was occupied by both the Russians, and Americans.



True, but Mongolia would do what ever Russia told it to.



The Mongols never got to Central Europe.



True, but they lost North Spain much earlier than that.



When was that?



Okay.



But they were losing territory in Europe the whole time.



Okay.



Okay.

Japan was occupied, defeated and surrendered but not conquered, the Japanese emperor was still kept well alive. But than again maybe you can say Japan was conquered.

But how the hell would anyone considered Korea and Thailand conquered by Allies? I don't think you will even find a article that claims that. Koreans and Thailand never signed humiliated request by European or gave rule to any European or American

And I never said central Europe was conquered, but if you claim China or Mongolia was conquered just because it was under some influence from European powers, than Central Europe who were the vassals of Golden horde qualifies being under Mongol rule, it makes even more sense.
http://www.diletant.ru/upload/iblock/718/7185546da551875aea9e7dcea9b5215d.jpg

Smeagol
08-12-2013, 12:48 AM
Japan was occupied and surrendered but not conquered, the Japanese emperor was still kept well alive. But maybe you can say Japan was conquered.

Japan lost the war, and they had to do what the allies say, and they were occupied until 1952 so yes they were conquered.


But how the hell would anyone considered Korea and Thailand conquered by Allies? I don't think you will even find a article that claims that. Koreans and Thailand never signed humiliated treated and gave rule to any European or American empire.

They were occupied by the Allies.


And I never said central Europe was conquered, but if you claim China or Mongolia was conquered just because it was under some influence from European powers, than Central Europe who were the vassals of Golden horde qualifies being under Mongol rule, it makes even more sense.

Which parts of Central Europe were vassals of the Golden Horde?

Smeagol
08-12-2013, 12:50 AM
Wrong, the allies fled out of Anatolia, occupation is not Conquering...

What are you talking about? the Allies beat Turkey, and occupied it, yes that's conquering.

Shah-Jehan
08-12-2013, 12:50 AM
What are you talking about? the Allies beat Turkey, and occupied it, yes that's conquering.

Then whole of Europe was conquered...

ButlerKing
08-12-2013, 12:52 AM
Japan was conquered in the 19th century, when we forced our trade in with war ships. China too, conquered by opium commerce and communism. Now just a work camp. india was conquered by a lot for thousands of years. Malasia, Philippines by Spain. French occupation in se Asia.
The entrance of huns and mongols in Europe only happened in zones with little organized armies. Even collecting all that extra population, never made it in Europe.
Iberia was occupied by the fault of the Goth kings, not by a militar invasion per se.
Right now, Asia is under total control of the West. Daddy never explained you that if you wank too much, you get mad?


I didn't know that Japan in 19th century signing some humiliating treaty qualifies being conquered?
I agree with India, Malaysia, Phillipines but I don't agree with Japan or China.

Can we say Persia and Afghanistan was conquered by Chinese during the Tang dynasty because it influence on them?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/af/%E5%94%90%E6%9C%9D%E7%96%86%E5%9F%9F%EF%BC%88%E7%A E%80%EF%BC%89.png

Smeagol
08-12-2013, 12:53 AM
Then whole of Europe was conquered...

No it wasn't. Britain, Ireland, France, Switzerland, Italy, Belgium, Luxemborg, Liechtenstein, Netherlands, Denmark, Germany, Sweden, Norway, Austria, Czech Republic, Slovakia, or Finland were never conquered by non-Europeans.

Smeagol
08-12-2013, 12:54 AM
And don't forget, Alexander the Great also conquered Persia.

Shah-Jehan
08-12-2013, 12:56 AM
No it wasn't. Britain, France, Switzerland, Italy, Belgium, Netherlands, Denmark, Germany, Sweden, Norway, Austria, Czech Republic, Slovakia, or Finland were never conquered by non-Europeans.
Britain conquered by Romans, Anglo-Saxons, Belgium and Netherlands former Spanish possessions, Finland Russian territory and on and on...

ButlerKing
08-12-2013, 12:58 AM
Japan lost the war, and they had to do what the allies say, and they were occupied until 1952 so yes they were conquered.

Everyone knows that, but Americans didn't rule the country the emperor was still during.

So in a way you can say Japan was conquered.




They were occupied by the Allies.

There is a difference between being conquered and occupied.

Japan was under American occupation and you're right Americans got to told them what to do but no way in hell that's the same for S.Korea or Thailand.

How the hell does this include S.Korea and Thailand? That's really stretching American had no control whatsover the only thing they had is a military base.




Which parts of Central Europe were vassals of the Golden Horde?

Poland, Slovakia, Czech republic, Slovakia

There was also lithuiana and estonia

Shah-Jehan
08-12-2013, 12:58 AM
And don't forget, Alexander the Great also conquered Persia.

He also discovered Africa remember:laugh:

Smeagol
08-12-2013, 12:58 AM
Britain conquered by Romans, Anglo-Saxons, Belgium and Netherlands former Spanish possessions, Finland Russian territory and on and on...

Are you retarded? I said never conquered by non-Europeans.

Shah-Jehan
08-12-2013, 01:00 AM
Are you retarded? I said never conquered by non-Europeans.

So now you're talking about continental Conquering? blunt hypocrisy...

Smeagol
08-12-2013, 01:01 AM
Everyone knows that, but Americans didn't rule the country the emperor was still during.

So in a way you can say Japan was conquered.

The Emperor was a puppet ruler, he controlled nothing.



There is a difference between being conquered and occupied.

Japan was under American occupation and you're right Americans got to told them what to do.

But how the hell does this include S.Korea and Thailand? That's really stretching American had no control whatsover the only thing they had is a military base.

Fine, but they did occupy Thailand, and Korea.




Poland, Slovakia, Czech republic, Slovakia

There was also lithuiana and estonia

I consider all these countries to be part of Eastern Europe, and the Mongols never even got to Slovakia, or the Czech Republic.

Smeagol
08-12-2013, 01:01 AM
So now you're talking about continental Conquering? blunt hypocrisy...

How is this hypocrisy?

SilverKnight
08-12-2013, 01:01 AM
:picard1: Why does it matter? I have yet seen a mixed civilization(White and black)who are prosperous.


Al tough lots variation from south to north, Brazil is mixed = prosperous and growing economically.. Cuba could have been prosperous if it weren't for Fidel, as well as DR is it wasn't for corruption.. Panama ha many black/ white mixes and they are prosperous.. you just hate us because you want it :laugh: .. Many mulattoes have become very successful, way more then what you have, so stfu and stop hating girl.

ButlerKing
08-12-2013, 01:02 AM
The Emperor was a puppet ruler, he controlled nothing.

He still ruled his country although American bossed him around.





Fine, but they did occupy Thailand, and Korea.

But you make it sound like as if that was ruling them, they were allies nothing more.






I consider all these countries to be part of Eastern Europe, and the Mongols never even got to Slovakia, or the Czech Republic.

If those countries are Eastern Europe what else is central Europe?

Shah-Jehan
08-12-2013, 01:02 AM
How is this hypocrisy?

You said India as well as other places were conquered over and over, these were Asians from Asia where India is located...

Swearengen
08-12-2013, 01:03 AM
Cuba isn't prosperous, but they're at least civilized. They don't look to be heavily SSA admixed though.

Not like Dominican Republic anyway. Coincidence?

Smeagol
08-12-2013, 01:04 AM
You said India as well as other places were conquered over and over, these were Asians from Asia where India is located...

It's different for India because even if the conquerors were from Asia they were of a different race. It was conquered by Europeans too though. Aryans, Greeks, and the British for example. The Portuguese, and French also conquered parts of India.

Smeagol
08-12-2013, 01:05 AM
Cuba isn't prosperous, but they're at least civilized. They don't look to be heavily SSA admixed though

About 40% of Cubans are White Spaniards anyway.

Shah-Jehan
08-12-2013, 01:05 AM
It's different for India because even if the conquerors were from Asia they were of a different race. It was conquered by Europeans too though. Aryans, Greeks, and the British for example.

Knew you'd say that:laugh: Hypocrite...

SilverKnight
08-12-2013, 01:07 AM
Cuba isn't prosperous, but they're at least civilized. They don't look to be heavily SSA admixed though.

Not like Dominican Republic anyway. Coincidence?


Idiot, you haven't been to Cuba it seems or been around them? Cubans are more whiter in overall population, but they still have many blacks and mulattoes and even white Cubans have African blood in them. Fucking ignorant.

Swearengen
08-12-2013, 01:08 AM
Idiot, you haven't been to Cuba it seems or been around them? Cubans are more whiter in overall population, but they still have many blacks and mulattoes and even white Cubans have African blood in them. Fucking ignorant.

lol calm down buddy. I know a lot of Cubans. They don't look black like Dominicans.

I wish Canada could trade all of its Dominican and Somali immigrants for Cubans.

Smeagol
08-12-2013, 01:09 AM
He still ruled his country although American bossed him around.

He did what America told him to do.



But you make it sound like as if that was ruling them, they were allies nothing more.

The Allies basically controlled them.


If those countries are Eastern Europe what else is central Europe?

For me it's Germany, Austria, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, and North Italy. Maybe Czech Republic, and Slovakia too, but again the Mongols never got there.

Smeagol
08-12-2013, 01:10 AM
Knew you'd say that:laugh: Hypocrite...

Sorry, I can't help it if the Asians who conquered India belonged to higher races.

Melina
08-12-2013, 01:10 AM
Al tough lots variation from south to north, Brazil is mixed = prosperous and growing economically.. Cuba could have been prosperous if it weren't for Fidel, as well as DR is it wasn't for corruption.. Panama ha many black/ white mixes and they are prosperous.. you just hate us because you want it :laugh: .. Many mulattoes have become very successful, way more then what you have, so stfu and stop hating girl.

Lol you don't know who you are talking to little boy.

SilverKnight
08-12-2013, 01:11 AM
Lol you don't know who you are talking to little boy.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_MmCE73bXk

:laugh:

ButlerKing
08-12-2013, 01:12 AM
I still don't agree with the Europeans conquered China, you can say you humiliated them, defeated them or even had some controlled of them but ruling or conquering is too big.

That's like saying the Manchus were ruling Afghanistan, Tajikistan, Uzbeks, Kazakhs, Nepal just because they were all forced to paid humiliating tributes to Manchus Qing dynasty especially the case of Nepal they were defeated and was forced to paid tribute. The territories that Manchus had ruled is only in the yellow colored not orange.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ca/Qing_Dynasty_1820.png

SilverKnight
08-12-2013, 01:13 AM
lol calm down buddy. I know a lot of Cubans. They don't look black like Dominicans.

I wish Canada could trade all of its Dominican and Somali immigrants for Cubans.


They don't we all know that but I also can tell you I knew many Cubans who did, I lived in Miami... A few friends don't = all of Cuba..

Btw even if Cuba recovered it will take them a long logn time to be like us economically, we're a Caribbean economic superpower inc comparison. :)

Smeagol
08-12-2013, 01:14 AM
I still don't agree with the Europeans conquered China, you can say you humiliated them, defeated them or even had some controlled of them but ruling or conquering is too big.

That's like saying the Manchus were ruling Afghanistan, Tajikistan, Uzbeks, Kazakhs, Nepal just because they were all forced to paid humiliating tributes to Manchus Qing dynasty especially the case of Nepal they were defeated and was forced to paid tribute. The territories that Manchus had ruled is only in the yellow colored not orange.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ca/Qing_Dynasty_1820.png

Fine, We conquered every country in Asia except China, but even there we conquered parts of it.

Shah-Jehan
08-12-2013, 01:15 AM
Fine, We conquered every country in Asia except China, but even there we conquered parts of it.
Who's this we? Americans?

Melina
08-12-2013, 01:15 AM
Idiot, you haven't been to Cuba it seems or been around them? Cubans are more whiter in overall population, but they still have many blacks and mulattoes and even white Cubans have African blood in them. Fucking ignorant.

Then they aren't white now are they. You don't know nothing about Cuba. I believe around 50% of Cubans that reside in Cuba are white. Spanish,Portuguese and Russian descendants. Very few mulatoes.

Smeagol
08-12-2013, 01:16 AM
Who's this we? Americans?

Europeans, and people of European descent, like Americans, and Canadians.

ButlerKing
08-12-2013, 01:17 AM
Fine, We conquered every country in Asia except China, but even there we conquered parts of it.

We conquered all Southeast Asia accept Thailand, North Korea, South Korea and Mongolia.

We also conquered only 0.0000000001% of China territory, occupied Japan.

Shah-Jehan
08-12-2013, 01:17 AM
Europeans, and people of European descent, like Americans, and Canadians.

You have Jewish ancestry though:tongue:

Melina
08-12-2013, 01:20 AM
They don't we all know that but I also can tell you I knew many Cubans who did, I lived in Miami... A few friends don't = all of Cuba..

Btw even if Cuba recovered it will take them a long logn time to be like us economically, we're a Caribbean economic superpower inc comparison. :)

You don't know what you are talking about. Cuba is fine. The education is free, so is their healthcare. As for you being Caribbean superpower you make me laugh. As far as I am concerned, the Bahama, Jamaica and Cuba are better economically than D.R. D.R is better than Haiti.

Smeagol
08-12-2013, 01:21 AM
You have Jewish ancestry though:tongue:

It doesn't show up in my phenotype though, and it's little enough to be considered Aryan in Nazi Germany (After 1942 Wannsee Conference)

Virtuous
08-12-2013, 01:21 AM
*signs in to see whats happening*

"oh."

*slowly walks out*

ButlerKing
08-12-2013, 01:22 AM
Map of the British empire

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/48/Map_of_the_British_Empire_in_the_1920's.png

Shah-Jehan
08-12-2013, 01:22 AM
It doesn't show up in my phenotype though, and it's little enough to be considered Aryan in Nazi Germany (After 1942 Wannsee Conference)

Not by the Nuremberg Laws...You'd be considered a Jew, whether part or full, so no...

Mark
08-12-2013, 01:22 AM
Then they aren't white now are they. You don't know nothing about Cuba. I believe around 50% of Cubans that reside in Cuba are white. Spanish,Portuguese and Russian descendants. Very few mulatoes.
I think the Cuban population of greater Miami identifies as 70% White, but I could be wrong on that figure.

Smeagol
08-12-2013, 01:22 AM
We conquered all Southeast Asia accept Thailand, North Korea, South Korea and Mongolia.

We also conquered only 0.0000000001% of China territory, occupied Japan.

Thailand, and Korea were occupied by the allies though, and Mongolia did what the Russians told it to.

Melina
08-12-2013, 01:24 AM
I think the Cuban population of greater Miami identifies as 70% White, but I could be wrong on that figure.

That is because most of the people that left Cuba in the 1950s where white. That is why most Cubans in Miami are white.

Smeagol
08-12-2013, 01:26 AM
Not by the Nuremberg Laws...You'd be considered a Jew, whether part or full, so no...

You know nothing about history. According to the Nuremburg Laws a Jew is someone with 3 or more Jewish grandparents, a person with one Jewish grandparent was not considered a Jew, but a 2nd degree Mischling. Later in 1942, they made new Laws for the Jews in the Wannsee Conference where Half Jews were to be considered Jews, and Quarter Jews were to be considered Aryans. Anyway, even full Jews cluster with Europeans. (South Italians)

Shkembe Chorba
08-12-2013, 01:26 AM
*signs in to see whats happening*

"oh."

*slowly walks out*
I though you were banned forever :(

ButlerKing
08-12-2013, 01:26 AM
Thailand, and Korea were occupied by the allies though, and Mongolia did what the Russians told it to.

They were never occupied as in being ruled, the thing is you make sound as if Americans were controlling them when they did not.

Name me one historian who would considered Thailand and S.Korea as some occupation of American rule like Japan? besides North Korea never had any Americans.

Shah-Jehan
08-12-2013, 01:27 AM
You know nothing about history. According to the Nuremburg Laws a Jew is someone with 3 or more Jewish grandparents, a person with one Jewish grandparent was not considered a Jew, but a 2nd degree Mischling. Later in 1942, they made new Laws for the Jews in the Wannsee Conference where Half Jews were to be considered Jews, and Quarter Jews were to be considered Aryans. Anyway, even full Jews cluster with Europeans.
How much of history did you know when you were in High school, Yankee?

Virtuous
08-12-2013, 01:29 AM
I though you were banned forever :(

Nah, just don't want to disturb y'all with my presence anymoar.

Smeagol
08-12-2013, 01:29 AM
They were never occupied as in being ruled, the thing is you make sound as if Americans were controlling them when they did not.

Yes, they were occupied by the Allies, but not for long like Japan.


Name me one historian who would considered Thailand and S.Korea as some occupation of American rule like Japan?

Every WW2 historian.


besides North Korea never had any Americans.

No, but it was occupied by the Russians.

Smeagol
08-12-2013, 01:29 AM
How much of history did you know when you were in High school, Yankee?

More than you do now.

Shah-Jehan
08-12-2013, 01:30 AM
More than you do now.

I am currently in high school:laugh:

SilverKnight
08-12-2013, 01:31 AM
You don't know what you are talking about. Cuba is fine. The education is free, so is their healthcare. As for you being Caribbean superpower you make me laugh. As far as I am concerned, the Bahama, Jamaica and Cuba are better economically than D.R. D.R is better than Haiti.


I'm done arguing with your pathetic ass. DR , I know that damn place from top to toe, so I 'm not making this shit up, the whole damn place has sooooo much potential and Dominicans that is not even funny, especially the younger generation know better! The economy is boosting rapidly, as well as more newer and diverse jobs, the GDP is one of the best in the regional and our GDP per capital is increasing along with it..Many Dominicans study abroad to come back to DR because they know of this potential and how the government is working to bring investors as well as to create business made in the country itself to give these students the opportunity to progress and make the country successful.

We also have massive gold reserves/ deposits, nickel and possibly massive natural gas and petroleum reserves as well!, once we have re-structured the educational system, infrastructure and health system as well as take advantage of the world's largest gold deposits and possible petroleum we will be unstoppable!, off course we must first ensure we nationalize as well.. Few decades from now you will look back and say, "he was right"..

End of story, done schooling you ;) long live DR b****
(Destroyed)

Smeagol
08-12-2013, 01:33 AM
I am currently in high school:laugh:

I knew more about history than you when I was in high school.

Shah-Jehan
08-12-2013, 01:34 AM
I knew more about history than you when I was in high school.

Atypical Yankee...

ButlerKing
08-12-2013, 01:34 AM
Yes, they were occupied by the Allies, but not for long like Japan.

You still don't understand. There was U.S army base in Thailand and S. Korea but you have not a single control on their government, their people or their sovereignty. The only thing you have is a U.S base and that is all, nothing less and nothing all.


If this is how your logic work,

Chinese in the past have occupied central Asia but did not ruled their people. Han Chinese dynasties in the past had threatened countries from Middle east, South Asia, Central Asia to paid tribute and establish relationship and had much economic control. Should they be considered under Chinese rule in the past? Should this also mean Chinese had conquered half of the world in the past?

As for Japan even though the emperor still directly rules the country with Americans get to tell them what to do. so that's as far you get




No, but it was occupied by the Russians.

Impossible, Japan already kicked Russia out of Manchuria, they didn't even conquered southern part of Manchuria to get to North Korea.

Swearengen
08-12-2013, 01:37 AM
why are you so concerned with history at age 15? go be a kid for christ's sake.

Shah-Jehan
08-12-2013, 01:39 AM
why are you so concerned with history at age 15? go be a kid for christ's sake.

It's summer now and I had a surgery, so, Can't do whatever I want...On a less serious note, I take Horatio as a role model, he being an atypical Yankee knew more about history at my age:laugh:

Melina
08-12-2013, 01:40 AM
I'm done arguing with your pathetic ass. DR , I know that damn place from top to toe, so I 'm not making this shit up, the whole damn place has sooooo much potential and Dominicans that is not even funny, especially the younger generation know better! The economy is boosting rapidly, as well as more newer and diverse jobs, the GDP is one of the best in the regional and our GDP per capital is increasing along with it..Many Dominicans study abroad to come back to DR because they know of this potential and how the government is working to bring investors as well as to create business made in the country itself to give these students the opportunity to progress and make the country successful.
No the economy is not boosting. If anything a lot of Dominicans that leave never come back. That is why your country is being infested by Haitians as we speak. Why don't you show evidence of what you speak? All you do is talk of what you feel is going on on. That doesn't necessarily mean it is fact.

Here is some evidence ignoramus.

http://www.heritage.org/index/country/dominicanrepublic


ackground

In May 2012, Danilo Medina, backed by three-term President Leonel Fernández’s center-left Dominican Liberation Party, was elected to succeed Fernández as president. Before the 2008–2009 global financial crisis, the Dominican Republic was enjoying a surge in economic growth led by tourism, telecommunications, and maquiladora manufacturing. The economy rebounded somewhat in 2010 and has continued to enjoy moderate growth aided by a $1.7 billion IMF standby agreement. The Central America–Dominican Republic–United States Free Trade Agreement has helped to boost investment and exports and minimize market-share losses to Asian textile manufacturers. Corruption, wasteful government spending, and unreliable electric service reduce investment returns, driving high unemployment.



We also have massive gold reserves/ deposits, nickel and possibly massive natural gas and petroleum reserves as well!, once we have re-structured the educational system, infrastructure and health system as well as take advantage of the world's largest gold deposits and possible petroleum we will be unstoppable!, off course we must first ensure we nationalize as well.. Few decades from now you will look back and say, "he was right"..

End of story, done schooling you ;) long live DR b****
(Destroyed)

You Dominican think way to highly of yourselves for a shitty country. If you guys have petroleum as you state then why do you guys need petroleum from Venezuela? hmmm?

Get the fuck out of here! Gold and Nickel? Oh are you talking about Barrick Gold inc. Your country is a joke.
The investors don't even take your government or people seriously.


The Dominican Government on Wednesday halted another precious metal shipment by Barrick Gold, just hours after offering the Canadian based minor a “final deal” to amend the contract for the mine at Pueblo Viejo.

The Customs Agency instructed its Punta Caucedo Port office at Las Americas Airport (AILA) to retain Barrick’s gold cargos until it reaches a new agreement with the Government.

The information was provided Wednesday morning at Las Americas, from where a detailed report was sent to president Danilo Medina on Tuesday, after inspections conducted on Barrick’s exports found alleged irregularities.

The Government reportedly instructed Customs to slap the mining company with more than US$96.0 million in fines for its doré shipments.

http://protestbarrick.net/article.php?id=896

Smeagol
08-12-2013, 01:41 AM
You still don't understand. There was U.S army base in Thailand and S. Korea but you have not a single control on their government, their people or their sovereignty. The only thing you have is a U.S base and that is all, nothing less and nothing all.

Alright fine, but the fact is Korea was part of the Japanese Empire, Thailand was a Japanese ally, and we defeated them.


If this is how your logic work,

Chinese in the past have occupied central Asia but did not ruled their people. Han Chinese dynasties in the past had threatened countries from Middle east, South Asia, Central Asia to paid tribute and establish relationship and had much economic control. Should be considered under their rule? Does this mean Chinese had conquered half of the world in the past?


Yes, it means China conquered them


As for Japan even though the emperor still directly rules the country with Americans get to tell them what to do. so that's as far you get


But the Americans were thinking about killing the Emperor. The only reason we didn't is because we didn't one the Japanese people to riot. Anyway, he was our puppet, and we controlled Japan.


Impossible, Japan already kicked Russia out of Manchuria, they didn't even conquered southern part of Manchuria to get to North Korea.

What are you talking about? Russia entered the Pacific War in 1945, and quickly conquered Manchuria, and North Korea.

ButlerKing
08-12-2013, 01:50 AM
Alright fine, but the fact is Korea was part of the Japanese Empire, Thailand was a Japanese ally, and we defeated them.

But Americans did not ruled S.Korea or Thailand :picard1:

Thailand was not the only ally of Japanese, the Vietnamese were aswell.




Yes, it means China conquered them

LOL brand new history, and people wondered why people Chinese didn't conquered of the world. Thanks to your new defination of what is conquered now they did.





But the Americans were thinking about killing the Emperor. The only reason we didn't is because we didn't one the Japanese people to riot. Anyway, he was our puppet, and we controlled Japan.

They didn't want to because the Japanese considered their emperor a God and would fight to the death so they kept him alive and and he still ruled Japan as a emperor.

Yeah, that's what I mean. You controlled Japan but not Korea and Thailand, their kings and queen were not your puppet, and their government and people was not under any of your control




What are you talking about? Russia entered the Pacific War in 1945, and quickly conquered Manchuria, and North Korea.


They simply invaded but did not conquered. I don't know how you study history man, your view of world history is amusing to me.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c1/Soviet_invasion_of_Manchuria_%281945%29.gif


Manchuria was more like sphere of influence rather than conquered. Many countries in the past was under the sphere of influence by Chinese but that was not considered conquest. All they had was economic, political, military control but it did ruled their land or their people.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6d/Russian_Empire_%28orthographic_projection%29.svg

Smeagol
08-12-2013, 01:58 AM
But Americans did not ruled S.Korea or Thailand :picard1:

Thailand was not the only ally of Japanese, the Vietnamese were aswell.

:picard1: The entire Japanese Empire was conquered and occupied. Vietnam was part of French Indochina.





LOL brand new history, and people wondered why people Chinese didn't conquered of the world. Thanks to your new defination of what is conquered now they did.

The Chinese conquered large parts of Asia yes.


They didn't want to because the Japanese considered their emperor a God and would fight to the death so they kept him alive and and he still ruled Japan as a emperor.

Yes they kept him alive, and technically he ruled Japan, but really he was just an American puppet.


Yeah, that's what I mean. You controlled Japan but not Korea and Thailand, their kings and queen were not your puppet, and their government and people was not under any of your control

But we defeated them, and occupied them for a short time.





They simply invaded but did not conquered. I don't know how you study history man, your view of world history is amusing to me.
Manchuria was more like sphere of influence rather than conquered.

Again, what are you talking about? When the Russians entered the war they defeated the Japanese in both Manchuria, and North Korea, they briefly occupied them.


Many countries in the past was under the sphere of influence by Chinese but that was not considered conquest. All they had was economic, political, military control but it did ruled their land or their people.

It was basically conquest.

ButlerKing
08-12-2013, 02:09 AM
:picard1: The entire Japanese Empire was conquered and occupied. Vietnam was part of French Indochina.


Not in Thailand, American presence in Thailand only started in Vietnam war.



The Chinese conquered large parts of Asia yes.

Your opinion




Yes they kept him alive, and technically he ruled Japan, but really he was just an American puppet.

I guess Jewish people are ruling American. After all America is just a puppet of the Jews.




But we defeated them, and occupied them for a short time.

Since when did you defeated Thailand and S.Korea?
Thailand never joined the Japanese in any war.







Again, what are you talking about? When the Russians entered the war they defeated the Japanese in both Manchuria, and North Korea, they briefly occupied them.

The United States and the Soviet Union agreed to temporarily occupy the country as a trusteeship with the zone of control demarcated along the 38th parallel. The purpose of this trusteeship was to establish a Korean provisional government which would become "free and independent in due course



It was basically conquest.

They kept their Independence under all those conditions they accepted.

Yes, I'm sure you will upset lot of Polish, Estonians, Czechs, Austria after all they were vassals of Mongolians

ButlerKing
08-12-2013, 02:13 AM
Welcome Celebration for Red Army in Pyongyang on 14 October 1945 :)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6c/Welcome_Celebration_for_Red_Army_in_Pyongyang2.JPG

Smeagol
08-12-2013, 02:16 AM
Not in Thailand, American presence in Thailand only started in Vietnam war.

Fine.



Your opinion

It's a fact. The Chinese conquered large parts of Asia.


I guess Jewish people are ruling American. After all America is just a puppet of the Jews.

No, but Jews have a lot of power.


Since when did you defeated Thailand and S.Korea?

Since they were occupied.


Thailand never joined the Japanese in any war.

Of course they did, they allied with them in World War 2.


The United States and the Soviet Union agreed to temporarily occupy the country as a trusteeship with the zone of control demarcated along the 38th parallel. The purpose of this trusteeship was to establish a Korean provisional government which would become "free and independent in due course

Exactly, but they were still defeated, and occupied for a short time.


They kept their Independence under all those conditions they accepted.

I know.


Yes, I'm sure you will upset lot of Polish, Estonians, Czechs, Austria after all they were vassals of Mongolians

The Mongols never got to the Czech Republic, or Austria, but Estonia, and Poland, yes.

ButlerKing
08-12-2013, 02:20 AM
Of course they did, they allied with them in World War 2.

They didn't fight the Americans or Europeans.



Exactly, but they were still defeated, and occupied for a short time.

Russians never defeated North Koreans, were the heck you got that from?



The Mongols never got to the Czech Republic, or Austria, but Estonia, and Poland, yes.

Unfortunately Czech was paying tribute to Mongols although they weren't vassals.

Smeagol
08-12-2013, 02:26 AM
They didn't fight the Americans or Europeans.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thailand_in_World_War_II


Russians never defeated North Koreans, were the heck you got that from?

No, Russia defeated the Japanese in North Korea.


Unfortunately Czech was paying tribute to Mongols although they weren't vassals.

True, but they never even battled the Mongols.

ButlerKing
08-12-2013, 02:29 AM
Horatio, you're clearly confused on something. You mistake occupation as some kind of military rule on the nation or the people.


RUSSIAN-NORTH KOREAN HISTORY

On August 9, 1945, the first Soviet military troops of the 25th Army arrived in North Korea with several influential Soviets officials including N.G. Levedev, Andrei Romaneko and Terentill Shtykov entered the Korean peninsula- the north Korean cities of Unggi (today Sonbong) and Rajin, and attacked Japanese resistance on August 10. After the Japanese surrender, the Soviet Union agreed a three-year Korean trusteeship.

ButlerKing
08-12-2013, 02:36 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thailand_in_World_War_II

That was under the Japanese pressure. It was not Thai people intention to fight against the allies besides there was barely any soldiers. It didn't even lasted properly they refused too. In 1942 Thailand started rebellion against the Japanese.



No, Russia defeated the Japanese in North Korea.

North Koreans are not Japanese :picard1:




True, but they never even battled the Mongols.

But they qualify being under rule much more than this 3 years of Russian-North Korean trusteeship

Smeagol
08-12-2013, 02:38 AM
Horatio, you're clearly confused on something. You mistake occupation as some kind of military rule on the nation or the people.

No, all I said was that Russia did occupy North Korea, but I know they were going to give them independence.

Smeagol
08-12-2013, 02:40 AM
That was under the Japanese pressure. It was not Thai people intention to fight against the allies besides there was barely any soldiers. It didn't even lasted properly they refused too. In 1942 Thailand started rebellion against the Japanese.

It doesn't matter. Thailand was still technically a Japanese ally.



North Koreans are not Japanese :picard1:

I know, I didn't say they were, all I said was the Russians occupied North Korea.




But they qualify being under rule much more than this 3 years of Russian-North Korean trusteeship

No, because they didn't even battle the Mongols, and anyway, North Korea was basically a Soviet puppet state anyway.

ButlerKing
08-12-2013, 02:43 AM
No, all I said was that Russia did occupy North Korea, but I know they were going to give them independence.

It was more like a friendship and trusting occupation between each other. The Koreans were communist themselves during this time, do you really think they would allow Russian to rule North Korean, I know said occupy but do not think for a second that Russians were controlling North Korean.

It is totally different from what you have in mind with the American occupation of Japan.

Smeagol
08-12-2013, 02:45 AM
It was more like a friendship and trusting occupation between each other. The Koreans were communist themselves during this time, do you really think they would allow Russian to rule North Korean, I know said occupy but do not think for a second that Russians were controlling North Korean.

It is totally different from what you have in mind with the American occupation of Japan.

The Russians technically didn't control North Korea, but it was basically a puppet state.

ButlerKing
08-12-2013, 02:48 AM
It doesn't matter. Thailand was still technically a Japanese ally.

No Europeans ever got the chance to defeat Thailand or it's army.



No, because they didn't even battle the Mongols, and anyway, North Korea was basically a Soviet puppet state anyway.

But they submitted to Mongol superiority

And no, only the U.S though the North Korea as soviet puppet state.

Shah-Jehan
08-12-2013, 02:49 AM
^ you two are both damn tired I bet:laugh:

Smeagol
08-12-2013, 03:00 AM
No Europeans ever got the chance to defeat Thailand or it's army.

Fine.


But they submitted to Mongol superiority

Because they didn't want to fight the Mongols.


And no, only the U.S though the North Korea as soviet puppet state.

Stalin could make the North Koreans do anything he wanted.

Wadaad
08-12-2013, 03:01 AM
Butlerking you are a generally successful troll, so it means you have small penis?

Scholarios
08-12-2013, 03:02 AM
It was more like a friendship and trusting occupation between each other. The Koreans were communist themselves during this time, do you really think they would allow Russian to rule North Korean, I know said occupy but do not think for a second that Russians were controlling North Korean.

It is totally different from what you have in mind with the American occupation of Japan.

Russia called the shots from the beginning and selected Kim Il Sung, they also purged several other choices. Later, Kim purged the Pro-Soviet Nodongmindang party members, but they were reinstated at the Soviets urging.

There is no comparison to the American occupation of Japan where U.S. forces act as the first defense of Japan, but after the decimation of the Korean People's Army in 1950-53 the Chinese and Soviets were the only defense of North Korea. Only difference is that it wasn't necessary to occupy them or put missiles there...Vladivostock was just as good.

Scholarios
08-12-2013, 03:05 AM
No Europeans ever got the chance to defeat Thailand or it's army.



But they submitted to Mongol superiority

And no, only the U.S though the North Korea as soviet puppet state.

The Thai Royal Army strategically defeated the Free French Colonials in 1941 which ended with the French ceding territory to Thailand from Indochine.

ButlerKing
08-12-2013, 03:05 AM
Because they didn't want to fight the Mongols.

Which is why out of cowardice they paid tribute same with other vassals and tribute state of Mongols

However only Russia, Ukraine, Romania, Mordolva, North Caucasus, Georgia were under Mongolian direct rule.



Stalin could make the North Koreans do anything he wanted.

But he didn't and that din't happen, like I said you're are stretching too much.

ButlerKing
08-12-2013, 03:09 AM
Russia called the shots from the beginning and selected Kim Il Sung, they also purged several other choices. Later, Kim purged the Pro-Soviet Nodongmindang party members, but they were reinstated at the Soviets urging.

There is no comparison to the American occupation of Japan where U.S. forces act as the first defense of Japan, but after the decimation of the Korean People's Army in 1950-53 the Chinese and Soviets were the only defense of North Korea. Only difference is that it wasn't necessary to occupy them or put missiles there...Vladivostock was just as good.

Russia called minor shots, there is political influence about who should be the but that's where it ends. There is no control of lands or direct rule of North Korean people. This is so insignificant.

Throughout August, Koreans organized the country into people's committee branches for the "Committee for the Preparation of Korean Independence" (CPKI, 조선건국준비위원회). The Soviet Army allowed for these committees to continue to function since they were friendly to the Soviet Union, but still established the Soviet Civil Authority to begin to centralize the independent committees.

Smeagol
08-12-2013, 03:10 AM
Which is why out of cowardice they paid tribute same with other vassals and tribute state of Mongols

However only Russia, Ukraine, Romania, Mordolva, North Caucasus, Georgia were under Mongolian direct rule.

I wouldn't call it cowardice, because they were smart enough to realize they couldn't win. Later the Russians would be the Europeans to defeat the Mongols.


But he didn't and that din't happen, like I said you're are stretching too much.

He obviously could.

Shah-Jehan
08-12-2013, 03:11 AM
Give it up you two, you're only tiring yourselves...Butrollking is a troll while Horatio is too stubborn, no point in arguing with each other...

ButlerKing
08-12-2013, 03:17 AM
I wouldn't call it cowardice, because they were smart enough to realize they couldn't win. Later the Russians would be the Europeans to defeat the Mongols.

It's cowardice because they feared Mongols would raid them or worst conquered them.


He obviously could.

Not when the U.S is in the south. They wouldn't want to provoke North Koreans they know their enemies were Americans.

Scholarios
08-12-2013, 03:17 AM
Russia called minor shots, there is political influence about who should be the but that's where it ends. There is no control of lands or direct rule of North Korean people. This is so insignificant.

Throughout August, Koreans organized the country into people's committee branches for the "Committee for the Preparation of Korean Independence" (CPKI, 조선건국준비위원회). The Soviet Army allowed for these committees to continue to function since they were friendly to the Soviet Union, but still established the Soviet Civil Authority to begin to centralize the independent committees.

It depends what you mean by "controlled the lands". Russia didn't colonize them or something, like sending colonists and genociding them--- neither did U.S. to Japan. But the Soviets, especially under Stalin called the shots in that country. Of course the dictatorship took on a character of it's own over time(heavily influenced by Soviet Personality Cults), but the fact that its economy was completely destroyed starting in the 1980's and continuing to the famine in the 90's illustrates precisely just how much of a puppet it was of the Soviets.

ButlerKing
08-12-2013, 03:21 AM
The Thai Royal Army strategically defeated the Free French Colonials in 1941 which ended with the French ceding territory to Thailand from Indochine.


Thailand was the conqueror of Indo-china ( Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos ), they used to rule those country before French took it aways from them

Smeagol
08-12-2013, 03:22 AM
It's cowardice because they feared Mongols would raid them or worst conquered them.

Yeah but it's not really cowardice they just didn't want that to happen.


Not when the U.S is in the south. They wouldn't want to provoke North Koreans they know their enemies were Americans.

Yes, they didn't want to provoke Americans, but they still basically controlled North Korea.

ButlerKing
08-12-2013, 03:23 AM
It depends what you mean by "controlled the lands". Russia didn't colonize them or something, like sending colonists and genociding them--- neither did U.S. to Japan. But the Soviets, especially under Stalin called the shots in that country. Of course the dictatorship took on a character of it's own over time(heavily influenced by Soviet Personality Cults), but the fact that its economy was completely destroyed starting in the 1980's and continuing to the famine in the 90's illustrates precisely just how much of a puppet it was of the Soviets.


Like I said, it was minor political influence and I wouldn't say calling the shots. If North Koreans communist were unhappy they would rebel immediately. Even Russians would not want to provoke North Koreans since Russians enemies are U.S

Fanime was even far more widespread in Russia than in North Korea.

Scholarios
08-12-2013, 03:26 AM
Thailand was the conqueror of Indo-china ( Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos ), they used to rule those country before French took it aways from them

Well, you said that a European Army never confronted them. They did, and more or less lost.

ButlerKing
08-12-2013, 03:28 AM
Yeah but it's not really cowardice they just didn't want that to happen.



Yes, they didn't want to provoke Americans, but they still basically controlled North Korea.

There you go again. Controlled North Korea? I didn't know such insignificant minor things = control

ButlerKing
08-12-2013, 03:28 AM
Well, you said that a European Army never confronted them. They did, and more or less lost.

I was referring during WW2, Thailand was never defeated or was under American or European rule.

Smeagol
08-12-2013, 03:30 AM
There you go again. Controlled North Korea? I didn't know such insignificant minor things = control

Well basically, North Korea was just like Mongolia for the Soviets.

Scholarios
08-12-2013, 03:30 AM
Like I said, it was minor political influence and I wouldn't say calling the shots. If North Koreans communist were unhappy they would rebel immediately. Even Russians would not want to provoke North Koreans since Russians enemies are U.S

Fanime was even far more widespread in Russia than in North Korea.

The North Koreans invaded the South when they got permission from Stalin. The Korean People's Army was decimated and Stalin called off the "liberation" of the South so as to preserve Russian lives. All of North Korean history is a footnote to those two facts.

North Korea was never self-sufficient, North Korea could never stand on their own. the North was constantly asking the Warsaw Pact for money and material.

ButlerKing
08-12-2013, 03:34 AM
Chinese are ruling America

Let's not forget Americans were forced to permit Chinese workers and Chinese companies into their country. Also Chinese are Americans largest foreign investers

Also Chinese can devalue the dollar anytime, so Americans need to listen to China because their calling their shots.

ButlerKing
08-12-2013, 03:39 AM
The North Koreans invaded the South when they got permission from Stalin. The Korean People's Army was decimated and Stalin called off the "liberation" of the South so as to preserve Russian lives. All of North Korean history is a footnote to those two facts.

North Korea was never self-sufficient, North Korea could never stand on their own. the North was constantly asking the Warsaw Pact for money and material.

Is that it?

It seems extremely insignificant to me. So Stalin had the most power in Korean regime, he was like a leader but that's where it ends.

He has no control over North Koreans independence or sovereignty.

ButlerKing
08-12-2013, 03:43 AM
U.S bridges being build by Chinese firms


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcPnDigSu2M


American selling work to Chinese instead of Americans


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grQTuIYnreg

Scholarios
08-12-2013, 03:46 AM
http://www.freedominapuritanage.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/1302873052100.jpg

ButlerKing
08-12-2013, 03:50 AM
http://www.freedominapuritanage.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/1302873052100.jpg

Don't you know " China makes US economy its hostage "


47 Signs That China Is Absolutely Destroying America On The Global Economic Stage
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/47-signs-that-china-is-absolutely-destroying-america-on-the-global-economic-stage

Scholarios
08-12-2013, 03:50 AM
http://www.freedominapuritanage.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/1302873052100.jpg

ButlerKing
08-12-2013, 03:52 AM
Chinese called obama monkey
Chinese told America not to support Tibet or Fa lung gung and they listened
Chinese forced American to give work and firms in U.S






http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0-VivINvMI

Scholarios
08-12-2013, 03:56 AM
I have spent too much time on mentally deficient posters such as yourself. Taking a look at your first post in the thread reminds me of that now. Toxic thread.

ButlerKing
08-12-2013, 03:56 AM
OBAMA GAVE CHINA PERMISSION TO iNVADE THE UNITED STATES FROM THE PACIFIC OCEAN WHEN THE DOLLAR DIES


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8wiJeUH6bU

ButlerKing
08-12-2013, 03:57 AM
I have spent too much time on mentally deficient posters such as yourself. Taking a look at your first post in the thread reminds me of that now. Toxic thread.

Dude, what more do you want. China is controlling U.S economically and politically, it's only in militarily they don't. Don't you know the damage the Chinese can cause to Americans if they don't listen to them?

Shah-Jehan
08-12-2013, 03:58 AM
That my fellas is obvious trolling^:laugh:

Melina
08-12-2013, 03:59 AM
OBAMA GAVE CHINA PERMISSION TO iNVADE THE UNITED STATES FROM THE PACIFIC OCEAN WHEN THE DOLLAR DIES


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8wiJeUH6bU

With all the debt we have it wouldn't surprise me. But seriously why would they tell them to invade that way. It sounds dumb.

ButlerKing
08-12-2013, 04:03 AM
With all the debt we have it wouldn't surprise me. But seriously why would they tell them to invade that way. It sounds dumb.


The red communist flag rolls over the U.S White house.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9P53UFVm2-k

ButlerKing
08-12-2013, 04:06 AM
Chinese Government is calling Obama ‘MONKEY MAN’!(Not because he's black, but because monkeys are treated/controlled 'like puppets' in China)


"Chinese Government is calling Obama ‘MONKEY MAN’!" VIDEO AT THIS LINK http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2013/01/chinas-monkey-man-2546300.html

Melina
08-12-2013, 04:07 AM
The red communist flag rolls over the U.S White house.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9P53UFVm2-k

To be honest I don't really care what happens to the U.S.

Shah-Jehan
08-12-2013, 04:10 AM
To be honest I don't really care what happens to the U.S.
Not a patriot:picard2:

ButlerKing
08-12-2013, 04:13 AM
To be honest I don't really care what happens to the U.S.

Don't surprise me, most people don't like U.S much.

Melina
08-12-2013, 04:16 AM
Not a patriot:picard2:

The U.S is a wounded dog that needs to be put to sleep.