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Szegedist
08-21-2013, 12:00 PM
A left-wing analyst says the protagonists of last week’s angry exchanges all need the conflict to boost their own political plans, but transborder Hungarians in Romania are the ones who will suffer. A liberal columnist, on the other hand, criticizes MSZP leader Attila Mesterházy for reacting to Băsescu’s statement with outrage instead of regarding it as a criticism aimed at PM Orbán. A centre-right columnist from Romania finds it strange that other transborder Hungarians, such as the Hungarians of Slovakia, are much less concerned with their own minority status than Hungarians in Transylvania.



Traian Băsescu’s declaration that Fidesz may not be allowed to hold its traditional Summer Free University in Romania, followed a statement by PM Orbán’s ally, MEP László Tőkés who called for a formal “protective status for Hungary” over Transylvanian Hungarians. Băsescu’s statement surprised most analysts as the Romanian president enjoyed Viktor Orbán’s vocal support last year when he was under attack from Socialist PM Victor Ponta. See BudaPost August 14 and August 13.

In Népszabadság, Levente Szőcs thinks harsh language on all sides is prompted by political pragmatism. President Băsescu may want to organize a new political party after his second term as president expires, since his Democratic Liberal Party has lost most of its constituency. Stirring up nationalist sentiments may seem a useful tool to that end, Szőcs believes, and finds the reaction from the Hungarian government surprisingly subdued, especially in contrast to the rebuttals aimed at PM Ponta for each of his (much less harsh) remarks. As for László Tőkés MEP, he is unlikely to win another mandate on the list of the main party of Hungarians in Romania, since he has set up a new rival right-wing force since then. Szőcs thinks Băsescu cannot hurt Hungarians in Romania right now but PM Ponta does have a few cards up his sleeve, like the regional reform plans which envisage the merger of counties into larger units in a way which would engulf the two Hungarian majority counties into separate (Romanian dominated) regions – or a ban on Hungarian financial support to organizations in Romania. Whatever comes next, transborder Hungarians are likely to suffer, he concludes.

In his Magyar Narancs blog, György C. Kálmán characterizes Attila Mesterházy’s reactions to the diplomatic skirmishes as those of “an automaton”. Kálmán thinks the Socialist leader reacts to criticism directed at “anything Hungarian” with the obligatory outrage over ethnic oppression, even though Băsescu’s words were directed at the performance of PM Orbán and his allies at their Summer University in Transylvania. Even worse than this automatic response, continues Kálmán, is the fact that Mesterházy’s “automaton is never switched off” – he goes ahead with the pre-programmed outrage even when silence would be much preferable.

In Heti Válasz, Szilárd Demeter gives the perspective of a Romanian Hungarian on such summer camps. For transborder Hungarians, he says, summer festivals and camps such as the famous Free University are essential building blocks of (cultural) identity. But even though such events are organized in most countries with Hungarian minority groups, these groups rarely meet one another. The “single Hungarian nation” (i.e. the community of ethnic Hungarians within and outside Hungary’s borders) he writes, is still organized from Budapest and minority Hungarians mostly learn about each other through the international press. Demeter, who comes from the Szekler area with a large Hungarian speaking majority, describes how surprised he was to discover that Slovakian Hungarians are far less concerned with the public use of their mother tongue – they simply prefer to avoid certain conflicts, he concludes.

http://budapost.eu/2013/08/romanian-hungarian-relations-at-record-low/

Szegedist
08-21-2013, 12:02 PM
Romanian ambassador summoned by Foreign Ministry


State Secretary of Foreign Affairs Zsolt Nemeth on Thursday summoned Romanian Ambassador to Hungary Victor Micula to reject in a verbal statement what Romanian Foreign Minister Titus Corlatean had said in Izvoru Muresului (Marosfo) on Tuesday and in a recent interview to Romanian daily Gandul.

Nemeth firmly rejected Corlatean’s accusation that Hungary’s law on national cohesion contains a Hungarian strategy to “reconquer the Carpathian Basin” and aims “to question the Versailles peace treaties”. “The text of the law contains just the opposite,” the state secretary said.

The ministry also rejected the Romanian minister’s remark about Hungary’s citizenship law, according to which Hungary’s practice of naturalisation was based on ethnic principles.

In reality, Nemeth said, the Hungarian practice, similarly to the Romanian one, only requires applicants to have a command of Hungarian language and a Hungarian citizen in the bloodline.

The “unfounded conclusions” are suitable for slandering Hungary and intimidating ethnic Hungarians in Romania, Nemeth said, adding that the democratically declared endeavours of Romania’s Hungarian community, including its claim for autonomy, are legitimate and comply with the European and international practice and norms.

The state secretary told the ambassador that Hungary continues to be committed to developing relations with Romania on the basis of a sincere and objective dialogue.



http://www.politics.hu/20130816/romanian-ambassador-summoned-by-foreign-ministry/

Kiyant
08-21-2013, 12:03 PM
Romania fears that the Szekler want to be a part of Hungary so he wants to rise the tension so he can discriminate them and make himself look like the right one.

Szegedist
08-21-2013, 02:43 PM
Basescu used to be a friend of Orban. In fact, Orban helped him staying in power by telling the Hungarians in Transylvania to not to vote in the referendum.

Now, Bascescu turned his back and started attacking Orban, to pickup nationalist votes.

This proves, that you can simply never trust a Romanian.

Pro_Patria
08-22-2013, 02:05 AM
Booohooo all you Hungarians know how to do is to victimize themselves and to cry rivers of tears. All I have to say is after the shit you did to us, you are getting much better than you deserve.

And death to Basescu.

Szegedist
08-22-2013, 11:45 AM
All the shit you did to us

You mean tried to civilize you, and introduce you to high culture?

Pro_Patria
08-22-2013, 05:14 PM
You mean tried to civilize you, and introduce you to high culture?

Here come the Magyars, prepare to be cultured.

A culture of looting and rape maybe.

Szegedist
08-22-2013, 06:38 PM
Here come the Magyars, prepare to be cultured.

A culture of looting and rape maybe.

Being a Romanian is synonymous with being a gypsy, a beggar, a thief, a liar, a coward, a traitor.

Rape and looting is something that isn't known for Hungarians. We never did it, unlike the Romanians which loot all they can get their filthy hands on!

You even tried to loot museums!

Pro_Patria
08-22-2013, 07:14 PM
Being a Romanian is synonymous with being a gypsy, a beggar, a thief, a liar, a coward, a traitor.

Rape and looting is something that isn't known for Hungarians. We never did it, unlike the Romanians which loot all they can get their filthy hands on!

Never did it? Try Pannonia. Ring a bell? ;)

Szegedist
08-22-2013, 07:46 PM
Never did it? Try Pannonia. Ring a bell? ;)

Please post me information about how we "looted and raped" people.

Szegedist
08-22-2013, 09:59 PM
And death to Basescu.

Whats the matter Tiganescu, Basescu's cheap provocation of Hungarians is not enough to secure your vote or what? :))))

Isn't that all Romanians look for in a leader, to provoke Hungarians?

Szegedist
08-31-2013, 07:16 PM
http://cdn.citynews.ro/sites/default/files/styles/442x293/public/www/articole/federatia-maghiara-cere-pedepsirea-rapidistilor-care-au-incendiat-steagul-maghiar-la-cluj1363772355.jpg

Hey tiganescu remove that signature.

The ugly Rumanian flag (which looks like cheap version of LGBT logo) is not fit for me to wipe my ass with it, while you should not be burning the flag of a people who are your superiors in every way.

The primitiveness of your tribe of goatf...kers shows once again.

Vlach
11-30-2013, 11:59 AM
Hey tiganescu remove that signature.

The ugly Rumanian flag (which looks like cheap version of LGBT logo) is not fit for me to wipe my ass with it, while you should not be burning the flag of a people who are your superiors in every way.

The primitiveness of your tribe of goatf...kers shows once again.

Superior at what? Stealing,crying and bitching?

http://www.napocanews.ro/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/afis-ungaria-romania.jpg
Mongolian mentality ^^^^^^