Classify half german/half swede

[BritishRacingGreen]

I'm not sure in what country I could fit:

http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx68/febgb/Classification3_zps9496fa20.jpg (http://s742.photobucket.com/user/febgb/media/Classification3_zps9496fa20.jpg.html)

http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx68/febgb/classfication1_zps6b5abe1f.jpg (http://s742.photobucket.com/user/febgb/media/classfication1_zps6b5abe1f.jpg.html)

http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx68/febgb/classification2_zps92843d7e.jpg (http://s742.photobucket.com/user/febgb/media/classification2_zps92843d7e.jpg.html)

[Ianus]

Nordic

[Zmey Gorynych]

Atlantid ... not what I'd expect from a germna/swedish mix.

[Roy]

Hallstatt Nordid with brown eyes so Atlantid also makes sense.

[Smeagol]

North Atlantid.

[FrostDragon]

Hallstatt Nordid.

Agreed, you look like what you are.

[King Claus]

probably slightly atlanticized tronder

[Zmey Gorynych]

probably slightly atlanticized tronder
not the slightest sign of CM in this individual, he's so neolithic it hurts my eyes

[Virtuous]

Nordid-Atlanto-Med.

[King Claus]

not the slightest sign of CM in this individual, he's so neolithic it hurts my eyes

tronders are not robust, they look intermediate, so if you add atlantid there isn't much cro magnon left indeed:)

[Übermensch]

Darq Halstatt.

[BritishRacingGreen]

Not sure if it's that relevant, but I've attached a picture of my eyes as well:

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[Roy]

not the slightest sign of CM in this individual, he's so neolithic it hurts my eyes

It also drew my attention as well; I find it a little bit surprising taking into consideration that he is half-German.

[Roy]

Not sure if it's that relevant, but I've attached a picture of my eyes as well:

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They are round and of mixed brown-gray colours.

[King Claus]

people here don't understand that hallstat nordids are more gracile than presented on this forum :)

[Zmey Gorynych]

people here don't understand that hallstat nordids are more gracile than presented on this forum :)
If you go by the books of old anthropologists hallstat nordids are robust and from the greater mediterranean branch are second only to east-nordids. The OP is very gracile and has the suaveness of a mediterranean, might be also because he's very young ...

[King Claus]

If you go by the books of old anthropologists hallstat nordids are robust and from the greater mediterranean branch are second only to east-nordids. The OP is very gracile and has the suaveness of a mediterranean, might be also because he's very young ...

his lips are intrestingly big

[BritishRacingGreen]

his lips are intrestingly big

As I'm new in this field, what indications could that be?

[King Claus]

As I'm new in this field, what indications could that be?

that mostly comes from exotic hominids

[BritishRacingGreen]

not the slightest sign of CM in this individual, he's so neolithic it hurts my eyes

Is that in some way unusual?

[Peikko]

Noric

[gold_fenix]

that mostly comes from exotic hominids

Well i think their lips aren't extrange for Northern European, we should to ask to Sweedish here for example, for other side your skull is the shape of a nordid type but is shorter should be in a nordid, i doubt in this thing for you have a clasification of nordid, shorter skull for a nordid, your german side comes from the SW of Germany?

[Heiden]

Nordomediterranid, so Atlantid.

[BritishRacingGreen]

Well i think their lips aren't extrange for Northern European, we should to ask to Sweedish here for example, for other side your skull is the shape of a nordid type but is shorter should be in a nordid, i doubt in this thing for you have a clasification of nordid, shorter skull for a nordid, your german side comes from the SW of Germany?

Mostly from south-western Germany, yes that's correct.

[sevruk]

med+nordid

[gold_fenix]

Mostly from south-western Germany, yes that's correct.

then as i thought, you are a mix of nordid and a local med type who is found in that zone of Germany

[Freeroostah]

Nordic

[BritishRacingGreen]

then as i thought, you are a mix of nordid and a local med type who is found in that zone of Germany

Do you mean as in the region of Baden-Württemberg?

[gold_fenix]

yes, that zone

[Insuperable]

Nordid + Atlantomed

[ramon]

Nordid with some Faelid. Very good-looking individual.

[MelinusMargos]

Nordo-Med with corded features. Not pred. nordid. What's your height? Do you look more like your German side or Swedish side? I get a slight scando vibe only on your profile pics. I think you would fit here with no problems. You don't look that anomalous except for the corded imput which is not very common here.

[MelinusMargos]

Basically a slightly sharper version of Wesley Crusher from Star Trek lol

http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/26100000/wesley-wesley-crusher-26148800-694-530.jpg

[Dombra]

über mensch

[mr. logan]

Subnordic kelt.

[BritishRacingGreen]

Nordo-Med with corded features. Not pred. nordid. What's your height? Do you look more like your German side or Swedish side? I get a slight scando vibe only on your profile pics. I think you would fit here with no problems. You don't look that anomalous except for the corded imput which is not very common here.

I'm around 5'9, so not especially tall for a swede unfortunately. Actually I look more like my swedish side in regards to facial features, but received the pigmentation (eyes and hair color) and eye shape from my german side.

[Sarmatian]

Atlantid. There are no CM nor Dinaric (aka Noric or Keltic) admixtures in this individual.

[Útrám]

Atlantic + Hallstatt = "Atlanstatt"?

[MelinusMargos]

I'm around 5'9, so not especially tall for a swede unfortunately. Actually I look more like my swedish side in regards to facial features, but received the pigmentation (eyes and hair color) and eye shape from my german side.

Yes, I think my classification makes sense then(the height is not a 100%garantee on types but still it can be a good indication), You have hybrid features between gracilized med types and corded nordid types, basically corded nordo-med. Not atlantid because your nordid/med mixture doesn't look stabilyzed: light hair and dark eyes, corded features and gracilized features coesisting. Atlantids tend to be tall and black/dark brown haired with more leptomorphic features and smaller forehead. I hope I've been helpful.
I guess your swedish side isn't far from looking like this guy.
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o21/Kadu_album/39_1-2.jpg

[BritishRacingGreen]

Yes, I think my classification makes sense then(the height is not a 100%garantee on types but still it can be a good indication), You have hybrid features between gracilized med types and corded nordid types, basically corded nordo-med. Not atlantid because your nordid/med mixture doesn't look stabilyzed: light hair and dark eyes, corded features and gracilized features coesisting. Atlantids tend to be tall and black/dark brown haired with more leptomorphic features and smaller forehead. I hope I've been helpful.
I guess your swedish side isn't far from looking like this guy.
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o21/Kadu_album/39_1-2.jpg

This is how my swedish father looked when he was my age:

http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx68/febgb/febgb_zpscbeb56f6.jpg (http://s742.photobucket.com/user/febgb/media/febgb_zpscbeb56f6.jpg.html)

Somewhat darker in hair pigmentation than me, but with blue eyes.

I guess there's some slight resemblance to the type you posted

[Sikeliot]

Atlanto-Nordid. All Nordids do not have to be blue eyed blonde...

[WOOHP]

Atlantid + Nordid, you're not atypical at all, but your father that's not a familiar face to me. You kinda resemble French youtuber Jerome Jarre but you have sharper features.

Var någonstans är din svenska sida från?

[BritishRacingGreen]

Atlantid + Nordid, you're not atypical at all, but your father that's not a familiar face to me. You kinda resemble French youtuber Jerome Jarre but you have sharper features.

Var någonstans är din svenska sida från?

I can see what you mean :D

Huvudsakligen från Blekinge län i sydöstra Sverige:

http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx68/febgb/blekinge_zpsa95f7fef.jpg (http://s742.photobucket.com/user/febgb/media/blekinge_zpsa95f7fef.jpg.html)

[BritishRacingGreen]

not the slightest sign of CM in this individual, he's so neolithic it hurts my eyes

Do you base this upon the lack of a sharp chin and jawbone?

[BritishRacingGreen]

Atlantic + Hallstatt = "Atlanstatt"?

Maybe a new term? ;)

[MelinusMargos]

This is how my swedish father looked when he was my age:
Somewhat darker in hair pigmentation than me, but with blue eyes.
I guess there's some slight resemblance to the type you posted

From a craniometrical perspective he shares many features with the Corded nordid I posted. Very indoeuropean/neolithic looking.
Thanks for posting and welcome to this forum. :)

[MelinusMargos]

Do you base this upon the lack of a sharp chin and jawbone?

A good way to know if you are CM influenced is to measure your bigonial, bizygomatic, head breath and height. I can't see any CM influence on you. Generally CMs look bigger in most features, especially on width.

[Not a Cop]

From a craniometrical perspective he shares many features with the Corded nordid I posted. Very indoeuropean/neolithic looking.
Thanks for posting and welcome to this forum. :)

Actually i have to disagree with you i cant track any corded on him, cordeds are usually robust and tall, while this guy is gracile

For classification Atlanto-Nordid

[Sarmatian]

From a craniometrical perspective he shares many features with the Corded nordid I posted. Very indoeuropean/neolithic looking.
Thanks for posting and welcome to this forum. :)

You can't really talk about craniometrical perspective without having results of exact measurements at hands. Nordid and Med will share many cranial parameters proportion-wise but will differ significantly in absolute sizes.

So in this case we can only judge by degree of his robustness. And since he have none of it he can't really be anywhere near Corded, way too gracile for that.

[BritishRacingGreen]

Anyone else who has an opinion?

[Übermensch]

Atlantomed with corded nordic influence, would pass in many western european countries.
Atypical for a Scandinavian as they tend to be more rugged,ruddy and robust and more CM looking, but that can be explained by the German part, your scandinavian admixture is clear in your head/forehead height.
This is a more typical Scando appearance:

http://cdn.themis-media.com/media/global/images/galleries/display/59/59726.jpg
http://a.abcnews.com/images/International/ap_anders_breivik_jp_120824_wg.jpg
http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/7712/soldatp.jpg

[BritishRacingGreen]

Atlantomed with corded nordic influence, would pass in many western european countries.
Atypical for a Scandinavian as they tend to be more rugged,ruddy and robust and more CM looking, but that can be explained by the German part, your scandinavian admixture is clear in your head/forehead height.
This is a more typical Scando appearance:

http://cdn.themis-media.com/media/global/images/galleries/display/59/59726.jpg
http://a.abcnews.com/images/International/ap_anders_breivik_jp_120824_wg.jpg
http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/7712/soldatp.jpg

Actually, I've rarely seen these types in Sweden.

[Hadouken]

alpinized nordid

[Übermensch]

Actually, I've rarely seen these types in Sweden.

Most Scandos i've meet looked similar.

[WOOHP]

Most Scandos i've meet looked similar.

Breivik and the third guy maybe. But the first one most definitely not. Ugly Scandos(the few ones :P) do not look like that.

[Übermensch]

Breivik and the third guy maybe. But the first one most definitely not. Ugly Scandos(the few ones :P) do not look like that.

His colouring and bone structure is common he is just obese.

[BritishRacingGreen]

Most Scandos i've meet looked similar.

The third is the most common out of these three. But I've never seen a swede who looks like Breivik. His face just screams norwegian :P

[BritishRacingGreen]

alpinized nordid

Where do you see the alpine traits?

[Swearengen]

people here don't understand that hallstat nordids are more gracile than presented on this forum :)

I agree. They are highly romanticized on the internet.

[Hadouken]

Where do you see the alpine traits?

his head shape and length seems nordid/alpining mix to me and his pigmentation :p

i am pretty new to this classification thing so just to let you know :D

[Smeagol]

I agree. Actually nordids in general are quite slight looking. Weak-ish features, average height or often short, skinny. They are highly romanticized on the internet.

Nordics are supposed to be tall.

[Smeagol]

Actually, I've rarely seen these types in Sweden.

Most Scandinavians are a mix of Aryan, and CM.

[Swearengen]

Nordics are supposed to be tall.

they aren't. they're just average height. cromagnids (especially borrebys) are tall.

[Roy]

they aren't. they're just average height. cromagnids (especially borrebys) are tall.

There are not significant differences in height between European races. Only Dinarids are supposed to be taller than average and Alpinoids to be shorter and it usually looks like that.

[Smeagol]

they aren't. they're just average height. cromagnids (especially borrebys) are tall.


The typical Hallstatt Nordid is a leptosome - tall and lean, with relatively long legs and a short body, moderately broad shoulders and relatively short arms. The impression is of a long and slender type

[Swearengen]

There are not significant differences in height between European races. Only Dinarids are supposed to be taller than average and Alpinoids to be shorter and it usually looks like that.

in general I agree, except that cromagnids are taller.

[Smeagol]

in general I agree, except that cromagnids are taller.

Yeah, Cromagnids are the tallest.

[Roy]

Breivik and the third guy maybe. But the first one most definitely not. Ugly Scandos(the few ones :P) do not look like that.

Breivik looks distinctly Norwegian.

[Swearengen]

those anthro texts are so sensationalist and ridiculous with their adjectives.

5'10" (average nordid height) - tall
5'9" (average alpine height) - short

In my experience nordids are no taller than anyone else. Actually many of them are short.

[Pleurat]

Balkan dinarids of pure form and Balkan dinarids mixed with CM are the tallest ones.

[Roy]

in general I agree, except that cromagnids are taller.

You're probably right. :)
Very gracile features more often come out with reduced height; with Cromagnoids this is the opposite,

[Swearengen]

borrebys are tallest.

[Pleurat]

no, I have seen hundreds of short or medium height borrebys

[Swearengen]

I'm talking about proper northern european borrebys not what you guys call balkan borreby.

[Roy]

borrebys are tallest.

Danes and Dutch are among the tallest Europeans and this phenotype is very common there but I rather don't link phenotype to height and the other way around.

[Ozzy]

in general I agree, except that cromagnids are taller.

I doubt that there's any correlation, or else all of the CM people would be taller than me. If anything, typically skinny long-limbed Dinaric looking individuals are the tallest that I see in public.

I think that the head/facial features are way more important in classifying.

[Swearengen]

Danes and Dutch are among the tallest Europeans and this phenotype is very common there but I rather don't link phenotype to height and the other way around.

I never thought much about it before. But I've been observing height and phenotype lately and it seems like the average borreby is 6'2" and they are highly overrepresented in people 6'4"+.

[Ozzy]

I'm talking about proper northern european borrebys not what you guys call balkan borreby.

It's probably because they're Scandinavian rather than the fact that they have the physical traits of what we call a "Borreby".. It's a genetic crap shoot, really. They probably could've grown up to look "Nordid" or "Baltid" with the same height.

[Pleurat]

The dutch were some of the midgets of europe in the beginning of 1900s.....

[Swearengen]

It's probably because they're Scandinavian rather than the fact that they have the physical traits of what we call a "Borreby".. It's a genetic crap shoot, really. They probably could've grown up to look "Nordid" or "Baltid" with the same height.

The borrebys here are probably german, british, or dutch. And born and raised in Canada. We don't have many scandos.

[Ozzy]

The borrebys here are probably german, british, or dutch. And born and raised in Canada. We don't have many scandos.

I don't know what it is, really. I just don't associate them with super tall people. The tallest person I know is stereotypical Keltic Nordid/(arguably just a Nordid) with a long skull and a gracefully-positioned chin like BritishRacer's and he's a legit big boned 6 foot 7.. British Isles. I've rarely seen anyone of any phenotype even approaching that height, a 6'2 dude would be a half foot shorter. Probably just one of those genetic population extremes, but still.

[BritishRacingGreen]

Thought I might add some more recent picture:

http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx68/febgb/image_zpse32ebe92.jpg (http://s742.photobucket.com/user/febgb/media/image_zpse32ebe92.jpg.html)

[Furnace]

Inside the Atlantid spectrum.

[BritishRacingGreen]

Bump

[BritishRacingGreen]

Atlanto-Nordid. All Nordids do not have to be blue eyed blonde...

That is of course true, but I've never, or seldom get viewed as a swede by other more "pure" swedes.

[Baldur]

what do they guess you as then?

[BritishRacingGreen]

what do they guess you as then?

I've heard a variety of suggestions, among them Croatian (!), German and even Italian!

[Baldur]

yes i can see why they guess that. I have a friend who is half german half swedish and he looks like a greek or something.

[Nico14]

In the latest pic you look kinda brittish with a meditterian vibe, not very slavic or eastern european (so no croatian att all) :thumb001:

[WOOHP]

You don't look stereotypical Swedish but I'm sure you can find more atypical individuals.

[Proto-Shaman]

Hitlers Nordish dreamboy.

[Artek]

Atlanto-Nordid. I don't see the slightest of Cromagnid.

Something Alpinoid may be involved but it can be an individual variation as well (progressive but still somewhat soft look). What's your age?

[BritishRacingGreen]

Atlanto-Nordid. I don't see the slightest of Cromagnid.

Something Alpinoid may be involved but it can be an individual variation as well (progressive but still somewhat soft look). What's your age?

I'm in my twenties ;)

[derbyy]

I got an instant Northern-Italian - South-Western German feeling. I dont think you look like a typical Swede. I've seen Swedes like you, but they're not majority.

[Artek]

I'm in my twenties ;)
You look quite young, imho ;D. But that's advantageous, I believe.

[Ozzy]

Without posting comparison pics to back it up (I gladly would), OP does not look like any Northern Italians that have ever been posted here who didn't look like they came from somewhere else in Europe.. Or any ethnic Northern Italians that I may have ever met who didn't have mixed Euro ancestry from Central/Northern Europe.

You could put his face side by side with any of the Northern Italian examples posted here, and there are major differences, even if subtle. He'd probably fit best as a German, which is basically what he is, besides Swedish. He'd surely inherit his looks from one or the other. Then again, his father is who he looks like, so.. You're obviously Swedish, unless your father was an immigrant from somewhere else. Sounds unlikely, unless you've done your research and know better.

[BritishRacingGreen]

Without posting comparison pics to back it up (I gladly would), OP does not look like any Northern Italians that have ever been posted here who didn't look like they came from somewhere else in Europe.. Or any ethnic Northern Italians that I may have ever met who didn't have mixed Euro ancestry from Central/Northern Europe.

You could put his face side by side with any of the Northern Italian examples posted here, and there are major differences, even if subtle. He'd probably fit best as a German, which is basically what he is, besides Swedish. He'd surely inherit his looks from one or the other. Then again, his father is who he looks like, so.. You're obviously Swedish, unless your father was an immigrant from somewhere else. Sounds unlikely, unless you've done your research and know better.

Well, thank you for your reflections. And yes, I've inherited the majority from my father, except that I've got brown hair and green/brown eyes, compared to his almost black hair and blue eyes. But still he is a swede swede, with no history of immigration.

[BritishRacingGreen]

Bump

[BritishRacingGreen]

I got an instant Northern-Italian - South-Western German feeling. I dont think you look like a typical Swede. I've seen Swedes like you, but they're not majority.

Can you explain what you base that on?