Corded anyone?

[noricum]

Post your ySearch Genetic Distance Report results for the Corded Ware samples from Eulau!

Their user IDs are: 2C46S, SUZKW, YYYBW

http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu227/roapazeinli/eulau_zpsd60523b3.png (http://s650.photobucket.com/user/roapazeinli/media/eulau_zpsd60523b3.png.html)

Artek, I'm especially curious for your result:thumb001:

[Fire Haired]

will they show their str's

like

393 390
13 12

because there are some y dna predictors that test for Slavic branhces. since corded ware culture is ancestral to early slavic cultures and without a doubt spoke proto balto slavic i bet they did have at least balto slavic branch r1a1a1b1 Z283

[Peikko]

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[noricum]

because there are some y dna predictors that test for Slavic branhces. since corded ware culture is ancestral to early slavic cultures and without a doubt spoke proto balto slavic i bet they did have at least balto slavic branch r1a1a1b1 Z283

No, the only close match to the Eulau samples (ftdna kit nr.259861) was tested M198+ M417+ CTS4385+ L664- Z93- Z283- Z282- Z284-

Michał Milewski wrote:

Kit 259861 whose Geno 2.0 results indicated that he is negative for all SNPs downstream of M417 (including L664 and all SNPs at the Z645 level) has been just tested positive for CTS4385. This clearly shows that this small and very young cluster (Stead/Leavitt lineage) showing some apparent similarity to the Eulau haplotypes is an early separated sublineage of CTS4385. Thus, it constitutes a sister branch of L664 (DYS388=10).

http://eng.molgen.org/viewtopic.php?f=77&t=719&p=16894&hilit=eulau#p16894


POST YOUR RESULTS!

[Fire Haired]

So it was at least in Indo European R1a1a1 M417. I still think it is in the Balto Slavic family R1a1a1b Z283. Because Corded ware culture is were Balto Slavic R1a originated.

[Artek]

Artek, I'm especially curious for your result:thumb001:
You are lucky that I'm so sensitive to the word "Corded Ware" :p
These are mine results.
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/4107/s5fj.jpg

Anyway, Y-STR comparisons aren't reliable, since I'm very, very close to the Scythian Z93 remains.
Read about homoplasy, which causes some Y-STR being similar while belonging to another SNP: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homoplasy . Michal, an admin of Z280 section told me of it.

The particular Eulau sample was, as you say, probably M198+ M417+ CTS4385+ L664- Z93- Z283- Z282- Z284-. But Corded Ware culture was quite vast and I believe that many other SNP downstream of it were involved.(Z283,Z282,L664,basal Z280's, maybe even M458). If not, Z284 found all across Nordic countries must have been brought by Balts or Slavs. But we know today, that such scenario is close to impossible and that SNP must have been introduced by Corded Ware/Battle Axe groups. And that's possibly how I1 was introduced too, it just became a little bit more successful than R1a.

Especially R1a-Z280+ CTS1211-Z92-CTS3402- looks quite Corded, those are found in English/Irish, (due to overrepresentation) German and Polish people. Even one Dutch guy has it, a Russian too.

[noricum]

You are lucky that I'm so sensitive to the word "Corded Ware" :p
These are mine results.

I reckoned you would find it sooner or later:D Thanks for posting your results


Anyway, Y-STR comparisons aren't reliable, since I'm very, very close to the Scythian Z93 remains.

Scythian?! :):):):)Whered id you test? On ySearch?

I'm aware of the fact that the results in this thread are not overly meaningful. I just thought It could be fun (If more people would take part) and to get an idea how others score. As a genetic distance of "8" as such doesn't mean much when you can't compare it with other results.