View Full Version : What? Romanians have the least gypsy blood??
ButlerKing
08-24-2013, 06:36 AM
This is why average numbers is bias, Romanians is shown as having only 0.9% South Asian blood while others East European nations who 1-2% more. But Romanian have a history of forcing assimilation on Gypsies so while I don't agree Romanians are part Gypsies they certainly must be the most Gypsy in Europe although very little.
http://s22.postimg.org/5f5lqifo1/admix.png
I just want to point out that
2 Romanians out of 15 have 35% South Asian admixture
2 Romanians out of 15 have 5% South Asian admixture
2 Romanians out of 15 have 1-2% South Asian admixture
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-1_KTYsSXHVE/TePhCT1NcRI/AAAAAAAADy4/ixGj78nM_3s/s400/Romanians_6.png
Hadouken
08-24-2013, 06:49 AM
maybe gypsies are not considered as south asian in this data ?
ButlerKing
08-24-2013, 06:50 AM
maybe gypsies are not considered as south asian in this data ?
Gypsies have mainly European DNA with some South Asian admixture but the ancient Gypsies were South Asian.
Swearengen
08-24-2013, 06:52 AM
the sample size was only 15. It might not have caught any of the romanians with high south asian admixture. Or they may have just purposely excluded them.
ButlerKing
08-24-2013, 07:06 AM
There was also a few Finns with 16-18% Siberian DNA.
armenianbodyhair
08-24-2013, 07:07 AM
Well this is obviously incredibly scientific and full-proof.
Fire Haired
09-01-2013, 12:38 AM
u ca look at other aust dna tests they might give i diff story. Also i have seen most tests what they call ameridana exists i almost all eurasians and africans. stuff under 1% might not mean anything.
blogen
09-01-2013, 01:06 AM
You forget West Asia!
The average Gypsy population have South or West Asian and R1 Y-DNA for example:
Oláh (Romani speking Romanian) Gypsies from Tiszavasvár (Hungary):
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/2395/tiszavas.jpg
South Asian: 31,8% +21,5% R1
West Asian: 35%
Total sample of the ethnic Hungarian, Hungarian-Gypsy and non Hungarian (Oláh and ethnic Romanian) Gypsies from Hungary:
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/8325/totalqh.jpg
The Hungarian Gypsies arrived into the country between the 15-17th century and they did not mix with the Romanians. The Romanian (Oláh and Romanian) Gypsies in the nineteenth century from the Romanian slavery.
source: Vágó-Zalán Andrea: A magyar populáció genetikai elemzése nemi kromoszómális markerek alapján - ISZKI Budapesti Orvosszakértői Intézet, 2012 (http://teo.elte.hu/minosites/ertekezes2012/vago-zalan_a.pdf)
I think that the aDNA and mtDNA samples may be similar...
Benacer
09-01-2013, 01:15 AM
Are you sure this "South Asian" DNA comes from gypsies?
Insuperable
09-01-2013, 01:22 AM
Those two "Romanians" with 35% are probably fully Gypsies (the rest being ME + Euro). Gypsies usually score around 40% South Asia. According to numbers these two samples are not counted in the table you posted which means they are Gypsies and not ethnic Romanians if the table is related to a study.
Blackout
09-01-2013, 05:02 AM
Ethnic Romanians are 'Latin' people, and most Roma tend live separate to them.
Krampus
09-01-2013, 05:03 AM
Ethnic Romanians are 'Latin' people, and most Roma tend live separate to them.
Ethnic Romanians are Romanized Dacians. That's how they got he name Romanian.
Blackout
09-01-2013, 05:11 AM
Ethnic Romanians are Romanized Dacians. That's how they got he name Romanian.
Oh, i was actually told this by a Romanian i knew, a few years ago. He said they are similar to 'Latin' people.
Swearengen
09-01-2013, 05:16 AM
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blogen
09-01-2013, 05:19 AM
Ethnic Romanians are Romanized Dacians. That's how they got he name Romanian.
Rather Illyrians and Thracians, but possibly they have Dacian ancestors too and some Roman and Near Eastern (soldiers and settlers in Dacia) from the ancient age. And the Romanians mixed with Slavs, Cumanians and Hungarians in the Middle Ages. This population is a borderline case between the Balkan, Europe and the Steppe.
The "Roman" name was not ethnic origin. Not the consequence of an assimilation of pre-roman Balkan peoples. Roman = citizen of the Roman (later: Byzantine) Empire.
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