why do people think Buddhism is more peaceful than other religions?

[Aunt Hilda]

Japan in WWII? anyone? :picard1:

[Shah-Jehan]

Japan's religion was Shintoism with a tint of Buddhism...

[rashka]

Buddhism is a Slavic word which means to awaken.

[arcticwolf]

Japan in WWII? anyone? :picard1:

Honey, it's way over your head, how about a cuisine related topic? Trust me, the audience is a lot more qualified to answer, they don't know shit about Buddhism, and neither do you! :laugh:

[arcticwolf]

Buddhism is a Slavic word which means to awaken.

Thanks sis for pointing this out. In polish

To wake up = budzic

[Aunt Hilda]

Honey, it's way over your head, how about a cuisine related topic? Trust me, the audience is a lot more qualified to answer, they don't know shit about Buddhism, and neither do you! :laugh:
:laugh: want some sushi? with a hint of Pearl Harbor? :laugh:

[arcticwolf]

:laugh: want to sushi? with a hint of Pearl Harbor? :laugh:

That's much better sweetie! :laugh:

[arcticwolf]

Ok, tell me what do you want to understand about Buddhism? What puzzles you?

You wanna have a serious discussion on an acceptable intellectual level, let's do it. Hit me love! :thumb001:

[Aunt Hilda]

Japan's religion was Shintoism with a tint of Buddhism...
Religion in Japan (2008)[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Japan#cite_note-NHK_Broadcasting_Culture_Research_Institute_2008-1)

Non-religious (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreligion) (49%)

Buddhism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism) (34%)

Shintoism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shintoism) (3%)

Christianity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity) (1%)

Other religions (1%)

Do not know/not stated (12%)

[Aunt Hilda]

Ok, tell me what do you want to understand about Buddhism? What puzzles you?

You wanna have a serious discussion on an acceptable intellectual level, let's do it. Hit me love! :thumb001:
I don't really care about Buddhism, I just want to know why people(atheists especially) think that Buddhism is better than other religions.

[Smeagol]

The Japanese weren't really buddhists.

[Smeagol]

Religion in Japan (2008)[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Japan#cite_note-NHK_Broadcasting_Culture_Research_Institute_2008-1)

Non-religious (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreligion) (49%)

Buddhism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism) (34%)

Shintoism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shintoism) (3%)

Christianity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity) (1%)

Other religions (1%)

Do not know/not stated (12%)

Only 34% are buddhists.

[arcticwolf]

I don't really care about Buddhism, I just want to know why people(atheists especially) think that Buddhism is better than other religions.

In short because it is!

Buddhism does not have a God, Buddhism does not use blind faith at all, Buddhism is all about self reliance, self help self realization, it's the ultimate individualism, it's facing reality head on no matter how unpleasant or ugly, with equanimity.

[Aunt Hilda]

Only 34% are buddhists.
in 2008..... it's been quite religious in the past. and mostly Buddhist in the last century.

[Smeagol]

in 2008..... it's been quite religious in the past. and mostly Buddhist in the last century.

Perhaps..

[RussiaPrussia]

japanese are shinto shows how less you know about eastern countries

[Aunt Hilda]

In short because it is!
now that a really good, solid argument.:picard1:



Buddhism does not have a God, Buddhism does not use blind faith at all, Buddhism is all about self reliance, self help self realization, it's the ultimate individualism, it's facing reality head on no matter how unpleasant or ugly, with equanimity.
some Buddhists do have a god and don't get me started on Bodhisattvas and all that other bullshit Buddhists believe in.


no offence :redface_002:

[Aunt Hilda]

japanese are shinto shows how less you know about eastern countries
Japan has been Buddhist since the 6th century. :picard1:

[arcticwolf]

now that a really good, solid argument.:picard1:


some Buddhists do have a god and don't get me started on Bodhisattva and all that other bullshit Buddhists believe in.


no offence :redface_002:

Hon, no put down, but you don't understand even the basics. Anyone who thinks Buddhist believe know nothing about Buddhism. These are very basics, how are you gonna carry a meaningful convo on this subject when you lack basic understanding of it?

[Aunt Hilda]

Hon, no put down, but you don't understand even the basics. Anyone who thinks Buddhist believe know nothing about Buddhism. These are very basics, how are you gonna carry a meaningful convo on this subject when you lack basic understanding of it?
I studied Buddhism in my history class. don't try and pull the superior card. xoxo

[arcticwolf]

I studied Buddhism in my history class. don't try and pull the superior card. xoxo

You studied Buddhism in your history class, and you think you know it better than someone who has practiced and studied it for years? LOL No offense, but if you think that your sketchy at best outline knowledge makes you a viable candidate to spout expert opinions, you are fooling yourself! :laugh:

[Aunt Hilda]

You studied Buddhism in your history class, and you think you know it better than someone who has practiced and studied it for years? LOL No offense, but if you think that your sketchy at best outline knowledge makes you a viable candidate to spout expert opinions, you are fooling yourself! :laugh:
hun, look at the tittle and tell me I want to discuss budhhism...
I really don't care about the Buddhist ways of life.

I care about non-Buddhists and why they think your lot is more peaceful.

[arcticwolf]

hun, look at the tittle and tell me I want to discuss budhhism...
I really don't care about the Buddhist ways of life.

I care about non-Buddhists and why they think your lot is more peaceful.

Ok pumpkin, I'll answer your question in a very straight forward manner.

There was never a war in the name of the Buddha, it just can't be, you can't use his teachings to justify violence in any way.


Now hon, here is the gist of it. Do you know what 3 Universal Characteristics of all existence are?

If you knew and understood their true meaning you would not ask this silly question.

[Aunt Hilda]

Ok pumpkin, I'll answer your question in a very straight forward manner.

There was never a war in the name of the Buddha, it just can't be, you can't use his teachings to justify violence in any way.
Nothing could be further from the truth. States where Buddhism is the dominant tradition have engaged in many wars and other conflicts over the past 15 centuries. And Buddhist monks have a long tradition of supporting kings and warlords in their conflicts.






Now hon, here is the gist of it. Do you know what 3 Universal Characteristics of all existence are?


If you knew and understood their true meaning you would not ask this silly question.

to make it short: change, suffrage and selflessness.

Yo're on my Ignore list from now. because you're being completely off-topic and not contributing to the discussion.
I already told you that this thread is not about Buddhism but the way non-Buddhists perceive Buddhism.

[arcticwolf]

Nothing could be further from the truth. States where Buddhism is the dominant tradition have engaged in many wars and other conflicts over the past 15 centuries. And Buddhist monks have a long tradition of supporting kings and warlords in their conflicts.






to make it short: change, suffrage and selflessness.

Yo're on my Ignore list from now. because you're being completely off-topic and not contributing to the discussion.
I already told you that this thread is not about Buddhism but the way non-Buddhists perceive Buddhism.

LOL

Ohhhh. You really hurt my feelings! :laugh:

[Aunt Hilda]

LOL

Ohhhh. You really hurt my feelings! :laugh:
need a kiss to make it all better? :rolleyes:

[arcticwolf]

need a kiss to make it all better? :rolleyes:

Kiss is a good start, but I doubt a single kiss will take all the pain away. Are you willing to do what it takes to sooth my soul? :laugh:

[Aunt Hilda]

Kiss is a good start, but I doubt a single kiss will take all the pain away. Are you willing to do what it takes to sooth my soul? :laugh:

I'll pray for you my son. and hope GOD will forgive you for your heresy.

[arcticwolf]

I'll pray for you my son. and hope GOD will forgive you for your heresy.

Cupcake, I believe in no God, there ain't no such entity. Praying is begging and bargaining with an imaginary character.

have you already forgotten, I face reality, and only real is important to me!

You need a better plan if you desire to lessen my burden! :laugh:

[Aunt Hilda]

Cupcake, I believe in no God, there ain't no such entity. Praying is begging and bargaining with an imaginary character.

have you already forgotten, I face reality, and only real is important to me!

You need a better plan if you desire to lessen my burden! :laugh:


Psalm 14:1 ESV


To the choirmaster. Of David. The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds, there is none who does good.

[arcticwolf]

Psalm 14:1 ESV


To the choirmaster. Of David. The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds, there is none who does good.

LOL

What is that suppose to mean? That those who use the space between their ears to think and discern reality, and reject blind faith as useless, more than that a very harmful tool to investigate reality, are the ones in the dark? LOL

Sister your arguments have to make more sense than saying "believe or else?"

If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen babe! :laugh:

[Permafrost]

Japan in WWII? anyone? :picard1:

That's an irrational argument, the 'massacres' in question were committed by Japanese soldiers, not by zen buddhist monks. Furthermore, as it has already been hinted Japanese beliefs have a certain degree of syncretism, it would be erroneous to univocally define them as buddhist, as cca half of their rites and rituals (such as nearly every Japanese marriage) are carried out by the kannushi, shinto priests.

All of the major controversial religious issues of Japan's involvement in WWII are associated with Shintoism, rather than Buddhism.

Example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversies_surrounding_Yasukuni_Shrine

[Albion]

Aunt Hilda is wrong about gods in Buddhism. They don't form part of Buddhism, but instead are local pre-Buddhist deities and spirits. Buddhism never set out to deny or confirm the existence of any deities and so is compatible with a lot of existing religions, perhaps even with the belief in the Christian god. In this sense it is more of a philosophy or set of moral guides to live by, Gauthma Budha was more like a teacher than a prophet.

I did about Buddhism in school too, aced RE (religious education) tests by writing about it, but that was years ago. It still appeals to me, but I can't be arsed to practice it. I have had some pretty cool meditations before though, I think it's more to do with how you concentrate on your sinuses rather than anything else, you're probably taking in more oxygen. Feels weird when you come out of it.

[Hadouken]

even if japan was a buddhist country that wouldnt mean that most people there are religious ....when will you people understand that ?

germany is supposed to be a christian country right ? do you know how many religious germans i know ? a handful maybe

[kvarc]

I guess the buddhism is the only real Aryan religion :)

[amerinese]

Japan is a horrible example. Jesus Christ, do some basic research.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/shinto/history/history_1.shtml#section_3

Read the section about the "Meiji Restoration".

Now if you need an example of Buddhists behaving badly, maybe have a look at Myanmar or something.

[Óttar]

Japan is a horrible example. Jesus Christ, do some basic research.
This. Shinto and Buddhism blended with Japanese military nationalism in the '40s doesn't say anything about Buddhism per se, just that the Japanese used it as a means to push an ultra-modern ideology i.e. nationalism. Buddhism is seen as more peaceful because it doesn't have the lengthy history of holy war that Christianity and Islam does. Buddhism is about mind training and freeing oneself from grasping and negative emotions. There has been intersectarian fights between Buddhist sects in Tibet, but these are isolated incidents. Abrahamic religion is the engine of religious intolerance par excellence. Abrahamism by its very nature is intolerant.

Ethnic conflict in Sri Lanka is a political conflict not a religious one. And this situation with the Rohingas is an ultra-modern one, and probably had to do with being a reaction against the aggressive nature of Islam everywhere it goes.

[Lurker]

Like others said, Buddhism has its problems, but Japan in WW2 is an awful example. Japanese official religion was state shinto, which was already a lot of modifications put upon traditional shinto. Buddhism barely mattered into the reasons for war or treatment of prisioners. What mattered was that state shinto said the Emperor was a living god and that this justified the war of conquest over others.

[RandoBloom]

Buddhism is a Slavic word which means to awaken.

Dear God, when will Serb idiocy stop

[arcticwolf]

Dear God, when will Serb idiocy stop

lol you really don't speak a Slavic language "Illirian", do you dummy? :laugh:

She worded it a bit awkward, but she is right.

Budzic in Polish means to awaken, other Slvic languages use budic for to awaken.

Buddha means the awakened one. See why she said, what she said?

Are you really this dense? Do you know that Slavic and Baltic languages are cousins to Sanskrit?

[Aunt Hilda]

Are you really this dense? Do you know that Slavic and Baltic languages are cousins to Sanskrit?
could you be more stupid?

[mikhail]

Yeah, probably, unless you count Burmese militant Bhuddism

[arcticwolf]

could you be more stupid?

Could you?

[Aunt Hilda]

Could you?
of course i could.

[Selurong]

lol you really don't speak a Slavic language "Illirian", do you dummy? :laugh:

She worded it a bit awkward, but she is right.

Budzic in Polish means to awaken, other Slvic languages use budic for to awaken.

Buddha means the awakened one. See why she said, what she said?

Are you really this dense? Do you know that Slavic and Baltic languages are cousins to Sanskrit?

So what? Mere language similarities doesn't give you guys the right to claim that Buddha is teeeh glorious Aryan brother. Honestly, it's a low act, reminiscent of the Afrocenrists twisting history to suit their agenda and paint the classical civilizations to be black except in this version, they are painted as white.

Buddha is Asian, not European. The Filipino word for father, Tatay is evolved from the Aztec word, Tatle, it doesn't mean we are all a bunch of gung-ho Aztec Jaguar Warriors, we are still Asian. Having the same word have similar meaning in another language does not necesarilly mean that they are teeeeh brothers. For a Buddhist, that claims to be unbiased, the Buddhist in these forums seem to be afflicted with the white version of Afrocentric historical revisionism.

[Gustave H]

I don't know. National Socialism is the most peaceful religion. :coffee:

[Svipdag]

Except for Tibetan Lamaism, a militant outgrowth of Buddhism, in practise, Buddhism has been peaceful. Buddhists protest, e.g., oppression, not by rioting, but by self-immolation, as a moral lesson to others. Ahimsa, harmlessness to other living beings, though originally a Hindu concept (After all, Siddhartha Gautama Shakyamuni, the Buddha, was originally a Hindu before his revelation.), is an important element of Buddhist faith.

[Leo Iscariot]

Japan in WWII? anyone? :picard1:

State Shinto was the national religion of Japan during WWII. Zen Buddhism has a long history in Japan, especially among the old Samurai class, but that's less to do with violence and more with Zen's teachings of not being attached to life, since the Samurai were supposed to lay down their lives at a moments notice for their daimyo.

[Ziveth]

Japan's religion was Shintoism with a tint of Buddhism...

Yeah, Buddhism is mainly in Tibet region