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Tony

10-07-2009, 09:18 PM

http://www.bivouac-id.com/2009/08/29/illimunation-de-la-tour-eiffel-aux-couleurs-de-la-turquie/

Illimunation de la Tour Eiffel aux couleurs de la Turquie
Par Ishtar le 29 août 2009

La Turquie, invitée d’honneur de la France
Lancée le 30 juin au ministère de la Culture et de la communication en présence de Frédéric Mitterrand et de Ertugrul Günay, respectivement ministres de la Culture en France et en Turquie, la Saison de la Turquie en France (1er juillet 2009 jusqu’à fin mars 2010) est désormais sur les rails.

Un avant-goût de ce qui attend la France en prévision de l’adhésion effective de la Turquie à l’Europe. Car comment interpréter la profusion de programmes grandioses dédiés à la culture turque autrement que comme un acquiescement non dissimulé à son entrée dans l’Union Européenne?
...

http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/ac262/Taggurt15/2387818605_small_6.jpg?t=1251535713

too much of a courtesy imho :coffee:

The Lawspeaker

10-07-2009, 09:21 PM

And yet again- France is the first to surrender.... :rolleyes::(

Óttar

10-07-2009, 09:48 PM

And yet again- France is the first to surrender.... :rolleyes::(
The French just have a love affair with Islamicate population groups. After all, these are the same people who made Algerians French citizens.

It all started with coffee, (Arab. kahwa) Turkish coffee houses, and Turkish cigarettes, first rolled from Ottoman gun cartridges. :cool:

Lysander

10-07-2009, 09:52 PM

And yet again- France is the first to surrender.... :rolleyes::(

Excuse me but Charles Martel was French.

Anyway, care to translate the text to English? This is making no sense to me and as a Greek if there's anything I hate it's a Turk.

Óttar

10-07-2009, 09:59 PM

These people just don't want to get it through their heads. European citizens have repeatedly demonstrated through the ballot box, they DO NOT WANT TURKEY IN THE EU! :mad:

OXI

Mesrine

10-07-2009, 10:19 PM

And yet again- France is the first to surrender.... :rolleyes::(

Calm down, it's just a cultural manifestation: http://www.saisondelaturquie.fr/

BTW we don't have an important Turkish community in France. But when we see the size of the Turkish community in the Netherlands, you should either do something about it or STFU. Otherwise you're just what you are: an internet warrior, and a real life surrender and whiner.

The French just have a love affair with Islamicate population groups. After all, these are the same people who made Algerians French citizens.

That's a ridiculous statement. Actually that's the opposite, de Gaulle abandonned Algeria because he didn't want to give French citizenship to the Algerians.

These people just don't want to get it through their heads.

You don't get that it's simply a seasonal cultural manifestation running from July 1 2009 to March 31 2010.

European citizens have repeatedly demonstrated through the ballot box, they DO NOT WANT TURKEY IN THE EU! :mad:

Don't be mad at this, this does not concern you anyway.

Atlas

10-07-2009, 10:23 PM

And yet again- France is the first to surrender.... :rolleyes::(

The Netherlands surrendered first to the Wehrmacht on the western front. Then Belgium.

Tony

10-07-2009, 10:23 PM

Excuse me but Charles Martel was French.
That was another France , after 1789 France has changed and adopted a silly xenophilia , it's the most mixed state in Europe , a totally different country from that who defeated the mudslims in Poitiers , I feel pity for them now.

Anyway, care to translate the text to English?
It's not that difficult , we're in a French section , a bit of effort , c'mon...:rolleyes:

Beorn

10-07-2009, 10:27 PM

Anyway, care to translate the text to English?

"Launched June 30 the Ministry of Culture and Communication in the presence of Frederic Mitterrand and Ertugrul Günay, respectively Ministers of Culture in France and Turkey Season Turkey in France (1st July 2009 through March 2010) is now on track.

A foretaste of what awaits France in preparation for the accession of Turkey to Europe. For how to interpret the wealth of magnificent programs dedicated to Turkish culture as anything but an overt acquiescence to its entry into the European Union?

And it is during this season of Turkey in France than the Eiffel Tower will be lit in the colors of Turkey, in early October.

That's right: the Eiffel Tower with the star and crescent white on red Turkish flag. Turkey has, in fact, one foot in Europe.

It is the mayor of Paris who carried the red carpet. Frederic Mitterrand, minister of culture, approves and gives his blessing to such a sacrilege.

The question of the accession of Turkey to Europe is not resolved. However, that of Turkey in France is on track: until March 31, 2010, are not less than 400 cultural events which are scheduled under the aegis of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Ministries of Culture French and Turkish.

However, voices are heard here and there to protest against the desecration of the Eiffel Tower by the Turkish-Islamic attributes. First, action SITA, to which we invite you to participate. Then, we should note the initiative of Armenian militants who launch them as a "campaign against the Eiffel Tower in the colors of the Turkish flag. "

The best you'll get out of Google. :)

And yet again- France is the first to surrender.... :rolleyes::(

All we need now is for the Dutch to put up a miserly defence of their homeland and the British will awaken to once again help out Europe. :swl

The Lawspeaker

10-07-2009, 10:28 PM

The Netherlands surrendered first to the Wehrmacht on the western front. Then Belgium.
Not really. The Netherlands fought for 5 days (with only some minor French aid in Zealand (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeeland) for an additional 3) while we barely had an army and we only surrendered after Rotterdam was bombed and the Germans threatened to do the same thing with ALL cities- starting off with Utrecht.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9c/Duitse_inval.png
(Situation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Netherlands) before the Bombing of Rotterdam (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Rotterdam))

And the situation in Belgium:

http://images.encarta.msn.com/xrefmedia/nencmed/targets/maps/mhi/T902988A.gif

As compared to France on May 21, 1940:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c3/21May-4June1940-Fall_Gelb.jpg

And to June:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f2/1940FaguoLiuYue.jpg
While France- with it's army cut off still had more military units at it's disposal and only saw the north (including Paris) occupied when it surrendered. Belgium had not even an inch of free ground left the Netherlands only had parts of Holland as free ground left when it surrendered.

France could have fought on but it surrendered.

Calm down, it's just a cultural manifestation: http://www.saisondelaturquie.fr/

BTW we don't have an important Turkish community in France. But when we see the size of the Turkish community in the Netherlands, you should either do something about it or STFU. Otherwise you're just what you are: an internet warrior, and a real life surrender and whiner.

We have Geert Wilders. What do you have ? Anyways we wouldn't hang Turkish flags on our buildings and most certainly not on a landmark.

But if this is a cultural manifestation it is still a sign of weakness and submission.

Tony

10-07-2009, 10:34 PM

The Netherlands surrendered first to the Wehrmacht on the western front. Then Belgium.
Are you comparing subhumans mudslims with the German master race??

by the way also the French surrendered to the Germans after a few battles and most of French used to live well among both nazi occupation and Vichy regime.
Don't believe the same will happen in a 50%+ arabized and africanized country.

Mesrine

10-07-2009, 10:39 PM

That was another France , after 1789 France has changed and adopted a silly xenophilia ,

How so?

it's the most mixed state in Europe ,

A state doesn't know what "mixed" means.

a totally different country from that who defeated the mudslims in Poitiers

But wich European country hasn't changed in 1300 years? BTW it wasn't really France at that time. Historians commonly take 843 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Verdun) as France's date of birth.

Mesrine

10-07-2009, 10:46 PM

Are you comparing subhumans mudslims with the German master race??

You mean the master race that was smashed by the Russians they also considered to be "sub-humans"? :D

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/14/Reichstag_flag_original.jpg

most of French used to live well among both nazi occupation and Vichy regime.
Don't believe the same will happen in a 50%+ arabized and africanized country.

What are you talking about? The armies of Arabs and Africans nations are at our gates, ready to invade?

The Lawspeaker

10-07-2009, 10:48 PM

What are you talking about? The armies of Arabs and Africans nations are at our gates, ready to invade?
Nah. They are already there. :coffee:

Mesrine

10-07-2009, 10:54 PM

Anyways we wouldn't hang Turkish flags on our buildings and most certainly not on a landmark.

What would you rather have? A few flags on your buildings or the huge Turkish ghettos you have in your country? :D

But if this is a cultural manifestation it is still a sign of weakness and submission.

This statement is a sign not only of your weakness and your fear, but also of your paranoia.

Nah. They are already there. :coffee:

There isn't any invasion army here, paranoid. If anything, an army of cheap workers, with brooms and screwdrivers...

The Lawspeaker

10-07-2009, 10:59 PM

What would you rather have? A few flags on your buildings or the huge Turkish ghettos you have in your country? :D
You have both. ;)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d7/Clichy_sous_Bois_Chemin_des_postes.jpg

This statement is a sign not only only of your weakness, but also of your paranoia.
Rather being paranoid for a reason then naive for no reason.

There isn't any invasion army here, paranoid. If anything, an army of cheap workers, with brooms and screwdrivers...
So what was going on in the banlieues (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_civil_unrest_in_France) ?

Mesrine

10-07-2009, 11:02 PM

You have both. ;)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d7/Clichy_sous_Bois_Chemin_des_postes.jpg

Clichy-sous-Bois is not a Turkish ghetto.

Rather being paranoid for a reason then naive for no reason.

You're paranoid for no reason.

So what was going on in the banlieu ?

Riots (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riot).

The Lawspeaker

10-07-2009, 11:10 PM

Clichy-sous-Bois is not a Turkish ghetto.
Does it matter that it is not Turkish. It's Islamic though and a lot of Africans.
You know: Turks are Islamic. Islam is a threat. The crescent moon is an Islamic symbol:

http://www.youthworkinternational.com/custom/Flags/Pakistan%20flag.gif

http://bariisiyobasto.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/ramadan1.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1424/1461742399_383c9eafa1.jpg

You're paranoid for no reason.
Ooh really ? I guess you are living somewhere in the countryside then.

Riots (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riot).
I know. It was a rhetoric question.
The French response was a joke. The last time they dealth well with rioters was in 1968.

Mesrine

10-07-2009, 11:34 PM

Does it matter that it is not Turkish.

Turks, Kurds, Syrians, Iraqis, Iranians... all Islamic "friends" indeed.

You know: Turks are Islamic. Islam is a threat.

You're blindly swallowing neoconnish BS. If there really was an united Ummah Islamiyah, Israel would have been swept off the map long ago. Stop watching Fox news and open your eyes. In the real world, the Muslim is the worst enemy of the Muslim.

Now explain me why Tariq Ramadan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tariq_Ramadan), who is a Muslim internationalist calling for the realisation of the Ummah, is a Swiss citizen, working in Britain, and can't put a foot on any Islamic country, where he would be condemned to death?

On a side note, I guess being Christian surely stopped Europeans to exterminate themselves twice during last century, right? :rolleyes:

Ooh really ? I guess you are living somewhere in the countryside then.

No, in the nearest suburb of Paris (see below), actually. But not everyone is living in fear, scared whiny friend.

http://i34.tinypic.com/316m5qg.jpg

Lysander

10-07-2009, 11:45 PM

We have Geert Wilders. What do you have ?

The French new right is the most valuable intellectual far right we have in world at the moment. Tread lightly here, you're on thin ice my friend ;).
Geert Wilders is an okay stepping stone but he is still only a cultural nationalist "Muslims who integrate are fine". I'm sorry but, no, they aren't.
At least JM le Penn had the balls to say that being French is in your blood in his debate against Sarkozy.

What are you talking about? The armies of Arabs and Africans nations are at our gates, ready to invade?

It's not a military invasion, it's more an X-files type of colonisation. Most of the people won't wake up until it's too late, we have a couple of Fox Mulders running around but ultimately it's doing no good.

Poltergeist

10-08-2009, 06:30 AM

And yet again- France is the first to surrender.... :rolleyes::(

As far as I know, Britain and USA have been the strongest supporters of Turkey's entry into EU so far, while France has officially opposed it. Maybe cultural manifestations of this sort are signing beginning of a turn into another direction?

The French just have a love affair with Islamicate population groups. After all, these are the same people who made Algerians French citizens.

It all started with coffee, (Arab. kahwa) Turkish coffee houses, and Turkish cigarettes, first rolled from Ottoman gun cartridges. :cool:

Coffee came to Europe through Vienna.

These people just don't want to get it through their heads. European citizens have repeatedly demonstrated through the ballot box, they DO NOT WANT TURKEY IN THE EU! :mad:

Who cares about EU? It is petty bourgeois nonsense to oppose Turkey's entry into EU. Some true nationalist position would be to advocate the dismantling of EU as such, whether or not it had Turkey in its membership. EU is bad, with or without Turkey in it.

But if this is a cultural manifestation it is still a sign of weakness and submission.

Submission??? To what or to whom? You must be kidding.

It is the other way around. If this cultural manifestation has any deeper political meaning, then it isn't submission, but power. Power of one ruling elite which wants to incorporate one more country, Turkey, into its system (let's say, EU in this case), while making some symbolic display of that intention.

Are you comparing subhumans mudslims with the German master race??

One gigantic LOL. :D

Tony

10-08-2009, 04:16 PM

How so?
France has been the first European country to adopt an anti-natural or anti-genetic mindset according to wich everyone who is born in France is a French regardless his race and blood or parents , the so called ius solii , and to an extent France also believes that everyone who speaks French is eligible to become a citizen , do I have to post you football national team picture?
you , I mean the mindest of most French and the 99% of your politicians , academic and stuff believe in the religion of assimilation to turn every arab , chinese , negro into a French citizen , am I wrong?
you've been the very first European mixed state to accept with opened arms the foreigners , do I have to remind you of Alexandre Dumas?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/Alexandre_Dumas.jpg

You mean the master race that was smashed by the Russians they also considered to be "sub-humans"? :D
Master race doesn't mean invincible race , they had to fight against half the world :rolleyes:
the Germans lost fightint the Russians , the Americans and the English at the same time.

What are you talking about? The armies of Arabs and Africans nations are at our gates, ready to invade?
:confused:
are you trolling?seriously , how old are you?
"at the gates" , the French gates are no longer in existence , you are now a camp of saints , the immigration is much worse than a war or terrorism , there are at least 5-6 millions of arabs and negroes in France.

Nah. They are already there. :coffee:
Indeed.

As far as I know, Britain and USA have been the strongest supporters of Turkey's entry into EU so far, while France has officially opposed it. Maybe cultural manifestations of this sort are signing beginning of a turn into another direction?
It's merely a geopolitcal issue , USA want Turkey to join the EU to weaken Europe and don't make Turkey (a very important NATO alley) slide into Asia , France don't want Turkey in beacuse they know in that case the center of EU will gradually shift toward Italy and the Balkans , in fact the French ruling class , especially Sarkozy , are pushing for the "Euro-Mediterranean project" that is to say a very strong partnership (and imho a future complete membership) with Morocco Algeria and Tunisia , 3 maghrebian francophones countries ;)

Coffee came to Europe through Vienna.

Who cares?:D

Poltergeist

10-08-2009, 07:59 PM

Master race doesn't mean invincible race , they had to fight against half the world :rolleyes:
the Germans lost fightint the Russians , the Americans and the English at the same time.

Then what the hell does it mean?

It's merely a geopolitcal issue , USA want Turkey to join the EU to weaken Europe and don't make Turkey (a very important NATO alley) slide into Asia , France don't want Turkey in beacuse they know in that case the center of EU will gradually shift toward Italy and the Balkans , in fact the French ruling class , especially Sarkozy , are pushing for the "Euro-Mediterranean project" that is to say a very strong partnership (and imho a future complete membership) with Morocco Algeria and Tunisia , 3 maghrebian francophones countries ;)

First you say that France likes Turkey and is submitting to Turkey (whatever that means), now you say France doesn't want Turkey in the EU. You are not even sure of what you yourself think.

Who cares?:D

I don't. But some other participants in this discussion obviously do.

Mesrine

10-08-2009, 08:41 PM

France has been the first European country to adopt an anti-natural

As in culture opposed to nature.

or anti-genetic mindset according to wich everyone who is born in France is a French regardless his race and blood or parents , the so called ius solii

We have both ius sanguinis AND ius soli in our civil code. The child of any French national born outside of the country is French, so your "anti-genetic mindset" argument doesn't stand.

BTW, my father is Italian (from the province of Pordenone). Do you see me as one of your compatriots, with your "genetic natural" mindset?

and to an extent France also believes that everyone who speaks French is eligible to become a citizen

LOL, where did you get that silly idea from? Have you heard Sarkozy's awful French? :D

Now more seriously, I know an Australian who has the French nationality because his mother is French, without speaking a single word, thanks only to ius sanguinis. The proof that the "law of the blood" sucks, really.

do I have to post you football national team picture?

Please do if you seriously think that posting a picture with 9 black footballers on it will annoy an anti-racist like me. :coffee:

I mean the mindest of most French and the 99% of your politicians , academic and stuff believe in the religion of assimilation to turn every arab , chinese , negro into a French citizen , am I wrong?

Sounds good to my ears.

you've been the very first European mixed state to accept with opened arms the foreigners , do I have to remind you of Alexandre Dumas?

That's a ridiculous statement. Since when Alexandre Dumas was a foreigner? He was the son of Thomas Alexandre Davy de la Pailleterie, know as General Dumas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas-Alexandre_Dumas). Dumas' family has always been French.

Master race doesn't mean invincible race , they had to fight against half the world :rolleyes:

They were doomed to be smashed on the Eastern front, as soon as the Soviets had a chance to regroup their forces.

the Germans lost fightint the Russians , the Americans and the English at the same time.

Why do you try to find a lame excuse for the "race" (not even a race, just a people) you idolize? A truly superior people is supposed to win, whatever the conditions. They lost? Well, it's because they weren't superior, period.

:confused:
are you trolling?seriously , how old are you?

Mentally older than you, it seems.

"at the gates" , the French gates are no longer in existence , you are now a camp of saints , the immigration is much worse than a war or terrorism

I would like to see you say that in spring 1945 germany, under Anglo-American bombings, shitting your feldgrau pants while waiting for the Soviets... now tell me if immigrants are really worse.

there are at least 5-6 millions of arabs and negroes in France.

So what? I'm not negrophobic, and Islam doesn't annoy me more than Christianity.

Grey

10-08-2009, 08:57 PM

you've been the very first European mixed state to accept with opened arms the foreigners , do I have to remind you of Alexandre Dumas?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/Alexandre_Dumas.jpg

He was ~1/8 Afro-Caribbean and ~7/8 French. Not really a foreigner at all. I'm not pro-Immigrant at all, but Dumas was mostly French.

Hussar

10-08-2009, 09:04 PM

France has been the first European country to adopt an anti-natural or anti-genetic mindset according to wich everyone who is born in France is a French regardless his race and blood or parents.........

This is the nature of ROMANCE civilisation itself to be rudely and totally sincere.

The concepts of "Germanicness" and "Slavicness" can't prescind the biological factor, while Romance one.......can.

Poltergeist

10-08-2009, 09:30 PM

This is the nature of ROMANCE civilisation itself to be rudely and totally sincere.

The concepts of "Germanicness" and "Slavicness" can't prescind the biological factor, while Romance one.......can.

"Slavic" is linguistic concept, first and foremost.

Tony

10-08-2009, 10:31 PM

As in culture opposed to nature.
Indeed , French mindest is all nurture and nothing nature , they think they can Frenchisize everyone (I suppose even a donkey) by merely impose on him their language and culture but you failed and the banlieu showed it all.
The ethnics still retain their habist and live in the ghettoes , like in America , race isn't a social construnct , it's the society that is a racial construct.
Race do exists , different races react different to medicines , dna and haplogroups are different as well , only political correctness deny that.

BTW, my father is Italian (from the province of Pordenone). Do you see me as one of your compatriots, with your "genetic natural" mindset?

Yours seems to me having the mindset of commie troll.

Please do if you seriously think posting a picture with 9 blacks on it will annoy an anti-racist like me. :coffee:

I do of course my fellow xenophile.

http://www.footballiscominghome.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/france-team-photo.jpg
What a shame , you have no dignity , rely on africans , arabs , pacific islanders and yesterday on italians and polish , to make a squad.

Sounds good to my ears.

No doubt

Mentally older than you, it seems.

I'd say mentally too old.;)

I would like to see you say that in spring 1945 germany, under Anglo-American bombings, shitting your feldgrau pants while waiting for the Soviets... now tell me if immigrants are really worse.

In a war you can defende youself my friend , against massive third world immigration and miscegenetion how you can deal with it??

Tony

10-08-2009, 10:33 PM

Hussar

10-08-2009, 10:50 PM

Barak Obama is a romance?:rolleyes:

Individual cases doesn't change the general conceptual reality.

Tony

10-08-2009, 10:59 PM

Individual cases doesn't change the general conceptual reality.

In all honesty seems to me that to a certain extent every civilization at some point fall into a certain decree of miscegenetion , the Greeks did , the Romans as well , then the French and now it's the turn of the rest of us Europeans and Americans.
But some fall more than others and I put French in the "more category"
Their mentality has been completely overrun by political correctness , "race doesn't exist" stuff etc
the nichilistic triumph of nurture over nature.

Mesrine

10-08-2009, 11:03 PM

Indeed , French mindest is all nurture and nothing nature , they think they can Frenchisize everyone (I suppose even a donkey)

Nope, a donkey can't talk. Oh wait, you can type.

by merely impose on him their language and culture but you failed and the banlieu showed it all.

Stupid argument, these riots were social. BTW those rioters spoke in French between them, and were of all colours and religious backgrounds. You just can't escape your French jacobine education. :D

The ethnics still retain their habist and live in the ghettoes , like in America , race isn't a social construnct , it's the society that is a racial construct.

Race do exists , different races react different to medicines , dna and haplogroups are different as well ,

*Yawn*

And? What is the relation between irrelevant biological facts and cultures, civilisations, languages?

only political correctness deny that.

*Yawn*

You mean something invisible like so-called PC is enough to hold you back?

Yours seems to me having the mindset of commie troll.

If by "trolling" you mean making some sense, then yes.

But answer my question instead of talking nonsense. You don't know what communism and fascism are, obviously. Let's hear what Mussolini, your leader, had to say about race:

Race? It is a feeling, not a reality. Nothing will ever make me believe that biologically pure races can be shown to exist today.

I do of course my fellow xenophile.

http://www.footballiscominghome.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/france-team-photo.jpg

They are all French, so your accusation of xenophilia doesn't make sense.

What a shame , you have no dignity , rely on africans , arabs , pacific islanders and yesterday on italians and polish , to make a squad.

How so having a muticolour football team equals having "no dignity"?

I'd say mentally too old.;)

How so am I "mentally too old"?

In a war you can defende youself my friend , against massive third world immigration and miscegenetion how you can deal with it??

Miscegenation is only a problem for people who suffer of racial hysteria.

Lutiferre

10-08-2009, 11:07 PM

The concepts of "Germanicness" and "Slavicness" can't prescind the biological factor, while Romance one.......can.
What are you talking about? Germanicness and slavicness are not biological concepts to begin with. Nor are they organic ethnic concepts. They are linguistic, meta-cultural constructs, and the groupings within them are not grouped together based on biological questions.

Tony

10-08-2009, 11:12 PM

But anwer my question instead of talking nonsense. You don't know what communism and fascism are, obviously. Let's hear what Mussolini, your leader
Mussolini said the racism was stuff fit for blonde people only , well even the Duce said some bullshit :D
Jus because we're not that blonde that doesn't mean we should mix with africans and arabs like you sponsor , or at least you have nothing against.

They are all French, so your accusation of xenophilia doesn't make sense.

Why don't you change you name to Al Marucchèn?it fits you more.

How so having a muticolour football team equals having "no dignity"?

If you can't get it by yourself you're in big trouble.

Bonne nuit

Poltergeist

10-08-2009, 11:14 PM

You still owe us a definition of what constitutes "master race", Tony.

Mesrine

10-08-2009, 11:26 PM

Mussolini said the racism was stuff fit for blonde people only , well even the Duce said some bullshit :D

If even the Duce (or The Douche?) said some bullshit, imagine a bit how many stupidities one of his confused and delusional romantic XXIst century followers who doesn't even know what fascism was can shoot... :D

Jus because we're not that blonde that doesn't mean we should mix with africans and arabs like you sponsor , or at least you have nothing against.

And why shouldn't we mix? Nature allows you to do so, and I thought you favoured nature over nurture.

Why don't you change you name to Al Marucchèn?it fits you more.

But I'm French, not Moroccan, so what you said is stupid.

If you can't get it by yourself you're in big trouble.

"By yourself"? It's nonsensical, because French players are... French. And in big trouble against what?

If football was an important matter your country wouldn't have survived its crushing defeat at the hands of France in the last seconds of Euro 2000's final.. but it did (and it even won last World Cup). See? It's just a game, 22 guys and a ball.

Bonne nuit

Buona notte.

Tony

10-10-2009, 10:48 PM

And why shouldn't we mix?
If you want do it but not in Europe , miscegenetion is a genetic act of war against Europeans.

Nature allows you to do so, and I thought you favoured nature over nurture.

Then we have very different opinions on what nature is , yours seems simply linking nature to freedom , in my view nature doesn't mean you can do whatever you phisically could otherwise we should consider perfecty natural behaviour also bestialism and pedophilia , a man of 55 is naturally capalbe to have sex and get pregnant a 11 years old girl?is this right in you natural vision?
I view that differently , nature has it that people unconsciously seek to spread their genes to the next generation , Philipe Rushton explained it well , people choose their mate accordingly on genetic compatibility , well not all but most people do , that's also what we check day by day , people prefer to live amongst their own kind , and marry also among their own kind.
And that's even more important if we think most Europoid genes are recessive.
That's nature , selective and not multiracial.

But I'm French, not Moroccan, so what you said is stupid.

French?what does it mean? ;)

Mesrine

10-10-2009, 11:04 PM

If you want do it but not in Europe

I'll do it (or not), where I want to, wether little weak racialist hysterics like it or not.

miscegenetion is a genetic act of war against Europeans.

Define "Europeans", because you change version every time: last night you tried to refer to "cultural unity", and now you grasp for genes, sorry, for straws.

Then we have very different opinions on what nature is , yours seems simply linking nature to freedom

I haven't exposed any view on this subject. I just underlined a fact, nature allows us to mix.

in my view nature doesn't mean you can do whatever you phisically could otherwise we should consider perfecty natural behaviour also bestialism and pedophilia , a man of 55 is naturally capalbe to have sex and get pregnant a 11 years old girl?is this right in you natural vision?

^ Straw man argument. But there's worse: you seem to deeply mistake law, morals and nature.

people choose their mate accordingly on genetic compatibility

Genetic compatibility = hability to produce childrens, punto e basta.

well not all but most people do , that's also what we check day by day , people prefer to live amongst their own kind , and marry also among their own kind.

Of what are you afraid, then?

And that's even more important if we think most Europoid genes are recessive.

So what? Only fetishists care about that.

That's nature , selective and not multiracial.

In nature, I see several races, so "nature" must be mutiracial. And someone must be wrong.

French?what does it mean? ;)

You're not really good at definitions, right? Fascism, nature, "master race", French... :D

Tony

10-10-2009, 11:17 PM

^ Straw man argument. But there's worse: you seem to deeply mistake law, morals and nature.

You're failing again at getting the point , just because a thing "exists" it doesn't mean it's natural , to me it's natural only those behaviours that allow a person or say a civilization , to perpetuate , homosexuality , bestiality , pedophilia , miscegenetion and the likes are not natural in this scheme.
Or , as you like to point every word , they're natural but not progressive , in a evolutionary meaning , they represent a sort of involution.

You're not really good at definitions, right? Fascism, nature, "master race", French... :D
You're said you're French, what does it mean , it's a very simple question , if you aren't capable to answer even to this I'll repeat , you have a problem.

Mesrine

10-10-2009, 11:39 PM

You're failing again at getting the point , just because a thing "exists" it doesn't mean it's natural

If it exists, it's natural, it's an objective thing. You mistake it with our human moral, a subjective matter. So, if someone here is failing at getting the point...

to me it's natural only those behaviours that allow a person or say a civilization , to perpetuate , homosexuality , bestiality , pedophilia , miscegenetion and the likes are not natural in this scheme.
Or , as you like to point every word , they're natural but not progressive , in a evolutionary meaning , they represent a sort of involution.

You really have confused ideas, to say the least.

You're said you're French, what does it mean

I'm of French nationality.

it's a very simple question , if you aren't capable to answer even to this I'll repeat , you have a problem.

Being French is being of French nationality (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_nationality_law). I'm amazed that a (lost) son of Rome, a wannabe Fascist doesn't even know what a civic nation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationalism#Civic_nationalism) is about. You can be French either by ius soli, ius sanguinis, or both (in the vast majority of cases, including mine).

I already answered you about this in this thread or another one, so it's you who show comprehension problems, unless you have troubles with your memory.

Mesrine

10-11-2009, 06:22 PM

Are you comparing subhumans mudslims with the German master race??

You still owe us a definition of what constitutes "master race", Tony.

We are still waiting for your definition of what constitutes this so-called "master race", Tony.

Tony

10-11-2009, 08:47 PM

We are still waiting for your definition of what constitutes this so-called "master race", Tony.
Germans had contributed a lot for European culture , be it classical music or the mere arts and crafts or literature , not to mention the gigantic role they played and still do in philosphy , they have also proven to be hard working people , not inclined into miscegenation (differently from say the French and , to some extent , the British) and very very hard to die , fighting half the world till the end and not surrending to anyone , they simply excel in every human field they're involved in , how could one not thinking of them as the master race?
they are the best example for every European.

Mesrine

10-11-2009, 08:51 PM

Germans had contributed a lot for European culture ,

Among others.

be it classical music or the mere arts and crafts or literature , not to mention the gigantic role they played and still do in philosphy , they have also proven to be hard working people , not inclined into miscegenation (differently from say the French and , to some extent , the British) and very very hard to die , fighting half the world till the end and not surrending to anyone , the simply excel in every human field they're involved , how one could not thinking of them as the master race?

It's simply not enough. Do you see the Germans ruling the world? No. So they aren't a "master race". And since when are they a race anyway? They're only a nation, a people. As always, you're confusing everything.

Tony

10-11-2009, 08:57 PM

Among others.

I thought I was clear...
Not only they excelled in those fields , like the Italians of French , but they also showed the world to be real die hard , Al remember the Dux's quote , è l'aratro che traccia il solco ma è la spada che lo difende.
It's a good thing to play a major role in civilitation but if you're not good at war , if you ain't a good soldier , if you lack a warrior mindset then in the end it means nothing , because you can't defend your musicians , the writers , the scientists and so on.
The Germans were the best on every subject.

Mesrine

10-11-2009, 09:09 PM

I thought I was clear...

That's the problem. You thought you were clear, and since your mind is fuzzy and confused, to say the least...

Not only they excelled in those fields , like the Italians of French , but they also showed the world to be real die hard , Al remember the Dux's quote , è l'aratro che traccia il solco ma è la spada che lo difende.
It's a good thing to play a major role in civilitation but if you're not good at war , if you ain't a good soldier , if you lack a warrior mindset then in the end it means nothing , because you can't defend your musicians , the writers , the scientists and so on.
The Germans were the best on every subject.

Get real, Tony, your beloved Germans were defeated (and several times). History has judged the Germans: they simply are not superior.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cd/Waffenstillstand_gr.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/14/Reichstag_flag_original.jpg

Tony

10-11-2009, 09:19 PM

That's the problem. You thought you were clear, and since your mind is fuzzy and confused, to say the least...

Lol , have I to remind you of this?

1) I'm not nationalist

If someone is a French nationalist here, it's me, and only me.

:D
you really have no shame or sense of ridicolous.

Get real, Tony, your beloved Germans were defeated (and several times). History has judged the Germans: they simply are not superior.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cd/Waffenstillstand_gr.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/14/Reichstag_flag_original.jpg
Read again what I wrote in the erarlier posts , master race doesn't mean invincible race , it's simply logic.

Poltergeist

10-11-2009, 09:20 PM

Germans had contributed a lot for European culture , be it classical music or the mere arts and crafts or literature , not to mention the gigantic role they played and still do in philosphy , they have also proven to be hard working people , not inclined into miscegenation (differently from say the French and , to some extent , the British) and very very hard to die , fighting half the world till the end and not surrending to anyone , they simply excel in every human field they're involved in , how could one not thinking of them as the master race?
they are the best example for every European.

That makes (some of) them great artists, scientists, writers, philosophers and soldiers, but doesn't make them "master race". Do you need to look up int a dictionary to see what "master" means? Masters are those that rule over some others, who are subjugated. Germans lost two world wars and the occasion to be masters, so it means they are not "master race". Is there any master race? I don't think so. Fortunes of history change.

Read again what I wrote in the erarlier posts , master race doesn't mean invincible race , it's simply logic.

Masters are those who lose wars and therefore lose their occasion to become masters? But they are still somehow masters. Now that's truly logical.:rolleyes:

Mesrine

10-11-2009, 09:25 PM

Lol , have I to remind you of this?

:D
you really have no shame or sense of ridicolous.

This already was answered, Tony, do I have to remind you of this?

There's no contradiction, but only your poor comprehension skills.

I'm not a nationalist, it's true, I'm only a Republicanist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republicanism#French_and_Swiss_thought). But on the other hand people like you, as well as most members of this board are anti-nationalist, because in reality they are (white) racialist internationalists.

Hence the fact that in a way, if someone is a nationalist here (in the civic national meaning), or at least is the closest to the definition, it's me. Quod erat demonstrandum.

Read again what I wrote in the erarlier posts , master race doesn't mean invincible race , it's simply logic.

Master race means "race wich rules the others". Wich isn't the case, so your argument totally crumbles here.

Master (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/master)

Old English mæġester, from Latin magister (“chief, teacher”)

1. someone who has control over something or someone
2. owner of an animal or slave.
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