Austronesian : most advance boat sailing technology ? ( southeast Asian civilization pride )

[ButlerKing]

The southeast Asian should be proud of their Austronesian heritage, modern Austronesian people trace back to only about 200-300 women and 100-200 men who sailed from Taiwan and colonized all the way to Southeast Asia, Polynesia, Melanesia, Micronesia, New zealand , India oceans, East Africa Madagascar and surrounding islands The people today still speak Austronesian languages and Austronesian house architecture, music instrument in Madagascar are from Austronesian and some of their most famous inventions in Africa.


Mind you this happened 2500 BC to 500 BC, even Europe and Middle east did not had this sailing technology and skill. Historians were amazed at how these Austronesian speakers managed to reach Africa.

http://www.transpacificproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/extent-of-austronesian-migrations2.jpg


There is even evidence they sailed as far as Middle east and Americas

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0a/Migraciones_austronesias.png/500px-Migraciones_austronesias.png

[ButlerKing]

Xylophone

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7e/Xylophone_%28PSF%29.png

History

Kulintang a Kayo, a Philippine xylophone. The instrument has obscure, ancient origins. According to Nettl, it originated in southeast Asia and came to Africa c. 500 AD when a group of Malayo-Polynesian speaking peoples migrated to Africa. One piece of evidence for this is the similarity between East African xylophone orchestras and Javanese and Balinese gamelan orchestras.[6]

The Asian xylophone

The earliest evidence of a true xylophone is from the 9th century in southeast Asia, while a similar hanging wood instrument--a type of harmonicon--is said to have existed in 2000 BC in what is now part of China, according to the Vienna Symphonic Library.[7] The xylophone-like ranat was used in Hindu regions (kashta tharang). Java and Bali use xylophones (called gambang) in gamelan ensembles. They still have traditional significance in Africa, Malaysia, Melanesia, Indonesia, Thailand, and regions of the Americas. The instrument was imported to South America by Africans, where it developed into the marimba.

[ButlerKing]

There is a more fascinating family of material things that probably arrived from Indonesian as well: musical instruments. From a long time ago, musicians have suspected a relation between the Indonesian and the African, particularly in the case of the Xylophone. In the following picture, there are Indonesian instruments, all of which have an exact match in Africans.

http://www.balifurnish.com/balidrum5_didgeridoo/musical-instruments-bamboo-wood-bali-indonesia.jpg


There are many theories that attribute many things to Indonesians, perhaps to much. You can find them in places like the following, and are known as the "Indonesian Jones" theory.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/jan/12/indonesia.rorycarroll

And in this site. I have the book and I find good, but I can't tell how much is true or false.

http://www.phantomvoyagers.com/



He claims that even Great Zimbabwe architecture shows Indonesian influence.

http://hnn.us/roundup/comments/3010.html

(Ancient Javanese ship)
http://www.shikanda.net/topicalities/bandung/indonesia%20totaal%20selectie%20kleinst/magelang%20borobodur%201%20201.jpg

A replica that reached Cape Town from Indonesia. The Borobudur expedition.

http://image10.webshots.com/10/7/8/92/128070892zqLTGr_fs.jpg




Information in Spanish:
http://www.histarmar.com.ar/HYAMNEWS/HyamNews2004/HY18Borobudur.htm


But how much is true or false? Nobody knows as yet. What is true, though, is that there was early contact between subsaharan Africans and Indonesians long before Arabs and Europeans moved south.

http://www.timedesign.de/ship/samudra_raksa.jpg
http://www.histarmar.com.ar/HYAMNEWS/HyamNews2004/Borobudur/Borobudur_Ship_entering_Tema_Harbour_Feb2004.jpg
http://www.histarmar.com.ar/HYAMNEWS/HyamNews2004/Borobudur/pic-of-day_21.jpg

Finally, in Jared Diammon series, "Guns, Germs and Steel", an archeo
logist found an Indonesia collar found in the ruins of a town right in the middle of Africa. The collar was presented by archaeologist Alex Schoeman, of the university of witwatersrand
the place were was found sounded to me like "Makun-guwe".

The chapter of the series where the collars is shown is here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znpG7uzwyrU&feature=related

[Smeagol]

These people were Mongoloids. It's interesting they got to Madagascar from Asia, in ancient times but the native Africans couldn't do it until late medieval times.

[ButlerKing]

These people were Mongoloids. It's interesting they got to Madagascar from Asia, in ancient times but the native Africans couldn't do it until late medieval times.

That is what I'm fascinated. The ruling class of Madagascar empire was very Mongoloid, he united Madagascar.

Radama I, the first monarch of the kingdom
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/99/Radama1.gif

[Smeagol]

That is what I'm fascinated. The ruling class of Madagascar empire was very Mongoloid, he united Madagascar.

Radama I, the first monarch of the kingdom
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/99/Radama1.gif

He looks like he is part Negroid though look at his wooly hair.

[ButlerKing]

At first I found it very strange seeing a Southeast Asian looking Indonesian guy as president of Madagascar. Now I know why....

Can you believe these two were president of Madasgacar?

http://www.english.rfi.fr/sites/english.filesrfi/imagecache/rfi_43_large/sites/images.rfi.fr/files/aef_image/rajoelina-Ravalomanana_0.jpg

He comes from the Merina ethnic group Andry Rajoelina
http://img.over-blog-kiwi.com/0/33/29/53/201301/ob_8df0a94af8362572d9e56e03be1e63d6_img-5228.jpg


Here is the previous president of Madagascar also from Merina group

http://www.geopoliticalmonitor.com/dyn/images/3/2342.jpg

[Smeagol]

At first I found it very strange seeing a Southeast Asian looking Indonesian guy as president of Madagascar. Now I know why....

Can you believe these two were president of Madasgacar?

http://www.english.rfi.fr/sites/english.filesrfi/imagecache/rfi_43_large/sites/images.rfi.fr/files/aef_image/rajoelina-Ravalomanana_0.jpg

He comes from the Merina ethnic group Andry Rajoelina
http://img.over-blog-kiwi.com/0/33/29/53/201301/ob_8df0a94af8362572d9e56e03be1e63d6_img-5228.jpg


Here is the previous president of Madagascar also from Merina group

http://www.geopoliticalmonitor.com/dyn/images/3/2342.jpg

They look completely Mongoloid. There seems to be a Mongoloid elite ruling over black Africans, and Negroid/Mongoloid mixes.

[ButlerKing]

They look completely Mongoloid. There seems to be a Mongoloid elite ruling over black Africans, and Negroid/Mongoloid mixes.

Well they certainly do compared with more than 99% of Madagascar people

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45568000/jpg/_45568422_protest_afp466.jpg
http://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/ap/0c6d9060-72f6-44cd-aa51-c3b7e18eda21.grid-6x2.jpg

[ButlerKing]

The funny thing is, her mother and father also come from noble family but you'll never guess that these were local merina people

http://s1.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20130722&t=2&i=753128349&w=460&fh=&fw=&ll=&pl=&r=CBRE96L188L00

Some Merina noble families do look Mongoloid

http://aa.ecn.cz/img_upload/e6ffb6c50bc1424ab10ecf09e063cd63/madagaskar_merina_people.jpg

but average Merina look like this

http://wwwdelivery.superstock.com/WI/223/1850/PreviewComp/SuperStock_1850-17359.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/48/Malagasy_girls_Madagascar_Merina.jpg