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ButlerKing
08-28-2013, 08:55 AM
Dodecad's K=12 admixtures were calculated. But I never got round to make the East Asian admixture map. It is now done. It combines the values for Northeast Asian and Southeast Asian.

http://www.eupedia.com/images/content/East-Asian-admixture.gif

ButlerKing
08-28-2013, 09:06 AM
The map is confusing

The darker purple shows more than 15% on average admixture which I believe are Uralics and Tatars.

The next color I don't know whether it's a color for 5-10% admixture or 10-15% admixture. The color in Central Turkey, Azerbaijan.

Vojnik
08-28-2013, 09:11 AM
Macedonia doesn't seem to be affected by the spread is EA admixture in Europe. A certain Greek on this Forum would be pleasantly surprised at this map.

Trun
08-28-2013, 09:14 AM
Lol, this map is utter crap. Bulgaria has well below 1%.

ButlerKing
08-28-2013, 09:16 AM
Highest Mongoloid admixtures , a Turkish girl posted this she is both in forumbiodiversity and theapricity. I'm guessing that means the purple color in Central Turkey is between 10- 15% East Asian

1. Turk from Southern Mediterranean area/Adana(14%)
2. Turk from Central Turkey/Ankara ( 14% )
3. Turk from Northwestern Turkey/Bolu (12%)
4. Turk from Southwestern Turkey/Aydin (11-12%)
5. Turk from Central Turkey/Konya (9.6%)

ButlerKing
08-28-2013, 09:24 AM
Lol, this map is utter crap. Bulgaria has well below 1%.

M. Ivanova, P. Spassova, A. Michailova, and E. Naumova. "Distributions of HLA class I alleles and haplotypes in Bulgarians - contribution to understanding the origin of the population." Tissue Antigens 57:3 (March 2001): pages 208-215. Abstract excerpts:

"This is further supported by the analysis of HLA class I haplotypes in Bulgarians. Most of them are also common in Europe. However their frequency pattern in Bulgarians is similar to the South European populations. The presence of some rare alleles and haplotypes indicated Asian genetic inflow. On the basis of HLA class I profile and supported by historical and anthropological data, we suggest that the Bulgarian population is characterized by the features of the Southern European anthropological type with some influence of other groups such as Asians, Turks, Armenians."

Trun
08-28-2013, 09:27 AM
M. Ivanova, P. Spassova, A. Michailova, and E. Naumova. "Distributions of HLA class I alleles and haplotypes in Bulgarians - contribution to understanding the origin of the population." Tissue Antigens 57:3 (March 2001): pages 208-215. Abstract excerpts:

"This is further supported by the analysis of HLA class I haplotypes in Bulgarians. Most of them are also common in Europe. However their frequency pattern in Bulgarians is similar to the South European populations. The presence of some rare alleles and haplotypes indicated Asian genetic inflow. On the basis of HLA class I profile and supported by historical and anthropological data, we suggest that the Bulgarian population is characterized by the features of the Southern European anthropological type with some influence of other groups such as Asians, Turks, Armenians."

As I have said before Bulgarian science are two words that don't make sense together, so if I were you, I wouldn't quote this study.

Equilibrium
08-28-2013, 09:34 AM
As I have said before Bulgarian science are two words that don't make sense together, so if I were you, I wouldn't quote this study.

lol why so negative about Bulgarian scientists? This is about mitochondrial DNA, not autosomal DNA btw. Do you know, there are 4 types of DNA..

MfA_
08-28-2013, 09:37 AM
This is the estimated age of east asian like alleles in various people..

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wcb8XKS6EtQ/UJ4-DFGzBDI/AAAAAAAAHUE/-sydvUc8U4s/s1600/east_asia_balkans_anatolia_caucasus.png

http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2012/11/investigating-east-asian-admixture-in.html

orangepulp
08-28-2013, 09:38 AM
Overall Asian average in Turkey is 5-6%.

SSlava
08-28-2013, 11:57 AM
Gedrosia 1.18%
Siberian 1.63%
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.37%
Atlantic_Med 24.21%
North_European 58.37%
South_Asian 1.08%
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 1.81%
East_Asian -
Caucasus 11.34%
Sub_Saharan -

I have zero.
although on the map of the area of 2.5-5 percent.

MfA_
08-28-2013, 12:15 PM
Gedrosia 1.18%
Siberian 1.63%
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.37%
Atlantic_Med 24.21%
North_European 58.37%
South_Asian 1.08%
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 1.81%
East_Asian -
Caucasus 11.34%
Sub_Saharan -

I have zero.
although on the map of the area of 2.5-5 percent.

I assume the map includes Siberian as well..

SSlava
08-28-2013, 01:41 PM
Well if so then:
1,63 + 0,37 = 2
and you how much of Siberia?

Peikko
08-28-2013, 01:44 PM
Shouldn't Finns have more?

Hevo
08-28-2013, 01:52 PM
Gedrosia 1.18%
Siberian 1.63%
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.37%
Atlantic_Med 24.21%
North_European 58.37%
South_Asian 1.08%
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 1.81%
East_Asian -
Caucasus 11.34%
Sub_Saharan -

I have zero.
although on the map of the area of 2.5-5 percent.

These maps are based on dodecad V3 calculator.(Except Gedrosia and Caucasus these are based on Dodecad K12b)

http://www.eupedia.com/europe/autosomal_maps_dodecad.shtml

Smeagol
08-28-2013, 01:56 PM
Interesting. I think the spot with over 15% admixture, is Chuvash, or Tatars.

MfA_
08-28-2013, 02:04 PM
dv3 is archaic and outdated.. There are dozens of new runs, they should have sticked with k12b like they did caucasus and gedrosia maps..

SSlava
08-28-2013, 03:14 PM
East_European 34.74%
West_European 39.13%
Mediterranean 18.58%
Neo_African -
West_Asian 4.64%
South_Asian 0.38%
Northeast_Asian 1.12%
Southeast_Asian 0.59%
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 0.82%
Northwest_African -
Palaeo_African -

1,12 + 0,59 = 1,68 east Asian

Sky earth
08-28-2013, 04:20 PM
I don't get it why Western Turkey is brighter colored than Central Turkey as we already know that Turks from Aydin have the highest Mongoloid admxiture on average. Turks from Istanbul and Kayseri with lays In Central Asia have 6 % Mongoloid admixture on average while Turks from Aydin have 11 % Mongoloid admixture.


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-7iDFhUObtnE/Tz2ajf9okSI/AAAAAAAAEh8/rZDDQl3_KWA/s1600/K12b.jpg

Sky earth
08-28-2013, 04:23 PM
Interesting. I think the spot with over 15% admixture, is Chuvash, or Tatars.

I'm 100 % sure that it's the Chuvashs because I've never seen Tatars in aDNA but Chuvashs are always present in spreadsheets. They have 20-25 % Mongoloid admixture on average more than Tatars.

orangepulp
08-28-2013, 05:28 PM
I don't get it why Western Turkey is brighter colored than Central Turkey as we already know that Turks from Aydin have the highest Mongoloid admxiture on average. Turks from Istanbul and Kayseri with lays In Central Asia have 6 % Mongoloid admixture on average while Turks from Aydin have 11 % Mongoloid admixture.


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-7iDFhUObtnE/Tz2ajf9okSI/AAAAAAAAEh8/rZDDQl3_KWA/s1600/K12b.jpg

I was thinking the same thing. Western Turks are actually more Asian than Central Anatolian Turks.

RussiaPrussia
08-28-2013, 05:45 PM
I am very proud that my Nation has most East Asian admixture all of Europe, there are many advantages like having cute girls

http://images.thenude.eu/admin/covers/querro/10-11/11-15.jpg
http://s1.1zoom.net/big0/451/325006-svetik.jpg

Blackout
08-28-2013, 05:51 PM
^ ^ ^ ^

We need to check out the authenticity of those 'Burberry' clothes! Not saying they're fake though... :rofl_002:

Blackout
08-28-2013, 05:54 PM
So can someone tell me if ScandoMong's are related to their Eastern counterparts? ;)

Peikko
08-28-2013, 05:57 PM
Dodecad's K=12 admixtures were calculated. But I never got round to make the East Asian admixture map. It is now done. It combines the values for Northeast Asian and Southeast Asian.

Did you do this map yourself?

Smeagol
08-28-2013, 05:57 PM
So can someone tell me if ScandoMong's are related to their Eastern counterparts? ;)

The minor East Asian admixture in Scandinavia is in the north so I assume this is the Saami, and Norwegians, and Swedes with Saami blood.
http://www.eupedia.com/images/content/East-Asian-admixture.gif

bimo
08-28-2013, 06:00 PM
why kalmykia (kalmuks look totally mongols) have so few east asian dna ?

ButlerKing
08-28-2013, 06:02 PM
why kalmykia (kalmuks look totally mongols) have so few east asian dna ?

They don't include recent ethnic minority

ButlerKing
08-28-2013, 06:06 PM
Did you do this map yourself?

No I didn't