hobosmurf
08-29-2013, 03:27 AM
A video roughly outlining the ideas of Oswald Spengler in his book "The Decline of the West"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaA7yzHh2as
longer video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uha7WWgoeX4
According to the ideas of Oswald Spengler in THE DECLINE OF THE WEST, all the great cultures of mankind have followed the same stages of evolution. This can be seen in the arts, architecture, politics and economics of comparative cultures. Spengler showed that the ancient cultures took the same time to reach similar situations as the modern cultures.
One example of this is the length of time it took for cultures to start expanding beyond their previous known limits, such as the Romans starting to conqueror Italy from the security of a city, compared to the Europeans expansion to the continent of America from their relative countries
The author follows this idea, comparing the evolution of Rome and the rise of America and comes to some astonishing conclusions.
Firstly, if the account is started at 515BC for the Romans and at 1584 for the Anglo-Saxons (when Sir Walter Raleigh came to "Virginia"), there is a cultural difference of 2100 years which remains constant between the two states. After this time both states reached hegemony within their regions -- the Romans in 202BC after the second war against Carthage, and 2100 years later the Americans in 1898 after the war against Spain.
Secondly there are many events of similar meaning before and after that, confirming the idea that the Americans of the year 2008 are in the same political and economical situation as the Romans circa 92BC.
Thus the Americans would now seem to be living in the latter time of their republic, which would correspond with the Romans 2100 years before. On that basis it will take maybe 30 years for the modern equivalent of the triumvirate, Caesar and Crassus to appear. In about 70 years the power of Rome passed to an Emperor, and so America will become the "American Empire" in accordance with Spengler's theory of the cyclical rise and fall of civilisations.
The author's main interest lies in the following years: What will happen if this view of history is true: In 92BC the Romans elected a new reformer, Livius Drusus, who was killed a year later by those who hated any idea of structural change -- could this happen again to the new American president, Barak Obama ? And furthermore: shall we be witnesses of a modern version of other events that took place 2100 years before?
Today there are about 11 million illegal hispanics in the southern parts of the USA; we know about studies like that of Samuel Huntington and T. W. Chittum, warning of a new civil war in the United States. Are we approaching the modern version of the war of independence that took place in the years 91-88BC ?
Oswald Spengler
http://danieltutt.com/2010/10/01/decl...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVa-uQ...
Book Online PDF
http://archive.org/search.php?query=c...
I don't fully agree with his ideas, although it's interesting especially how certain stages of different civilizations correspond with each other.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaA7yzHh2as
longer video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uha7WWgoeX4
According to the ideas of Oswald Spengler in THE DECLINE OF THE WEST, all the great cultures of mankind have followed the same stages of evolution. This can be seen in the arts, architecture, politics and economics of comparative cultures. Spengler showed that the ancient cultures took the same time to reach similar situations as the modern cultures.
One example of this is the length of time it took for cultures to start expanding beyond their previous known limits, such as the Romans starting to conqueror Italy from the security of a city, compared to the Europeans expansion to the continent of America from their relative countries
The author follows this idea, comparing the evolution of Rome and the rise of America and comes to some astonishing conclusions.
Firstly, if the account is started at 515BC for the Romans and at 1584 for the Anglo-Saxons (when Sir Walter Raleigh came to "Virginia"), there is a cultural difference of 2100 years which remains constant between the two states. After this time both states reached hegemony within their regions -- the Romans in 202BC after the second war against Carthage, and 2100 years later the Americans in 1898 after the war against Spain.
Secondly there are many events of similar meaning before and after that, confirming the idea that the Americans of the year 2008 are in the same political and economical situation as the Romans circa 92BC.
Thus the Americans would now seem to be living in the latter time of their republic, which would correspond with the Romans 2100 years before. On that basis it will take maybe 30 years for the modern equivalent of the triumvirate, Caesar and Crassus to appear. In about 70 years the power of Rome passed to an Emperor, and so America will become the "American Empire" in accordance with Spengler's theory of the cyclical rise and fall of civilisations.
The author's main interest lies in the following years: What will happen if this view of history is true: In 92BC the Romans elected a new reformer, Livius Drusus, who was killed a year later by those who hated any idea of structural change -- could this happen again to the new American president, Barak Obama ? And furthermore: shall we be witnesses of a modern version of other events that took place 2100 years before?
Today there are about 11 million illegal hispanics in the southern parts of the USA; we know about studies like that of Samuel Huntington and T. W. Chittum, warning of a new civil war in the United States. Are we approaching the modern version of the war of independence that took place in the years 91-88BC ?
Oswald Spengler
http://danieltutt.com/2010/10/01/decl...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVa-uQ...
Book Online PDF
http://archive.org/search.php?query=c...
I don't fully agree with his ideas, although it's interesting especially how certain stages of different civilizations correspond with each other.