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Britain's most unlucky thief nabbed by Dutch soldiers (http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/article.html?Britains_most_unlucky_thief_nabbed_by _Dutch_soldiers&in_article_id=749603&in_page_id=2)
By TOM PHILLIPS - Thursday, October 8, 2009
A thief being chased by an angry farmer must have thought his day couldn't get much worse after he flipped over his stolen quad bike after a 50mph chase.
http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2009/10/dutchparatrooperNNP_450x350.jpg
But it quickly got much worse as he tried to get away following the crash - because he ran straight into a busload of Dutch special forces soldiers, who promptly wrestled him to the ground and knelt on his back.
The thief had stolen the quad from the farm of Nick Walker in Satley, County Durham on Monday morning. 26-year-old Walker, hearing the quad start up, immediately gave chase on another quad.
The quad chase continued for three miles through the countryside until the thief eventually hit a kerb on the outskirts of the small town of Tow Law and flipped over, wrecking the £5,500 quad. The thief then tried to get away on foot - only to run into the troop of Dutch paratroopers, on their way to a training exercise in Northumberland.
Four paratroopers rushed over, grabbed the thief, and knelt on his back until the police arrived to arrest him.
Acting Inspector Peter Dawson commented perceptively: 'He would not have expected to run into a group of special forces soldiers.'
'It just wasn't his day,' he added.
The 25-year-old suspect has now been charged with theft and driving without a licence or insurance.
Beorn
10-09-2009, 01:21 PM
What are Dutch Paratroopers doing in Britain? I'm so sick and tired of bloody foreign soldiers in this state.
Murphy
10-09-2009, 01:23 PM
What are Dutch Paratroopers doing in Britain? I'm so sick and tired of bloody foreign soldiers in this state.
You need to defend your countrymen who are being manhandled be foreign soldiers on your own soil :D!
Regards,
Eóin.
The Lawspeaker
10-09-2009, 01:24 PM
What are Dutch Paratroopers doing in Britain? I'm so sick and tired of bloody foreign soldiers in this state.
I have no idea- we shouldn't be there since 1945, but this is brilliant (http://www.rtl.nl/%28/actueel/rtlnieuws/opmerkelijk/%29/components/actueel/rtlnieuws/2009/10_oktober/08/opmerkelijk/1008_1530_nederlandse_mariniers_pakken_dief.xml) !
How unlucky could this guy get.. :eek:
What are Dutch Paratroopers doing in Britain?
Both countries are members of HATO, hence they do frequent training exercises together and on foreign soil. The Netherlands is a small country with not much space for military drills ... hence I think especially the Dutch would make use of foreign countries' training facilities. And what facilities are better than those of the British Army?
The Lawspeaker
10-09-2009, 01:29 PM
I think that we should resign from NATO though and return to a policy of neutrality.
Allenson
10-09-2009, 02:01 PM
Both countries are members of HATO, hence they do frequent training exercises together and on foreign soil. The Netherlands is a small country with not much space for military drills ... hence I think especially the Dutch would make use of foreign countries' training facilities. And what facilities are better than those of the British Army?
Yes, the Netherlands is not known for its hilly terrain...and the article mentioned that the Dutch fellows were headed for Northumberland. So, perhaps they were headed for the Cheviots for some steep land training...?
Beorn
10-09-2009, 03:02 PM
And what facilities are better than those of the British Army?
The British Army is one of the best armies in the world, if not the best, but it won't stay that way if we keep allowing other nations in and utilising our experience and knowledge.
It reminds me of the story my uncle Bill used to tell me, and in fact most of the 'Old Boys' that I used to spend hours listening to. The Dutch back in their days were nothing more than a motley crew of long haired, ill disciplined layabouts who couldn't grasp the rhetoric of the British Army there to instruct them and guide them.
It defies all logic of building up the power and experience of potential enemies.
The Lawspeaker
10-09-2009, 03:07 PM
The British Army is one of the best armies in the world, if not the best, but it won't stay that way if we keep allowing other nations in and utilising our experience and knowledge.
It reminds me of the story my uncle Bill used to tell me, and in fact most of the 'Old Boys' that I used to spend hours listening to. The Dutch back in their days were nothing more than a motley crew of long haired, ill disciplined layabouts who couldn't grasp the rhetoric of the British Army there to instruct them and guide them.
It defies all logic of building up the power and experience of potential enemies.
I had this book (I really need to look up in my big pile of books)where a British general wrote positively about Dutch troops. They looked indifferent and indisciplined but when it came to fighting they would give it all.
http://gaf.zeelandnet.nl/yp408/fotoboek/images/48/sv_4.jpg
http://gaf.zeelandnet.nl/yp408/fotoboek/images/13/hajo135.jpg
Dutch troops during the 1980s
It defies all logic of building up the power and experience of potential enemies.
Potential enemies? Well perhaps, the Dutch were the last nation to successfully invade and conquer England (http://www.bbc.co.uk/northernireland/learning/william/flash/invasion/invasion.shtml), in 1667. :thumb001:
The Lawspeaker
10-09-2009, 03:20 PM
Ah yes.. those were the days..;)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/42/RaidMedwayPic1.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/82/Jeronymus_van_Diest_%28II%29_-_Het_opbrengen_van_het_Engelse_admiraalschip_de_%2 7Royal_Charles%27.jpg
If wars were won by feasting,
Or victory by song,
Or safety found, by sleeping sound
How England would be strong!
But honour and dominion
Are not maintained so,
They’re only got by sword and shot
And this the Dutchmen know!
The moneys that should feed us
You spend on your delight,
How can you then, have sailor-men
To aid you in your fight?
Our fish and cheese are rotten,
Which makes the scurvy grow –
We cannot serve you if we starve,:
And this the Dutchmen know!
Our ships in every harbour
Be neither whole nor sound,
And when we seek to mend a leak,
No oakum can be found,
Or, if it is, the caulkers,
And carpenters also,
For lack of pay have gone away,
And this the Dutchmen know!
Mere powder, guns and bullets,
we scarce can get at all;
Their price was spent in merriment
And revel at Whitehall,
While we in tattered doublets
From ship to ship must row,
Beseeching friends for odds and ends –
And this the Dutchmen know!
No King will heed our warnings,
No Court will pay our claims –
Our King and Court for their disport
Do sell the very Thames!
For, now De Ruyter’s topsails
Off naked Chatham show,
We dare not meet him with our fleet –
And this the Dutchmen know!
Potential enemies? Well perhaps, the Dutch were the last nation to successfully invade and conquer England (http://www.bbc.co.uk/northernireland/learning/william/flash/invasion/invasion.shtml), in 1667. :thumb001:
But this was in 1688- the Glorious Revolution when we were actually invited to intervene by the English themselves (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glorious_Revolution). 1667 was the Medway Disaster (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raid_on_the_Medway) (as the English call it- or "The Voyage to Chatham" as we call it) when the Dutch burned half the English fleet and took home the other half in a daring raid. ;)
Beorn
10-09-2009, 03:25 PM
I had this book (I really need to look up in my big pile of books)where a British general wrote positively about Dutch troops. They looked indifferent and indisciplined but when it came to fighting they would give it all.
All Generals say that. It must be a tradition, or an old charter, or something
Potential enemies? Well perhaps, the Dutch were the last nation to successfully invade and conquer England (http://www.bbc.co.uk/northernireland/learning/william/flash/invasion/invasion.shtml), in 1667. :thumb001:
They didn't invade. They fought there way up the River and forced a favourable peace. With that logic you could say the hapless Yanks who landed in England to plant explosives on docked ships during the War of Independence, only to find they were wet and altogether hopeless, or the French who invaded Fishguard, Wales were invasions.
The Lawspeaker
10-09-2009, 03:27 PM
All Generals say that. It must be a tradition, or an old charter, or something
They didn't invade. They fought there way up the River and forced a favourable peace. With that logic you could say the hapless Yanks who landed in England to plant explosives on docked ships during the War of Independence, only to find they were wet and altogether hopeless, or the French who invaded Fishguard, Wales.
In 1688 we were invited in by the English. In 1667 we fought our way up the Thames and took the English fleet home as our price souvenir. That taught the English a lesson: don't mess with us. And we had to teach them again at Solebay and Kijkduin before they really understood the message.
1688 was an actual invasion, and only a halfhearted one as we were actually invited in.
They didn't invade. They fought there way up the River and forced a favourable peace. With that logic you could say the hapless Yanks who landed in England to plant explosives on docked ships during the War of Independence, only to find they were wet and altogether hopeless, or the French who invaded Fishguard, Wales.
It's an invasion. They toppled the government and installed their Dutch Prince as the new King of England (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_III_of_England). I don't know how this is any less significant than William the Conqueror's Norman invasion of England in 1066. You just hear less about it, that's all.
Beorn
10-09-2009, 03:33 PM
In 1688 we were invited in by the English. In 1667 we fought our way up the Thames and took the English fleet home as our price souvenir. That taught the English a lesson: don't mess with us. And we had to teach them again at Solebay and Kijkduin before they really understood the message.
The only thing you Dutch ever taught us was to make sure we secured your finances and fleets. This ensured you became weak and defenceless and open to attacks from nations close to you.
It was at that point of being intellectually out manoeuvred that you became the satellite nation of France.
VIVA LA FRANCE!
Then to rub it in we gave you a lesson at Camperdown and took all your possessions and trading posts.
It ain't how many battles you win, son, it's how you win the war. ;)
Beorn
10-09-2009, 03:34 PM
It's an invasion. They toppled the government and installed their Dutch Prince as the new King of England (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_III_of_England). I don't know how this is any less significant than William the Conqueror's Norman invasion of England in 1066. You just hear less about it, that's all.
That is not an invasion. We invited his wife to assume the crown and he tagged along.
Britain has particularly close military ties with Holland, Denmark and Norway. This is a good thing. :thumb001:
Albion
09-20-2011, 12:20 AM
But this was in 1688- the Glorious Revolution when we were actually invited to intervene by the English themselves (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glorious_Revolution). 1667 was the Medway Disaster (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raid_on_the_Medway) (as the English call it- or "The Voyage to Chatham" as we call it) when the Dutch burned half the English fleet and took home the other half in a daring raid. ;)
The most expensive mercenaries there ever were. The lesser of the two evils I believe.
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