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Loki
09-03-2013, 08:16 PM
Discuss.

Here is a bit from CNN as background:

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/09/03/opinion/frum-syria-four-questions/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

What will it accomplish?

A war between Bashar al-Assad's regime, Hezbollah and Iran one side and al Qaeda- style Islamic radicals on the other is a fight in which the United States has no dog.

Hurting the Assad regime inevitably means helping the rebels. True, some of the rebels are nicer than other rebels. It's also true that the nasty rebels are the faction likelier to dominate if the Assad regime falls.

In June, the nasty rebels and the nicer rebels came to violence over control of strategic checkpoints in northern Syria. The conflict ended with the nasty rebels assassinating one of the top leaders of the nicer rebels and consolidating control over the disputed territory.

So much of the debate about Syria is a debate about "how"? We are in real danger of skipping over the more important questions: "Why?" and "For whose benefit?"

Ivan Kramskoļ
09-03-2013, 08:18 PM
Making a mess that's all the usa want outside of their country.

Formozgan
09-03-2013, 08:23 PM
Possibilities
-Syria and Bashar will be able to resist the strike and attacks and keep everything under control despite suffering damages. Syrian officials seem confident they can repel a NATO attack with the Russian anti-missile and anti-aircraft shields they have.

-Bashar will be ousted, but guerrilla groups of the people of Syria supported by Iran will arise, in a way similar to Hezbollah. Remember 70% of Syria supports Bashar.

-"Nice secular" rebels would be annihilated as they are the smallest group, then the whole battle will be between resistance guerillas vs. NATO backed al qaeda.

Loki
09-03-2013, 08:25 PM
^ Good post Formozgan, but the question is ... what do the Americans hope to accomplish? It gets shady when you think of it ...

StonyArabia
09-03-2013, 08:29 PM
Jordan has rejected being used as launching pad, which is positive move

http://en.alalam.ir/news/1510507

Formozgan
09-03-2013, 08:29 PM
Jordan has rejected being used as launching pad, which is positive move

http://en.alalam.ir/news/1510507

This is an interesting move. What about Turkey?

Loki
09-03-2013, 08:30 PM
This is an interesting move. What about Turkey?

Turkey is all for war, of course. Or rather, Erdoshitgan. :picard1:

Formozgan
09-03-2013, 08:32 PM
Turkey is all for war, of course. Or rather, Erdoshitgan. :picard1:

Erdogan some months ago said he cut off the support to rebel due to the pressure being put by protests in Turkey.

http://www.worldbulletin.net/?aType=haber&ArticleID=108767




World Bulletin/News Desk

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said Sunday his country will exercise extreme caution against what he described as provocations to draw Turkey into the conflict in Syria.

"We need to be extremely cautious, sensitive and most importantly extremely calm in the face of provocations that are aimed at dragging us into the bloody quagmire in Syria," Erdogan told a meeting of his ruling Justice and Development Party in Istanbul.

Erdogan's remarks came a day after twin car bombings in a Turkish town near the Syrian border killed at least 46 people and wounded more than 100 others.

Turkish officials blamed the attacks on a group linked to Syria's "mukhabarat," Arabic word for intelligence referring to spy agencies.

Saturday's double bombings in the Reyhanli town just across Syria's Idlib province were the deadliest cross-border spillover since the Syrian revolt began in March 2011.

In October, a stray artillery round landed in the Akcakale town near the Syrian border, killing five. Turkey retaliated to the cross-border aggression by shelling targets inside Syria. In June, Syrian forces shot down a Turkish jet flying in international airspace and in February this year a car bombing killed 14 people at the Cilvegozu border crossing, which was also blamed on Syrian intelligence services.

Turkish Interior Minister Muammer Guler said nine people have been detained in connection with the explosions, which took place 15 minutes apart at a crowded shopping district and outside a post office. The blasts were so powerful that it ripped through entire buildings and left hulks of twisted metal and charred skeletons from cars scattered over the streets.

Guler later said "the primary and secondary perpetrators" of the twin bombings were Turkish nationals. He also said that the attacks were masterminded from Syria.

Guler said plastic explosives were smuggled into Hatay province and they were rigged to the vehicles there.

He said around 450 businesses, 62 vehiles, 11 government buildings and 293 apartments were damaged in the explosions. Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu said in Berlin that those detained were affiliated with a former Marxist terrorist organization which he said had "direct links" to the Syrian regime.

Turkish Deputy Prime Minister Besir Atalay said the suspects' involvement in the attacks were determined "through their testimonies and confessions."

He said authorities had identified so far 38 people who died in the blasts, adding three of them were Syrian nationals.

Turkish Health Minister Mehmet Muezzinoglu said 55 people were still at hospitals with two of them were in critical condition.

StonyArabia
09-03-2013, 08:38 PM
This is an interesting move. What about Turkey?

I have no idea. Jordan does not want to be destabilized as result and might get itself in tangled into a sectarian war. Jordan has been uneasy since the Iraq war, and now with the Syrian civil war. At the same time Jordan has been flooded by Syrian refugees, which it's trying to takecare of them. The Hashamite monarchy wants to keep itself as isolated as much possible. Despite the Jordanians being anti-Assad they prefer to oust him through diplomatic means, and are against outside interference.