Classify this blonde algerian from Tlemcen

[madridi4verrr]

http://z3.ifrm.com/67/29/0/p484045/image.jpg
http://z3.ifrm.com/67/29/0/p484046/image.jpg
http://z3.ifrm.com/67/29/0/p484047/image.jpg
http://z3.ifrm.com/67/29/0/p484048/image.jpg

[Atlantic Islander]

In the third photo he looks like Henry Cavill.

[Anglojew]

Looks CM. Could be French

[1stLightHorse]

Looks CM. Could be French

I would've guessed French too, or Belgian.

[Anglojew]

I would've guessed French too, or Belgian.

Yeah, he has a Van Damme/villeneuve thing going on

[Armand_Duval]

Looks like he has a borreby admixture.

[aherne]

Afalou type. Can pass as European...

[Roy]

Afalou type. Can pass as European...

Yes he really looks European and this is not only his pigmentation which give this impression, but this could be as well his facial expression adding to it :)

[SkyBurn]

He actually looks very similar to me. Same hair, nose, eyes, and general features. Strange.

[Not a Cop]

Looks like he has a borreby admixture.

My thought too looks like borreby+med inf

[Roy]

Afalou type. Can pass as European...

I think this is rather Vandal re-emergence in him.

edit:
Could be also something more recent - for example European parent.

[Artek]

Wow, Algerian that could even pass in Poland and many other countries.

[Lábaru]

He actually looks very similar to me. Same hair, nose, eyes, and general features. Strange.


you are more gracile/soft features.

[SkyBurn]

you are more gracile/soft features.

I have less of a jaw, and a rounder face, but other than that do you see a resemblance?

[WOOHP]

Pied Noir.

This guy looks French.

[Lábaru]

I have less of a jaw, and a rounder face, but other than that do you see a resemblance?

No, maybe pigmentation, to my eyes this Algerian have an(slightly) exotic face.

[SkyBurn]

No, maybe pigmentation, to my eyes this Algerian have an(slightly) exotic face.

Are you saying I'm not exotic? :(

Anyway, I think that he doesn't show many non-European features. Is he just a result of genetic improbability with berber input?

[Twistedmind]

Blonde? He looks light brown on most of pictures to be honest. Berberid with Nordo-Mediteranid strains. Berberids (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?13698-Questions-Southern-Cromagnoids%28Berberids-and-peripheral-types%29) can be light

[Lábaru]

Are you saying I'm not exotic? :(

Anyway, I think that he doesn't show many non-European features. Is he just a result of genetic improbability with berber input?

I do not know your ancestors, I can not tell if you're exotic, this man I do not see him fitting in anywhere, perhaps in America where there is plenty diversity.

[Empecinado]

Tlemcen received 50.000 Moriscos and was called the North African Granada. Light eyes, blond hair and Europid features are not uncommon in the cities where they settled.

[Smeagol]

He is not blonde. Original CM Berber type.

[Roy]

He is not blonde. Original CM Berber type.

His hair is dark blonde in first picture for 100%.
But I am also not sure how to call this colour to be honest. :confused:
Still definitely more blonde than let's say ... Dexter Morgan or Zarathustra :rolleyes:


This is light brown according to me just to keep it straight:

http://cf.ltkcdn.net/hair/images/slide/145440-505x565r1-light-ash-brown.jpg

[madridi4verrr]

He is not blonde. Original CM Berber type.

Yes , maybe he's just a depigmented berberid

[kollaps]

French.

[blogen]

So he is a blonde in Algeria.

[Ivan Kramskoï]

I tend to consider european features to be quite unique and common only to europeans and that even depigmented non europeans could never pass in europe have to admitt that this personn could perfectly fit in Europe.

[Übermensch]

he is not blond anyway mechta-aflou type reemergence,could pass in Europe.

[Smeagol]

I tend to consider european features to be quite unique

No such thing as European features. A Sicilian, or Greek for example would look much closer to a Lebanese than a Russian.

[Übermensch]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/v/1290106_574737069257646_500133532_n.jpg?oh=5f5848b b58100dbe09d4e5b0c34774d6&oe=522DE9E0&__gda__=1378798668_7c0b8129096b8d4ff8ab395be690a83 e


this is my hair by the way.
Strawberry blonde,way lighter than this african.

[Ivan Kramskoï]

No such thing as European features. A Sicilian, or Greek for example would look much closer to a Lebanese than a Russian.
True it must be my will to put all europeans together, while culturally it could succede, biologically not.
I heard that sicilians are closer genetically to levantines than to north eastern euros ^^

[Smeagol]

I heard that sicilians are closer genetically to levantines than to north eastern euros ^^

Yes.

[Ivan Kramskoï]

Yes.
I was kinda pissed off when I learned this ^^

[kollaps]

I tend to consider european features to be quite unique and common only to europeans and that even depigmented non europeans could never pass in europe have to admitt that this personn could perfectly fit in Europe.

Yes. Because he is French. Partially at least. You guys seriously believe there are Algerians who have lived in Algeria for thousands of years and are a modern manifestation of ancient light Berber/Vandal types? Come on, light Berbers (Zidane) look Med, this guy has northern French features, look at the second picture.

[Smeagol]

I was kinda pissed off when I learned this ^^

It's the same with Greeks, and south Italians.

[Smeagol]

Yes. Because he is French. Partially at least. You guys seriously believe there are Algerians who have lived in Algeria for thousands of years and are a modern manifestation of ancient light Berber/Vandal types? Come on, light Berbers (Zidane) look Med, this guy has northern French features, look at the second picture.

The original North Africans were Cro-Magnons, not Meds.

[YeshAtid]

It's the same with Greeks, and south Italians.

Cypriots ?

[Smeagol]

Cypriots ?

Cypriots what?

[YeshAtid]

Cypriots what?

Do you consider them southern european or levantine ?

[Smeagol]

Do you consider them southern european or levantine ?

Levantine.

[Stormer99]

Do you consider them southern european or levantine ?

Cypriots are not European but a lot of people consider them so because they are Christian and have Western Civilization.

[Stormer99]

European is largely a geographical and political construct. If Cypriots were Islamic they would not be defined as European.

[YeshAtid]

European is largely a geographical and political construct. If Cypriots were Islamic they would not be defined as European.

True

[Stormer99]

True

According to this social construct, I'm supposed to relate to a Finn more than an Armenian based on geography.

[YeshAtid]

According to this social construct, I'm supposed to relate to a Finn more than an Armenian based on geography.

Although Bosnians are considered European

[Stormer99]

Although Bosnians are considered European

Yes they are but many idiots define them as not such because they are Muslim.

[Stormer99]

I stop European at Sicilian and Maltese. It would be ridiculous to define Cypriots as European when they are 70% Middle Eastern genetically.

[madridi4verrr]

Seperating people with the same gene pool .
http://t.qkme.me/35cx7d.jpg

[Empecinado]

What surname he has? Perhaps it could say us about his ancestry.

[kollaps]

I stop European at Sicilian and Maltese. It would be ridiculous to define Cypriots as European when they are 70% Middle Eastern genetically.

Lol, 70% is too much. Cypriots cluster genetically with Greeks (among others), so obviously they can't be 70% Middle Eastern when Greeks are ~0%.

[Stormer99]

Lol, 70% is too much. Cypriots cluster genetically with Greeks (among others), so obviously they can't be 70% Middle Eastern when Greeks are ~0%.

Cypriots do not cluster with mainland Greeks. They cluster at the end of the Sephardic Jews.

[Smeagol]

Lol, 70% is too much. Cypriots cluster genetically with Greeks (among others), so obviously they can't be 70% Middle Eastern when Greeks are ~0%.

No.
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/5255/pcacaucasus.png

[Stormer99]

Some people would cluster with nobody. Someone half Moroccan, Mozabite, or even half Egyptian and half European would cluster in the black space of the screen and with no population in particular.

[ariel]

levantine component is not a middle eastern but med.

[Anthropologique]

Doubt if he's fully native. Looks French or British.

[Stormer99]

Cypriots cluster closer to Druze than to other Southern Europeans yet there is a delusion they are 100% European.

[ariel]

Cypriots cluster closer to Druze than to other Southern Europeans yet there is a delusion they are 100% European.

and levantines cluster closer to italians and sardinians/

[kollaps]

@Horatio: I can't really read the map you posted there. And I don't see Greeks in it so we don't know where they would be (somewhere between Cypriots and Tuscans I imagine). But based in common sense and observation, 70% *Middle Eastern* (Middle East = Iraq, Saudi Arabia etc) for Cypriots is ridiculous.

[Stormer99]

@Horatio: I can't really read the map you posted there. And I don't see Greeks in it so we don't know where they would be (somewhere between Cypriots and Tuscans I imagine). But based in common sense and observation, 70% *Middle Eastern* (Middle East = Iraq, Saudi Arabia etc) for Cypriots is ridiculous.

The Middle Eastern in Cypriots would be closer to Druze. I'm not talking about Saudi Arabia or Iraq.

[ariel]

The Middle Eastern in Cypriots would be closer to Druze. I'm not talking about Saudi Arabia or Iraq.

and again levantine component is med :picard2:

[Stormer99]

and again levantine component is med :picard2:

It is the East Med component in the EU test.

[ariel]

It is the East Med component in the EU test.

so? this different from arabian component . and this med .

[Stormer99]

so? this different from arabian component . and this med .

I never said it was the same component. There are different ethnic groups within the territory called the Middle East.

[madridi4verrr]

What surname he has? Perhaps it could say us about his ancestry.

He's not a celebrity but 100% algerian ...