R1a1a R-M198 SNP Map

[Mark]

This is my Subclade.

http://i.imgur.com/PhvIcPA.png

[Annihilus]

You are most likely R1a1a1b2a2b1a (CTS6)

http://www.isogg.org/tree/ISOGG_HapgrpR.html

[Graham]

Fairly spread out. Is that a red dot on the Burmese border?

[Mark]

Fairly spread out. Is that a red dot on the Burmese border?
Yes, it seems to be. For some reason, the image is displaying squashed - but if you right-click and view image, it will display in it's original size.

[Mark]

You are most likely R1a1a1b2a2b1a (CTS6)

http://www.isogg.org/tree/ISOGG_HapgrpR.html
Makes sense, but the vast majority of matches I have gotten were R1a1a1g* - I haven't seen any R1a1a1b matches yet.

[Artek]

This is my Subclade.

http://i.imgur.com/PhvIcPA.png
How many markers do you have, can you paste them to me? You are by 100% positive to M198 but also very likely to be positive with many other SNP's.

http://www.eupedia.com/images/content/R1a-tree.gif
http://www.eupedia.com/images/content/R1a-Z93-tree.gif

and less intelligible, draft R1a tree posted below:

http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l625/ft-d/SNP/M417drafttree46n_zpse47cbefc.jpg

[riverman]

Is this the "western variant" of R1a?

[Mark]

How many markers do you have, can you paste them to me? You are by 100% positive to M198 but also very likely to be positive with many other SNP's.
I will look in a little while and give you that information. Thanks.

[Mark]

Is this the "western variant" of R1a?
I have no idea really.

[Artek]

Is this the "western variant" of R1a?
Could be but...this map shows all variants of R1a along with "Indo-Iranian" Z93, "Balto-Slavic" Z280,"Germanic" L664,"Germanic" Z284, "West-Slavic" M458 etc. Also remember about terrible oversampling of Brits.

[Mark]

:: UPDATE ::

I have my results. It turns out that I am R1a1a1g - clad L1029 - West Slav/Central Europe branch. See map below:


http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/4236/r1ach.jpg

[Maleficent]

:: UPDATE ::

I have my results. It turns out that I am R1a1a1g - clad L1029 - West Slav/Central Europe branch. See map below:


http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/4236/r1ach.jpg

Mark is a Slav now! :(

[Smaug]

Where were your Ashkenazi ancestors from? It is very plausible they had Slavic ancestry.

[Mark]

Where were your Ashkenazi ancestors from? It is very plausible they had Slavic ancestry.
Germany and Poland mostly. But a Patrilineal Great Grandfather down the line was Lutheran according to paper trail.

[Smaug]

Germany and Poland mostly. But a Patrilineal Great Grandfather down the line was Lutheran according to paper trail.

A Great Grandfather of yours married a Jewess? That was back in the early 19th century, it probably was very rare back then.

[Mark]

A Great Grandfather of yours married a Jewess? That was back in the early 19th century, it probably was very rare back then.
I think it was actually a 12th Grandparent, but not sure. My family has always mixed to a degree; most of my cousins are at least.

[Artek]

That's the newest project map, actually. But it doesn't change much in your case, just adds an additional SNP you must be positive to:
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/7421/npzh.jpg

[Mark]

That's the newest project map, actually. But it doesn't change much in your case, just adds an additional SNP you must be positive to:

So essentially, L1029 are 'Proto-Slavs' falling in between Scandinavians and Balts and are most likely Sorbs and/ or Polabian?

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Where can I get a map like this one for mine Haplogroup? Thanks

[Mark]

Where can I get a map like this one for mine Haplogroup? Thanks
These were taken mostly from FamilyTreeDNA (http://www.familytreedna.com/v3/default_ffMTdo.aspx?utm_expid=75158416-0.YM7zSajuTrCmK4sqZhCZ6w.3&utm_referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Furl%3Fs a%3Dt%26rct%3Dj%26q%3D%26esrc%3Ds%26source%3Dweb%2 6cd%3D1%26ved%3D0CEcQFjAA%26url%3Dhttp%253A%252F%2 52Fwww.familytreedna.com%252F%26ei%3DgylnUtKgFO33i gL0ioDYCA%26usg%3DAFQjCNGs2H8hSUB80G_EDcbhz3LaouZm-w%26bvm%3Dbv.55123115%2Cd.cGE) but are R1a* specific.

[Artek]

Where can I get a map like this one for mine Haplogroup? Thanks
http://www.eupedia.com/images/content/J2-tree.gif


So essentially, L1029 are 'Proto-Slavs' falling in between Scandinavians and Balts and are most likely Sorbs and/ or Polabian?
Sorbs are mostly L260+ to which you are negative but many other West-Slavic descendants are L1029.

This is a distribution of confirmed L1029 basing on some results from FTDNA:
http://www.semargl.me/en/dna/ydna/haplotypes/maps/371/

You can join this project as well, they have a jewish cluster under L1029. I will say more - you must join this project and I recommend it, because I'm a member myself!
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/r1a/default.aspx

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

http://www.eupedia.com/images/content/J2-tree.gif


Sorbs are mostly L260+ to which you are negative but many other West-Slavic descendants are L1029.

This is a distribution of confirmed L1029 basing on some results from FTDNA:
http://www.semargl.me/en/dna/ydna/haplotypes/maps/371/

You can join this project as well, they have a jewish cluster under L1029. I will say more - you must join this project and I recommend it, because I'm a member myself!
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/r1a/default.aspx
Thanks for the map.

J2 M172 my Subclade.

[Artek]

Thanks for the map.

J2 M172 my Subclade.
I bet you are positive to many other SNP's under M172, just need to pay more money for the FTDNA ;D

[noricum]

http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu227/roapazeinli/old_carpathian_zps273621c2.png (http://s650.photobucket.com/user/roapazeinli/media/old_carpathian_zps273621c2.png.html)

[Artek]

This is mine
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/8581/8jtd.jpg

[Mark]

Mine.
http://i.imgur.com/dPamKhO.png

[xajapa]

Hey Mark. I am L1029 as well. If you wish to send me a PM, perhaps we can see how far back we go to our common ancestor. If you have tested for at least 67 markers you will be listed on semargl.com by your FTDNA or YSearch i.d. number: http://www.semargl.me/en/dna/ydna/haplotypes/table/371/. If you test up to 111 markers, you will listed on these trees that people like Vladimir (semargl) and others do every so often: [/url] http://www.semargl.me/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/R1aTree20121009.png.

[Mark]

I was just sent this from an FTDNA group I belong to:

Very general guide to SNPs for R1a1a1:

R-L664/cts7083 R1a1a1a* has 388=10, mostly British

R-Z283 R1a1a1b1 most project members are Z283+.

R-Z282 R1a1a1b1a

R-M458 R1a1a1b1a1 This group is common to Poland/Germany/associated regions

R-L260 R1a1a1b1a1a* 385a=10 (mostly)

R-CTS11962 R1a1a1b1a1b

R-L1029* R1a1a1b1a1b1*

R-Z280 R1a1a1b1a2 This group is generally central European, some eastern

R-Z92=z660=Z661 R1a1a1b1a2a* Many Baltic

R-cts1211 R1a1a1b1a2b

R-P278 R1a1a1b1a2b1*

R-L784 R1a1a1b1a2b2*

R-cts3402 R1a1a1b1a2b3

R-L365 R1a1a1b1a2b3a

R-F2686* R1a1a1b1a2b3a1*

R-L366* R1a1a1b1a2b3b*

R-L1280* R1a1a1b1a2b3c* 385b=13 usually

R-Z284 R1a1a1b1a3 This group is generally Scandinavian/northwestern European

R-L448 R1a1a1b1a3a Base Scandinavian

R-cts4179 R1a1a1b1a3a1 Base Scandinavian

R-L176.1* s179. R1a1a1b1a3a1a* Scottish, Young Scandinavian mostly: 459a/b=8/10, b=19,21

R-z288 R1a1a1b1a3b Old Scandinavian

R-cts8401 R1a1a1b1a3b1

R-Z87,88 R1a1a1b1a3b1a*

R-cts8277 R1a1a1b1a3b2*

R-CTS4027 R1a1a1b1a3c*

R-Z93 R1a1a1b2 This group is generally Asian and Eastern European

R-L342.2/S278.2, Z94 R1a1a1b2a

R-Z94=L342.2 R1a1a1b2a

R-L657 R1a1a1b2a1 Most common to Indians, Arabs

R-Y7* R1a1a1b2a1a*

R-Y6* R1a1a1b2a1b*

R-Z2124 R1a1a1b2a2

R-Z2123* R1a1a1b2a2a* Includes Bakshir

R-Z2122 R1a1a1b2a2b

R-F1345 R1a1a1b2a2b1

R-cts6/ash-lev R1a1a1b2a2b1a* Ashkenazi-Levites

R-F2935 R1a1a1b2a2b1b*

R-Y57* R1a1a1b2a2b2* there is a group of European folk who fall into this group

M458 is my subclade

[kece]

I just had Y-DNA done by FtDna, and my haplogroup on my paternal line showed nothing. I called and asked if there was a problem with my sample, and was told no that the sample was good, it is just that I am a rarity. According to my Y-DNA I have a R-M198...........I am curious about this and was wondering if someone might explain to me what this actually means? When I had asked FtDna, I was told by 2 agents that my DNA was the first that they had ever seen. I came across this group in hoping for some answers to this?

[Artek]

I just had Y-DNA done by FtDna, and my haplogroup on my paternal line showed nothing. I called and asked if there was a problem with my sample, and was told no that the sample was good, it is just that I am a rarity. According to my Y-DNA I have a R-M198...........I am curious about this and was wondering if someone might explain to me what this actually means? When I had asked FtDna, I was told by 2 agents that my DNA was the first that they had ever seen. I came across this group in hoping for some answers to this?
Hello Kece, can you join R1a Project? I'm one of the admins there and I will take a look. Here's a link, I will be notified once you joined: https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/r-1a/activity-feed