Do vaccines cause autism? (must see)

[SilverKnight]

Do vaccines cause autism? (must see)



STUDY: http://www.rescuepost.com/files/gr-autism_and_vaccines_world_special_report1.pdf



Hey I'm doing this for you, as a friendly warning, is your problem not mines if you vaccinate you and your family.
Be thankful at least.





share this video with everyone you know. Why? Because it explains the real story of how the vaccine industry is damaging countless children while getting away with murder through a special "vaccine court" that screws parents and favors the interests of big pharma and the government.

Once you finish watching the video, help support the canary party at www.canaryparty.org (http://www.canaryparty.org)










http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv_IaLHwgAQ

[iNird]

Can't see the video.

[Vogon Poet]

No, and your video is fraudulent, just as the "studies" it refers to. I'm not especially fond of the pharmacy industry, but the vaccine hysteria is unfounded.

[SilverKnight]

Can't see the video.

Now you can :)


No, and your video is fraudulent, just as the "studies" it refers to. I'm not especially fond of the pharmacy industry, but the vaccine hysteria is unfounded.


You prob didn't watch the whole video :picard1:

There are many cases of it on kids and you still say is fraudulent. Come on use your sense.

[rhiannon]

Well if they bloody well did we'd all be autistic now wouldn't we? LOL.

The answer to that is a definitive No in almost all cases.

[Atlantic Islander]

It's total bull.

[Vogon Poet]

Now you can :)




You prob didn't watch the whole video :picard1:

There are many cases of it on kids and you still say is fraudulent. Come on use your sense.

It first claims that vaccines cause autism. It claims that there is a correlation, a correlation that is as meaningful as the correlation between the increase in inflation and autism over the years. Then it claims that studies support this, without citing any of them. The studies I know of were all fraudulent. Thus it never proves that claim. That's about the first minute of the talk. What follows is a description of how pharmaceutical companies are protected by government regulations. Which is true in some degree, but for some reason only singles out vaccines. The video sheds light on the corrupt regulations put on by government. Otherwise, it's completely bull. You and your ilk are a bunch of anti-vaccine Luddites.

[Aurora]

I don't know, but vaccines are nasty.
Vaccines contain ingredients such as MSG, antifreeze, phenol (used as a disinfectant), formaldehyde (cancer causing and used to embalm), aluminum (associated with alzheimer’s disease and seizures), glycerin (toxic to the kidney, liver, can cause lung damage, gastrointestinal damage and death), lead, cadmium, sulfates, yeast proteins, antibiotics, acetone (used in nail polish remover), neomycin and streptomycin. And the ingredient making the press is thimerosol (more toxic than mercury, a preservative still used in many vaccines, not easily eliminated, can cause severe neurological damage as well as other life threatening autoimmune disease). These vaccines are grown and strained through animal or human tissue, like monkey and dog kidney tissue, chick embryo, insect cells, calf serum, human diploid cells (the dissected organs of aborted fetuses), pig blood, horse blood and rabbit brain.

[SilverKnight]

Well if they bloody well did we'd all be autistic now wouldn't we? LOL.

The answer to that is a definitive No in almost all cases.


It first claims that vaccines cause autism. It claims that there is a correlation, a correlation that is as meaningful as the correlation between the increase in inflation and autism over the years. Then it claims that studies support this, without citing any of them. The studies I know of were all fraudulent. Thus it never proves that claim. That's about the first minute of the talk. What follows is a description of how pharmaceutical companies are protected by government regulations. Which is true in some degree, but for some reason only singles out vaccines. The video sheds light on the corrupt regulations put on by government. Otherwise, it's completely bull. You and your ilk are a bunch of anti-vaccine Luddites.





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Aluminum has never been tested by the FDA for safety
Aluminum has been exempted from testing for safety by the FDA and has been classified as GRAS (Generally Regarded As Safe). It has never been tested by the FDA for its safety. Yet, there are numerous studies confirming the adverse effects of aluminum. This means vaccine manufacturers can technically say Aluminum is 'safe', even though it's a neurotoxin. There are no enforceable regulations on Aluminum. Agencies such as the EPA or FDA cannot enforce any organization to comply with their recommendations.








Even minimal exposure to Aluminum through vaccines can provoke autoimmune disorders
Experimental evidence shows that simultaneous administration of as little as two to three immune adjuvants, or repeated stimulation of the immune system by the same antigen, can overcome genetic resistance to autoimmunity.5

Aluminum adjuvants have a potential to induce serious immunological disorders in humans. In particular, aluminum in adjuvant form (from vaccines) carries a risk for autoimmunity, long-term brain inflammation and associated neurological complications and may thus have profound and widespread adverse health consequences.4

Vaccines can induce the appearances of autoantibodies, enigmatic inflammatory condition, and overt autoimmune disease. Of which, non-specific manifestations such as arthritis, neuronal damage, fatigue, encephalitis and vasculitis were frequently described.26

A variety of conditions encompassed by the 'Autoimmune/inflammatory syndrome induced by adjuvants' (ASIA) have been linked to exposure to aluminum (Al) vaccine adjuvants. These conditions include: Siliconosis, the Gulf war syndrome (GWS), the macrophagic myofasciitis syndrome (MMF), and post-vaccination phenomena. Furthermore, these four diseases share a similar complex of signs and symptoms: Myalgia (muscle pain), myositis (inflamed, damaged muscles) or muscle weakness, arthralgia (pain in joints) and/or arthritis (inflammation of joints), chronic fatigue, un-refreshing sleep or sleep disturbances, neurological manifestations (especially associated with demyelination (degeneration of nerves)), cognitive impairment, memory loss, pyrexia (fever), dry mouth, appearance of auto-antibodies or antibodies directed at the suspected adjuvant, irritable bowel syndrome, evolvement of an autoimmune disease (i.e. Multiple Sclerosis).5

Recently, autoantibody, production was studied in 92 healthy medical workers after influenza vaccination. For subjects with autoantibodies before vaccination, increased titers were documented 1 and 6 months post-vaccination in 11% and 13% of them respectively. Moreover 4 participants developed de novo (new) autoantibodies 6 months after vaccination, one of them with very high titers alluding to a possible long-lasting effect. In addition to the appearance of autoantibodies, clinical presentations or mild exacerbations of an autoimmune disease were occasionally observed following vaccinations. Autoimmune diseases develop in individuals who are genetically susceptible after their immune system is triggered (i.e., by infection or vaccine). Avoiding such a triggering stimulus may allow an individual to remain asymptomatic throughout his or her life.24

The increased risk of autoimmunity among recipients of a certain vaccine may stem not only from its antigenic-mediated responses but also from other constituents of the vaccine, such as yeast, adjuvant and preservative. For example adjuvants have been added to vaccines to improve their immunogenicity. However, alongside their supportive role they were found to themselves inflict an illness of autoimmune nature, defined as "adjuvant disease".24

Influenza vaccine, like most human vaccines, is capable of inducing immune responses and includes also an adjuvant and other components that can increase its autoimmune pathogenicity (ability to cause harm). Thus, for the minority of individuals who are probably genetically susceptible, as well as for patients with active Systemic lupus erythematosus (SLE) disease, the influenza vaccine, among others, may trigger an overt autoimmune disease.24

The latency period between immunization and autoimmunity ranges between days to years. An individuals susceptibility (for example, relating to genetic factors) might have an important role in vaccine–autoimmunity interactions.25

Aluminum has a range of mechanisms inwhich it causes inflammation: 27



Aluminum is a pro-oxidant (induces oxidative stress) which inturn induces an inflammation response.
Aluminum induces an inflammation response known as NALP3 inflammasome (associated with autoimmune disease).
Aluminum itself can be antigenic (elicits the response of antibodies).



Aluminum (found in vaccines) is a potential factor for the induction of inflammation in Crohn's disease (chronic inflammation of the intestines), and its immune activities share many characteristics with the immune pathology of Crohn's disease. The Crohn's disease mucosa is confronted with numerous inappropriate bacterial components adsorbed on the aluminum compound surface, constituting a pro-inflammatory supra-adjuvant. Aluminum fits the diagnostic criteria of the newly described autoimmune/inflammatory syndrome induced by adjuvants (ASIA).34
Other studies correlating Aluminum with illness
Macrophagic myofasciitis (MMF) is characterized by specific muscle lesions with long-term persistence of aluminum hydroxide at the site of previous immunization. Macrophagic myofasciitis lesions show an ongoing local immune reaction, and are detected in patients with systemic symptoms which appeared subsequently to vaccination. Affected patients mainly complain of arthromyalgias (joint and muscle pain), chronic fatigue, and cognitive difficulties. One-third of patients with macrophagic myofasciitis develop autoimmune disease.17, 18, 19

In preterm infants, prolonged intravenous feeding with solutions containing aluminum is associated with impaired neurologic development.We estimate that for infants receiving full intravenous feeding (approx 180ml per kilogram every 24 hours) with a mean aluminum intake of 45μg per kilogram per day, the expected reduction in the Bayley Mental Development Index (a score of 50 to 150) would be, on average, one point per day of intravenous feeding. The former (infants who received an intravenous feeding solution with higher amounts of aluminum) were significantly more likely (39 percent, vs. 17 percent of the latter group; P = 0.03) to have a Mental Development Index of less than 85, increasing their risk of subsequent educational problems.28

Young, male colony CD-1 mice were injected with the (aluminum) adjuvants at doses equivalent to those given to US military service personnel. Subsequent testing showed:



Motor deficits expressed as a progressive decrease in strength (50%).
Significant cognitive deficits in water-maze learning (4.3 vs 0.2 errors per trial).
Significant motor neuron loss in the lumbar spinal cord (35%).
Significantly increased numbers of astrocytes (cells that are expressed when the nervous system is injured and needs repair) in the lumbar spinal cord (350%).
Significantly increased activated caspase-3 (protein that promotes programmed cell death) labeling in lumbar spinal cord (255%) and primary motor cortex (192%).

The findings suggest a possible role for the aluminum adjuvant in some neurological features associated with Gulf War Illness (GWI).29

Vaccine-exposed and saline-injected control infants (macaques) underwent MRI and PET imaging at approximately 4 and 6 months of age, representing two specific timeframes within the vaccination schedule. Maturational changes in amygdala (part of the brain involved in processing and expressing emotions) volume was significantly altered in infant macaques receiving the vaccine schedule (the complete US vaccine schedule that was given in 1994-1999).30

We conclude that exposure of Hepa1-6 cells (mouse liver cells) to a low dose of (aluminum) adjuvanted hepatitis B vaccine leads to loss of mitochondrial integrity, apoptosis (programmed cell death) induction, and cell death.31
Studies show Aluminum is also correlated with Autism
Aluminum (Al), the most commonly used vaccine adjuvant, is a demonstrated neurotoxin and a strong immune stimulator. Hence, adjuvant Al has the potential to induce neuroimmune disorders. Our results show that:

(i) children from countries with the highest ASD prevalence appear to have the highest exposure to Al from vaccines;
(ii) the increase in exposure to Al adjuvants significantly correlates with the increase in ASD prevalence in the United States observed over the last two decades (Pearson r = 0.92, p < 0.0001); and
(iii) a significant correlation exists between the amounts of Al administered to preschool children and the current prevalence of ASD in seven Western countries, particularly at 3–4 months of age (Pearson r = 0.89–0.94, p = 0.0018–0.0248).
The data indicates that the correlation between Al in vaccines and ASD may be causal.12







http://s24.postimg.org/58n9mkrxx/autismtrends1.jpg (http://postimage.org/)


http://s24.postimg.org/6c7dyjcl1/Correlation_Between_Aluminum_Autism_Spectrum_D.png (http://postimage.org/)






Hepatitis B Vaccine: Refuse This Routine Procedure – Or Expose Your Baby's Brain to Severe Danger



Well known cases:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=78b1rFJgyXI










Hepatitis B vaccination has been recommended by federal health officials since 1991 for all infants and children.
There are now hepatitis B vaccine mandates for children to attend daycare or school in 47 states, despite strong evidence that the health risks of doing this outweighs the benefits for your child.
Three hepatitis B shots are part of the standard government-recommended childhood vaccination schedule,1 (http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/11/03/hepatitis-b-vaccines-at-birth.aspx#_edn1) with the first dose given at 12 hours of age in the newborn nursery of most hospitals.
But hepatitis B is a primarily blood-transmitted disease associated with risky lifestyle choices, such as unprotected sex with multiple partners and intravenous drug use involving sharing needles—it is NOT primarily a "children's disease."
As Dr. Jane Orient (http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/01/02/hepatitis-b-vaccine-part-four.aspx) of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) so eloquently testified to Congress:
"With hepatitis B vaccine, the case for mandatory immunization with few exemptions is far less persuasive than with smallpox or polio vaccines, which protected against highly lethal or disabling, relatively common, and easily transmissible diseases...
"For most children, the risk of a serious vaccine reaction may be 100 times greater than the risk of hepatitis B."

There are more reports of serious adverse reactions in children than there are cases of childhood hepatitis B reported in America and, despite what you may hear in the media, reactions can be serious.
Just this month, China Daily reported 44 children became sick 2 (http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/11/03/hepatitis-b-vaccines-at-birth.aspx#_edn2) and were taken to the hospital after receiving injections from a "bad batch" of hepatitis B vaccine. After examining the side effects of this vaccine, you might wonder if every batch is a "bad batch."
In 2008, French authorities launched a criminal investigation of two vaccine company managers (from GlaxoSmithKline and Sanofi Pasteur) for failing to disclose dangerous side effects of their hepatitis B vaccines (http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/02/23/vaccine-companies-investigated-for-manslaughter.aspx).
When babies die after hep B vaccinations, most of the time their deaths are automatically attributed to SIDS (Sudden Infant Death Syndrome) without investigation into whether the vaccine caused the baby's sudden death.
When a baby's death is listed as "SIDS," rarely does anyone ask about the deceased infant's vaccination history to find out whether there were symptoms of vaccine reactions before death.
Hepatitis B vaccine as a contributing cause of "sudden infant death" cannot be automatically ruled out if a baby dies suddenly after getting a hepatitis B shot, especially if there were symptoms of a potential vaccine reaction before death such as:


High-pitched screaming or prolonged crying for many hours or days
Collapse/shock (pale skin, blue lips, unresponsiveness)
Excessive sleepiness (failure to feed, baby cannot be easily awakened)
Fever, diarrhea, or vomiting
Hives, rashes, or swelling of the body
Convulsions (jerking of fingers, hands, arms, legs)
Other serious change in mental, emotional, or physical behavior




More citations:


Correlation Between Aluminum in Vaccines & Autism Spectrum Disorder
Lucija Tomljenoviv at al, 2011


Influence of pediatric vaccines on amygdala growth and opioid ligand binding in rhesus macaque infants: A pilot study
Laura Hewitson1, et al, Acta Neurobiol Exp 2010, 70: 147–164 Polish Neuroscience Society - PTBUN, Nencki Institute of Experimental Biology
http://adventuresinautism.com/Hewitsonetal2010.pdf


The immunobiology of aluminium adjuvants: how do they really work? Christopher Exly et al, 2010 http://wenku.baidu.com/view/2eb5008084868762caaed5d1.html




Hepatitis B vaccine induces apoptotic death in Hepa1-6 cells
Apoptosis. 2012 Jan 17. Hamza H, et al. Key Lab of Agricultural Animal Genetics, Breeding, and Reproduction of Ministry of Education, College of Animal Science and Technology, Huazhong Agricultural University, Wuhan, 430070, People's Republic of China
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22249285









I don't know, but vaccines are nasty.


:picard1:

Thank You!

People who still believe vaccines are safe have been already brainwashed. My family avoided them as much as possible, and we are perfectly fine. I'm not saying that you will automatically get it, but that there are high risks to them ! This is what they don't get. Vaccinating shouldn't be mandatory and I consider it a crime against humanity, especially the poor little ones. IS all part of eugenics programs and the sheeple are buying their shit that they are "safe".

It's not something to joke about, but laughable to some extent.

[blogen]

The the vaccination caused autism is one of the biggest bullshit ever!

[Atlantic Islander]

There was a Law & Order SVU episode about this very thing. The plot makes it seem that it's based on the Casey Anthony story (which it kind of is), but the twist ends up being about vaccinations. Hilary Duff's character reports her daughter missing and they of course end up thinking she killed the toddler because she's an irresponsible party girl, but it turns out that the daughter became very ill from the measles and that's how she died. It was all because some dumb parent decided not to vaccinate her child, and then actually took him to the park to play around children too young for vaccination when he was sick with the measles. She essentially caused the death of the toddler because she chose not to vaccinate her own kid.

The episode is called "Selfish", you guys should watch it as it pertains to the topic.

[SilverKnight]

The the vaccination caused autism is one of the biggest bullshit ever!


Tell that to this family


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMh5EaeLFMU



or this


Italian Court Rules MMR Vaccine Caused Autism: US Media Blacks Out Story

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv0TT70_Gyg




or this story



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ze_Hlkz8dDs



and more and more others...



There was a Law & Order SVU episode about this very thing. The plot makes it seem that it's based on the Casey Anthony story (which it kind of is), but the twist ends up being about vaccinations. Hilary Duff's character reports her daughter missing and they of course end up thinking she killed the toddler because she's an irresponsible party girl, but it turns out that the daughter became very ill from the measles and that's how she died. It was all because some asshole, irresponsible parent decided not to vaccinate her child, and then take him to the park to play around children too young for vaccination when he was sick with the measles. She essentially caused the death of the toddler because she chose not to vaccinate her own kid. The episode really makes you think.

The episode is called "Selfish", you guys should watch it as it pertains to the topic.



Yes my dear friend, it's called media propaganda.
This is how they manipulate you and many others. Thank God I don't buy this crap.


http://s15.postimg.org/4wqc3crjf/images_7.jpg (http://postimage.org/)


http://s15.postimg.org/6d1ulhugb/propaganda7.jpg (http://postimage.org/)


http://s15.postimg.org/dufneg9d7/propaganda_brainwashing.jpg (http://postimage.org/)


http://s15.postimg.org/o5s07412j/tv_brainwashing_zps3d53f260.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

[Atlantic Islander]

I also recently watched a documentary about it. They mention how the people that are so anti-vaccine are too young to remember the devastating effects Polio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poliomyelitis) had on children, so they've gotten complacent, as if it won't become an epidemic again if people stop vaccinating.

[Atlantic Islander]

Tell that to this family


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMh5EaeLFMU



or this


Italian Court Rules MMR Vaccine Caused Autism: US Media Blacks Out Story

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv0TT70_Gyg




or this story



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ze_Hlkz8dDs



and more and more others...






Yes my dear friend, it's called media propaganda.
This is how they manipulate you and many others. Thank God I don't buy this crap.


http://s15.postimg.org/4wqc3crjf/images_7.jpg (http://postimage.org/)


http://s15.postimg.org/6d1ulhugb/propaganda7.jpg (http://postimage.org/)


http://s15.postimg.org/dufneg9d7/propaganda_brainwashing.jpg (http://postimage.org/)


http://s15.postimg.org/o5s07412j/tv_brainwashing_zps3d53f260.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

You're the one being duped by propaganda.

[SilverKnight]

I also watched a documentary recently about it. They mention how the people that are so anti-vaccine are too young to remember the devastating effects Polio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poliomyelitis) had on children, so they've gotten complacent.


I have brought unlimited evidence to prove vaccines have a tendency to be dangerous in unnoticeable to very noticeable, and in some cases life threatening levels, and you insist that they are safe? Jesus Christ,

It goes beyond young people, people from all ages are starting to wake up to this mass silent killer and problem maker.


Again not my problem if you decide to vaccinate yourself and family. Me Aurora and others are smart enough to know better and we won't fall for the propaganda.

[Atlantic Islander]

I have brought unlimited evidence to prove vaccines have a tendency to be dangerous in unnoticeable to very noticeable, and in some cases life threatening levels, and you insist that they are safe? Jesus Christ,

It goes beyond young people, people from all ages are starting to wake up to this mass silent killer and problem maker.


Again not my problem if you decide to vaccinate yourself and family. Me Aurora and others are smart enough to know better and we won't fall for the propaganda.

I never said they were safe, but it's ridiculous to fall for such scare tactics. You've been listening to too much Jenny McCarthy.

[SilverKnight]

I never said they were safe, but it's ridiculous to fall for such scare tactics. You've been listening to too much Jenny McCarthy.


Well I rather be scared about them then not to take the issue seriously. and hey don't thumbs down me, you should be glad I'm helping you and others wake up, not mad. I don't know McCarthy who ever she is.
Have fun with the eugenics.

[SilverKnight]

More correlations:

http://s24.postimg.org/wgw1tna7p/Untitled.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/qspr2r5v5/full/)

[Atlantic Islander]

More correlations:

http://s24.postimg.org/wgw1tna7p/Untitled.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/qspr2r5v5/full/)

Wow, a random screenshot without a legitimate source.

[SilverKnight]

Wow, a random screenshot without a legitimate source.


Ups....

:thumb001:

Source/ Study: http://www.rescuepost.com/files/gr-autism_and_vaccines_world_special_report1.pdf

[Atlantic Islander]

Ups....

:thumb001:

Source/ Study: http://www.rescuepost.com/files/gr-autism_and_vaccines_world_special_report1.pdf

Again, where's the actual proof?

[SilverKnight]

Again, where's the actual proof?


Everywhere in the damn thread. Or did you missed (MORE LIKE IGNORED) all the articles and eternal studies I posted.



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[Atlantic Islander]

Everywhere in the damn thread. Or did you missed (MORE LIKE IGNORED) all the articles and eternal studies I posted.



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Again, that's not proof.

[Atlantic Islander]

It first claims that vaccines cause autism. It claims that there is a correlation, a correlation that is as meaningful as the correlation between the increase in inflation and autism over the years. Then it claims that studies support this, without citing any of them. The studies I know of were all fraudulent. Thus it never proves that claim. That's about the first minute of the talk. What follows is a description of how pharmaceutical companies are protected by government regulations. Which is true in some degree, but for some reason only singles out vaccines. The video sheds light on the corrupt regulations put on by government. Otherwise, it's completely bull. You and your ilk are a bunch of anti-vaccine Luddites.

This.

[Atlantic Islander]

I don't know, but vaccines are nasty.

Any sort of processed food that you eat contains similar preservatives - so if you eat hotdogs, turkey, bologna, bread, etc.

[SilverKnight]

Any sort of processed food that you eat contains many of the same preservatives - so if you eat hotdogs, turkey, bologna, bread, etc. you're ingesting the same toxins.


I won the argument that vaccines aren't safe and should be avoided.. but anywyas




Not all of these foods are processed. When me and my my go groceries, we buy hotdogs, blogna, turkey meat ect. The only difference between us and most of the other shoppers is, that we read the ingredients first, we put back anything that isn't good and keep the good products, and organic as well.. We eat healthy and this is why we never get sick, we are a healthy family who is going to live longer then most people.


Eugenics include:

Vaccines.
Preservatives in food (such as sodium-nitrate).
GMO foods.
Artificial coloring and flavors.
Chem trails.
Fluoridated water.

among other stuff

[Atlantic Islander]

I won the argument that vaccines aren't safe and should be avoided..

Of course you didn't since you didn't prove a single thing, nobody said that vaccines are safe, just that it's erroneous to say that they are the cause of autism when there are plenty of other possible causes.

There is no proof that vaccines are what cause autism.

[SilverKnight]

Of course you didn't since you didn't prove a single thing.


Yes I did.

If you disagree AFTER POSTING COUNTLESS ARTICLES and videos is because you're are in D - E - N - I - A - L .



Have fun with eugenics, not me :nono:

goodnight.

[Atlantic Islander]

Yes I did.

Whatever, stay deluded.

[Aurora]

Any sort of processed food that you eat contains similar preservatives - so if you eat hotdogs, turkey, bologna, bread, etc.

That's true and that is why I do not eat processed foods. I am careful about what I put in my body. I eat organic as well . I do not agree with all the additives in food or GMO etc.

[rhiannon]

I have brought unlimited evidence to prove vaccines have a tendency to be dangerous in unnoticeable to very noticeable, and in some cases life threatening levels, and you insist that they are safe? Jesus Christ,

It goes beyond young people, people from all ages are starting to wake up to this mass silent killer and problem maker.


Again not my problem if you decide to vaccinate yourself and family. Me Aurora and others are smart enough to know better and we won't fall for the propaganda.

C'mon. All the kids in my family have had this vaccine....my husband and I have had this vaccine.....most of the population has had this vaccine.

Your claims of MMR causing Autism are inflammatory. I suppose you'd be happier to see new cases of Measles, Mumps, and Rubella emerging? I don't like the idea of my child attending public school alongside kids who have not been vaccinated. Once this happens, herd immunity no longer applies.

Correlation does not equal causation. I learned this in my first year of college Psych of all things.....but the truth to this statement bears itself out.

There is a reason we don't see a lot of what used to be commonly fatal childhood maladies. Think about what you are advocating, here!

tsk tsk.

[SilverKnight]

That's true and that is why I do not eat processed foods. I am careful about what I put in my body. I eat organic as well . I do not agree with all the additives in food or GMO etc.


Aurora, have you ever had to vaccinate your child?



We are trying everything possible no to, these demonic vaccines won't touch my child and possible harm him /her. We are very aware and smart people.



How Vaccines Harm Child Brain Development - Dr Russell Blaylock MD



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QBcMYqlaDs






C'mon. All the kids in my family have had this vaccine....my husband and I have had this vaccine.....most of the population has had this vaccine.

Your claims of MMR causing Autism are inflammatory. I suppose you'd be happier to see new cases of Measles, Mumps, and Rubella emerging? I don't like the idea of my child attending public school alongside kids who have not been vaccinated. Once this happens, herd immunity no longer applies.

Correlation does not equal causation. I learned this in my first year of college Psych of all things.....but the truth to this statement bears itself out.

There is a reason we don't see a lot of what used to be commonly fatal childhood maladies. Think about what you are advocating, here!

tsk tsk.


I repeat Rhiannon, I never said I was advocating these deceases! I hate them all. I'm just simple opening a thread where vaccines are been brought to the table and questioned. Yes vaccines might be good when preventing these things, but in fact they are not as needed anymore, unless an outbreak occur, but even if an outbreak occurs or before it occurs, these vaccines need to be tested and added no aluminum. Thank Good everyone in your family is safe, but this is not the case for so many other families.


Injecting a vaccine into an organism is completely unnatural and unscientific in that it by-passes all the body's natural defenses like skin and mucous membranes of the nose, lungs and intestinal tract, giving the disease material and foreign protein/DNA direct access to the tissues, the blood, lymph and organs, exactly what the immune system is designed to prevent.
That's why vaccination is medical insanity and a crime against life

[Sikeliot]

I'm autistic and was vaccinated, but I don't know.. my father, grandfather, and uncle on that side are all autistic too.

[Neanderthal]

I wont vaccinate my kids. :)

[Atlantic Islander]

I'm autistic and was vaccinated, but I don't know.. my father, grandfather, and uncle on that side are all autistic too.

That makes it seem like it has something to do with genetics.

[larali]

With my first daughter I put off vaccinations until she was like 3, and then I did them slowly. She had a peanut allergy which she grew out of. I believe it was because we were careful with the vaccinations that she was able to overcome the allergy.

With my second daughter, I just delayed them a few months then got them as scheduled. She is fine except for eczema, which may or may not have been a problem had it not been for vaccinations.

My sister developed a progressive liver disease from her MMR at age 15.

[Roy]

It's not true!

[SilverKnight]

I'm autistic and was vaccinated, but I don't know.. my father, grandfather, and uncle on that side are all autistic too.

It could have been either one of the both.





I wont vaccinate my kids. :)


Smart, good boy .


Disturbing Data about Vaccinated Children

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7n92V-6GbU

[SilverKnight]

STILL WANT TO GET THE SHOTS!!!!!! UGH??!?!?!!!!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7k0e3kpoxE

[Aurora]

I think vaccine induced herd immunity is a myth. Most children are vaccinated so don't worry. The two schools I've had to sign exemption forms they said I was the only and for many years.

[SilverKnight]

I think vaccine induced herd immunity is a myth. Most children are vaccinated so don't worry. The two schools I've had to sign exemption forms they said I was the only and for many years.


We will try to do the same.

[Smaug]

lol x 10^49

Such a regressist mind might kill your kids. Vaccinate them please!

[SilverKnight]

lol x 10^49

Such a regressist mind might kill your kids. Vaccinate them please!



Dude, I know people who;s kids die because of this shit.

If people are naive enough to believe they need vaccines then there's
no hope for society.

[Vogon Poet]

Silverknight's sources are entirely bogus and fraudulent. They're all either from Generation Rescue or people associated with GR and anti-vaccinism, who are on the negative side of merit and have been discredited. However, through its aggressive and ceaseless campaigning in the - mainstream - media it has managed to convince fools like Silverknight based on nothing but spurious "evidence". The irony of it is that it uses far-fetched correlations to prove its point, yet one could, and rightly so, show that vaccines have ever since it was introduced greatly reduced mortality rates due to illness wherever vaccinations have been practiced. There's so much I could point out, but I think that illustrates my point.

[Pjeter Pan]

Bullshit

[Aurora]

You can read vaccine inserts here http://www.immunize.org/packageinserts/pi_diphtheria.asp you can read the warnings and precautions yourself. I'm not sure if the doctors give these out at routine vaccinations.

[rhiannon]

You can read vaccine inserts here http://www.immunize.org/packageinserts/pi_diphtheria.asp you can read the warnings and precautions yourself. I'm not sure if the doctors give these out at routine vaccinations.

Of course they do. I work in Healthcare and people are always informed. They have to be for liability purposes.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Well we have a correlation, that's just numbers and they can't be "far fetched". We have a cause, too. Aluminum and mercury and human body parts and monkey blood. What yummy ingredients. Note none of those are necessary in any way they just make it a couple percent cheaper to manufacture.

We also have a bunch of fraudulent vaccines, and a bunch that have been infected at varous times causing who knows what damage.


The the vaccination caused autism is one of the biggest bullshit ever!

Like the vaccines that were infected with monkey virus that can cause cancer is BS? Only 100 million people got that. Only a few thousand a year get polio from vaccines. No big deal.

I am not saying the case is sewn up but the idiots screeching about how safe this stuff is really have zero idea. Most of "gulf war syndrome" turns out to be the reactions to the endless vaccines you have to take to go overseas with the military. Guess you didn't know that, huh?

[Atlantic Islander]

I am not saying the case is sewn up but the idiots screeching about how safe this stuff is really have zero idea.

Not a single person in the thread has said that vaccines are 100% safe, just that there is no proof that they cause autism. The title of the post is "Do vaccines cause autism?".

[SilverKnight]

Well we have a correlation, that's just numbers and they can't be "far fetched". We have a cause, too. Aluminum and mercury and human body parts and monkey blood. What yummy ingredients. Note none of those are necessary in any way they just make it a couple percent cheaper to manufacture.

We also have a bunch of fraudulent vaccines, and a bunch that have been infected at varous times causing who knows what damage.



Like the vaccines that were infected with monkey virus that can cause cancer is BS? Only 100 million people got that. Only a few thousand a year get polio from vaccines. No big deal.

I am not saying the case is sewn up but the idiots screeching about how safe this stuff is really have zero idea. Most of "gulf war syndrome" turns out to be the reactions to the endless vaccines you have to take to go overseas with the military. Guess you didn't know that, huh?


I will avoid vaccines as much as possible. But they don't seem to get the fact that these deceases aren't even wide spread anymore and that we don't need it.






Not a single person in the tread has said that vaccines are 100% safe, just that there is no proof that they cause autism. The title of the post is "Do vaccines cause autism?".


I already posted some articles with studies that show that it can cause autism in several cases... Even the Italian court determiner it was a vaccine that caused autism on a person!

So why you insist that there's no evidence. Stop being so stubborn and admit it.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Not a single person in the tread has said that vaccines are 100% safe, just that there is no proof that they cause autism. The title of the post is "Do vaccines cause autism?".

Science doesn't prove anything, it uses those correlation thingamagigs to support or reject hypotheses. No one ever proved anything with science but when they stopped with the silicone implants people got sick a lot less, imagine that. Just as an example.

And yes that's what many of the screeching loonies do say. I don't accuse anyone in particular but this kind of propaganda repetition is unbelievable, it's all you hear in debates any more.

Believe me I have taken more of the damned things than anyone on earth and my tolerance for them seems to be wearing out. It's better than getting yellow fever but I'd strongly suggest not to take any you can avoid, especially for children. Hep B vaccine for toddlers is just ridiculous.

[Atlantic Islander]

I already posted some articles with studies that show that it can cause autism in several cases... Even the Italian court determiner it was a vaccine that caused autism on a person!

So why you insist that there's no evidence. Stop being so stubborn and admit it.


Chromosome test reveals genetic causes of autism.
(http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?93288-Chromosome-test-reveals-genetic-causes-of-autism)

[Atlantic Islander]

Science doesn't prove anything, it uses those correlation thingamagigs to support or reject hypotheses. No one ever proved anything with science but when they stopped with the silicone implants people got sick a lot less, imagine that. Just as an example.

And yes that's what many of the screeching loonies do say. I don't accuse anyone in particular but this kind of propaganda repetition is unbelievable, it's all you hear in debates any more.

Believe me I have taken more of the damned things than anyone on earth and my tolerance for them seems to be wearing out. It's better than getting yellow fever but I'd strongly suggest not to take any you can avoid, especially for children. Hep B vaccine for toddlers is just ridiculous.

There are certain vaccines that I find unnecessary, but others I think are pretty important.

I've never bothered with the Flu vaccine since I've always been naturally resistant, but that doesn't mean that others shouldn't take it.

[SkyBurn]

As a medical student who spent hours studying the immune system, vaccinations, and anti-vaxers, I think I have a valid perspective on this. I have many documents on my computer about the subject, and would like to add a few points.


1) The anti-vax "relationship" between Autism and Vaccinations have been proven to be a hoax. Look it up.

2) People who still push the connections between vaccinations and diseases almost always have an agenda despite knowing nothing about the immune system (usually due to a religious or Republican reason)

3) The statistical "harm" which is argued by fraudulent studies are FAR outweighed by the good. Personally, I think that allowing your child to get tetanus, shingles, measels, the flu, HPV etc is infinitely more irresponsible than vaccinating your children. To harm your own child to make a polical/ideological point...

4) Not only do you harm your own child by not vaccinating them, you attack the entire community. Look up 'herd immunity' - it relies on a certain quota to be reached in order to keep the entire community safe. If everybody had your mindset, smallpox would not have been eradicated (no offence).


I know I'm likely to get downvoted for this (please don't, it's my opinion and coursework, not me trying to attack you), but I feel very strongly about this issue. To allow your loved ones and your community to be harmed out of ignorance isn't something to be proud of. Most of the videos you've posted (eg Desiree Jennings) were either proven to be hoaxes or resultant from other conditions. I'm not pulling this stuff out of my ass. Perhaps you should listen to the other side of the argument before you write off your family's health.

[1stLightHorse]

I know I'm likely to get downvoted for this (please don't, it's my opinion, not me trying to attack you), but I feel very strongly about this issue. To allow your loved ones and your community to be harmed out of ignorance isn't something to be proud of. Most of the videos you've posted (eg Desiree Jennings) were either proven to be hoaxes or resultant from other conditions. I'm not pulling this stuff out of my ass. Perhaps you should listen to the other side of the argument before you write off your family's health.

If i were downvoted for a post like this, i'd consider it a badge of honour. Good post.

[Atlantic Islander]

As a medical student who spent hours studying the immune system, vaccinations, and anti-vaxers, I think I have a valid perspective on this. I have many documents on my computer about the subject, and would like to add a few points.


1) The anti-vax "relationship" between Autism and Vaccinations have been proven to be a hoax. Look it up.

2) People who still push the connections between vaccinations and diseases almost always have an agenda despite knowing nothing about the immune system (usually due to a religious or Republican reason)

3) The statistical "harm" which is argued by fraudulent studies are FAR outweighed by the good. Personally, I think that allowing your child to get tetanus, shingles, measels, the flu, HPV etc is infinitely more irresponsible than vaccinating your children. To harm your own child to make a polical/ideological point...

4) Not only do you harm your own child by not vaccinating them, you attack the entire community. Look up 'herd immunity' - it relies on a certain quota to be reached in order to keep the entire community safe. If everybody had your mindset, smallpox would not have been eradicated (no offence).


I know I'm likely to get downvoted for this (please don't, it's my opinion and coursework, not me trying to attack you), but I feel very strongly about this issue. To allow your loved ones and your community to be harmed out of ignorance isn't something to be proud of. Most of the videos you've posted (eg Desiree Jennings) were either proven to be hoaxes or resultant from other conditions. I'm not pulling this stuff out of my ass. Perhaps you should listen to the other side of the argument before you write off your family's health.

Good post.

Yep, my mother's a nurse, and she's basically said the same thing. That's why I know the whole "vaccine causes autism" thing is rubbish.

[SilverKnight]

EVEN! Dr. Oz Say No to vaccinating his own kids



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGNn_prJXhg



Shocking Testimony About Vaccines ! (SMART KID SPEAKS OUT)





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3IMSUApeW4

[1stLightHorse]

I'm not a nurse or doctor, and i have no affiliation with the medical community at all.

I did however study data analysis in University (it was my favourite course actually). Enough to differentiate between correlations and causal relationships. Another good example is Aspartame in diet coke. It is associated with brain tumours, but 100's of millions of people worldwide drink diet coke. Not only that, correlations between two variables don't take into account any other factors, for example, if the individuals always smoked cigarettes with their diet coke, or ate high sugar candy bars or even did drugs with diet coke.

Another good example is the height association with haplogroup I. I like to examine the correlation (which does exist) but it doesn't mean that the Y-dna hg I causes height.

[Atlantic Islander]

......

New research investigates inherited causes of autism (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?93288-Chromosome-test-reveals-genetic-causes-of-autism&p=1898275&viewfull=1#post1898275)

[SilverKnight]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3IMSUApeW4



Yes yes!! go ahead and drink all the aspartame, fluoride, smell all the aluminum and other chemicals and metals, vaccinate all you want not my problem!!!

[SilverKnight]

This is how I see many of you, sadly brainwashed:


http://s11.postimg.org/kqrtga1gz/45556_10151343221453459_1243619218_n.jpg (http://postimage.org/)


http://s11.postimg.org/ejl0tuv3n/196468_people_dressed_as_zombies_react_to_the_ca.j pg (http://postimage.org/)


http://s11.postimg.org/h3c2a7t9v/aspartame_soft_drink.jpg (http://postimage.org/)


http://s11.postimg.org/7wtrmxo1f/aspartame_this_is_aspartame.jpg (http://postimage.org/)


http://s11.postimg.org/3sssufs37/Aspartame.jpg (http://postimage.org/)


http://s11.postimg.org/cqdirskj7/bill_gates_vaccine_kids.jpg (http://postimage.org/)


http://s11.postimg.org/exmctgf77/tv_brainwashing_zps3d53f260.jpg (http://postimage.org/)


http://s11.postimg.org/40l14osfn/vaccinations.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

[Melina]

This is how I see many of you:


http://s11.postimg.org/kqrtga1gz/45556_10151343221453459_1243619218_n.jpg (http://postimage.org/)


http://s11.postimg.org/ejl0tuv3n/196468_people_dressed_as_zombies_react_to_the_ca.j pg (http://postimage.org/)


http://s11.postimg.org/h3c2a7t9v/aspartame_soft_drink.jpg (http://postimage.org/)


http://s11.postimg.org/7wtrmxo1f/aspartame_this_is_aspartame.jpg (http://postimage.org/)


http://s11.postimg.org/3sssufs37/Aspartame.jpg (http://postimage.org/)


http://s11.postimg.org/cqdirskj7/bill_gates_vaccine_kids.jpg (http://postimage.org/)


http://s11.postimg.org/exmctgf77/tv_brainwashing_zps3d53f260.jpg (http://postimage.org/)


http://s11.postimg.org/40l14osfn/vaccinations.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

You are falling into the same propaganda which you are against without knowing it. You have to do more research on this. Yes vaccines have side effects and yes pharmaceuticals are profiting from this. However there is a very small chance that a child can develop autism from the vaccine itself. The development of autism has more to do with genes than vaccines.

Can the components from the vaccines cause Autism? This is a very low possibility. Without vaccines however children would have problems with polio,measles,Tuberculosis,etc.

[SilverKnight]

You are falling into the same propaganda which you are against without knowing it. You have to do more research on this. Yes vaccines have side effects and yes pharmaceuticals are profiting from this. However there is a very small chance that a child can develop autism from the vaccine itself. The development of autism has more to do with genes than vaccines.

Can the components from the vaccines cause Autism? This is a very low possibility. Without vaccines however children would have problems with polio,measles,Tuberculosis,etc.


Ok True, not all cause autism, but they still can. Just for the fact that the possibilities are still there, don't you think is better to avoid? I would think so.

Anyways, data shows that these deceases )measles, tuverculosis, polio, ect) have decreased drastically, meaning there's not much need to vaccinate for them anymore.



http://s21.postimg.org/9oc4atpdj/m6011a2f2.gif (http://postimage.org/)



does it make any sense?

[SkyBurn]

Anyways, data shows that these deceases )measles, tuverculosis, polio, ect) have decreased drastically, meaning there's not much need to vaccinate for them anymore.

does it make any sense?

No.
The reason that the number is decreasing is because of consistent vaccination. That is called the 'herd immunity' effect. Stop vaccinating people, and watch the number go right back up again. These are infectious agents; just because the number of infections is going down does not make the disease any more virile. Unless the disease is eradicated (like smallpox), it's important to keep vaccinating. Even in the case of polio, which is almost eradicated, we still vaccinate until we're sure that the population is safe.

[Melina]

Ok True, not all cause autism, but they still can. Just for the fact that the possibilities are still there, don't you think is better to avoid? I would think so.

Anyways, data shows that these deceases )measles, tuverculosis, polio, ect) have decreased drastically, meaning there's not much need to vaccinate for them anymore.


http://s21.postimg.org/9oc4atpdj/m6011a2f2.gif (http://postimage.org/)



does it make any sense?

The reason that they have decreased is precisely the fact that people have been taking the vaccines.

[1stLightHorse]

This is how I see many of you, sadly brainwashed:


http://s11.postimg.org/kqrtga1gz/45556_10151343221453459_1243619218_n.jpg (http://postimage.org/)




You don't like to think much, do you?? You aren't doing any favours to your mixed-race benefits argument.:crazy:

What Bill Gates means is that in the third world, people keep having More and More children because they're afraid of the children dying from disease at a young age, mostly because of being born into squalid conditions. He doesn't mean vaccinations themselves will reduce the population. He means that vaccinating the current children will prevent the parents from continually producing more and more out of fear.:lightbul:

[Aquafina]

No. Jim Carrey is stupid!

[Atlantic Islander]

Anyways, data shows that these deceases )measles, tuverculosis, polio, ect) have decreased drastically, meaning there's not much need to vaccinate for them anymore.



http://s21.postimg.org/9oc4atpdj/m6011a2f2.gif (http://postimage.org/)



does it make any sense?

There are less cases of these diseases now because of the vaccines.

[SilverKnight]

You don't like to think much, do you?? You aren't doing any favors to your mixed-race benefits argument.

This has nothing to do with race mixing you dimwit, so stop desperately changing the topic.


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What Bill Gates means is that in the third world, people keep are getting murder or in someway affected by these evil vaccines given to them They have manufactured the whole "over population crap" for the excuse that we should start dying to "alleviate the problem".. This is bullshit because every person ton the planet could perfectly fit inside of the whole state of Texas in a big two story home. [/QUOTE]





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Anyways!




Survey Shows Vaccinated Children Less Healthy


Too often it seems like there is a new vaccine (http://www.healingourchildren.org/vaccinetruth/) making a bid to become part of the mandatory vaccine (http://www.healingourchildren.org/vaccinetruth/) schedule in the United States. Currently, the vaccine schedule calls for 48 doses of 14 vaccines by the age of six. As part of the process to be added to the vaccine schedule, I had always assumed that the vaccines were not only tested for safely, but also evaluated as part of the entire schedule to ensure no adverse reactions resulted from giving multiple vaccines at one time. Imagine my surprise when I found out that not once has the current vaccine schedule gone through an unbiased, well-designed scientific study proving the effectiveness and overall safety of the recommended vaccines.


How can that be? How can authorities tell us that vaccines are perfectly safe without long-term test results proving that to be true? I thought our medical practice in the United States was based on scientific testing. At the very least, I thought that asking questions was an accepted part of the scientific process. Unfortunately, the government is not asking enough questions – the main one being whether vaccinated children enjoy better overall health than their unvaccinated counterparts.


In my mind that question should have been unequivocally answered BEFORE any vaccine was made mandatory. I am not alone in this belief. A growing number of parents and independent agencies are asking the same question and demanding answers. In December 2010, VaccineInjury.info (http://www.vaccineinjury.info/vaccinations-in-general/health-unvaccinated-children/survey-results-illnesses.html) took up the call and began collecting surveys to compare the health of vaccinated versus unvaccinated children.
The study is ongoing and so far nearly 8,000 surveys have been submitted. The initial findings show a higher rate of autism, allergies, ADHD, asthma and other health conditions in vaccinated children. Really? A higher rate of chronic illnesses are found in vaccinated children when compared to unvaccinated children? That result made me sit up and take notice. The survey’s results indicate that children are NOT healthier overall by following the current US vaccine schedule. In fact, they are LESS healthy because of it.
The below chart shows a direct comparison of the VaccineInjury.info (http://www.vaccineinjury.info/vaccinations-in-general/health-unvaccinated-children/survey-results-illnesses.html) survey of unvaccinated children compared to the data gathered from a German study of vaccinated children.

http://s11.postimg.org/f5syqx243/vaccine_chart.png (http://postimage.org/)




In addition to the above chart, VaccineInjury.info found the prevalence of autism in vaccinated children to be 1 in 100 whereas the rate of autism in unvaccinated children is closer to 1 in 2,000. Children following the current US vaccination schedule are 20 times MORE likely to have autism than unvaccinated children! Any increased risk of developing autism should be enough to remove the “mandatory” label from vaccines, but a 20% increase should prompt an immediate ban on the vaccines until there is solid proof that they are safe.

The vaccine-autism link is hotly debated and continues to be highly controversial. Almost all vaccine “experts” forcefully deny any connection between the two based on research funded by drug companies. Excuse me, but I don’t believe that a study funded by the vaccine makers will be unbiased. Show me a study that shows no link between vaccines and autism from an independent agency and then we’ll talk.
Though this survey is definitely not a controlled, double-blind study and it depends on submitters to give accurate information, the results are incredibly revealing and definitely deserve a completely unbiased follow-up study with all the proper scientific methods observed. It’s time to put aside all differences regarding vaccines and do the science. Let the results stand on their own and be the deciding factor of whether or not a parent decides to vaccinate their children. If the vaccines truly do what they say they do, then the government shouldn’t have to make them mandatory. Instead, they should allow the public the freedom to make their own choices based on unbiased and proper scientific testing.
As any parent could tell you, asking questions about vaccines often results in angry, defiant statements from medical practitioners. Parents are commonly brow-beaten and bullied into given their children the vaccines on schedule with no exceptions. How can these doctors insist on administering vaccines when there is absolutely no definitive proof that they will keep our children healthy? Well, the short answer is, they truthfully can’t. And I for one am not willing to give my children something that may or may not work, but will definitely have adverse effects on their overall health.
- See more at: http://www.healingourchildren.org/survey-shows-vaccinated-children-less-healthy/#sthash.6h25XBLf.dpuf

[SkyBurn]

Survey Shows Vaccinated Children Less Healthy



I decided to follow this link, to check out the credibility of this "survey". Here's the part you omitted


Though this survey is definitely not a controlled, double-blind study and it depends on submitters to give accurate information, the results are incredibly revealing and definitely deserve a completely unbiased follow-up study with all the proper scientific methods observed.

These 8,000 people who participated submitted their surveys to an institution called "Vaccine Truth" - an anti-vaccine lobby. A large proportion of the people who visit that website (and therefore submitted in their experiences) are going to be parents who are anti-vaccines, for those are the people who go on anti-vaxer websites.

Now, when an anti-vaxer parent submits their survey, they will obviously claim that their child was wronged by vaccines (justly or unjustly); otherwise they would not be on the website in the first place. Which massively corrupts the "survey" with selection and recall bias (look those up, I'm not explaining, I just spend 2500 words explaining in an assignment).

This skews the results to show kids as being more 'unhealthy' after vaccines. Which then propagates more anti-vaccine sentiments, which convinces parents that they're children are unhealthy for a reason that wasn't their fault (or god's), which then makes them add to bullshit studies, which etc etc etc. A vicious cycle that you are unfortunately buying into.

[SilverKnight]

Well regardless weather it was mostly anti-vax people or not who voted, I still don't trust them, don't want my child, nor which anyone else including you nor your child to have this. Unless is really really needed, I don't see use for it.

[Vogon Poet]

Well regardless weather it was mostly anti-vax people or not who voted, I still don't trust them, don't want my child, nor which anyone else including you nor your child to have this. Unless is really really needed, I don't see use for it.

I wanna tell you to go fuck yourself for exposing your kids to such risk just because of your personal foibles, i.e., your inability to think clearly. However, on the bright side, if your kids become as intelligent and as amiable individuals as yourself, then that risk might turn into a hidden blessing for all the rest of the planet. :biggrin:

[SilverKnight]

I wanna tell you to go fuck yourself for exposing your kids to such risk just because of your personal foibles, i.e., your inability to think clearly. However, on the bright side, if your kids become as intelligent and as amiable individuals as yourself, then that risk might turn into a hidden blessing for all the rest of the planet. :biggrin:


And I telly you sir to go fuck yourself a quadrillion times a day. For promoting this evil shit that is obviously affecting and has affected millions of lives. And yes my kid is smart, smarter then what I already am at my age, most probably when he grown up. He's 3 mouth old and he's IQ level is most likely higher then yours already :lightbul: :lightbul: Now I think is enough with this thread, it is a sinking ship full of zombies that buy into everything they are told. I tough the forum had more intelligent people, I expected too much I guess.

[Vogon Poet]

And I telly you sir to go fuck yourself a quadrillion times a day. For promoting this evil shit that is obviously affecting and has affected millions of lives. And yes my kid is smart, smarter then what I already am at my age, most probably when he grown up. He's 3 mouth old and he's IQ level is most likely higher then yours already :lightbul: :lightbul: Now I think is enough with this thread, it is a sinking ship full of zombies that buy into everything they are told. I tough the forum had more intelligent people, I expected too much I guess.

I was about to think you were going to tell me to fuck myself a quadrillion times a day for promoting 'this' evil shit that is obviously affecting and has affected millions of lives. Then I saw that you telly me. Golly, gosh, total exasperation! I was lucky to get of the hook there! Of course your kid must be smarter than you, after all, it is implicit that you didn't have a kid with yourself. But for him to be smarter than you would not require more than the reasoning skills of a 2 month old infant. :rotfl: