UN repport about Israel

[Gorštak]

brb UN accuse Jews for torture on Palestinians kids, use of children as human shields, unnecessary detentions, rape of children and stuff

http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/crc/docs/co/CRC-C-ISR-CO-2-4.pdf?utm_source=Mondoweiss+List&utm_campaign=dc16ddd294-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_b86bace129-dc16ddd294-398413317


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We all know there is no negotiations with terrorists
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[Gorštak]

bump

[Jackson]

Unsurprising i guess.

[Sblast]

"torture...rape and stuff", sounds vaguely like Syria, only it isn't. I've would have heard of "rape" before it wasn't for "Black Swan's flight of opportunistic imagination and stuff".
As long as UNHRC serves as a almost purely a political body that does not concern it self with human rights but with systematic hostility & slander towards Israel, it and its vague reports are nullified.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

UN an invalid slanderous organization? lol

[Windischer]

you need to differentiate between bad behaviour and chauvinism between people and legalized discrimination by state. some demagogues like to equate the former with the latter.



http://www.zaslike.com/files/h8l6s14pet16k3ag9v2q.jpg
dont people in israel drive on left side? if so, how could they drive with a boy tied to left side using him as a shield? (why would they need human shield for armored army car anyway?)
wasnt the boy tied so that he doesnt run while the soldier reports to command?
and isnt that published in british daily mail? :D


UN an invalid slanderous organization? lol

UN has for long been a whore of 3rd world dictators. did you know that, for example, various dictatorships are trying to use international telecommunication union (specialized agency of UN) as a tool for limiting the internet freedom worldwide? not sure if wcit 2012 rings a bell for you.

[Kiyant]

If this really happened shame on the soldiers who did it nothing more to say really.......

[Windischer]

If this really happened shame on the soldiers who did it nothing more to say really.......

a very important part of your post.

[Kiyant]

a very important part of your post.

? I just say if this didnt happen there is nothing to say if some soldiers really did that they should get punished for it.

[Mraz]

"torture...rape and stuff", sounds vaguely like Syria, only it isn't. I've would have heard of "rape" before it wasn't for "Black Swan's flight of opportunistic imagination and stuff".
As long as UNHRC serves as a almost purely a political body that does not concern it self with human rights but with systematic hostility & slander towards Israel, it and its vague reports are nullified.

Are you muslim? :rolleyes:


When debating Muslims I've noticed the following tactics are used (in full or in part);
1. Distraction: They try to divert attention from the argument at hand and don't debate the issue directly
2. Ad hominem logical fallacy: Blaming the messenger and not debating the message
3. Fallacy of relevance eg a "red herring": the "two wrongs make a right" tactic (or the Tu Quoque logical fallacy).
In employing these tactics they unwittingly admit the correctness of their opponent's orginal argument

[Acquisitor]

If this really happened shame on the soldiers who did it nothing more to say really.......

plz..

sometimes some unfortunate events can occur, however the army punishes those involved in a dramatic way.

UN' is being dominated by arabs who made careers in the UN by bashing Israel. Bashing Israel is simple, people like hearing it, its just too easy.

Think about this:

the entire Arab Israeli conflict combined, including all military and civilian deaths is only responsible for 0.4% of all casualties in the region from 1948 til now. Yet this conflict receives 97% of all media attention when it comes to local conflict.


Take a look at the Syrian war.

Before the chemical attack the Syrian war claimed +-100 000 casualties, much more than the entire Arab Israeli conflict combined. Yet before the chemical weapons were used, this war received relatively little attention. Sure, sometimes they would show something on the news like "Assad forces kill 20 children", but I didnt see any worldwide protests or "lets boycott israeli products". Yet every even minor confrontation of Israel vs the Arabs gets a disproportional amount of attention from the media.



And finally here is a reality check about the UN vs Israel:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc2tUpoTCpU&noredirect=1

[Sblast]

UN an invalid slanderous organization? lol

If this is somehow a contentious claim for you, try Google/Wikipedia.The IHEU (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Humanist_and_Ethical_Union), a group that sees human rights as a value in itself while trying to lobby real human rights, sees it as a problem (http://ec.libsyn.com/p/1/2/d/12d09f8e0ad40ba6/POI_2009_03_27_Austin_Dacey.mp3?d13a76d516d9dec20c 3d276ce028ed5089ab1ce3dae902ea1d01cf8e37d8ce593782&c_id=1846377) (minute 17, context being his work at the UN), not a virtue.

[Kiyant]

plz..

sometimes some unfortunate events can occur, however the army punishes those involved in a dramatic way.

UN' is being dominated by arabs who made careers in the UN by bashing Israel. Bashing Israel is simple, people like hearing it, its just too easy.

Think about this:

the entire Arab Israeli conflict combined, including all military and civilian deaths is only responsible for 0.4% of all casualties in the region from 1948 til now. Yet this conflict receives 97% of all media attention when it comes to local conflict.


Take a look at the Syrian war.

Before the chemical attack the Syrian war claimed +-100 000 casualties, much more than the entire Arab Israeli conflict combined. Yet before the chemical weapons were used, this war received relatively little attention. Sure, sometimes they would show something on the news like "Assad forces kill 20 children", but I didnt see any worldwide protests or "lets boycott israeli products". Yet every even minor confrontation of Israel vs the Arabs gets a disproportional amount of attention from the media.



And finally here is a reality check about the UN vs Israel:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc2tUpoTCpU&noredirect=1

I dont want to attack Israel i just said people who do this from ALL kinds should get into prison.

[Acquisitor]

I dont want to attack Israel i just said people who do this from ALL kinds should get into prison.

IDF investigates incidents and sends those who are guilty to jail or fires them, depending on the seriousness of the situation.

Israel is also a country where a former president was sent to jail after being accused of rape. Not many countries would be democratic enough to do something like that.

[Sblast]

? I just say if this didnt happen there is nothing to say if some soldiers really did that they should get punished for it.

If you're interested in what really happens, Breaking Silence (http://www.breakingthesilence.org.il/) is one source I contribute to monthly and find reliable given my personal experience and other personal experiences by Israelis sick of Israeli governmental policies and not Israel or Jews.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

If this is somehow a contentious claim for you, try Google/Wikipedia.The IHEU (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Humanist_and_Ethical_Union), a group that sees human rights as a value in itself while trying to lobby real human rights, sees it as a problem (http://ec.libsyn.com/p/1/2/d/12d09f8e0ad40ba6/POI_2009_03_27_Austin_Dacey.mp3?d13a76d516d9dec20c 3d276ce028ed5089ab1ce3dae902ea1d01cf8e37d8ce593782&c_id=1846377) (minute 17, context being his work at the UN), not a virtue.

I didn't realize this was the case and thought you were being kind of crazy, but I will recant.

[Sblast]

I didn't realize this was the case and thought you were being kind of crazy, but I will recant.

That's regardless of the fact Palestinian children are in fact regularly abused by Israeli soldiers and police.
The simple matter is; you cannot militarily control a population of millions, while denying their political rights and keeping your 'hands clean'. Israelis shouldn't be there.