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Loki
09-13-2013, 12:36 PM
English Football Association issues 'yid' warning (http://edition.cnn.com/2013/09/12/sport/football/tottenham-hotspur-yid-anti-semitism-football/index.html?hpt=hp_t4)

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(CNN) -- English football fans have been warned they face criminal prosecution if they continue to chant a word which has been deemed anti-Semitic.

The English Football Association (FA) have told fans to stop using the word "Yid", a term which at different times throughout history has been used by Jews and also to abuse them.

Tottenham Hotspur, a north London-based club, are known for having a large number of Jewish supporters. A section of Spurs fans have attempting to reclaim the "Y word" by referring to themselves as the "Yid Army" and chanting it at matches.

But the FA has warned that such practices are no longer acceptable as it continues its fight against discrimination in the English game.

"We are committed to tackling discrimination in all its forms and that includes anti-Semitic behavior in football," FA general secretary Alex Horne said in a statement.

"The Y-word has no place in our game and its use in stadiums can result in a football banning order. We are determined that everyone can enjoy football in a fan friendly and safe environment."

The FA also stated that, while it understands the motives of fans attempting to reclaim an offensive term, it still deems the word a discriminatory slur.

"The FA appreciates that language is a complex issue: the use and meaning of words is constantly evolving," read a statement.

"This means that, over time, sometimes neutral words or phrases can come to be understood as offensive; and, similarly, words or phrases previously considered as offensive can become more acceptable.

"Although the term derives from the Yiddish word for a Jew, its use in the English language has been, both historically and in contemporary use, derogatory and offensive.

"It is noted that many minority communities have sought to reclaim historic terms of abuse such as this as a means of empowerment. The process of empowerment through reclaiming language is complex and can often divide opinion within the same community.

"In light of the historic and contemporary use of the term, The FA considers that the use of the term 'Yid' is likely to be considered offensive by the reasonable observer."

Speaking on behalf of Maccabi GB, a British charity aimed at promoting Jewish participation in sports, Dave Rich declared the word does not have a place in modern language due to its associations with fascist views of Oswald Mosley, a politician during the early decades of the 20th century.

"The Y-word causes offense to many people, Jewish and non-Jewish, however it is intended," said Rich.

"Its historic association with Mosley's fascists and continued use by antisemites outside football mean that it has no place in football grounds or anywhere else."

Raymond Simonson, chief executive of the Jewish Community Center in London, says he has no problem with fellow Tottenham fans using the word, although he cannot bring himself to say it out loud.

He told CNN World Sport: "I've had that word spat at me in the street, had the word scrawled over my exercise book at school and been held up by the scruff of my neck and had that word shouted at me.

"That word has a lot of meaning for me and it's the reason I can't say the word.

"The problems with words which have racist connotations is that it's about context.

"When I go to football matches and I have to listen to fans, a minority mind you, hissing to make the sounds of the gas chambers,I don't believe anybody can tell me the reason they do it is because some Spurs fans are singing a song about Jermain Defoe which rhymes with the ''y" word."

Tottenham explained how the uses of the term by their fans was a "defense mechanism" rather than a deliberate attempt to insult the Jewish community.

"Last season saw a number of incidents where fans were targeted by allegedly far-right activists on the continent and subjected to anti-Semitic abuse by opposition fans," said a club spokesman. "Subsequently, the debate on this issue has two key considerations.

"Firstly, whether or not its use now plays a role in deflecting or attracting unjustified abuse, abuse that is inexcusable on any grounds; and secondly, whether it is liable to cause offense to others even if unintentionally. Our fans have themselves engaged in this debate following the events of last season.

"We recognize that this is a complex debate and that, in the interests of encouraging a positive and safe environment for all supporters, consideration should be given to the appropriateness and suitability of its continued use.

"We are already in the process of engaging with our fans and shall be consulting more widely in due course."

But Peter Herbert, chairman of the Society of Black Lawyers, believes Tottenham supporters must take more responsibility in tackling the issue.

"We're not blaming Spurs fans," he told CNN World Sport.

"But they have to take responsibility. Those same fans would not dare use that word on a Saturday afternoon outside the ground. You cannot have an area of London which is ring fenced for racism or anti-Semitism."

In recent years, the FA has shown its sensitivity to the concerns of the English football's Jewish community.

The England national team paid a visit to the World War II concentration camp Auschwitz I in Berkanau ahead of the Euro 2012 tournament in Poland and Ukraine last year.

In October, England manager Roy Hodgson will open the "Four Four Jew" exhibition at the Jewish Museum London.

The exhibition celebrates the Jewish community's contribution to British football.

Methmatician
09-13-2013, 12:53 PM
Barmy Army is still the best I've heard. Nothing beats that one, especially not "Yid Army". Why not try "The Jew Crew" instead?

Shkembe Chorba
09-13-2013, 12:58 PM
Haha.

I have proudly name myself with the offensive word for my team, that our rivals call us.

Austo
09-13-2013, 03:28 PM
Soon it will be antisemitic to call the Jews "Jews".

Graham
09-13-2013, 03:33 PM
THE JEWISH CHRONICLE ONLINE:
Jump off this idiotic bandwagon (http://linkis.com/www.thejc.com/commen/Qx6k)
By Stephen Pollard, September 12, 2013
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As of now, I’m not one of the 30 per cent of British men with a criminal record.I say “as of now” because this may be about to change.

On Tuesday, the Football Association revived that perennial, the Y-word on the terraces.

The FA’s general secretary, Alex Horne, said that the word Yid “is likely to be considered offensive by the reasonable observer” and he considers the term to be “inappropriate in a football setting.”

He went on to argue that “use of the term in a public setting could amount to a criminal offence and leave those fans liable to prosecution and potentially a lengthy football banning order.”

In which case, losing my Spurs season ticket will be the least of it. I’ll be editing the JC from a prison cell.

Does Mr Horne have nothing better to do with his time? (After Tuesday night’s England performance, I don’t think you need me to answer that.)

Not that he’s alone. The CST, an organisation for which I usually have the utmost respect, has jumped on the Yid bandwagon, too, saying it “has no place in football grounds or anywhere else.”

What is it with Jewish organisations which seem to go out of their way to find offense for the sake of it? We’ve seen another this week over Brian May’s description of the badger cull as “a genocide.”

Clearly the man is an idiot. But that will be obvious to almost everyone who hears the comment. It doesn’t need the local shuls and communal representatives jumping up and down.

There are real problems — Islamist antisemitism and some interfaith work which ends up offering succour to antisemites — that do need to be dealt with. Yet when it comes to confronting these large-scale issues, our representative bodies run a mile.

Instead, we are directed to confront the non-issue of Spurs fans who use the word Yid.

When I sing “Jermain Defoe, he’s a Yiddo,” I am not insulting him. I’m not suggesting he drinks the blood of the firstborn.

I — and the thousand of Jews who sing the same chant at White Hart Lane every time he scores — am doing the exact opposite. I am celebrating him. I am exalting in his contribution to The Jewish Team.

Because that’s the real issue here. Not all north London Jews support Spurs (I believe there’s an upstart team nearby). And not all Spurs fans are Jewish. But a significant proportion are. And we — again, not all of us, but a significant proportion – like to call ourselves the Yid Army, and we like to call our players Yiddos.

It’s a reclamation of language. That means it’s just not an insult when we say it, any more than when a gay man calls himself a queer.

This isn’t an issue of linguistic subtlety. When a skinhead waving a swastika spits “Yiddo” at a passing Jew, it’s racist. As it is when Chelsea fans hiss at Spurs fans, mocking the gas chambers — and which Chelsea FC simply ignores.

But is it really that difficult to work out that when a group of Jews (and non-Jews) at White Hart Lane call a Spurs player a Yiddo, then it’s a term of endearment? Or are the FA and their fellow travellers so cloth-eared?

This is the warped logic behind the anti-Yid posturing. Thousands of Jews chant “Yiddo” at White Hart Lane. In response, the goons at the FA — maybe they’re Gooners, which would explain a lot – are proposing to deal with this non-existent antisemitism through the mass criminalisation of Jews.
Genius.

Sblast
09-13-2013, 03:53 PM
How is it anti-semetic if "Yid" is chanted in support of Jewish communities or they just want to distance ethnicity from sport?